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Who Is Riding The White Horse

Who is this rider mentioned in revelation 6:2?" And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

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The Son of man.
---duke on 12/16/07

Two white horse riders: the one here in Rev 6:2 is the antichrist. The other in Rev. 16 is the real Jesus. Islam teaches Jesus will return to support their messiah (the Mahdi). They teach He will come on a white horse to have all submitt. This first rider is a pretender. The second rider later in Rev. 16 is Jesus, and he comes with the host of heaven. With the rise of Islam, their rider for conquest may come soon. Be aware and be strong, the first rider will signal the beginning of the end times.
---Scott on 12/30/06

kathr, No, actually you are the one who brought Calvinism up, by writing early on in this particular blog, to Mrs. Morgan, "I guess the difference between you/Calvinists, and me is, you all don't have a heart for the lost. All you do is condemn, and all the Calvinists do is say God doesn't want them and never did." This is the statement to which I took and continue to take exception. It is an inaccurate assessment and false statement.
---daphn8897 on 12/26/06

daphne8897. I want to wish you a very Merry Christmas. Still don't know where you are coming from..Sorry. "This" post has nothing to do with Calvinism. Calvin was never mentioned here except from you. That's what threw me by your statement. Unless you are saying Elder is a Calvinist,and you thought I was arguing with Elder's Calvin doctrine?!? I was stating my own thoughts, just as others here have done.

My comments were not based on ANYONE'S doctrine. This is about Rev 6:2,not Elder.
---katyhr4453 on 12/23/06

Which white horse are you taking about please clear this up for my understanding
---James on 12/22/06

kathr, My point is/was that your assumption that I was attacking you is an emotionally based one. And, your charge earlier in this blog, that "Calvinists" condemn, is bogus. We do not. However, we do point out scripture that folks these days don't want to here. Perhaps you are the one confused, confusing conviction with condemnaton?
---daphn8897 on 12/21/06

Jesus already has a crown and would not need another to be given Him. who on earth could give it? and why only one? when in previous chapters to rev.6 it says that those many in heaven gave to Him their crowns.

Jesus would not use a bow. His weapon of choice is the sword of the spirit, the word of God.

the horse may or may not be symbolic just like the bow. but both cannot compare to Jesus riding His heavenly horse accompanied by all the saints. rev.19
---JaeR on 12/21/06

daphn8897, Exactly it is About Him and Truth. Maybe you have misunderstood that to be emotion?? It's not, it's conviction.
---kathr4453 on 12/20/06

The white horse rider is the antichrist.
---Nellah on 12/20/06

daphn8897, I too believe that Christian's must many times lay emotions to the side, or they will totally miss the message God is trying to give them, becoming UNSTABLE. Emotions most time interfere with godly reasoning. God said come let us reason together. Emotions can be good, But There is a time and a place for everything in regard to the things of God, including emotions. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 12/20/06

kathr, My comments were in no way attacking you. They were challenging you to actually know what you are talking about. You appear to rely more on your emotions - choosing to take my words as an insult. It isn't about you anyway - it is about Him and the truth and power of His word. Again, I ask you... who's really stirring strife here?
---daphn8897 on 12/20/06

Debbie; your answer to this question has been at school lesson for me. I want to thank you for teaching me things I didn't know.
---Mima on 12/10/06

Daphn8891: That is my true conviction.Many different doctrines here are being challenced,RE; SDA,Catholocism,Mormonism, JW's. I also give a clear reason why I believe as I do. If you want to challence my reasoning, or defend your faith, please do so. I don't attack people...only doctrine. You on the other hand have attacked me. I do find when one challenges a belief that one cannot defend,or is put on the spot,rather then defend their belief,they call names and assult the person. This practice cults use.
---kathr4453 on 12/10/06

all too often many on this blog site insult and offend many ... its time we christians set a true example on what a true christian is...lets blog decently and respectively of each others belief...
---law on 12/6/06

kathr, I was addressing your comment about those whom you classify as Calvinist. You put out a negative comment base upon uninformed opinion. You commented publically, hence my public correction. Now, who's stirring strife?
---daphn8891 on 12/5/06

karen; I'm not following you, and I didn't disagree with Elder.

daphne, can't figure out what this blog has to do with calvinism.

Sorry, don't follow either of you.
The point to my comment was, those in Christ are safe, regardless of when or what these verses are about. Many here, who KNOW their Bible's don't agree on Rev 6:2. We're all just putting our thought in. No one has criticized anyone. To suggest I have makes YOU a troublemaker.
---kathr4453 on 12/3/06

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Sister Kathr, you have made an attempt to tell brother Elder the same you have said to others, that he and others don't follow Christ but are outside of Christ. You seem to do it different now but the same attempt. That is an unwarranted attack to so many here on line that don't agree with you, that have made a true commitment to Christ. Why not just stay within Scripture?
---karen on 12/2/06

Kathr, We "Calvinists" do not condemn. We simply state that God chooses whom He wills. His reasons are righteous and good regardles of whether or not we understand them. Also, we don't know who He's chosen or not... and therefore are responsible to speak to every man/woman as though He has chosen them. So, before you take a swing at reformed theology, know a bit more about it.
---daphn8897 on 11/29/06

The rider on the white horse shows peace and prosperity. We look for a decree of "peace and safety," including a covenant with the Jews for seven years. The conqueror has a bow but no arrows, revealing conquest without blood. He will be diplomatic. He will have flowery words, he will be trusted because his true nature will not be revealed until the middle of the 7 years. He will hold a promise bow rather than a battle bow.
---Debbie on 11/29/06

#2 Later, a crown will be given to him, indicating authority. This is the anti-christ.
---Debbie on 11/29/06

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Elder,thanks. Here are some thoughts too you will agree:
1.WE are more than conquerers IN CHRIST
2.Jesus said, in the world you will have tribulation, but IN ME you will have peace.
3.Seek those things which are above, and not below Colossians 3:1-4.(1 st John. Pride of life, lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh is of the devil, earthly etc.
4. Those who are not IN CHRIST are dead so to speak. (Jesus said I am the way,truth and LIFE.
This could be a recap of life outside of Jesus Christ?!?
---kathr4453 on 11/28/06

kathr4453, look at all the riders in ch6;
The 1st went forth conquering and to conquer. Taking by force.
The 2nd took peace from the (entire) earth.
The 3rd caused great inflation, money failure and pain.
The 4th caused death.
These are Judgements being poured out and we never see these things happening while being involved with Christ.
If the 1st rider was Christ the others could not have rode.
---Elder on 11/27/06

The bow mentioned in Rev.6:2 is not to "bow over" as in birthpains, as in the context one gives a bow like after a performance [a verb]. A type of bow [noun] is most likely what he had. The rider also appears 'after' The Lamb opens the 1st seal, 3 other horsemen follow. In Rev.19:11-16, the rider is named & described, no 'bow', but a sword coming out of His mouth [cp.Rev.1:9-(16)18].
---bob_[Elishama] on 11/24/06

Elder , Question 2
Why does it say at the end of Chapter 6, ' and the wrath of the Lamb has come. Is the end of Chapter 6 a summary of the whole chapter?

It couldn't be the anti-christ, because he hasn't been given his power yet, if you are talking about a person " THE anti-christ. Yet from the beginning of the Church, there have been Many anti-christs.
---kathr4453 on 11/24/06

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Elder #3
Do you have any other scripture to back up satan or the anti-christ being given a crown? You know there has to be either 1 or 2 to back that up. All truths have a witness.

The crown that was placed on the top of the Ark of the Covenant stood for "King of Kings" and "Lord of Lords".
Jesus also said vengence belongs to Him.
---kathr4453 on 11/24/06

Revelation 19: 11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were ***many crowns***; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
---kathr4453 on 11/24/06

Elder, Question. Does the anti-christ really have this power. I thought he wanted all to worship him, by bring peace and miracles etc, but here he has power over nature, etc. I always thought God had the power of life and death etc. Just a question.
---kathr4453 on 11/23/06

To understand this scripture you must study the use of horses, the other three riders and the crowns.
Studying the Bible is not just a simple, I read the Bible and get a thought. It is about all the verse teaches.
There are two kinds of crowns, Diadem worn by the rider in ch 19 and Stephanos worn by the rider in ch 6.
The rider in ch 6 precedes carnage, death, famine and so on.
This rider is on a warring animal carrying a warring weapon.
Christ comes in ch 19 carrying the Sword of His word.
---Elder on 11/23/06

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Compare Rev.6:1-2 to Rev.19:11-16, and what follows each rider. Oxymoron, or just interesting?
---Bob_[Elishama] on 11/22/06

This is an interesting study.
I just looked up "bow" Rev 6:2 in strongs 5115 = toxon from the base of 5088 tikto. The bow as the simplest fabric. 5088= to produce, bear, bring forth be delivered, be in travail.

I believe this could be the beginning birth pangs of the re-birth of Israel.
---kathr4453 on 11/21/06

Genesis 49 is prophecy for the LAST DAYS.

Genesis 49:23The archers have sorely grieved him,and shot at him, and hated him:
24But his bow abode in strength,andthe arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob;(from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)
25Even by the God of thy father,who shall help thee;and by the Almighty,who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above,blessings of the deep that lieth under,blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
---kathr4453 on 11/21/06

Rev Herb, You say it's the anti-christ. Is that because you have put the Rapture of the Church after Rev 3. Now,if the Rapture hasn't taken place yet, would that make a difference? What if the Rapture was Rev 10:7. Could it possibly be the final call to repentance through judgements before the Kingdom Reign promised to Israel? The "Mystery of God" is mentioned 2 times in scripture. Once in Col 2,(the Church) and the other in Rev 10:7. Rev 10:7 is also AT(not after)the last trump. 1 Cor 15.
---kathr4453 on 11/21/06

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Mrs. Morgan, I believe it's God's heart that all come to repentance. It won't happen, but I believe we have a compassionate God that will do all that is possible to bring to repentance. I guess the difference between you/Calvinists, and me is, you all don't have a heart for the lost. All you do is condemn, and all the Calvinists do is say God doesn't want them and never did. The luke warm are not saved. But those judgements just may set many on fire if you know what I mean. I may be absolutely wrong.
---kathr4453 on 11/21/06

The rider is not the antichrist, neither is it directly Jesus in this passage. It represents the administration of the church. The white horse represents righteousness and justice, and its rider is the deliverers of righteousness in the era through Christendom. It represents the era of the early church, before and during the climax of their persecution and their outreach. It may be a little more complicated. The 2nd seal shows the discord, wickedness and warefare that set in among the nations afterward
---Okebaram on 11/21/06

MORE: the third seal shows the corruption and consequences that overtake individuals and governments, the fourth seal shows peril, suffering, sickness and death, the fifth seal is our present era, and speaks of the patience but not ignorance of vengeance upon the evil done to believers past and peresent and in the world. The church condemns the ungodly. At the sixth seal, comes the tribulation, and afterward comes judgement and God's glorious kingdom. (Sorry, I talk too much).
---Okebaram on 11/21/06

The Word does not say that the rider on the white horse is "carrying a weapon". It says that he "has a bow". If you look up the Greek word for "bow", you will find nothing that is weapon related. The only person I know of who has ever had a crown given to him is Jesus. He was given a crown of thorns (by which He conquered) and a crown of glory when He ascended and sat down.
---Linda6563 on 11/21/06

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Besides all this, the book of Revelation is the Revelation of Jesus Christ, not the revelation of the anti-Christ. The first five words of the book make that abundantly clear. If I write a book and call it "the revelation of Linda", you would expect me to talk about myself, not about something that wasn't me.
---Linda6563 on 11/21/06

This rider on the white horse is carrying a weapon, a bow. Notice he has no arrows.
We never see Jesus carrying a weapon. His sword is the words that He speaks.
If this were Jesus riding this horse the other riders could not come on the scene.
This is the fake, it is the antichrist.
This occurs during the first part of the Tribulation.
---Elder on 11/21/06

kathr4453, It's rare to hear "Once Saved Always Saved" proponents say the word "lukewarm".
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/21/06

(II.)kathr, Because OSAS doctrine: IS LUKEWARM.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/21/06

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Why is it important to know weather this rider is the antichrist or not? Because it changes the meaning. If you change meaning, you don't get the true teaching of the bible. That is why there are so many different denominations, they choose there own meaning.
---Rev_Herb on 11/21/06

I will have to say in researching many different takes of these scriptures, it's not one to get in a huge argument over. Rather it's one to soberly sit and humbly ask the Lord for Guidance. Both sides have a very very good argument. So good in fact, I can see truth in both. Is the white horse deception? Or is it the preaching of the Gospel?
All I do know is, Jesus won on His White Horse! Rev 19
---kathr4453 on 11/21/06

Matthew Henry Commentary states that the rider is Jesus Christ. White horses do not go into battle, because they attract (usually unwanted) attention. Jesus, however, is certain of victory. The horse is the pure gospel of Truth.
---laure5759 on 11/21/06

These verses are one of the hardest in Revelations to understand. There are very good prophetic teachers who are not themselves absolutely sure. Some think it is Christ, and some the anti-christ. Scripture teaches scripture, and in Rev 19, Jesus is on a White Horse. White has always been symbolic of righteousness, so I wonder why the contradiction of thought and symbolism? Peter says judgment begins in the house of the Lord. One last call to the luke warm??!!??
---kathr4453 on 11/20/06

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These verses are one of the hardest in Revelations to understand. There are very good prophetic teachers who are not themselves absolutely sure. Some think it is Christ, and some the anti-christ. Scripture teaches scripture, and in Rev 19, Jesus is on a White Horse. White has always been symbolic of righteousness, so I wonder why the contradiction of thought and symbolism? Peter says judgment begins in the house of the Lord. One last call to the luke warm perhaps??!!??
---kathr4453 on 11/20/06

Rev_Herb , Is correct in this regard. The anti-Christ will be on a white horse, destroying many with his "false peace"(Daniel 8:25). Jesus appears on a white horse here:(Revelation 19:13). Jesus is coming as the Lion of the tribe of Judah, and ALL of His enemies will be put under His feet(Revelation 14:14-20)!God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/20/06

Try a cross study; Rev6 and Mat.24. Rev 6:1-2=Mat24:4-5, 6:3-4=24:6, 6:5-6=24:7, 6:7-8 =24:9. It will help. Note that the LAMB opened the seals, the horseman could not be Him. It is Satan (to conquer is anti-christ)vs 9 is Jews under Hitler. vs 12 is tribulation (see ch 1l:6). The Holy Ghost appears in ch7:2.
---mikefl on 11/20/06

Where do you get these answers???? The rider in the white horse in Rev 6:2 is the antichrist. Rightly divide the word. Is your understanding or Rev. that dim? I thought everyone knew it was the antichrist.
---Rev_Herb on 11/20/06

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The rider is the Holy Spirit! The first thing to happen after Christ ascended into heaven was the sending of the Holy Spirit.
Read Acts 2:33.

The Greek for "conquer in 6:2 is nikao (3528) and means to overcome. Strongs says, to subdue ... conquer, overcome, prevail, get the victory. The Greek for triumphed in Rev. 5:5 is the same word used for conquer in Rev. 6:2. Rev 5:5 say, has overcome, has won a victory, has prevailed.
---kathr4453 on 11/20/06

This is from Family Bible Notes (A commentary):

Revalations 6:2
A white horse; here, as in Zec 1:8; 6:1-8, the horses denote dispensations, the character of which is indicated by their color and the other emblems employed. A white horse is the symbol of victory. The rider plainly represents Christ. It is therefore a symbol of victory and under his guidance, and redounding to the enlargement of his church.
---sam on 11/20/06

There are 4 seals opened in order. Each has a horse of different color but all are in war. This is my take on this: the first horse represents the Son,See Rev.19:11-13. The 2nd. horse reperesents the Holy Spirit. Love, Joy, and Peace will be removed by that one as people will be killing eachother. The sword (of the Spirit)will avenge the blood of the martyrs in :10. The third is the Father as he has a balance to weigh in justice and truth.The 4th is Satans.
---john on 11/20/06

This is the antichrist.
---Rev_Herb on 11/20/06

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