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Disobedient Sinner In Heaven

Would God accept a sinner in heaven who is disobedient to His 10 commandments? Scriptures only for responses.

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---Kenneth_Price on 9/16/07

Lisa,the topic of this blog is"Would God accept a sinner in heaven who is disobedient to His 10 commandments? Scriptures only for responses." So I quoted scriptures from the KJV of the Holy Bible. What did you quote? Your own opinion,which is not based on the Bible. Here is another quote: "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? GOD FORBID. How shall we, that are DEAD TO SIN, live any longer therein?" Romans 6:1,2 Grace does not mean we disobey the 10CC
---Gina on 12/31/06

Lisa, my religion is of the HOLY BIBLE, without the devils interpretation applied, which says "we can all be sinners,go ahead and sin". The carnal heart loves to hear that,because then it can go ahead& sin,& then when people point out that sin should be put away from the life of the Christian, from Bible,it says "you would have us back under the law of OT,your religion is one of works"."Do we then make void the law through faith? GOD FORBID, yea, we establish the law" Rom3:31
---Gina on 12/31/06

Lisa "Only the grace of God saves." I agree Lisa. But do you sin, now that you are a Christian, or do you obey the 10CC? Do you kill, lest you be found to under the law, and frustrating the grace of God? I doubt it. Instead, out of Love for Jesus, you obey Him. This should be all 10CC, not just 9. If we love God, we keep the first 4, if we love our neighbor, we keep the last 6. Matt 22:36-40.
---Gina on 12/31/06

Mark 2:17: "When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them,
They that are whole have no need of the physician,
but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous,
but sinners to repentance."

What that verse means to me is that Jesus was
aknowledging that there were some already in
God's Graces (the righteous). Is it too much of
a mouthful to say that God himself through the
Prophets accomplished zero before Jesus came?
I say it is much too much.
---Nana on 12/31/06

Gina, you would also have every believer come under the law, as the Old Testament people were. Obedience and works were the means for the Old Testament people. Yet the law never saved anyone. Only the grace of God saves. What the Old Testament could not accomplish, Christ accomplishes through faith in His sacrafice and resurrection. Your theology is of Islam, Mormans, Jehovah Witnesses, a salvation of works.
---lisa on 12/30/06

"Blessed are they that DO his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers (break 1st commandment); and whoremongers (break 7th); and murderers (break 6th); and idolaters (break 2nd) and whoseover loveth and maketh a lie (break 9th). Rev 22:14,15 Commandment keepers are the saved, commandment breakers are the lost.
---Gina on 12/30/06

"Whoseover committeth sin transgresseth also the law; for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know he was manisfested to take away our sins, and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth NOT; whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him" 1John 3:4-6
---Gina on 12/30/06

"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgresser of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty" James 2:10-12 / Thou shalt not commit adultery,and Thou shalt not kill are a part of what law? The 10 commandments.
---Gina on 12/30/06

"He that overcometh shall inherit all things,and I will be his God,and he hall be my son(same words used in Hebrews 8:10 where God in the new covenant writes the law upon our minds/hearts)but the fearful,and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers (break 6th),and whoremongers (break 7th)and sorcerers(break 1st)and all liars (break 9th) shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimestone;which is the second death" Rev21:7,8 Commandment breakers burn in the lake of fire
---Gina on 12/30/06

"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame,and am sat down with my Father in his throne" Revelation 3:21. To overcome, what does that mean? To overcome sin in our lives. "He that overcometh shall enherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be my son" Rev 21:7 (next verse lists commandment breakers burning in the lake of fire)
---Gina on 12/30/06

"But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother, be a fornicator (break 7th commandment), or covetous (break 10th), or an idolater (break 2nd), or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner, with such an one no not to eat" 1Corin.5:11 What does this say, if a Christian brother actually be a commandment breaker, do not keep company with him (have nothing to do with him), because he is actually a SINNER, and not a Christian
---Gina on 12/30/06

Lisa #3
The "anthropomorphisms" and that God,
"His action as seen from the human view-point appears
to be like that of a man who repents.", I do not believe
that it just appears but rather that it is as such. Recently
a brother told me that I was trying to humanise God. My
repply was for him to go and take that issue with Jesus
who taught me that God is my Father.
---Nana on 12/30/06

Lisa #4
In Exodus 32:9-14 we see a different situation from that
of the verses you mentioned. In here Moses himself who
communicated with God, asked God to reconsider his
wrath waxing hot and he does. In Saul's and Balak's case
they wanted their Holy Man of God to in one case go
straight against God's will and in the other to procure God's
favor after it was lost on account of disobedience.
---Nana on 12/30/06

Lisa #5
God is very much conditioned by our actions as shown in
Numbers 32:13: "And the LORD's anger was kindled
against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness
forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the
sight of the LORD, was consumed."
Numbers 32:14: "And, behold, ye are risen up in your fathers'
stead, an increase of sinful men, to augment yet the fierce
anger of the LORD toward Israel."
---Nana on 12/30/06

Lisa #6
Numbers 32:15: "For if ye turn away from after him, he will
yet again leave them in the wilderness; and ye shall destroy
all this people."
---Nana on 12/30/06

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Balaam to Balak: Balak asked Balaam to curse Jacob
and Israel and go against God's will.
In Numbers 23:19; Balaam was stating to Balak that
God had passed judgement and that it was non nego-
Samuel to Saul:
1 Samuel 15:29; again here, in verse 27 Saul tore the
mantle of Samuel while insisting he make a show of
approval "before the elders of my people".
---Nana on 12/30/06

Lisa #2
In those verses Balaam and Samuel are describing God
and his authority to wrongdoers. Both Balak and Saul
wanted an outcome that was against God's judgement.
The above mentioned verses are not the very words
of God but:
Samuel 15:11 is a statement by God.
Jeremiah 18:8 were also the words of God.
The same goes for Genesis 8:21.
---Nana on 12/30/06

Romans9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
---ShawnM.T on 12/29/06

Thank you Nana for your response. It only shows you are with it in Scripture and have a love for learning about God, that is wonderful. Let me explain what I am talking about. I will put this down as best as I can. First of all God is "Omniscience" He is all knowing. That never changes. God decrees or actions are not succeessively formed as an emergency arises, but are all parts of one all comprehending plan. We should never think of Him suddenly making a plan or doing something
---lisa on 12/29/06

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2. which He had not thought of before. The very fact that Scripture often speaks of one purpose of God as dependent on the outcome of another or on the actions of men, is no objection against what I am going to explain. The Scripture are written in everyday language of men, and they often describe an act or a thing as it appears to be, rather than as it really is. Here is an example, a passage speaks of "the four corners of the Earth" Ps. 104:5, and In Is. 11:12,
---lisa on 12/29/06

3. and of "the foundations of the Earth" yet no one understands this (I hope) this to mean that the earh is square or that it actually has a foundation as a house. Or the sun rising and setting, when we know that the sun does not move but the earth does. Likewise, when Scripture speak of God repenting, for instance, no one, (again I hope) with proper ideas of God underrstands it to mean that He sees He has pursued a wrong course and changes His mind. It simply means that His action as seen from
---lisa on 12/29/06

4. the human view-point appears to be like that of a man who repents. In other places the Scriptures speak of the hands, or arms, or eyes of God. These are what are known as "anthropomorphisms," instances in which God is referred to as if He were a man. When the word "repent" for instance, is used in its strict sense God is said never to repent:God is not a man, that He should lie, Neither the Son of man, that He should repent," Nu.23:19, and again
---lisa on 12/29/06

5. "The Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent; for He is not a man, that He should repent," 1 Sam. 15:29. God occasionally changes His predicted actions so that He remains consistent in His character. But this does not mean He didn't know what you were going to do but that to human understanding God is consistent with His character of love and righteousness. In our view, He change but in God's He already knew His next action.
---lisa on 12/29/06

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6. Nana, when the word "if" is added to the passage, it is a clause used by God to show man through His understanding that He will change His actions as He did with Nineveh. Jeremiah 18:7-10 deals with what I have put down. It is an unstated condition when the word "if" is used in the passage. But since it is Him who is writing and already knew the actions of those He spoke of, and knows ours too, nothing is ever a surprise to Him, since He already see's all even our next actions.
---lisa on 12/29/06

7. I believe God uses this words to convict the unbelievers to change and through the power of the Holy Spirit He does complete what He wants to complete in the process of salvation. That to me is what I believe Nana. Thank you for answering and with a kind response. Peace
---lisa on 12/29/06

"Would God accept a sinner in heaven who is disobedient to His 10 commandments?"-billy

We aren't saved by keeping the Old Covenant laws.
---Kay on 12/29/06

Your blog #1 and #2 to Eloy are beautiful.
On #3 to Eloy you are describing a God that I
see not in scriptures. Consider these:
I Samuel 15:11: "It repenteth me that I have
set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back
from following me, and hath not performed my
commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he
cried unto the LORD all night."
Exodus 32:9-14; a must read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
---Nana on 12/28/06

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Jeremiah 18:8: "If that nation, against whom
I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I
will repent of the evil that I thought to do
unto them."
Genesis 8:21: "And the LORD smelled a sweet
savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will
not again curse the ground any more for man's
sake; for the imagination of man's heart is
evil from his youth; neither will I again
smite any more every thing living, as I have done."
---Nana on 12/28/06

God very well get dissapointed at
us if we turn from him. If anyone on this planet
has ever had the 1 and only knowledge of God, that
has to be our very own Jesus the Christ. So he would
know if what you say about the "conclusion" is true.
Then, if what you describe is the way it is; why would
Jesus expressed as in Matthew 11:20: "Then began he to
upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works
were done, because they repented not:"????
---Nana on 12/28/06

Eloy, God commands obedience. And a true believer will be obedient not because he has to but because he wants to be a good disciple. God has implanted in our hearts the love of Christ, and we love the Lord so much that we don't want to fail Him. But it is because of Christ living in us that we feel that way, not because we have to, but because we want to. I live each day wanting to please God. That I don't many times is because I do fail, and I pick myself up and get back to carrying my cross.
---lisa on 12/27/06

2. The hard work I do in studying, and waking up at 3:30 am to begin studying and the teaching and the writing of articles, and the work I do at church is because God is in my life and He motives me, and influneces me and convicts me when I do wrong or when I forget about someone that I should have helped and didn't and it is all because of Him. If I was not a Christian I would be doing something completely forign from God.
---lisa on 12/27/06

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3. I do believe God does it all. There is no way I can disappoint God since He already knows what I am going to do. He already knows my thoughts. He already knows what I will do tomorrow. He is a Sovereign God and is not surprise by what you say or what I say. In His plan, He already has the conclusion of how this will end and not you or me can change that plan. If we could then He would be learning something each day and He would not be God.
---lisa on 12/27/06

.lisa, God Commands, "Work", therefore to obey his Command is Salvation and to disobey is death. So eventhough God Commands us to Work, if one just sits back and does nothing while thinking that God does it all, then that one has clearly disobeyed him and has completely missed out on Salvation. But you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 12/26/06

It is not the works that gains the Lords approval but the position of the heart, No one ever comes before the lord spotless, it's about how we try and live without grieving the holy spitit within.The lord enables us to live according to his commandments, its the desire to want to that makes it possible.According to scripture if you have asked Jesus into your heart and live sinless to the best you can he forgives.No one knows for certain ever, unless they have already met our savior,choose life.
---jojo on 12/26/06

Eloy, You impose following laws to be saved. Yet you post passages that our own righteousness will not get us in heaven. Listen to what you are saying before posting. What you impose on all is that works will get you in the kingdom of God. The same teachings of Islam, Jehovah Witnesses, and Mormons. In Islam, none have a guarantee of their salvation. Their god is not a God of grace. When they kill someone for their faith, they believe their works will guarantee a place in paradise.
---lisa on 12/26/06

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2. Jhonny is correct, to whom do you yeld to? Law or Christ. You see Eloy, Islam has no Savior. Mohammad is rarely called Savior. He is said to have brought God's laws to men, and they by keeping those laws, must satisfy God's requirements and win His approval. Since many Muslims realize that they fall short of Koranic standards they recite extra prayers in addition to those required for each day, they make gifts to charity, and go on pilgrimages not only to Mecca, but also to other sacred shrines,
---lisa on 12/26/06

3. in order to gain Merit, which is what you are saying. They do this in order to balance their account with God. But since God does not make known how they accounts of His stand, a Muslim facing death does not know whether he is to go to paradise or to hell. After all, the decision is made by the arbitrary will of God, and no one can predict what that decision will be. And so the Muslim lives and dies, not sure of his final salvation. In biblical Christianity, forgiveness
---lisa on 12/26/06

4. is based upon the death of Christ on the cross as a past action. Christ died for our sins so that once a person receives Christ as his or her Savior, all of his sins are forgiven and each one is guaranteed a place in heaven (John 5:24; 6:47; 1 Peter 1:3-5; 1 John 5:13). What you are saying is that we believe as Islam does, that our salvation stand on a balance of works, just as they do. In the day of judgement for the Muslims they whose balances shall be heavy with good works,
---lisa on 12/26/06

5. shall be happy, but they whose balances shall be light, are those who shall lose their souls, and shall remain in hell forever. That is what the Koran teaches, and you want us to follow the same course with what you impose on the Christian believer. A salvation of works, and Christ's death is no value at all. The difference in both is the death of Christ for our sins. Without that death it is all by works as they believe.
---lisa on 12/26/06

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Right. What doesn't stand is the top down corporate religous tyranny that controls by interpretation and demands of obedience to them. They hold the truth in unrighteousness as they use it for captious purposes. That is you are their slave, being held by the obedience to the burdens they impose. To whom do you yield?
---jhonny on 12/24/06

.emcee, Please read Matthew 5:21,22,27,28,31-48; and John 13:34,35. God's Command is GO and DO THE WORKS OF CHRIST. What are the Commands of Christ, you may ask. They are: love God completely, love your neighbor as yourself, love your enemies, share your faith, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the shut-ins and prisoners and the infirmed, and be a father to the fatherless, a friend to the friendless, a helper to the helpless.
Please read Matthew 7:17-27; 25:34-46.
---Eloy on 12/24/06

.emcee, many who have followed the O.T. 10, are currently in hell, and many more who presently choose to follow them rather than follow Christ's Commands will also go to hell.
---Eloy on 12/24/06

Eloy::"for the Lords "New Testament commandments" are currently in Force"Really? could you please enumerate them, for the benefit Of this forum & Me.As far as I know The Fathers commandments still stand ie His 10.
---Emcee on 12/23/06

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Wayne Thanks for all the scriptures.
---jhonny on 12/23/06

man,"I came not to undo the law, but to fulfill. One mandate or one point will not fail from the law, until all happen. Except your righteousness be more plenteous then of teachers and of ministers, you all will not enter into the kingdom of heaven." Mt.5:17,18,20. The O.T. Levitical-Mosaic Law of B.C. is not the same as the N.T. Judaic-Messianic Law of A.D. See John 13:34,35. Jesus repeatedly says, You all have heard from the old law...But I say to you...Please read Matthew 5:21,22,27,28,31-48.
---Eloy on 12/23/06

If that is the case Eloy, as you have stated, why do you put the Christian back under the law? Why do you teach that works is the way of salvation? The Old Testament believers were under the law of obedience and works, of the law. Now you say we are under a New covenant, and not under the Law. Do you not see your mistake Eloy? Does lightning have to hit you, and not a small light? I have been reading all of your post on all subjects and you contradict your answers.
---lisa on 12/23/06

2. The Old testment people were under the law of works and obedience to show their sin, not to save them. They were also saved by faith. Works never saved anyone. I love you Eloy and I don't think for a minute you are like the guys that don't believe in Scripture that anwser here on line. You are different in that you do show that you love the Lord and want to teach about God while some of the others are here try to distroy the faith in a believer.
---lisa on 12/23/06

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3. We all have weaknesses in our believes but we all have faith in Christ. I just want you to think about some answers given to you, and digest them and check for yourself with Scripture. I want to wish you a Merry Christmas and hope that God enriches you and keeps you save through this time that we go through which many times is a sad time for many who have lost a love one. Take care my brother
---lisa on 12/23/06

Eloy, if you study your bible well, it will tell you that God says: "Dont think that I came to destroy the Laws n the Prophets, but to fulfil right to the end"Read also Psalm89:34 and many others.Where is text what says only New Test valid today? I bet your wrong.
---man on 12/23/06

God accepts all sinners who have been converted to righteousness. None who rely on the abolished Old Testament commandments for acceptance from God will find it, for the Lord's New Testament Commandments are currently inforce.
---Eloy on 12/22/06

Jesus was crucified as a criminal. He told one of the robbers that was crucified with him you will be with me in paradise today.
---tonne on 12/21/06

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If a Christian commits a sin willfully and knows he sinned and continues to commit sins without repentance you can bet he isn't going to heaven. (Galations 2:17)(Galations 5:19-21)(Hebrews 10:26-31)(Romans 2:12)(I Corinthians 15:34)(I John 5:18)
---Matthew on 12/2/06

Billy, if you scroll down on other blogs on OSAS you will read all about it. Example read 1Cor15:51,52,53,54 and a blogger gave us these texts which explains how we be changed etc. Why change? Do read it
---bob on 11/30/06

Thank you Debbie, for your answers. You put them so well. I think many believe that everything is change at the moment of salvation. Spiritually we belong to God, have a promise, a hope, the imputeness of righteousness from Christ, yet we are becoming more like Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit during our sanctification through faith in Christ, and not anymore on ourselves.
---lisa on 11/30/06

If I John 3:9 means willful sin alone and not sin unknown or sin thought to be ok because of deception then wouldn't it mean a Christian will stop willfully sinning?
---Matthew on 11/30/06

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Eloy, Gal3:23 But b4 faith came, we were kept under the law,(Moses Law) shut up unto the faith which should afterwards b revealed.V24Where4 the law was our schoolmaster 2 bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith V25But after that faith is come, we are no loonger under a schoolmaster(Moses Law)Jesus then bcame the Sacrificial Lamb of God. Nothing 2 do with the 10Cs.Jesus is the Law and the Word of God.
---bob on 11/30/06

Jesus can no more separate Himself from us then Eve could have separated herself from Adam. Eve was actually taken out of Adam, not created separately. We are bone of His Bone and Flesh of His flesh. When we come to understand this we will know we are ONE with Jesus Christ, One NEW MAN, created In Christ Jesus. There's nothing we can do to add/subtract.
Our old has passing away,crucified with Christ at Calvary,and ALL things become New.

*Live in the Light of that Truth.
---kathr4453 on 11/29/06

#1 Eloy, When we were born again, Christ was born in our heart in the form of new creation life, totally seperated from our old sinful nature. This New Creation life is pure, holy and completely sinless. When we sin in the flesh, the sin stays in the flesh; it doesn't touch that New Creation life which is Jesus. Jesus would not abort Himself which is what it would be if He withdrew His life from us.
---Debbie on 11/29/06

#2 You have to realize that the New Creation nature and the old sinful nature reside in this same earthen vessel at the same time, yet they are totally separate. How else can you explain I John 3:9?
---Debbie on 11/29/06

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There will not be any kind of sinner in heaven for the Bible says no sin shall enter there. Gentiles aren't under the 10 Commandments but under the Law of Love which contains all Commandments wrapped into two. Matthew 12:33 Love neighbor as self and God with all heart,soul,mind, strength,all within us,in other words. Also Acts 15:29 abstain from meat offered to idols,blood,things stangled,from fornication from which if you keep yourselves ye do well. Thats what is required of Gentiles, which we are.
---Darlene_1 on 11/27/06

.debbie, Jesus does not stay in any heart which backslides: hell is being filled every day with backsliders who serve sin rather than Christ; for if you die with sin you go to hell, not heaven.
---Eloy on 11/27/06

There are no sinners or unbelievers in Heaven. Are there believers who have sinned in Heaven, Yes. Being disobedient of the 10 commandments will not send you to hell, only rejection of Christ will do that. Once you have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, you are bound for Heaven. If you sin, and do not ask forgiveness you will lose rewards and fellowship. Once Jesus Christ has taken up residency in your heart, He is there to stay, God the Father cannot reject His Son and Christ can't reject Himself.
---Debbie on 11/25/06

1 Corinthians 6:9-11, John 3:3-21, 1 John 1:5-10, 2:1-11, & 3:1-5. Jeremaih 31:31-34, Hebrews 8:6-13, Ezekiel 18:20-30.
---Wayne87 on 11/25/06

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Gal.5:13-26. There are many examples especially if you read the scriptures of Godly people who are like the rest of us today and are sinners. There is none perfect born of man, no not one! We must rely on the salvation of Jesus to pardon us for our sinful nature and forgive our sins. As Jesus said, Go your way and sin no more. IF we do our part for Him, Jesus will do His for us.
---mikefl on 11/24/06

Sinners obey the 10 commandments and still go to hell. "For there is truly a disannulling of the Commandment going before, for the weakness and unprofitableness of it. For the Law perfected nothing, but a bringing in of a better hope by which we draw near to God. By so much security, Jesus indeed parent of a better Testament. Then said he, Here I come to do your will, O God. He takes away the first, that he may establish the second." Hebrews 7:18,19,22; 10:9.
---Eloy on 11/24/06

it never ceases to amaze me how man thinks he can get over on God. Righteousness and perfection are a whole lot more then just ten points in the O.T. The fact is, you can keep the 10 commandments perfectly and still go straight to hell. You want to do it right, obey the commandments of Christ, which does not consist of a mere list of rules and regulations to obey, but rather a sacrifice of your whole life for his, and nothing less. Please read Matthew 5:20; Luke 14:25-35; 18:9-30.
---Eloy on 11/24/06

"I do not set aside the grace of God: for if through Law righteousness, then Christ died in vain. Therefore the Law was our tutor till Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a tutor. But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forward his Son, made of a woman, made under the Law, to redeem them that were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption of sons." Galatians 2:21; 3:24,25; 4:4,5.
---Eloy on 11/24/06

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Only "repentant sinners" , i.e., "born again believers" are accepted into Heaven. (1 Cor. 6:9-11)
---Leon on 11/24/06

I want to go on record as agreeing with the answer given by---Pharisee
---mima on 11/24/06

Heb.11 gives us a rundown of some of God's great people of faith. Just look at them and see if you can find one that you could say was obedient to all 10. Most of them wouldn't be allowed to be baptized or be a member or have communion in many of our churches today.Could this be why we are instructed to live by the Spirit and not by the letter? It was good for the lady caught in adultery that Jesus went by the spirit and not by the letter.
---john on 11/24/06

Put simply the answer to the chagrin of the self righteous is yes.

Have you not read that "all have sinned" it's also written in the Bible "if we say we have no sin..."

The problem of man's sinfulness is not destroyed by the works of any common man, but instead by the works of a solitary man who alone claimed equality with God.

HIS desire is restoration not destruction, and if restoration has begun by his spirit it will also be finished BY HIS SPIRIT - not ours.
---Pharisee on 11/24/06

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David - Adulterer, murderer....and also recorded in the same book as a man after God's heart.

If the true intent of the heart, deep down loving what God loves is the example why do so many seek justification based on what they've done?

Don't you know the it's the same (what you've done) that condemns you?

There is only one means of justification and Jesus stated it thusly: "you must be born again." That as we see in King David's case is different then perfect subjection.
---Pharisee on 11/24/06

It is not the ten commandments and keeping them that gets anybody into heaven. It is only the Cross of Christ and the death that Jesus died there for sin that gets anybody into heaven.
---Helen_5378 on 11/24/06

read Psamls 5:5 and also Psamls 11:5. it says that God hates sinners. we are all sinners but i think it is refering to people who don't repent and continue in their sin.

also remember the verse, he who is forgiven much loves much.

it doesn't matter what a person does they can be forgiven. like it says forgive others so that you are forgiven also. the word forgive means to stop being angry at.
---tony on 11/23/06

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