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Works Pleasing To God

Does this verse in Colossians 1:10," That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;" imply that we might be pleasing to the Lord by our works?

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Mt 7:21. Agree.

Note the following verse "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not...in thy name done many wonderful works?", clearly indicating that they thought that their works were sufficient or ???

I am not defending goats Nicole. all good comes from the Father, whether it be a measure of faith, belief, even good works that people do, are to His praise and glory, as none are able of themselves.

also, vs 24, "Therefore, whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them..."

Yes, those who do the Father's will, enter the kingdom of heaven.
---chria9396 on 11/15/17


Samuel,

Well said.

I apologize if I have posted anything confusing.

The goats focus on self would indicate a belief in themselves,their works, rather than the Lord.
---chria9396 on 11/8/17


I am confused. The goats thought their religious accomplishments were all they needed. Jesus said they failed for they didn't help the poor or the sick. Or those in prison. Apparently all the goats thought about was themselves and if they could get a second jet.

They didn't care about others.

The Sheep cared and helped others. They loved in deed and words. Not just words.

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 11/8/17


Sorry Chria, Jesus FINISHED that verse in Matthew 7:21 by saying ONLY those will enter Heave who DOES the WILL of His Father

"Not believe in Me, or have faith in Me.

But 'DOES' as an Action - Verb.

Chria: Also,goats apparently thought they had sufficient works//

Again, you are implanting your wishing and thoughts into Jesus' Words.

The Goat DIDN'T do a THING!

Not one WORK to build on to think it would be sufficient.

It's one thing to come up short on your bill, but another thing to come up emptied handed.

Remember, Jesus said if you give a cup of water to a Prophet you are still blessed.

That is a Work which the goats still would do.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/8/17


Nicole,
"Jesus gives NO excuses". I have not said that he made excuses.

Mt 7:21 So why do some say "lord, Lord"? I am simply attempting to answer the why

(Perhaps it would have been better to use "why" in my previous post instead of "how".)

The fact that some do the Fathers will is because of faith. Many think they are saved,as verses given indicate, but if their faith were fully in the Lord, then they would do the works he spoke of.

Even the demons believe and tremble, a certain 'belief' is insufficient.

Also,goats apparently thought they had sufficient works and/or belief, as indicated by responses, when did we see thee ...when did we not...
---chria9396 on 11/8/17




Chria, thank you for answering but I still believe you are jumping about the parable when Jesus Himself is very DIRECT and CLEAR in Matthew 25 concerning the goats and the sheep.

Jesus gives NO excuses even when the people try to make excuses when they find themselves SENTENCED to hell for not doing GOOD works. Faith in Jesus didn't cut it. Obviously both groups KNEW Jesus but didn't recognized Him in outside His Gloried Body.

FAITH is not mentioned nor is it taken into consideration for Salvation in Matthew 25 as in this verse as well.

Matthew 7:21
Not everyone who says to me "Lord, Lord", will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, BUT only ONE who DOES the will of my Father who is in Heaven
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/28/17


pt 2

Also, Jesus himself did not take credit for what he said and did:

There's a distinction to be made, and that is the what
(works), and the how.

If Jesus always went to the Father, trusted Him and gave glory to Him, then Jesus' disciples will do likewise.

The Father in Jesus, Jesus in the Father.

the believer in Christ and Christ within.

Jesus said he will dwell with and in them.

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Jn 14:10,
---chria9396 on 10/27/17


Nicole,

I've been away and wanted to give this attention it deserves...my apologies.

There's much that could be said concerning this. Jesus words are very important.

Verses given concern when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and those who inherit the kingdom, or not.
Of note is that both groups asked of the Lord...when did we (sheep), and when did we not (goats), indicating somethings of their perception.

" Please explain WHY the lack of works would be the primary reason for entry or not entering heaven as spoken by Jesus?"

Lack of works are indicative of lack of faith. Jesus(in red letters): "He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also" jn 14:12

Cont...
---chria9396 on 10/27/17


Chria: works themselves don't save.//

Please explain WHY the lack of works would be the primary reason for entry or not entering heaven as spoken by Jesus?

I am asking you to EXPLAIN Matt 25 on Jesus' Words not using Paul's words to explain Jesus' own Words.

It just seems that when a person can't explain Jesus' Words they pass the Gospels to Paul to try to explain the Gospel.

In other words can you explain again WITHOUT using Paul's Words.

Because if we only had the Gospels it would be enough to explain our Salvation.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/17/17


Nicole, I answered your question("Are you saying those works of NOT feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick are God's fault?"), my answer, 'no'.
"I got that idea because of your whole blog using Paul's words to (seem to) discount Jesus' Words."
Nicole, "seem to" is your perspective. I in no way desire or attempted to discount Jesus' words. As for Mt 25:31-46 I see no conflict.
works themselves don't save.
Some do "good" 1Cor 13, but lack love/charity, "charitable" works without belief in God, some missed opportunity when they did not do for the least of these. this is more than missing an isolated opportunity, but more so missing a way, which IS Christ
---chria9396 on 10/17/17




What loving father does not want his children to be loving and kind?

Matthew 25 those who are not loving and caring for others. They will be goats and not go to heaven.

For the followers of Jesus Love GOD and love others. It is our nature from being Born Again.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 10/12/17


part 2
(did not go through yesterday)

Walk, ( in ep 2:10 and Col 1:10)
G4043 peripateo. tread all around, walk at large. fig. to live, deport oneself, follow, go, be occupied with

workmanship:
G4161 poiema. a product, fabric, thing made

ordained
G4282 proetoimazo. to fit up in advance, prepare ordain before
---chria9396 on 10/12/17


Chira, my question is about Matthew 25:31-46 with Jesus speaking NOT Paul. Jesus is VERY CLEAR

Again here is my question:
"Are you saying those works of NOT feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick are God's fault?"

I got that idea because of your whole blog using Paul's words to (seem to) discount Jesus' Words.

Matthew 25:40

"The King (Jesus not Paul) will reply, "Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me."

Jesus is speaking about DIRECT actions/WORKS by others to others with Jesus being the RECIPIENT of the WORKS performed or NOT performed as in V45

Please address Jesus' Words.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/11/17


Nicole:
"Are you saying those works of NOT feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick are God's fault?" No. Where did you get that idea?

""//Interesting that the verse ends with "that we should walk in them" rather than we should do them.--chria9396
V10 is speaking about the TYPE of workmanship that results in good works. Christ's workmanship.""

gift of God vs 8
not of works vs 9
For....
we are HIS workmanship...(God's)
created in Christ Jesus
unto good works
which God hath before ordained
THAT we should walk in them

cont...
---chria9396 on 10/11/17


//Not "our" works per se, but rather works prepared by God,//

Are you saying those works of NOT feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick are God's fault?

Eph 2:8-10 is like when a teacher teaches a student to play the piano, and they end up playing Beethoven's Fur Elise'.

Who is actually playing Fur Elise? The Teacher or the student? The student.

//Interesting that the verse ends with "that we should walk in them" rather than we should do them.--chria9396

V10 is speaking about the TYPE of workmanship that results in good works. Christ's workmanship.

That path we should walk in.

The devil's workmanship leads to bad works in which evil men walk in that path.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/3/17


josef,

Thanks, and as you've said many times, all praises due the Father.
---chria9396 on 10/3/17


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chria9396 on 9/28/17 Well said and Amen.
---josef on 9/28/17


Not "our" works per se, but rather works prepared by God, as the believer is also prepared. He works within to will and to do, and believers are "his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Eph 2:8-10

It is significant that God ordained/prepared the works before.

Interesting that the verse ends with "that we should walk in them" rather than we should do them.

We cannot please God by OUR works, any, all good things, are of Him, not ourselves
---chria9396 on 9/28/17


This is the aim and result of knowing God's will. God wants His children to walk worthy, to be a credit to Christ, to live in conformity with our union with Christ, and purpose for our lives. Our lives should be Christ-centered unto all pleaseing [not pleaseing everybody], but pleaseing God. Fruit-bearers-right relationship with Christ [discipleship]. Increaeing in the knowledge of God- The sphere where spiritual growth takes place-and meane of that spiritual growth [2 Peter 3:18].
---catherine on 4/4/08


Amen and Amen. We are created to do works to bring Glory to GOD and none to ourselves.
---Samuel on 4/4/08


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Everybody wants you to OBEY them, so, of course God EXPECTS you to obey Him when He says something. He also EXPECTS that many people will end up getting divorced (He allows it).

But if you care about His likes and dislikes (instead of what simply "PLEASES" Him), you might find "works" to be INSUFFICIENT for a truly INTIMATE relationship with Him (and you certainly don't want to lay another FOUNDATION for salvation (Hebrews 6:1).
---greg on 4/4/08


Doesn't it please the Lord when His children obey Him? Does that mean we are saved by works? NO. Just that we, as His beloved children, should seek to please our Father in what we do while we tarry.
---Madison1101 on 4/4/08


Two or three witnesses shall establish every matter. Faith without works is dead just as works without faith is dead. The good works manifest the faith as a second witness at the throne of God.
Frank
---Frank on 5/31/07


Pleasing? Yes, certainly.

Earn his favour? Contribute to our salvation. No, no, no a thousand times no.
---Bruce5656 on 5/30/07


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I think it makes our Father happy when we do things He would do by our actions. No they are not required to "earn" salvation but that saying about the apple does not fall far from the tree can be used even with our Heavenly Father. My kids R my kids DNA, legal that can never change but it makes me happy when they do the right thing or good things, it is not a requirment for them to be my children that is already theirs by birth a gift of life- but it shows me they have listened by their actions.
---Jeanne on 11/25/06


Tony, it was James (2:26) who wrote that, but you're correct in your comments. We definitely please the Lord through our works, but not just the random works that we choose to do, but by those mandated by His will. In Matthew 7:21-27, Jesus admonishes us to not only hear His words, but to do the will of the Father. Not understanding this gets a lot of people in trouble who believe that they can just believe in God and be a good person. If we don't do His will, we're in trouble.
---AlwaysOn on 11/24/06


i don't know if that verse means that but didn't Paul write that faith without works is dead. wash the inside of the cup and the outside will be clean also. that means whatever you are like on the inside that will come out in your actions. you can judge a tree by it's fruit. every tree that does not produce fruit will be chopped down and thrown into the fire
---tony on 11/23/06


I most certainly hope so! God gave us emotions so He has them too. There are many who say nothing you do can please God.

God was pleased with Abraham because he was so humble, and he entertained strangers.
I often wonder what Abraham did that was humble. My own father use to eat the crust of bread because we kids didn't want to. He wore shoes with holes, during a war, so we kids could have new shoes with ration coupons.
---Virginia on 11/20/06


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I think God is happy when we do good things and sad when we choose to do bad. So yes I think doing good works pleases him. No I don't think it grants us salvation. Maybe we will get a fluffier pillow in the mansion... I'm teasing.
---grace3869 on 11/19/06


(Philipp.2:13)(Eph.2:10)(Rev.22:12). God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/19/06


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