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What Are Jesuites

Can someone please tell us what are Jesuites, what is their occupation and whom do they worship?

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AlanOfUk, that's a good one. A Jesuite` is a female Jesuit.
---cc on 10/26/08

Mic ... You are unfair on Eloy.

The question asked "what are Jesuites" and his suggestion was as credible as any others given.

Frances would have no better suggestion, unless it too was humourous.

But here is my suggestion ... A Jesuite is a female Jesuit.
---alan_of_UK on 10/25/08

as manifested, we can see that mic is still bearing false witness and still lost, and now we also see that he does not have humor, how shallow and vain it is to have no life with Christ.
---Eloy on 10/25/08

It is easier to resurrect old posts than the word of God in truth.Eloy has produced what he thinks is comedy but it is NOT THE always.Frances may have a truer answer.
---Mic on 10/24/08

Jesuites, are suites with "J's" on them...I jest.
---Eloy on 10/24/08

Helen::"I belong to the lord jesus christ"
Words are empty Vain vessels.In order for them to be filled with value they have to contain, Jesus teachings on which His Church was established.Your claim that you have no church shows you are apostate & just an empty vessel which do make a loud noise only.May God in His mercy bring you realisation.You must ADMIT or SUBMIT.
---Emcee on 10/23/08

.ed, God himself says that I am right, for I have the mind of Christ and his Holy Spirit. Isaiah 54:17; Galatians 2:20. It is up to others' freewill to become born-again and have the righteousness of Christ or not. The enemy had me to believe a lie before, but the child of truth learns to discern between lies and truth, and we hate every false way and cleave to the truth. Not all are saints sanctified by the God as I am, therefore I am not like "all the rest whom refuse to abide in truth."
---Eloy on 4/21/07

.ed, God himself says that I am right, for I have the mind of Christ and his Holy Spirit. Isaiah 54:17; Galatians 2:20. It is up to others' freewill to become born-again and have the righteousness of Christ or not. The enemy had me to believe a lie before, but the child of truth learns to discern between lies and truth, and we hate every false way and cleave to the truth. Not all are saints sanctified by the God as I am, therefore I am not like "all the rest whom refuse to abide in truth."
---Eloy on 4/21/07

This sounds like soap opera not real life.
---Ed on 4/21/07

It's "Jesuits," not "Jesuites." They are the Pope's henchmen; the bloody architects of the counter-reformation and the murderous inquisition. See:

History of the Jesuits by Dr. J. A. Wylie

The Secret History of the Jesuits by Edmond Paris

The Diabolical History of the Society of Jesus by Eric Jon Phelps

The Jesuit Oath, U.S. House Congressional Record, 1913, p. 3216.
---jerry6593 on 4/21/07

And who is to say that you are not wrong. Why should you be right and others wrong.
Have you ever been wrong before? Of course you have. Because you are a human being (like the rest of us!).
---Ed on 4/20/07

Apologies for getting personal.
God Bless brother.
---Ed on 4/20/07

Thanks for your reply
---Ed on 4/20/07

Ed - If you are in even the slightest doubt about something then don't do it. My dad brought me up on this, and it has proven to be true over and over. There is nothing at all wrong with getting married. You can be married and serve the Lord too.
---Helen_5378 on 4/20/07

.ed, I judge righteous judgment, but you abide in darkness, therefore you err in judgment and you speak falsehood. "Woe to them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Isaiah 5:20.
---Eloy on 4/19/07

.ed, When I say you are wrong, and I name your wrong whether an idolater, or something else, that makes me a truth-bearer and not prejudiced. A prejudiced person wrongly exults or diminishes one person or thing among other equal persons or things; and that is not the samething as a person who judges by RIGHTLY exulting or dimishing one person or thing among other UNequal persons or things. There is right and there is wrong, and they are not equal, and so I rightly lift up the standard to the people.
---Eloy on 4/19/07

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Yes me. Not sure whether to become a friar or get married. I am in a lot of doubt. Sometimes I think God wants me to get married and have lots of kids, other times that i should just being doing social work as a single friar.
I guess i haven't met right woman yet. Or maybe just need to mature a bit before choosing the other life. Not too sure.
---Ed on 4/19/07

Not "going to", "thinking about" - i have two friends who are in the exact same boat: get married or become a clergyman / monk / friar etc .. I have no desire to become a priest / minister though. Anyway thanks for listening!
---Ed on 4/19/07

catherine, the Word Faith crowd will tell you be careful with speaking that over yourself - or it could come to pass, a self-fulfilling prophecy.
---Diane on 4/19/07

Ed - Were you the one who was going to become a friar?
---Helen_5378 on 4/19/07

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Your prejudice and ignorance about Catholics / Catholicism is overwhelming.

The Jesuits have been a thorn in the side of the Papacy from the moment they were initiated about 500 years ago. They have been banned, on various occasions, by the Papacy. They have played an important part in refoming the Church.
---Ed on 4/19/07

It blows me to kingdom come.>>>That a blogger starts out quoting a scripture, speaking God's name and just ruins it all by BLASTING another's religion. Take me A wayyyyyyyyyyy.
---catherine on 4/19/07

a sect of catholics. They have various occupations: doctors, lawyers, teachers, drivers, bakers, ect. They are idolaters.
---Eloy on 4/18/07

Jesuites is just a name of their group, but they are members of the catholic religion.
---Eloy on 4/18/07

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Jeanne, your comments to Augusta and other Catholics was appreciated. And you needn't worry about God getting lost among the saints. I come from a large family and my own father never got forgotten or lost among my siblings or cousins or many other extended family members. Loving my brethren by blood or adoption through Christ only strengthens my love for God My Father in Heaven. You are not an only child in the Family of God, we are meant to love one another just as Jesus taught us.
---lorra8574 on 4/18/07

Are you married or not? If not would you like to penpal? I am single and looking for a Christian wife. I like your zest however i disagree with the way you often put things.
Love, Ed.
---Ed on 4/18/07

Any one that preaches another Gospel is preaching an accursed doctrine which Paul warns against. I have not read what Helen has said in it's entirety but I know one thing for Sure. The teachings of the RCC are false including their idol worshiping of Jesus Mother Mary. Reference to Idol worship Commandments/ throughout the bible is example enough for one to direct worship towards the true and living God/Christ alone unless one cannot read.
---Carla5754 on 4/18/07

Helen-I do not think that telling the truth is preaching hate.

I know that you are not telling the truth, so yes you are preaching hate and discrimination.
---grace3869 on 11/21/06

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Helen::I have remained silent, trying to understand what motivates your hatred Towards Jesus Church under the heading of RCC.I really do not find any thing other than a judgement from you based on the past history of discreations done by mortal human being like yourself.But then to blatantly claim that the successors are liars & what ever terminology that exits your mouth is calumny against The God you profess to love .what does that tell you?I leave you to specify if you are honest.
---Emcee on 11/20/06

Helen ... If you read back to posts of 11/13 and 11/14, you will see what I mean.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/20/06

AlanUKquent - I do not believe for one moment that I am telling lies about the RCC. If you think I am lying, then would you please tell me specifically what it is that you think I am lying about?
---Helen_5378 on 11/20/06

Grace3869 - I do not think that telling the truth is preaching hate. Do you think that Jesus preached hate too when He called people things like "whitewashed tombs full of dead men's bones"? I have not gone that far - yet!
---Helen_5378 on 11/20/06

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Helen ... You may think the Roman catholic Church is the most pwerful and evil organisation in the legions of Satan. As I have said, it is your right to say so.
BUT, that does not mean that you are sinless when you tell lies about it. That makes you evil too.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/20/06

Helen-You know Alan, if the RCC makes me mad I wonder just what it does to God? Religion is a stench in God's nostrils.

I expect Helen that God has more respect for the Catholic church then he does for people who preach hate, such as yourself. If one could predict who God would be angry at it seems like you'd be the more likely candidate.
---grace3869 on 11/19/06

Augusta I know U & any other Catholics on this blog U love Jesus too I "get" that.It is then up to Him to correct any "wrongs" just like He does w/me. Just dont let him get lost among the Saints, truly from the heart I say this not as a "smart alec". One lives and learns do I agree w/ your doctrine no. Does that mean we "cant" love each other, I sure hope not.
---Jeanne on 11/19/06

AlanUKquent - The RCC is an abomination to God. It is fraught through and through with heresies and idolatry. Not to mention all the paedophiles that they protect. Don't ever expect me to call something that is evil good (Isaiah 5:20 "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil.."). You know Alan, if the RCC makes me mad I wonder just what it does to God? Religion is a stench in God's nostrils.
---Helen_5378 on 11/19/06

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Helen ... You have the right to think that the Roman Church is evil.
We both believe it to be misguided.
But I will not tell lies about it.
Don't you think it is evil to tell lies?
I don't think Jesus told lies, even of those wh persecuted Him.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/19/06

*Augusta, You say biased knowing nothing about me.*

I apologize for the rash judgment, Jeanne.

I based it solely on your comment that 'the Cath Church teaches that the pope can't sin.' I can see now that you were honestly unaware that is was incorrect.
---augua9846 on 11/19/06

They are far apart. The following teachings of the RC in Salvation, baptism, security in Christ, Idol worship, Mary rise to diety and much more are so different no one can say they are not far apart. Just the idol worship along divides the two. All the other details are minor but worshipping Mary, and all the saints for miracles is a sin. So anyone that says different does not know what they are talking about, takes a nutural stance, and there is no compromise to God's Word.
---Lee_1 on 11/19/06

Helen ... I notice you do not try to justify or withdraw the lie.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/19/06

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You say biased knowing nothing about me. The Catholics I asked told me that-- born a Jew I had no way of knowing. My family escaped the ovens from Catholics helping them. Out of respect my grandparents took the last names of these good Catholic people when they came to America. W/out that help I would not be here for U to even call me biased. I innocently asked 2 Priests, a nun & a co-worker from Rome & Catholic. If they are wrong so be it but I asked innocently to get my facts right.
---Jeanne on 11/18/06

The Jesuite info. I got from a Catholic bookstore, I read it right there. Jesuits good/bad they had tons of info.the nun helped me greatly when I asked/that is when the Priest came in also answered me.But I was told this by them I would have no knowledge otherwise. Jews believe totally different,no images,pictures,marriage of Rabbi's etc. I asked being completly open & curious since I like to study relgions since 3 biggies started were my ancestors came from Israel. Jews/Islam/& Christians.
---Jeanne on 11/18/06

4. A God of truth and without injustice; Righteous and upright is He." 2 Samuel 22:2, "The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my Deliverer; The God of my strenth in whom I will trust; My sheild and the horn of my salvation, My stronghold and my refuge; My Savior, you save me from violence." Psalms 61:2, "He only is my rock and my salvation; He is my defese; I shall not be greatly moved." You see Augusta, I am just giving you a few of what God
---lisa on 11/18/06

5. has to say in His Word about who that rock is in Matthew. We are all responsible for reading God's word correctly as a whole. Also everyone has a right to do as they please and read Scripture for themselves. Peter in no way was a rock, but a pebble as all the other apostles were. The rock in found in Christ along, and that is why the church is the body of Christ who is the head of His Church. He is the rock.
---lisa on 11/18/06

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Lisa, that's fine. I just wanted the source for the pope's quote you posted so I could read it & check the context, not for discussion purposes anyway. I have no prob discussing anything about the Church or its history; I just prefer to stay on the subject topic unless I see misinformation that needs correcting.

So just cite your source for the document for me and we can go back to the other thread and continue the discussion on the authority issue if you like. Thanks.
---augusta on 11/18/06

AlanUKquent - That is because it is evil.
---Helen_5378 on 11/18/06

Hello Augusta, I found that answering concerning the Catholic church is not doing any good bringing the past of the church. I only answered "you know who" on account of what he had told me about the Catholic church been the church that Christ spoke of. There is so much prove it is not. I believe also that continuing to bring their atrocities out does not bring glory to God in the least specially when it concerns the chosen people of God, the Jews.
---lisa on 11/18/06

2. The subject doctrine concerning who is the rock is found many times in Scripture and Christ is the rock talked about in many passages that it makes clear that Matthew 16:18 is not in anyway talking about Peter as the rock. Christ is the rock that is spoken of and many passages give prove of that. I know many make an issue of it and make a whole religion on that passage in Matthew. What happens is they try to find one passage that seems to imply just that but is really a wrong interpretation of context.
---lisa on 11/18/06

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3. Now you can base your believes on that passage or read the whole of Scripture to know that our Lord, is the rock talked about all through Scripture from the very beginning of Genesis 49:24, "But His bow remained in strength, And the arms of His hands were made strong. By the hands of the Might God of Jacob (from there is the Shepherd, the stone of Israel)." Det. 32:4, "He is the rock, His work is perfect For all His ways are justice,
---lisa on 11/18/06

Alan ::Thank you I know where you are coming from & respect your sincerity.
---Emcee on 11/17/06

Emcee ... I do not dispute what you say. there are many "add-ons" and "hows" in all the denominations.
But I think you misunderstood my comment.
I am sad that there are those non-RCs who persist in putting forward the lie that the RCC says that non-RCs can't go to heaven.
My sadness is about those who hate the RC so much that they can see it only as evil.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/17/06

Alan::Your "sad" comment needs clarification.You mistake some truthts as untruths.Can you tell me without a doubt who goes to heaven (Saved) & who does NOT.I cannot assume & neither can you. That is why I do not believe in OSAS,or any presumptious statement.My contention is that He who lives according to Jesus words in its total entirity,in a state of Grace, has a better standing & understanding.Would you say that is fair OR unfair.
---Emcee on 11/17/06

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Helen ... No, the Bible never lies, but sadly there are those here, who persist in their lie that the RCC says that non-RCs can't go to heaven.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/17/06

Lisa - that is my point! I will only use the Bible as a starting point - and ending point. I will not refer to any other documents as being useful for doctrine. ONLY the Bible will I listen to. Even something that is based on the Bible, I will STILL check against the Bible.
---laure5759 on 11/16/06

The Bible, in itself, is sufficient for explaining itself satisfactorily to the man, or woman, of God. If the Holy Spirit is in you, He will lead and guide you into all truth (John 16:13). The Holy Spirit is sufficient. Other people are not necessary, although useful for agreement. However, we find them necessary when we do not submit to the Holy Spirit's guidance.
---laure5759 on 11/16/06

Lisa, you haven't even finished the discussion you started w/ me on the: 'Is Scripture Alone Correct' blog yet. The authority issue you're asking me about here is what we were discussing over there.. and you just left me hanging.

You also never gave me the source for that Pope Adrian VI quote you posted that I asked you for. I still want to read it in its entirety. Can you post it here for me please?
---augusta on 11/16/06

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Your lack of Christian charity has been an enlightening witness.

You have single-handedly done more to keep me in the Catholic Church than any other Christian I have ever known. Thank you.
---augusta on 11/16/06

Augusta, and all of you follow the same doctrines. Now what could have more authority then Scripture Augusta? What in this world has more authority then the Word of God, the Bible? No one seems to know or have an answer. Just name me one thing with more authority then God.
---lisa on 11/16/06

Grace3869 - I put to you that it is not so-called "bashing" of your faith that you cannot stand, it is the truth that is being told. Check it all out and see for yourself.
---Helen_5378 on 11/16/06

Augusta - I receive nothing from your precious catechism. I only receive from the Bible which I know to be true - God never ever lies.
---Helen_5378 on 11/16/06

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AlanUKquent - You finally get it!
---Helen_5378 on 11/16/06

Augusta ... Join the club!
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/16/06

I'm done here. Only 1/4 of my posts are making it.
---augua9846 on 11/16/06

Laure::"We appeal,- cause the Bible needs no explaination":the Howler of 2006!.Why do we have priests doctors of the church to explain the word of God THEN,every sunday.why go to church?FYI catholics views are congruent on Doctrine, because they come from One sourceMat16;17-19Jesus is the head of this RC Church.Catechisms are meant for this reason alone.Non Rc's will get into heaven but at the discreation of the Almighty,as He said Nothing defiled can enter heaven.Keep His commandments.
---Emcee on 11/16/06

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*You still appeal to your catechism a lot - we ONLY appeal to the Bible*

I appealed to the catechism to refute Helen's false claims regarding what the Church teaches. Are you saying Helen wrote the bible?

*because the Bible needs no explanation*

So then why are people posting here asking for explanations about the bible? LOL
---augusta on 11/16/06

Augusta - I have yet to see where your view differs from Emcee's - apart from the fact that you do acknowledge that non-RC's may get into heaven. You still appeal to your catechism a lot - we ONLY appeal to the Bible, because the Bible needs no explanation.
---laure5759 on 11/16/06

Grace, just so you know, I have requested Helen back up her allegations against the Church and myself when she has posted this before. I have also posted directly from the Catechism of the Catholic Church correcting her on these false statements. But Helen has no qualms when it comes to the sin of bearing false witness so she continues to repeat them and ignore requests for evidence.
---augusta on 11/16/06

Grace ... VBut never mind ... I have previously been condemned here for "betrayal" by making the point that RCs and nonRCs are not so far apart as some (on both sides) maintain.
I think we will not change Helen's view.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/16/06

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Helen, I knew you were going to say that. I can't answer for what someone else believes - I can only tell you what the doctrine is. I respect and understand that Emcee's generation were taught things like that. I don't know about Augusta's beliefs. I respect their right to interpret their faith as they see fit. Just as I respect your right to your faith. What I don't respect is bashing another person's faith, whether the "basher" is you or Emcee or anyone else.
---grace3869 on 11/15/06

Dan::Jesuits are an order of Priests In the RCC.This order was founded by Francis Xavier,born in Spain1506.Influenced by St Ignatius Of Loyola, he was ordained a priest in 1537He studied the scriptures & became a missionary travelled to India Goa where he set up colleges & was responsible for converting many to Christianity.Went to Japan,2years Returned to India1551. Jesuits study for 15 years & are well versed in the scriptures He was cannonised by Pope ClementVlll in1602 He died 2 Dec1552 at age 46
---Emcee on 11/15/06

Lee ::If I seem harsh to you, its because I stand up for my convictions.If you want to disbelieve Mat16:17-19, do so,but do not say it is MY church its Jesus's church.Dont discern FIRMNESS for harshness & if you do its your interpretation.Helen was,anRC& she knows what I am talking about you do not understand Her soul is more important than your admonishion of me.
---Emcee on 11/15/06

Grace3869 - Have a read of Augusta and Emcee's posts. They are both roman catholic and believe that.
---Helen_5378 on 11/15/06

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Helen- Catholics believe that a person has to belong to the RCC to go to heaven. They also believe that the RCC is the only true church! Alarm bells!

What is it with you Helen? I'm Catholic and I know for a fact that what you are saying IS NOT TRUE. I've told you this over and over again. It's simply not Catholic Doctrine. Why do you persist in telling lies about the Catholic church? If you can't convert people any other way then maybe it's your own faith you need to look at.
---grace3869 on 11/15/06

Helen - a point I tried to make earlier in this discussion.
---laure5759 on 11/15/06

Lee1 - Catholics believe that a person has to belong to the RCC to go to heaven. They also believe that the RCC is the only true church! Alarm bells!
---Helen_5378 on 11/14/06

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