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What is the difference if I pray in Jesus's name or if I pray to Father God himself, and why is there are difference if they are one?

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So you are using your two King illustration to prove your Neo-Platonic bent Warwick. If you do agree that Kings are not always the same age and name etc... then as you say, "it means equal to"- equal not in age or name, but in 'nature and substance', as you keep banging on about. You just can't escape from your Pagan, Neo-Platonic philosophies can you!

Everyone knows two Kings are human. Did you expect one from another planet? The writer is hardly expected to state the blatantly obvious. Any two Kings are not exactly the same age, or have same names, or share the same power. Even Luke, the writer of Acts knew that. Luke & Paul knew Jesus was not Jehovah, but subject to his Father and Creator. Acts 7:55, 1 Cor.15:28.
---David8318 on 8/1/10

Ernest thank you for the information on the multiple false prophecies of the Watchtower Society. Surely this alone totally destroys their credibility.

You obviously have considerable knowledge of this organization. Could you share more of this sort of information? People need to be warned about 'wolves in the fold.'

Mark A Gabriel (ex Muslim) wrote 'Islam and Terrorism' wherein he said -Muslim's are not the problem, Islam is. This I believe is just as true with 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witnesses and their controlling body The Watchtower Society. It is the controlling body which is the problem, not those ensnared.

May God set them free.
---Warwick on 8/1/10

Warwick- Jehovah's Witnesses are 'Bible Students', free agents who study the Bible in obedience to Christ's instruction to 'keep on the watch' (Mt.24:42), looking out for Armageddon. What's the big deal?

I don't know where you get most of those dates, but 1914 is still a significant date prophesied in the Bible. 30 years prior to 1914, JW's discerned from Daniel that something was going to happen in 1914.

Jehovah has always revealed confidential matters to his people progressively. (Pr.4:18) That doesn't stop Jehovah's people studying the Bible in anticipation of the revealing of those truths. That's what makes the truth so exciting!

So what if JW's make adjustments regarding Sodom. It's not exactly earth shattering!
---David8318 on 8/1/10

Ernest, great answers you gave to David. I studied this religion for over five years. My sister was a witness. I got all the books from her and I compared passages and I could see how they did away with many words to change the meaning concerning Christ. Though they didn't change all of them, I figure that they will revise the New W. Translation again later. My experience was first hand. I went to their meetings with my sister and kept quiet and studied what they did. Saw who took communion. My sister died because she refused the blood, so did my uncle. Very tragic for the whole family. The rest didn't care, they were still going to live. My sister change her mind too late, they could not do anything for her.
---MarkV. on 8/1/10

David, Have Jehovah's Witnesses been guided by Jehovah's Holy Spirit?

Then why has the Watchtower Society made so many false prophecies: 1878, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1975? To this must now be added 1914 because it taught the End would come within a generation of that date and in 1994 - 80 years later it proved wrong and had to be abandoned!

Also the flip-flop of doctrines: Eight times the Society changed its mind as to whether the Men of Sodom would be resurrected. Twice even in the same Paradise(YCLFPE) book,on p.179, editions 1982(YES) and 1989(NO)!

How can such confusion bring unity and how could it be the work of the Holy Spirit?
---Ernest_1 on 7/31/10


Tragically you can never know the truth about the Creatorship of Jesus while you believe the New World translation which adds, alters and subtracts from the Word of God.

Check with your Kingdom Interlinear Translation and you will find in Colossians 1:16-18 that the word "other" has been ADDED four times to destroy this truth. It does not appear in the original Greek, the Bible teaches that by Jesus " were all things created". "He is before all things, and by him all things consist."

How can you wonderful, sincere Jehovah's Witnesses ever learn truth while you trust the Watchtower Society and the New World Bible?
---Ernest_1 on 7/31/10

"All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being." Ridiculous???

"Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen."
---Rod4Him on 7/31/10

The trinity is exposed as destroying Bible teachings- eg. Jesus being a perfect man & showing 'godly devotion' to his God and Creator- 1 Tim.3:16.

Notice how trinitarians and their mistranslated Bibles say 'God became manifest in the flesh' at 1 Tim.3:16. So trinitarianism teaches 'God' had to 'become flesh' and show 'godly devotion' to himself! What utter nonsensical rubbish!

The trinity destruction continues as according to 1 Tim.3:16, because of God showing 'godly devotion' to himself, 'God was... received up in glory'. This is trinitarian clap-trap destroying the message of God's word.

It was essential the 'last Adam' showed 'godly devotion' to his Creator, to cancel out the damage of the 'first Adam'. 1 Cor.15:45.
---David8318 on 7/31/10

David, Colossians 1:15-17 says "Jesus is the image of the invisible God", "firstborn over all creation." That everything was "created by him and for him." "He is before all things, and in him all things hold together."

As Jesus created every created thing He is obviously not created. Being Creator He is God.

In human terms 'firstborn' can mean first son, but as applied to David (lastborn son) and to Israel (Exodus 4:22-neverborn), it means 'preeminent.' Therefore firstborn does not necessarily mean born at all or the first physically born. Applied to Jesus, He who is "before all things, and in him all things hold together" it definitely means Preeminent.
---Warwick on 7/31/10

David, I certainly do not believe I have lost the argument with you.

I pointed out the well known fact that you are not free to come to your own conclusions about Scripture but of necessity follow The Watchtower 'party line.' If you did not you would be disfellowshipped.

You say I believe kings are always the same age, have the same name and shared the same power and authority! Nonsense, I said nothing about name and age only that 'standing/sitting at the right hand' means equal to, as it does.

I neither itch, nor am I conversant with, nor interested in "Plato's philosophy of metaphysics." As a free agent I stick to Scripture.
---Warwick on 7/31/10


The major damage is done by denying the deity of Jesus Christ and blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

Since I am a new creature in Christ, I cannot help in talking about the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.

I cannot imagine scouring another's sacred documents to try to get them to not believe in what it teaches. However, I would spend my time talking about Michael and the Holy Spirit as a "spirit force".
---aka.joseph on 7/31/10

This is the damage trinitarianism does to an individual, for Warwick asks the ridiculous questions- "How can He be Creator of all, and Not God? How can He be the Creator and at the same time, as you would have us believe, be a created being?" (7/31/10)

Simple answer- Jesus is not 'the creator of all', therefore not God. He is thus not the 'Creator and at the same time a created being' because Jesus is firstborn of all of Jehovah's creations, 'the SON of God'. Jo.1:34.

Jesus prayed to Jehovah God his creator and Father. Thus, Jesus was the perfect example of 'godly devotion' as Paul explained in 1 Tim.3:16. Unless of course you are of Warwick's twisted view that 'God was... raised up in glory' and 'devoted to himself'.
---David8318 on 7/31/10

When Warwick has lost the argument- he starts to ridicule not the logic put forward, but the organisation or belief of the other person.

So Warwick believes that Luke, the writer of Acts believed that when he wrote about Stephen seeing Jesus 'standing at God's right hand', he believed Kings are always the same age, have the same name and shared the same power and authority.

That's ridiculous trinitarian psycho babble. Every King has different names and ages.

I know Warwick and other trinitarians are itching to use Plato's philosophy of metaphysics to explain how Jesus is God.

Warwick- Jesus is not God and Creator, but a creation of Jehovah God- His 'SON', His first. Jo.1:34, Col.1:15.
---David8318 on 7/31/10

David you are forced by your organizations control to duck and weave to avoid the obvious.

My illustration regarding the kings serves (as I am sure you know) to illustrate the term "at the right hand of God" means Jesus has equality with God. The writer, being aware of the practice between earthly kings, applied the term to Jesus and God. God is King and Jesus is King of Kings who stands at the right hand of God, His natural place, one of equality.

After all He is the uncreated Creator for whom and by whom every created thing came into being. How can He be Creator of all, and Not God? How can He be the Creator and at the same time, as you would have us believe, be a created being?
---Warwick on 7/31/10

No Warwick, you are not a free agent. You are misguided and shackled to Hellenic, Neo-Platonic philosophy which forces you into the 'triune-trinity trap'.

The trinity is anti-Christ by default. It is designed by Satan purely for that purpose- to negate the death of Christ, and hide the true identity of the AlmightyGod.

You say you and your pastor don't agree on issues and you have 'strong' debates. It is obvious you're both not guided by HolySpirit, but by your own self-righteousness. Mt.15:14.

'there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought'. 1 Cor.1:10.

Jehovah's Witnesses are united in peace and love, and guided by Jehovah's Holy Spirit.
---David8318 on 7/31/10

When Jesus prayed to his Father Jehovah, he set a model for us to follow. A model of 'godly devotion'- 1 Tim.3:16.

Someone had to show perfect godly devotion to AlmightyGod. Why? Because Adam, the first perfect man failed miserably. Who could provide a perfect example of godly devotion? Paul said such devotion is 'admittedly great'.

This is the sacred secret Paul spoke about. A sacred secret involving Jesus Christ. Only Christ, the 'last Adam' could provide a perfect example of 'godly devotion' to AlmightyGod.

Jesus had to show perfect 'godly devotion', thus- 'He was made manifest in the flesh'.

However, the false trinity doctrine teaches it is God who shows 'godly devotion' to himself! This is false reasoning.
---David8318 on 7/31/10

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David, as you know I am a free agent, free to study God's word, and seek Him in prayer, free of denominational control. My pastor and I, do not agree on some issues. We have debated these issues, strongly. Nonetheless he and I have mutual respect and admiration for one another.

You however belong to an antiChristian cult which dictates your beliefs. I know of what this deceitful organization teaches and of its control over its victims.

I have long-standing close fellowship with Christians from many denominations and non denominational groups. But you know I cannot have such relationship with JW's as they are indoctrinated into elitism, falsely believing they are the only ones saved.

Come out of it, into the light!
---Warwick on 7/31/10

And that Ernest 1, is what is called Neo-Platonism- the trinitarian teaching that 'Jesus is God' using Plato's philosophy of 'nature and essence'.

It's as predictable as night following day with trinitarians. If Ernest didn't use Neo-Platonism, Warwick certainly would have.

Plato gave Hellenists the philosophical formulae to reconcile the irreconcilable. To make a 3 fold god (a triad) appear as 'one' (triune), to conform to the 'Shema' (Deut 6:4). Neo-Platonist trinitarians use Plato's philosophy of metaphysics to teach Jesus is the same 'nature and essence' as the Creator (God) and is therefore, 'God'.

Kings may be 'human', but are they always the same age? Does the host King capitulate when a King comes to visit?
---David8318 on 7/30/10

David, Concerning the analogy of the two kings portrayed by Warwick:

These kings were both of the same essence - human. They were equally human. One was not any less human than the other irrespective of where they stood in importance or rank.

So it is with the Godhead. Both Father and the Son are equally God. These two Persons along with the Person of the Holy Spirit make up the unity of the triune-Godhead or the One Heavenly Government = the One true "elohim".

I hope this may make it a little clearer.
---Ernest_1 on 7/30/10

Carla, I do not trouble over God's being, nor divide him up into man's preformed limits to satiate the imagination. To me, I am 100% satisfied with the full deity and complete Godhood of Jesus Christ. My God is The God, Jesus Christ. period. He says that he is God, he proves that he is God, and he promises us a life with him without end. When Jesus came to me in person when I was upon my death bed, and he touched me and he healed me and he sanctified me and he made me born-again, I do not need any person, nor angel, nor any other being to try to disuade me from the only real and everlasting glory of God, namely, Jesus Christ, the name above every name. He alone is my Lord and my God, the King of kings and the Lord of lords. A-men! Hallelujah!
---Eloy on 7/30/10

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While enough evidence has been given to you, it would not be wise for me to pursue this concept, I understand where you are coming from, it is hard to accept when you have been indoctrinated a particular way then presented with another understanding.

Be the bigger person and understand everyone is kind of right but there is only one way and we all have to get there. If this is not your understanding and you won't read and see that it all means the same thing, it is not understood through one concept, then your journey is held up and you will preach falsely yet provide odd scriptures for your own understanding!
---Carla on 7/30/10

Warwick- I disagree with you that the two Kings in your scenario are always "co-eternal, and co-equal... uncreated and both omnipotent" as the triune-trinity doctrine states.

These two Kings, are they always the same age? Do they share the same power and authority? I think not. The visiting King is standing at the 'right hand' of the host King out of respect. And submits to the authority and laws of the land set down by the host King.

1 Cor.11:3 says, 'the head of the Christ is God'.

1 Cor.15:28 says, 'then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him'.

The visiting King is subject to the host King. The Son is subject to his Father. The truth is as simple as that.
---David8318 on 7/30/10

David 'standing at the right hand of God' denotes Jesus equality and omnipotence.

In ancient times a visiting king, if considered equal, would stand/sit at the 'right hand' of the local king, thereby shown as the local kings equal.

As Scripture says "Jesus said, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of power, and coming upon the clouds of heaven." (Matt. 26:64, Mark 14:62).

"From henceforth shall the Son of man be sitting at the right hand of the power of God." (Luke 22:69).

It is no puzzle that God the Father, the Alpha and the Omega would consider His Son the Alpha and the Omega, the one and the same being, to be His equal. And He should know.
---Warwick on 7/29/10

Ernest 1- Jesus did not teach that prayers should be petitioned or directed to him, but only his Father, to whom he prayed.

Stephen, just before his death saw a vision of heaven and of Jesus standing at God's right hand. This was not a prayer but a vision- thus Stephen addressed Jesus directly as if in his presence.

Stephen saw 2 distinct individuals in his vision- "Jesus standing at Gods right hand". (Acts 7:55)

Christians who refuse to worship the false triune-trinity often say as part of their prayer to God, 'come Lord Jesus' (as did John in Revelation). But this does not mean they are praying to Jesus. They recognise that Jesus will be used by Jehovah to bring glorious blessings to earth promised in Revelation.
---David8318 on 7/29/10

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I believe what you are saying I just don't understand how you are not understanding the equation.

1+1=2 However in Christ is God in God is Christ = 1+1=1 but it also =2.

Jhn 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever,
---Carla on 7/29/10


i think that God hears all prayers. How He answers (or does not answer) them is different depending on His knowledge of us individually and how we can be used to further His will.

Our prayers do not move God. God moves us depending on our heart condition. Our prayers do not necessarily reflect His Will.
---aka.joseph on 7/29/10

Carla, If you read the original Greek you will see Yeshuah is Yhwh, Almighty God. The Greek word "thelo" is rightly translated "joy" when Jesus' prayed in the garden, and not "will", for Jesus' will is exactly the Father's will. Jesus said, lit.Gk: "My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death. O Father of me, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: evenso not as I joy, but as you." Mt.26:38,39.
---Eloy on 7/29/10

In reference to the triune God, one comprehension holds that the Father, Son, and H.G. are 3 separate entities, and the other comprehension holds that all three are 1 entity. It is a minor difference in the understanding of God, but please know that God is not offended by either belief. Truly truly I say to you, give to Christ Jesus the full glory due to his name, worship him in the beauty of holiness.
---Eloy on 7/29/10

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Hello Eloy,

My understanding of the phrase you used about ''Christ being lifted up''

Was this until Christ was lifted from the situation he was in on earth, his revelation of who he was he could not be recognised as the resurrected son of the living God whereby he was able to draw All mankind to himself, through this Prophecy. Hence He said: If I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men unto me.

Jhn 12:32
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me.
---Carla on 7/28/10

Mar 14:36
And he said,{YESHUAH -to-} Abba, Father (YAHWEH) all things [are] possible > unto thee< {he is asking HIS FATHER} (YAHWEH -to-)take away this cup from {HIM YESHUAH} me: nevertheless not what I will YESHUAH, but what thou wilt. YAHWEH{will} HALLELUJAH!!!!

Even when I think on these words a feeling of spiritual /physical emotions wells up within my soul, so I know my spirit bares witness to the word of God.
---Carla on 7/28/10

Carla, If you are talking to Jesus when you say "Father God" in your prayers, it is good.
---Eloy on 7/28/10


In the Lord's Prayer Jesus taught us to pray to the Father. However, in John 14:14 (Kingdom Interlinear Translation) Jesus invites us also to make requests to him.

In Acts 7:59-60 Stephen addressed his prayer to the Lord Jesus.

The last prayer in the Bible is addressed: "Amen. Even so, come Lord Jesus." Rev.22:20.

Because Jesus is the second Person of the Godhead for in Him dwells "all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" Col. 2:9 He could accept both prayer and worship.
---Ernest_1 on 7/28/10

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Eloy, 2:
What that means is that "all men" in John 12:32, can mean many things in the Greek. It can mean every, all, it can mean the individual within the totality. All men could mean, Jews and Gentiles whom God wants to save. By implying that God draws every individual to Himself, you are implying they are all saved, because John 6:44 states "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day" your meaning would imply that Christ raises every single individual. And that is not true at all. What you did was distroyed the very words of Christ to put your own meaning. Oh, I know you will call me something, but that is the way it goes.
---MarkV. on 7/28/10

jesus stated no one comes to the father but by me.this statement was in reference to being born again.jesus prayed to God,and at the sermon on the mount taught the lords prayer.but to answer your question,God will only hear your prayers when you are born again,and when your prayers arent hampered by what you are doing in your life.
---tom2 on 7/28/10

Eloy, your interpretation of John 12:32 is a wrong interpretation. First, you said,
"But if I heard about Jesus, THE ONLY REAL AND TRUE SALVATION FOR MANKIND, and I pray, "Jesus, save me", then the real miracle of becoming saved would indeed happen for me."
It would happen to you if you had saving faith. You can say the words all you want without faith and it would mean nothing.
Second, you took John 12:32 to mean that God draws all man, meaning every single individual, to Himself, that would mean that all man are save, and as we know the wicked go to hell, as you have said so many times. So He didn't draw those individuals and gave them to Christ. The word (all) in that passage means "Pas"
---MarkV. on 7/28/10

aka joseph, but the obvious is that God has already drawn all men up to himself. He professes: If I be lifted up I will draw all men up to me, and he has already been lifted up, and now he Commands all flesh every where to repent. Thus, salvation is man's responsibility to obey God's Command, salvation is not God's responsibility to draw men to obey him. Now back to the sinner whom refuses to know Jesus, that is their sin, not God's.
---Eloy on 7/27/10

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Eloy, can we put aside the obvious...

John 6:44-45 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:...prophets... And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

What about those who have heard of the Father, God, Jesus, Abba but still have no idea who He is? You have to have heard and learned. Or, you can wind up in the "many" crowd who gets turned away.

For those who have heard but not learned, ask God to bring you to the Truth of His Son.

Now, for those who have learned, pray from your heart. Talk as an unassuming child. God is One and they are co-equal. Don't let your prayer become as oily rags.
---aka.joseph on 7/27/10

aka joseph, a person can call out to God, but if their understanding of God is Buddha or some other thing, then they will not get an answer from the true God. Just as if I posted to "aka henry" here, rather than to "aka joseph", then "aka joseph" would not answer me. Please read my earlier post: The reason we must pray to Jesus is because "God" is a title which means different things to different people. But there is only one Jesus, and says Jesus: "No human comes to The Father, except by me." Jn.14:6...
---Eloy on 7/27/10

eloy, i agree with you that there is only One way. please reread my post. I did not say anything about false gods. i was doing my best to avoid an unnecessary argument about construct of godliness.

i said if there were ONE biblical formula, how is an unsaved person to know to pray to the Father, to Jesus, to Jesus in the Father's name, to the Father in Jesus' name and so on...can't that person just call out to God?

Jesus called out to Abba and Paul says that we have that freedom. Nobody on this blog mentioned that.
---aka.joseph on 7/26/10

aka Joseph, There is formula in the sense that there is Only One Way to God. It does make a very big difference on how and to whom you pray to, else God will not hearken. For if I were a sinner and I were to pray, "Buddha, save me", or "Mary, perpetual mother, save me", or "Pope John Paul, save me", or "Peter, Paul, Sally, Jesse, Raphalie, or Joseph Smith save me." Then I would remain totally unsaved. But if I heard about Jesus, THE ONLY REAL AND TRUE SALVATION FOR MANKIND, and I pray, "Jesus, save me", then the real miracle of becoming saved would indeed happen for me.
---Eloy on 7/26/10

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The Bible says we are to pray ONLY to Father God in Jesus' name. We pray to the Father using the name of Jesus (as our power of atterney) to get answers. If we pray to anyone other than the Father in Jesus' name, we are committing idolitry (worshipping false gods) and going AGAINST the Bible. This applies to us praying to Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Mary, saints, angels, or humans.
---Leslie on 7/26/10

So, what you are all trying to say, in one way or another, is that there is a formula.

God, in His infinite wisdom and love and grace, sits there with the Son and Holy Spirit approving or disapproving our "well-designed" prayers based on a formula?

"oooh...just missed that because you said x+y but forgot the 'in the name of a'. Sorry...your appeal for feeding your children is denied. Try again when you learn the formula. It is know?"

How do the lost sinners pray to become "saved" sinners if they do not know the formula or person to address?

Pray from your heart. Talk as an unassuming child. God is One and they are co-equal. Don't let your prayer become as oily rags.
---aka.joseph on 7/26/10

Yes we are to pray to the Father through JESUS our High Priest as pointed out by JESUS, Hebrews and Revelations.

But that does not prove that we are not to worship JESUS. After all in Revelaiton He is worshipped. Hebrews 1 Rev. 5.

The problem is that many do not want to honour the son as they honor the father. Jhn 5:23 That all [men] should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

So yes we pray to the Father through GOD the son.
---Samuel on 7/26/10

Jesus is The Father, he professes this and proves this. When people choose their own way rather than obey Jesus' Commandments, then their own sin causes the separation from holy Christ. Jesus said: "Level this temple, and in three days I will raise it. I have power to lay the life of me down, and I have power to take it again. I am from above, I am not of this world. For if you all believe not that I AM, you all will die in your sins. Whoso eats my flesh, and drinks my blood partakes of eternal life, and I will raise that one up at the last day. I am the Alpha and the Omega, Beginning and Ultimate, which from being, and which to being, and which coming, The Almighty." Jn.2:19+ 10:18+ 8:23,24+ 6:54+ Rv.1:8.
---Eloy on 7/25/10

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Stevenq, You ask, Did Jesus raise himself from the dead?

Jesus said He could:

John 2:19-21 (New World) "'Break down this temple, and in three days I will RAISE IT UP' Therefore the Jews said, 'This temple was built in forty-six years, and will you RAISE IT UP IN THREE DAYS?' But he was talking about the TEMPLE OF HIS BODY."

Jesus could only do this because He was a GOD-MAN. On the cross/torture stake His humanity died but not his divinity! This is one of the great truths of Christianity! Thus His divinity which could not die could raise His humanity/human body which did suffer and die!
---Ernest_1 on 7/26/10

Jesus couldn't do anything without the Father. It is the Father that gave all things to Jesus. Jesus himself told us to only worship and pray to the Father. When Jesus prayed, he prayed to the Father, not to himself. True worshippers worship the Father in spirit and in truth because the Father seeks everyone to worship him. Jesus said that if I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me.

And who do you suppose sent Jesus to finish the Father's work?

Who did Jesus cry out to while on the cross? To himself?

Who raised Jesus from the dead? Himself?

Read the book of John and know the relationship between the Father and Jesus.

There is but one God, the Father.
---Steveng on 7/25/10

We need to adhere to the Bible and pray the way we are told to. Colossians 3:17 Whatsoever you do in word or deed,do all in the name of Lord Jesus,giving thanks to God and the Father by him. Ephesians 5:20 giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus. Acts 4:30 By stretching forth your hand to heal,and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of the Holy Child Jesus. Acts 16:18 Paul commanded a spirit in the name of Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God,and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus. That is the reason we are not suspose to pray to God directly because the only way given to pray,and the Apostles used it,is to pray to God in Jesus name.
---Darlene_1 on 7/23/10

Amen. ---Steveng on 7/22/10
Follow instructions.

Our Father...
---char on 7/23/10

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Because Jesus is a God-person he can receive WORSHIP and PRAYER.

Some Watchtower publications make this very plain:

Hebrews 1:6 (New World, 1961 ed)"And let all God's angels WORSHIP him."

John 14:14 (Kingdom Interlinear Translation) "If ever YOU should ASK ME in the name of me this I shall do."

Also remember there are TWO Persons called JEHOVAH (YAHWEH):

Genesis 19:24 (New World) "Then JEHOVAH made it rain sulphur and fire from JEHOVAH from the heavens,"
---Ernest_1 on 7/23/10

Christians are to pray AND worship only to God the Father. Jesus gave us an example:

"Father, in heaven, holy is your name..." Jesus did not say to pray to him. When you pray to God the Father, you acknowledge him first. This is a salutation like when you write a personal letter with "Dear Suzette" or when you want to call attention to a friend across the street by yelling "Hey Joe!"

As JackB says, "Jesus is our mediator."

Besides, Jesus was not a ventriloquist, throwing his voice into heaven, making people believe it was God the Father talking. And...

could the dead resurrect the dead?
---Steveng on 7/22/10

I think the reason we are to pray in the name of Jesus is it shows God that we acknowledge the fact that we are unworthy to ask for anything from Him and that only Christ is worthy. I think the Lord absolutely adores a humble heart.

Jesus is our mediator.

Just an analogy but I think of it as the Father handing the Son something we pray for because He is worthy and Christ freely giving it to us because we are His (purchased with His blood).
---JackB on 7/22/10

Carla, great answers you gave. With God there is order. I'm sure that God will not mind if people pray to Jesus, since He is God also, but Jesus was a human being, in the flesh, even though He was God in His Spiritual nature, and God wanted us to pray to the Father, by way of the Son. As you said, "BUT the begotten Son to the living God."
Each person within the Godhead with different asignments, yet all One and only God. This could not be done in the Old Testament before Christ came, so people prayed to God the Father. Once the Son was born as Jesus, we are told to pray to the Father by way of the Son.
---MarkV. on 7/21/10

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Well if that is the case Jesus spoke to Moses through the burning bush,Spoke to himself at the cross, his baptism ,Prayed and in the garden, and then calls himself the son when he is the Father.


How confusing, Can You not understand that he equates himself being son YESHUWAH and father YAHWEH to us the nation.BUT the begotten son to the the living God.

God said: tell them, I am sent you, Jesus said I am The bread.....I am the true vine, he said In my Fathers House there are many mansions,if it were not so I would have told you..


What did he say?
In My Fathers House!
---Carla on 7/20/10

Carla, Yhwh is Yeshuah. Jesus is God, and he also proved this.
---Eloy on 7/19/10


When Christ taught his disciple's how to pray he taught them saying Our father who are in heaven,

At the point of death as a human he prayed not to himself but to one that was in heaven.

When he was baptised, his father spake from out of the heavens, This is my beloved son....

Yes he is part of the God head given this authority by his father, he thinks it not disrespectful to equate himself one with God, but he is not YEHWEH.... I am, he is the Immanual, Prince of Peace, The bread of life... A medium to which we pray through.
---Carla on 7/19/10

Carla, you gave your answer to your question. We Christians pray to Christ, and we know that he alone is worthy and everlives to make intercession for us.
---Eloy on 7/18/10

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One can address prayers to Jesus as well as the Father if they wish. In some original Greek mms Jesus invited this. The Watchtower Society will not allow prayers to be addressed to Jesus because one can only pray to a person who is God. However, in The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of Jehovah's Witnesses, the literal interlinear translation of John 14:14 is, "If ever anything you should ask ME in the name of me this I shall do." (Emphasis mine) The New World Bible then translated the verse "If YOU ask anything in my name, I will do it." Only God can receive either prayer or worship!
---Ernest_1 on 7/18/10

Cluny: "Actually the last words out of St. Stephen's mouth before He died were, 'Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.' So he was praying to Jesus!"

Not quite. Actually, Stephen was in vision at the time and was talking with Jesus - not praying to Him.

Act 7:56 ..... I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Further, the words you quoted were not Stephen's last. These were:

Act 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
---jerry6593 on 7/17/10

when I am especially gripped by a bad "spirit", that I cannot seem to shake, I ask the Holy Spirit to comfort me and thank the Spirit for the strength (fruit) that is replacing the weakness of my flesh.

since I have been doing that I have not been struck by lightning, and later that day something will happen that accomplishes my request and the Father's will.

There is no formula or intrinsic power in the name Jesus. Otherwise, Mexico and its bordering nations would be very blessed. I do not believe that anybody know the real name of the Creator although many claim they do, and the Holy Spirit was sent by Jesus and proceeded from the Father. I believe the Spirit has equal authority, too.
---aka.joseph on 7/17/10

Pray through Jesus Christ to God!
---Carla on 7/17/10

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The reason we must pray to Jesus is because "God" is a title which means different things to different people. But there is only one Jesus, and says Jesus: "No human comes to The Father, except by me." Jn.14:6. This is one main reason why the prayers of people are not answered, they are not praying them to Jesus. You cannot get in contact with God without contacting the God Jesus. If you lay hands on the sick or try to cast out a demon by saying, "In God's name...", nothing will probably happen: but when you lay hands on the sick and say, "Be healed in the Name of Jesus", or cast out a demon by saying, "In the Name of Jesus I cast you out", then you would be successful.
---Eloy on 7/17/10

\\In answer to your question, we should pray to our heavenly Father, but in the name of Jesus our Savior.
---Doria on 7/16/10\\

Actually the last words out of St. Stephen's mouth before He died were, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

So he was praying to Jesus!
---Cluny on 7/16/10

In answer to your question, we should pray to our heavenly Father, but in the name of Jesus our Savior.
---Doria on 7/16/10

Well, the Bible does tell us to pray in the name of Jesus when we want something. When you pray in His Son's name, God hears you. I never pray to the Father unless I pray in the name of Jesus. Now in everyday conversation I might say, God so, so, or Jesus, so, so.
---catherine on 7/12/10

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When your praying to Jesus you Are praying to God. Matt.28 v 19 only 1 God & Jesus Christ Is His name, John 10 v 30 only 1 God & Jesus Christ Is His name, 1st.Tim.3 v 16 only 1 God & Jesus Christ Is His name, Colo.2 v 9 only 1 God & Jesus Christ Is His name, Rev.22 v 13 only 1 God & Jesus Christ Is His name. Even these John 8 v 16, John 10 v 38. John 14 v's 8 - 9. Only 1 God & Jesus Christ Is His name.
---Lawrence on 7/12/10

Jesus instructed us to pray to God the Father. Later in John he tells us "whatever you ask in my name..."

That shouldn't stop you from speaking with Jesus if you so desire.
---Pharisee on 11/10/07

Carla, if you speak to your earthly father by his name, his title to you, or nickname wil he still know you? Jesus is the Word of God in flesh. A precidence was set in Moses's time that God would not speak directly to the people but through His prophets. Jesus is a prophet of God. He is the Holy channel we use, yet He is God. Why should we be ignored by the same Father just because we use a different name? The veil of sin has been lifted yet the veil of forgiveness is on us all if we accept it.
---mikefl on 10/14/06

"In Jesus' name" means:
"In the authority of" - or - "by the authority of."

It speaks to the finished work of Jesus in redemption and our faith in that work.

It speaks of our faith in him as the mediator between God and man.

It expresses the attitude that I (in my self) am unworthy to approach God in prayer. I have nothing to offer to God except what I have received at the expense of His son.
---Bruce5656 on 10/13/06

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When we do what Jesus said in John 14:14 we aren't praying, but using His name in authority. The word ask in that verse means demand. In John 16:33 Jesus showed us our right to ask, demand, or petition God in His name. That's why folks say,"In Jesus' Name I pray, Amen(so be it)".
---Rickey on 10/13/06

Shawn ::This is where the Mystery of the Blessed Trinity comes into play .Many have ben trying to make a suitable anology but that is really not explainable & we are asked to beleive.& Trust.
---Emcee on 10/13/06

cont.... So why does Jesus say to ask in his name if we are able to ask The Father directly? Could it be that when we ask in Jesus name we are declaring to The principalities, the spiritual forces of evil, the powers of darkness that we are indeed praying to the One True God and not some foreingn God ? Are we not declaring to the heavens that are praying to the One true God Of heaven ?
---Shawn6747 on 10/13/06

The scriptures said that we are God's children , co-heirs with Christ(Romans 8:16-17) Jesus said to his disciples " In that day you will no longer ask me anything.I tell you the truth,My father will give you what ever you ask for in my name.(John 16:23)as co-heirs of God's kingdom we recieve same value as Christ Jesus. so , who do we pray to ? who do we worship ? The Father or the Son ? The answer is simple we pray to God for there is only one God cont....
---Shawn6747 on 10/13/06

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We pray to our Father God, but when we pray we also add in the name of Jesus. The reason we do that, for one, 1 Timothy 2:5-6 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. It shows God our reverence of His son, our Savior.
---Dottie on 10/13/06

We pray to God the Father, Jesus is the intercessor for us, he takes our prayers to the Father.

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
---Rev_Herb on 10/12/06

greetings,after jesus'ascention it became the practise of many believers to finish the lord's prayer with the addition of 'in th name of the lord jesus christ'.the first line of the lord's prayer is"our Father who art in heaven".jesus did not teach that we pray to him but to our Father.jesus said it is by his Father's will not his will(unlike lucifer,jesus never said my will) and so shall the Father's will be done in all that we pray for in heaven and on earth.
---earl on 10/12/06

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