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Tithe Or Not To Tithe

Tithing & money has been a debate for a long time. Why do you tithe? Why don't you tithe? Why do you believe what you believe?

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If you study the Hebrew and Greek definitions, you will find the following:
ABRAHAMS TITHE he gave the tithe. This is shown in Genesis 14:20 and confirmed in Hebrews 7:2,4. The LEVITICAL TITHE is referenced in Hebrews 7:9 and the Greek definition there is pay, not give. JACOBS VOW TO TITHE he vowed to give a tithe. This is shown by the Hebrew defintion in Genesis 28:22. Abraham and Jacob GAVE while the Israelites PAID tithe. This is verified in Matthew 23:23 where pay tithe is used from the Greek definition. Therefore, anyone who says that Abrahams tithe, or Jacobs vow to tithe, is still valid in the New Testament is really bringing free-will giving into the New Testament which is exactly what the New Testament teaches.
---Gary on 6/1/09

>Being a former accountant and tax auditor, I knew something was wrong when I heard a pastor say you tithe on your "gross income."

Too technical. Think of what the lay person would think it means.
---dconklin on 6/1/09

To update one of my previous blogs: Regarding the pastor I had a meeting with that was praying for guidance on tithing. I attended that church yesterday. Months ago that pastor, at offering time, would talk about the tithe belonging to God, robbing God, and that God required the tithe. Yesterday, he talked about giving from the heart, not under compulsion, and then talked about tithing FROM THE HEART, not under compulsion. So he essentially has changed teaching that the tithe belongs to God and is required to voluntary giving of ten percent from the heart.
---Gary on 6/1/09

AlwaysOn - For the wage/salary earner, Gross Income means total compensation for services rendered INCLUDING all fringe benefits. Therefore, you have to add in whatever the employer pays for your medical insurance, moving expenses, retirement benefits, group-term life insurance purchased for the employee by the employer, etc. But Gross Income ALSO includes such items as Income from Discharge of Indebtedness. Therefore, anyone who had their home reposessed would include the amount of debt that was cancelled. For those in business, Gross Income means income before any business expenses. So you could have a hugh gross income but a net loss.
---Gary on 6/1/09

Gary, I've always understood gross income to mean before taxes are subtracted. Is this incorrect?
---AlwaysOn on 5/31/09

Gary, That's great info! It's amazing how many christians and pastors don't think for themselves and when questioned on this topic just repeat what they have been taught and don't study the scriptures and see what God's word actually says!
---kent on 5/31/09

Being a former accountant and tax auditor, I knew something was wrong when I heard a pastor say you tithe on your "gross income." The term gross income is an accounting term that was codified into Title 26, Subtitle A, Chapter 1, Subchapter B, Part 1, Section 61 of the Federal Law many years ago. Very few, other than accountants, actually know the definition of this term. Yet church leaders, not accountants, introduced this term that appears nowhere in the Bible, and teach it as though it were part of God's word. Those who understand the definition of "gross income" would NEVER tell you to tithe on it.
---Gary on 5/31/09

Some interesting facts regarding the history of tithing in the United States. Roger Williams founded the Baptist Church in the 1600's in the US and said there would be NO tithing in the Baptist church. In 1870, because more money was needed for missionary projects, the leaders decided to teach tithing. The SDA changed their method of tithing two or three times before 1900 and tithing on income was finally chosen by VOTE of the council members because it would bring in 2.6 times as much money. The Presbyterian church appointed 9 members to a committee to come up with a method of tithing in 1913. Many denominations do NOT tithe because they recognize it is not valid in the NT.
---Gary on 5/31/09

Kent - You are partially correct. There are pastors who know tithing is no longer valid but teach it anyway because they are afraid they won't bring in enough money to run their church. LACK OF FAITH, as you said. I know this is true because already one pastor has admitted it to me. But there are others who actually believe they are correct. They, usually, are merely teaching what they were taught and never really studied the topic for themselves. I've already shown one pastor his error and he now teaches giving instead of tithing. Another is now praying for guidance on the topic. A third also now agrees that I am correct. A fourth has refused a meeting with me.
---Gary on 5/30/09

DC, your right. No temple, no rules/ law on tithe.
Did Paul tithe? No
Did Jesus tithe? No
You Can't just take old test. Laws and say they apply to the church. The reason Tithe law is taught is because (the
church) and pastors lack faith that God would supply their
financial needs if people were allowed to give according to
the prompting of the holy spirit!
---kent on 5/30/09

dconklin - Gen. 1:26-28, 2:15 refer to free-will giving. Nowhere is there a command for these so-called tithes. 1 Chron. 29:14 has nothing to do with tithing. Haggai 1:3-11 has nothing to do with tithing. Mal. 3:8-12 is addressed to the priests, not the people. Start reading from Mal. 1:1. 1 Cor. 9:9-14 has to do with giving, not tithing. Matt. 23:23 proves my point that the levitical tithe was PAID, not given, and no where is INCOME mentioned as being tithable. 2 Cor. 8:1-15 has to do with free-will giving. Rom. 15:26, 27 has to do with giving. I truly believe we are morally obligated to be generous givers.
---Gary on 5/29/09

dconklin - you state "Since the Temple was destroyed we are no longer subject to the rules and regulations that pertained to it." True. But show me where GOD gave the Christian Church permission to receive His tithe. Tithes were NOT taken to the temple by the people in the first place. Firstfruits were taken to the temple, and the Levites collected the tithes and took them to their Levitical cities. Then the Levites took the tithe of the tithe to the temple. The only tithe that wound up in the storehouse was the tithe from the Levites, NOT the people. Nehemiah 10:37-38. That proves that Malachi is NOT being addressed to the people.
---Gary on 5/29/09

>Read your Bible to determine more about the Levites. First, a Levite must be from the tribe of Levi. Next, only MALE levites could work in the temple, and only once they reached the age of 18, and they were NOT allowed to work in the temple once they reached the age of 50. Numbers:4-47, 8-24,25.

Since the Temple was destroyed we are no longer subject to the rules and regulations that pertained to it.
---dconklin on 5/29/09

The problem is with the definition of the word "tithe." In Genesis, Abraham GAVE a TITHE, yes. But the Hebrew word that was translated into the word "tithe" strickly means ten percent and has NO relation to God or religion. It is a mathematical term. In the Word of God, God NEVER claimed that tenth to be His. The ONLY tenth God claimed to be His, according to the Bible, was the Levitical tithe which was law. Malachi 3:8-10 relating to robbing God refers ONLY to the laws of tithing, NOT any other type of tithe. OFFERINGS show your love to God. And NO WHERE in the Word did God ever give anyone permission to give His tithe to the Christian Church. To do so would be a sin against God.
---Gary on 5/29/09

>It's not biblical.

21. Stewardship:
We are God's stewards, entrusted by Him w/ time & opportunities, abilities & possessions, & the blessings of the earth & its resources. We are responsible to Him for their proper use. We acknowledge God's ownership by faithful service to Him & our fellow men, & by returning tithes and giving offerings for the proclamation of His gospel & the support & growth of His church. Stewardship is a privilege given to us by God for nurture in love & the victory over selfishness & covetousness. The steward rejoices in the blessings .... (Gen. 1:26-28, 2:15, 1 Chron. 29:14, Haggai 1:3-11, Mal. 3:8-12, 1 Cor. 9:9-14, Matt. 23:23, 2 Cor. 8:1-15, Rom. 15:26, 27.)
---dconklin on 5/29/09

Show me where, in the scriptures, God gave the Christian Church, your pastor, or anyone other than a Levite, permission to receive His tithe. Since God gave His tithe to the Levites, would it be obedient for anyone to give that tithe to someone else? Would that show your love for God? What it really would show is your disobedience. You would be breaking God's command, therefore, you would be sinning. The love of money is the root of all evil. It is obvious satan has done a good job infiltrating the church with the false teaching of tithing. What easier way could satan have entered the church but through the topic of money. STOP THE FALSE TEACHING!
---Gary on 5/29/09

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I will, Nevertheless you well know where to find that particular scripture without me. Prove however to me that Abraham did not pay his tithes to Melchisedek. an act of faith.
Jacob did not prommise to give his tithes if God brought him back safely, (an act of dedication and submittion). Tithes as such are by NO means an act of law, it is an act of faith, submittion and dedication. all that the law of moses ever did was to regulate the manner of giving your tithes as to avoid mallpractices, and to ensure a continual service to the Lord.
---Andy on 5/29/09

Tithes were paid on some Israeli grown vegetables, and some Israeli raised domesticated animals (Leviticus 27:30-32), by Israelites in Israel. Tithes were paid to Levites, Numbers 18:21, 24. Levites paid a tithe to the Priests, Numbers 18:26-28. Tithes were not accepted from some sinners, Deuteronomy 23:18. Tithes were not paid on money owed, Matthew 5:23-24. Tithes were salaries and were approximately equal to the median salary. The second tithe(s), and the several offerings may have exceeded 30%.
Abraham paid Melchizedek a kickback on the additional items that he gained in battle, Genesis 14:20. Jacob-Israel, Genesis 28:22.
p.s. Christians give voluntary offerings with joy.
---Glenn on 5/28/09

Read your Bible to determine more about the Levites. First, a Levite must be from the tribe of Levi. Next, only MALE levites could work in the temple, and only once they reached the age of 18, and they were NOT allowed to work in the temple once they reached the age of 50. Numbers:4-47, 8-24,25.
Don't pick and choose what you will follow. Also, you need to read your Bible regarding tithing - it was NEVER on income. God NEVER required anyone to tithe on INCOME. Tithing was on the miracles of God - crops and animals. Read the history of tithing section on Ellen White's Estate's website and you will see how the Seventh-day Adventists came up with their own tithing plan. It's not biblical. DO YOUR RESEARCH AND STOP THE FALSE TEACHING.
---Gary on 5/28/09

>Do you still pay the temple tax?

No, the Temple doesn't exist anymore.

>Do you keep the 7th day sabbath?


>Do you support your local Levites?

Yes, the tithe goes to pay for the pastors.

>Do you give 10% from your garden?

Yes, that's what tithing is.

>Chose grace or bondage.

The only one's in "bondage" are those who refuse to obey the law of love: love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength and your neighbor as yourself.
---dconklin on 5/28/09

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>Do you still pay the temple tax?

No, it no longer exists

>Do you keep the 7th day sabbath?


>Do you support your local Levites?

That's what the tithe does.

>Do you give 10% from your garden?

That would be part of tithing.

>Chose grace or bondage.

It is because we sin (transgressing God's Law) that we need grace. The Law is only a burdern (bondage) to those who do not want to love God with _all_ their heart, mind and strength and to love their neighbor as themselves.
---djconklin on 5/27/09

Do you still pay the temple tax?
Do you keep the 7th day sabbath?
Do you support your local Levites?
Do you give 10% from your garden?
Chose grace or bondage.
Don't get me wrong, if the holy spirit tells you 2 give 10% then do it. If the holy spirit says 50% then do it. Or 100%.
Just rely on the grace Jesus provided, not some fixed number!
---kent on 5/27/09
And, don't forget the 1/3 of 10% "poor tithe".

R.G. LeTourneau the Christian industrialist gave 90% as a freewill offering and only lived on 10%, but then, he had the millions to do that.
---obewan on 5/27/09

Do you still pay the temple tax?
Do you keep the 7th day sabbath?
Do you support your local Levites?
Do you give 10% from your garden?
Chose grace or bondage.
Don't get me wrong, if the holy spirit tells you 2 give 10% then do it. If the holy spirit says 50% then do it. Or 100%.
Just rely on the grace Jesus provided, not some fixed number!
---kent on 5/27/09

Andy - Jesus DID abolish tithing when he died on the cross. Tithing was part of the Mosaic Law that was "nailed to the cross." Show me in the scriptures where Jesus confirmed to give our tithes in love and mercy. It's not there. The tithing lie started around 1870 and is being perpetuated by many pastors who teach recent traditions rather than the actual scriptures. If you would take the time to read the Bible, you would find that God NEVER required anyone to tithe on anything that man made or earned. Tithing was on the miracles of God UNTIL man decided to change the word and teach a lie. The New Testament teaches generous giving, NOT tithing.
---Gary on 5/26/09

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However tithes where never commanded as such in the new testament, Jesus did by no means abolish tithes. rather he encouraged and confirmed to give our tithes in love and mercy. i myself do not feel like giving tithes, i only take ninety percent of what allready belongs to God, and if the work needs more i am willing to provide, without declaring it to the taxes afterwards...
---Andy on 5/26/09

The (tithe) is not required by new testament.
There is no scripture about Jesus tithing. He did say give to Rome and God but the Old testament
was still in effect

10% is not a good starting point! Paul said we are not compelled!
Paul also said The church and Christians are being put under a curse if we are put under any of the Law and by being put under 1 law we are cursed to keep it all b/c we are not relying on the holy spirit Jesus sent but we are taking the whole law on our lives and are thus cursed.
Most of America is under this curse.
Look at the state of our nation
We are Bankrupt and worship Money and material things
This includes much of the Church! Can anyone rebut this?
---kent on 5/25/09

Tithing is an old testament commandment and was established as the inheritance of the Levitical Priesthood. Do we still worship under the Law or we under Grace? Do we still perform sacrifices and observe feast days?

Under the Grace dispensation we are to be cheerful givers. 2 Cor 9:7 We are to give cheerfully as we have been blessed.

By the way, did the Law ever out do Grace???
---trey on 5/23/09

Michael - No problem. I'm just happy we agree that tithing is not a requirement in the New Testament. As long as one knows they are giving a tenth, or tithing, out of love, or as a free-will gift (or tithe), all is well. Those who think they are being obedient to God by tithing just might be putting themselves under the law. As such, the Bible says they then are required to follow ALL the laws of the book, and their faith shall have no value. My question is, if their faith has no value, and salvation comes by grace through faith, does it affect their salvation? No need to answer - just a thought.
---Gary on 5/23/09

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gary, also to clarify on my end, the corrections were to make your testimony more sure, not in any way to dispute wether to tithe or not. I thought I made that clear on my third post, but apparently not, and for that I must apologize.
I believe Abraham and Jacob to tithe out of love and not of necessity, in which the Isrealites were commanded to do due to the hardness of their hearts. I also believe we have this option to tithe (which is 10% by definition) or give as the Lord leads us, not by command, but out of love as was before the law. I apologize once again for the manner at which I tried to correct you. God Bless All
---Michael on 5/23/09

Michael - To clarify, God gave the command to tithe on the first day of the second month in the second year of Exodus. See Numbers 1:1. At that time, there were 12 tribes of Israel, including Levi. See Genesis 49. Over four hundred years later when the land was divided, there had been a split, so there were 13 tribes at that time.
---Gary on 5/23/09

Michael By the time the land was actually given there were 13 tribes, including the tribe of Levi, but when they left Egypt, there were the original 12 tribes of Israel as seen in Genesis 49. Notice in Genesis 14:20 Abraham GAVE him tithes, NOT PAID him tithes. They PAID the Lords tithe. There is a big difference between giving and paying. This is where you need to study the Hebrew and Greek definitions of the tithe in the different verses. The definitions are not the same. In Matthew 23:23 Jesus confirms that you PAY tithe and the Greek definition substantiates this.
---Gary on 5/22/09

Michael - Tithing today goes against New Testament teaching which is SPIRIT LED GIVING. There is NO ten percent its not required, and it is not a guideline, goal, starting point, or anything else. This false teaching of tithing started in the US around the year 1870 and was money motivated, not scripture motivated. You might want to study the history of tithing. You might find, as I did, meetings where church leaders VOTED on how to teach tithing. It is a fraud. I have had meetings with 3 pastors so far and two now agree with me, and the third is praying about it.
---Gary on 5/22/09

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Genesis 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
---Michael on 5/22/09

part 1
I do not believe in tithe. it is used to make a pastor rich, ignorant & lazy.
it also develops a 'tithe mentality'. they think that life is easy & simple, just give your 10% & poof. with that kind of thinking, it causes others to stumble & put them in bondage.

even abraham went to egypt when there was famine in canaan.
---mike on 5/22/09

According to Numbers 34:14-28, I count 12 tribes inhereting the land not counting Levi.
---Michael on 5/22/09

No one can prove that Abraham was a tither. You aren't a carpenter just because you hammered a nail once either. He just happened to give 10% of his spoils (which he got by winning a fight) to A kingly priest. Just because he did that doesn't mean there was a law in effect that demanded he do this. It did, however become law for the Levitcal priesthood, which is also now abolished,(see Heb.7)and necessitated a change in the tithing law also, with Christ now being our priest and the Spirit now being our guide to direct us into giving as he leads us. Not by compulsion but by the Spirit.
The pharisees were encouraged to keep tithing because they were under this law becauseJesus hadn't died and rose again yet. We are not under this law anymore.
---john on 5/22/09

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Gary has some very good things to say about tithing.
---mima on 5/22/09

Michael - When God gave the command to tithe to Moses, and Moses gave the command to the Children of Israel, there were 12 tribes of Israel. 1 and 2 Corintians deal with free-will giving, from the heart, not under compulsion, NOT tithing. Abraham gave a free-will gift. It was not required and has nothing to do with tithing today. Both the Hebrew and Greek words for Abraham's so-called tithe strickly means one-tenth. It's a mathematical term. Jesus told the scribes and Pharisees they pay tithe. The definition here is to pay a tithe as a debtor or receive the tithe as a creditor. I am a Certified Professional Money and Finance Minister and teach this topic to pastors.
---Gary on 5/22/09

1 Corinthians 16:2 Upon the first [day] of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as [God] hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
--I give back to God a portion of my increase in furthurance of the gospel out of love not out of requirement.
2 Corinthians 9:6 But this [I say], He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly, and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
2 Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, [so let him give], not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
---Michael on 5/21/09

Tithing goes back to Abraham, before the law, who gave 10% of his increase to Melchizedek. Gen 14:20
Jacob also tithed before the law Gen 28:22
---Michael on 5/21/09

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Gary, twelve tribes tithed for the benefit of Levi. There was no tribe of Joseph. His two sons were made tribes, so there were actually 12 tribes not including Levi.
---Michael on 5/21/09

Bobbie - and just where in the Bible does God require tithing in the New Testament? It's not there. WHY did Jesus die on the cross? To set us free from the law so that we could be saved by grace. Quote me scripture that requires, or even suggests, that we should pay a tithe on our income today. Read your Bible, but DON'T change the words. Tithing goes back to the Twelve Tribes of Israel - eleven inherited the promised land with everything on it, and THEY had to pay God's tithe by giving it to the twelfth tribe, the tribe of Levi. Stop believing the lies perpetuated by pastors who teach that tithing is required today.
---Gary on 5/19/09

Whoever doesn't believe in tithing needs to read the Bible again. You just can't belive parts of the Bible and not the rest. And if you do that then maybe, your in an occult.
---Bobbie on 5/19/09

Since the law was nailed to the cross, tithing is no longer a command, therefore, those who tithe are not being obedient to God. The Word says those who put themselves under the law will be cursed by the law, and their faith shall have no value. God's command to tithe was NEVER on anything that man made or earned. It was always on gifts from God - FOOD - crops and animals. Stop changing the words in the scriptures. Income was NEVER tithed on in the Bible. The farmers had income, but that isn't what they tithed on. Do a little reseach on the history of tithing. What is being taught today started around 1870. Shame on pastors that teach a lie.
---Gary on 5/19/09

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Deut 14:22-end describes two tithes. The first is the annual tithe on the increase. When you read the Scripture for yourself, you will find that the tither and his household feasted on his own tithe. It was a time to remember God's provision.
The second tithe was given every three years and stored in what was essentially silos and set aside for the Levites, widows, fatherless, and aliens in the land.
Hebrews 7 is the only New Covenant passage that addresses tithing. The Greek language is an interesting study. Just know that this passage uses languge like "change in the law" and "annulled". Giving is good. It's the letter that kills.
---David on 2/18/09

.pierr, no challenge. The Lord God says: "Take free, donate free. But woe to you Ministers, because you all take tithes...and pass by the discernment and the love of God, these befits to do and them not to leave aside. Is it not written, My house will be called of all nations The house of prayer? but you all have made it a den of robbers. All their wickedness in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more. And having made a whip out of green stems he drove out all them out of the Temple, and the firstling sheep and them bullocks and the money-chargers, pouring out the coins and overturning the tables." Mat.10:8+ Lk.11:42+ Mk.11:17+ Ho.9:15+ Jn.2:15.
---Eloy on 2/16/09

Bob, you are right. Paul never mentioned tithing. He was the Apostle to the Gentiles, so we Gentiles try to go by what he had to say to us. Paul never mentioned hell either. He never threatened people with hell when he evangelized them. God bless!
---JohnnyB on 2/15/09

ELOY: Can you support your entry by the Bible.
I challenge you to try!
---Pierr5358 on 2/14/09

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I often wonder why Paul, a Jewish man, an expert and up holder of the law, in all of his ministry, didn't mention the 10 percent tithing of the law. Maybe he thought it was easy for a grace christian to understand they were not under the law but under grace. He did say to take up collections and offerings for the Saints. He wouldn't allow circumcision, a law into the church, and circumcision came before the law just like Abraham's tenth, which came from the spoils they captured. The 10 percent tithe was to support the entire tribe of Levi which numbered 22,000 at that time. The majority of God's projects were financed by freewill offerings, just like church projects today.
---Bob on 2/14/09

Do not be deceived, God is notr mocked. Tithers are cursed by the Lord himself, and those in churches whom require tithes Jesus calls them robbers which turn his house of prayer into a den of robbers. Indeed these are wolves in sheeps clothing whom Jesus himself will drive out of his kingdom into outer darkness, and he will love them no more.
---Eloy on 2/14/09

A person who does not tithe is a robber. In addition, a person who does not give offerings is guilty before God of robbing Him.
Read: Leveticus 27:30 and Malachi 3:8
Conclusion: Your TITHES and your OFFERINGS belong to God.
What is tithe?
Read: Leveticus 27:32
For the regular person it is one tenth of his/her income= tithe.
For the businessman/woman it is one tenth of his/her profit/increase which is subject to the tithe.
Purpose of tithe-Read 1 COR 9:13-14
---Pierr5358 on 2/13/09

I attended a church for a few years. One Sunday morning the pastor said God spoke to him and told him that he should take the first offering each month for him and his family. Later on when his congregation started dwindling, he said God spoke to him again and that he was to go back on salary. Everyone knew the pastor did as he pleased even though they had a church board. I believe he thought the congregation would give him more money than his salary paid. It didn't work out that way. Do you think he was wrong for doing it? Do you think God would tell a pastor to do something like that?
---Bob on 2/13/09

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There is no debate, God is not mammon.
---Eloy on 2/13/09

A pastor I knew agreed with new covenant giving of giving from the heart cheerfully. He said pastors and especially big time evangelists love to quote Malachi using the robbery part to put guilt on christians and the blessing part God promises. He then asked us if anyone of us had ever heard and instance or knew anyone that God had blessed with so much, that their houses couldn't contain the blessing. Everyone was silent. God blesses all of His children saved by grace with the same blessings. All of His promises and good things pertaining to life and godliness are free through Christ Jesus.
---Bob on 2/12/09

I tithe because God commands it. I believe God chose money and tested man because we tend to make it an idol and God wanted to see what we love more, money or him, so he decided to ask us to give. It was more to see who we put first. I also believe in the scripture in Malichi, if we tithe, will not God open up the doors of heaven and pour out a blessing you can not contain. This is the only thing in the bible that God says we can test him in. I believe it teaches you about faith and who do you put your trust in. God says if I feed the birds, will I not take care of you? Are you willin to trust God that he will take care of you?
---janine on 2/12/09

I helped take up offerings in two churches. One located in a wealthy area and the other in a country environment. There were various individuals who would cup their hand when they put it in the basket as if they were ashamed of what they were offering. The small church was made up mostly of senior citizens who gave between two and five dollars, some put in change, including my mother. Both pastors strongly taught ten percent tithing. What kind of feelings do you think those who gave what they could were experiencing? The majority of my fellow christians always justify their tithing in accordance with Paul's teaching of setting aside a certain amount as you purpose in your heart and give it cheerfully.
---Bob on 2/10/09

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Yes I do. God promises blessings to those who do.
---paul on 2/9/09

Malachi 1:7 "You are presenting defiled food upon my Altar.V8 "But when you present the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? And when you present the lame and sick, is it not evil.V13 "and you bring what was taken by robbery, and what is lame or sick, so you bring the offering! Should I receive that from your hand?" says the Lord. As usual TV evangelists and pastors forget to mention that the robbery taken place was not quantity but quality. The tithes and offerings were being made, but instead of giving God the best animals, they were giving him the worst.
---Bob on 2/9/09

As others have said, OT tithes were food only, and many scholars say were only paid by the agrarian members of Israel.

That said, 1/3 of the tithes went to take care of the poor/widows/orphans etc...That was the LAW. Today, we have secular laws that do the same thing.

Since churches no longer practice the "poor tithe" outlined in the OT, I do not give them that portion. I feel free by grace to distribute the portion for the poor via welfare taxes, social security, and freewill offerings to Christian charities.

Also, I really agree with the teaching that we are under grace and freewill "offerings" apply today.
---obewan on 2/9/09

I tithe because it is an act of obedience and worship, and it is a way of sowing into the building up of God's kingdom. 100% of the tithes at my church goes to missions, so it's an opportunity for me to help spread the gospel to other countries. I don't do it in order to get more money back. I don't see the Lord as a personal piggy bank like some of the mammon lovers in the churches. I give not expecting anything in return, but I believe the Lord blesses me, regardless of whether or not I get more money back. It's not about money. It's about obedience to Jesus, and sowing into His kingdom. God bless!
---BryanG on 2/8/09

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Since everyone has different opinons, I believe every believer should seek out thier ow n personal direction from God themselves, on what and how to give.
Think about this
-----------------------God is not going to send you to hell for not paying "tithes"
-----------------------You are not promised heaven for paying "tithes"
we need to focus more on our soul salvation, what truly matters
---misso on 1/16/09

I tithe because I want to show my thankfulness to the Lord. It is an act of worship.
---melanie on 5/29/08

2 Cor. 9:7 Each one must give as he has made up his mind, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Tithing is an Old Testament ordinance used to met the needs of the Levitical priesthood.It was basically agricultural in nature.

However,I do believe ten percent is a good starting point for those God has blessed financially.
---Lee1538 on 5/29/08

No real christian would follow the tithing law.
---Duane on 5/13/08

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It says in the Bible that, and how one should tithe. It is a responsibility of a Christian, to make sure the Word can be distributed all over the world.
---Junia on 3/29/07

I dont agree
---calhoon on 3/29/07

Being loved is hard for me. Thank you.
---jhonny on 3/9/07

1. 19 "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments,.."
20, "..except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees,.."
All the righteousness of law has been moved in Christ. Our righteousness is fulfilled in Christ by one word LOVE, Ga 5:14 "..all the law is fulfilled in one word,.." Christ is our righteousness.
---jhonny on 3/9/07

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2. questions of law are about freedom. What makes us holy? What makes us righteous? What do we have to do? Belief in the Messiah/Christ who sets the ungodly free is the ultimate act of rightouesness.
Rm. 4:5, "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

---jhonny on 3/9/07

I agree with jhonny's comment on 3/7/07. Do not give to the showbiz religions like Benny Hinn.
Give to the things of God like the poor, with a cheerful heart.
I also agree that we should do it all out of gratitude for what Jesus did for He is our gateway to reconciliation and forgiveness of the God.
I think tithing is right cause it is a nice thing to do for God
---johnlovesginalyn on 3/8/07

johnny, I love what you have to say. Thank you for the wonderful posts and the truth regarding what the tithe really is.
---Ryan on 3/8/07

Lloyd. As per your referecne to Mal. 3:10. It is the priests who were robbing God. Just as they are today. Mal 2:1 "And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you."
People often follow who they deem as their leaders. And we are responsible for whom we follow.
---jhonny on 3/7/07

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Yoloanda you say tithing is a command from the Lord. Yes, tithing is written in the law of Moses. Heb 10:28 "He that despised Moses law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:" One television evangelist says this year, is a year of release. Who's keeping it? Funny how they just forget about the year of release. It's part of tithing, written in the law of moses. Why is tithing a commandment, and the year of release some left over, excess verbage, if anyone heard of it.
---jhonny on 3/7/07

Here is a funny little fact: The tithe was never monetary income, it was alswys agriculture, for the inheirtance of the tribe of Levi.
---Ryan on 3/7/07

Have you tracked how your tithe, or more than a tithe, is represented. People today have lost the application of compassion to the poor as they come in their life, because they have delegated that responsibility to a "higher" authority. Show-biz religion. If you want to tithe, keep it holy. Denial of what Christ has done in your life is not a good beginning.
---jhonny on 3/7/07

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