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Cloned With A Spirit

Human cloning will one day be done and I would not be surprised if it has already happened somewhere, but well hidden. To me this is so wrong and brings to mind that Lucifer tried to go above God and we all know what happened to him. Would a cloned person have a spirit and soul?

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 ---carol on 1/6/07
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I would say "most definitely, yes!"

Cloning is as old as man. All identical twins are clones. One fertilized egg somehow splits in two early on.

If the spirit enters at the moment of fertilization, twins share a single soul (or one has one and the other doesn't). Most Christians would reject both these alternatives.

I am sure cloned babies have souls just as do twins, and test tube babies, and children born of unwed mothers or rape or incest - God is no respector of persons.
---StrongAxe on 12/17/07

God makes clones all the time--they're called identical twins.

Do identical twins have souls? The answer to that is the answer to your question.
---Nancy on 12/16/07

J. Nonymous, I am with you all the way on this one! By virtue of being human every human is made in God's image.
---InimicusStultitiae on 12/14/07

catherine: if they have no soul, should we kill them? Would you preach to a man without a soul?

What is the Bible basis for your belief? There is some science involved with making a baby you know. Seed + Egg = Baby.

Not to say I agree with cloning. I think its crazy. But where is your scriptural basis?
---j._nonymous on 12/14/07

The answer is NO. Only God gives us a Spirit and a soul. Some believes both are same.
---catherine on 12/14/07

You have asked a good question I've not thought much about, but off the top of my head, I would say no.
---Jack on 12/14/07

I guess I just think that if a life is formed, it is of God. So even if it is from cloning, is it not still a creation of God?
---bobbie on 2/21/07

Cloning is not creation. It is duplication.
We still have no understanding of what makes life except for Ge 2:7 "And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." No man has done this.

On another note, God does hold animals accountable for the sheding of human blood. Ge 9:5 And surely your blood, [the blood] of your lives, will I require; At the hand of every beast will I require it....
---Edmond on 1/12/07

Carol, I would resist the urge to believe that if God allows it it must be good. God allowed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah but proved they were not good by destoying them.
---faye4464 on 1/11/07

And, to answer the posted question. If human cloning is successful, then, of course, any person coming from that process would have a spirit & soul. Bottom line, regarless of what "scientist" try to say, God is still the author of life. If God doesn't allow for it in His plan, it will not happen. He is Sovereign - even over cloning - or He is not God.
---daphn8897 on 1/11/07

1st cliff, "Sorry" you are wrong. :o) Yes, we are created beings, human, but also spirit - we have a beginning, but no end (whether in heaven or hell for the duration). We are held accountable for our actions by God, while other "created" beings... dogs, cats, cows... are not.
---daphn8897 on 1/11/07

The spirit is the spark of life motivating you, power in you. It does not die but goes back to God. Ecclessiastea-12:7. It returns to the true God who gave it.

All flesh is green grass - -- -- --- The blossom has withered, because the spirit of God has blown upon it. --- --- --. The words of God is to time indefinite. Isiah-40:6-8
---mendy on 1/11/07

Know what is spirit and soul. Look before you leap. We are not to be dogs or pigs or cows. we are special beings, for we can learn lessons, to decifer things. Not to be acting like animals as what ever comes to the mind we take it as something factual. But we are to sieve or strain things. Will you give your child stones to eat? You may have the well thinking in that. Do apply it in other aspects of live also.
---mendy on 1/11/07

Daphn; Sorry but men/women are not spirits,but human creatures.We do not "have" a soul but we "are" souls,so are animals.By being in God's immage we have a measure of His attributes,love,wisdom,justice and power, (animals do not) Look up the word spirit in the concordance you will see it is (ruach Heb,neuma Gr.) meaning breath,wind,air!
---1st_cliff on 1/10/07

1st cliff, Actually, man/woman is a spirit, has a soul, and lives in a body. Scripture refers to animals having souls, but not to them being spirits. We are created in God's image - He is spirit not man/flesh. There is a difference between the soul & spirit.
---daphn8897 on 1/10/07

If Emily Litella were here, I'm sure she'd have something to say on the subject:

What's all the talk I hear about humans clowning? This is nothing new! Humans, like the little monkeys, have been clowning around for thousands of years already...

Kidding aside, hear this . Man is monkeying with things we shouldn't dare to. Who knows what new future pandemics are on the horizon as a result of wayward experiments with nature by all of the Dr. Moreaus out there?
---Leon on 1/8/07

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I'm with Leon 100%.
I also believe that by the time they let us in on the facts, the products have already been created and disbursed. The future is getting bleaker by the day. Just think our great grandchildren may end up marrying cloned people.Only God can save us from this mess.
Whats wrong with good old reproduction?
---lynet on 1/7/07

m.p.a is correct, man will never be able to give life because he cannot delegate sprirt.
---Jacques on 1/7/07

Herb; "child has soul" nuhuh, You me and every man-jack on earth "ARE" souls we do not "have" a soul Adam "became" a living soul,not "given "one! Right? It's a simple concept but amazing how few "get it"
---1st_cliff on 1/7/07

A cloned person might have a soul (mind, will, emotions), but would NOT have a spirit. A spirit is God's breath, and ONLY God can create that.
---Leslie on 1/7/07

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I won't be serving any cloned burgers at my cafe.

The cowboys here wouldn't stand for it. They say they're identical under the microscope. But I'm glad I live where I can grow my own, no clone.
---Rural_Cafe on 1/7/07

Interesting deduction Rev. Herb; but, I'm still skeptical. :)
---Leon on 1/7/07

Spirit as life, is breath & animation, soul is conscious awareness of life, ones ability to think. If the cloned person can move on their own & think for themselves, than the answer to the question is yes, & only The Father can give life or awareness. It would be nice if the clones cells & tissue would regenerate without life or consciousness. Man could have replacements for lost body parts that would consist of ones own DNA. However regeneration is impossible without life & life is precious to the Giver.
---joseph on 1/7/07

First you must understand cloning. They take parts of you (DNA) and place in egg. then egg is placed in woman, woman has baby, child is born. Child is person, child has soul.
---Rev_Herb on 1/7/07

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Carol: You've asked a very good question. Frankly, I'm stumped & reluctant to respond other than to say I don't know. I pray God will give us an answer to this extremely important question.

Also, I'm very concerned about the FDA's recent approval of cloned cattle for future consumption by the American public. I'd prefer the FDA test (eat) the beef for about 10 years before deeming it fit for our consumption. Let's see what affect it may have on their "in-house" test subjects.
---Leon on 1/7/07

Man will NEVER be able to make a living human being from the dust of the ground. Only God can do that. All clones will be made using what is already there, i.e. the genetic information etc. that is God given. Man is nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is and will ALWAYS depend on God and will have to use what God has given. A clone will still be made from God given 'ingredients' and on that basis I believe God would not leave that being soul-less. BUT, I still don't think it should be done.
---m.p.a. on 1/7/07

I do not believe that anybody can clone either animals or human beings. My Bible clearly tells me that God is the sole Creator of everything and everyone.
---Helen_5378 on 1/6/07

Carol; The question is not that complicated.A sheep (dolly)was cloned and as Gen.#1 says animals are also souls(nephesh) (Strong's concordance) a soul is a living sentient creature, who also when alive have breath (ruach) spirit! Some life-forms (amoeba) procreate by dividing themselves to become two!
---1st_cliff on 1/6/07

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That is a good question. I think that God can use bad things and turn them to good. So I think that if this person is really human, needs to breathe, eat, drink and sleep and bleeds etc. etc. etc. Then God would give them a spirit and a soul. Man can't manufacture that - but it's not the clone's fault that man made him.
---grace3869 on 1/6/07

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