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Ashes On The Forehead

I see some people that have marks on their forehead. I see this right before spring, I think. Someone said that they are ashes. They look like the living dead or something weird. What are ashes for?

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The smudge mark made by the ashes is a powerful reminder that we are going to die because death is the penalty for our depraved natures and sins of thought, word, and deed. The fact that the ashes are placed on our foreheads in the sign of the cross directs us to Jesus Christ as the only way to forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life in heaven.

Lent is not about our giving up something to please God. Lent is about what Jesus Christ gave up to pay the penalty for the sins of the world -- His holy and innocent life. As many churches sing during this Lenten season:
The sinless Son of God must die in sadness,
The sinful child of man may live in gladness,
Man forfeited his life and is acquitted,
God is committed!
---paul on 12/8/08

wonderwhat - *Why do you imply that Jesus did not create ALL THINGS when clearly John Ch1 says He did? Are you drunk?

What you are doing is reading something into one of my post that is really not there. Scripture is rather plain on this issue.

Col 1:16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authoritiesall things were created through him and for him.

I really do not care much for alcoholic beverages, thro I concur with Paul's advice to Timothy to take a little wine once in a while for the stomach sake.1 Tim. 5:23

and we are not to be drunk with wine 'for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit,...Eph. 5:18
---Lee1538 on 11/8/08

Far too much over familiarity for only two weeks.

"Lee: Why do you imply that Jesus did not create ALL THINGS when clearly John Ch1 says He did? Are you drunk? Your last post made no sense."
---TS on 4/2/07
---WonderingWhy on 10/29/08

Kathr, need I remind you that Jesus stated that Christians would fast after His ascension? That we were given specific instructions on fasting as Christians?

I would also point out that fasting during Lent is modeled after Jesus own 40 day fast and NOT the general Jewish traditions. If you are truly using the Bible as your rule of faith, then you too are fasting - but if not during lent, when?
---lorra8574 on 10/1/07

OK another resurrected Post Hi Kathrn, do you agree have you any recollection how far back lent passed twice over I would saybut to roll-a-deck the dates in this day & age is easy.we need some more cannon Fodder.what do you think Hollyor Andrea , maybe it may improve the ratings are we slipping.
---Emcee on 10/1/07

Kathrn::I give you one verse & you jump on me & condemn me for being disobedient.You dont even know me dear lady.Well if its not pride But boldness It is still judgemental dont you agree.Am I being disobedient for following Jesus through His Church matt.16:17-19.Be honest & declare what denomination you belong to.Tell us please.
---Emcee on 10/1/07

Lorra: Good question.
In scripture leaven represented:
to cause to be permeated with something (as a principle or quality) that alters
Mixing Jewish Law with Catholic Tradition is an example of leaven.

Paul tells us concerning mixing Law and Grace, that a little leaven RUINS the whole lump. He goes on , If Jesus Christ has set you free (from the law of sin and death) then dont go back into bondage. We live in the RISEN Christ AD. No yeast necessary.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/07

Emcee said: **Kathrn:In this game the predicted & sure winner & not even by a margine is "Jesus CHURCH Team"--"

Oh Emcee....That IS TRUTH!!!!
---kathr4453 on 4/12/07

Kathr, fat tuesday would be just like the day before the Feast of Unleaven Bread. Jews removed all leaven from their household so that there would be none during the Feast of Unleaven Bread which lasted until First Fruits. On fat Tuesday, proper Catholics remove food items that are not conducive to fasting during Lent, this often included fat. Mardi Gras is a perversion of this very good and useful tradition. Fasting is Biblical and Christ approved it for us.
---lorra8574 on 4/12/07

Kathrn:In this game the predicted & sure winner & not even by a margine is "Jesus CHURCH Team"--"The gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"All hecklers & booers of the opposing team go home weeping & gnashing their teeth.
---Emcee on 4/12/07

Kathrn:In this game the predicted & sure winner & not even by a margine is "Jesus CHURCH Team"--"The gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"All hecklers & booers of the opposing team go home weeping & gnashing their teeth.
---Emcee on 4/12/07

Emcee: The GOSPEL teaches we REPENT "once and for all",turning our lives to the Lord. Paul taught that once you have turned,we die daily 27/7/365. No where in scripture is there a Fat Tuesday where some(not all) can sin to their hearts content, and then repent of those sins the following 40 days, only to do it again the next year and the next. When Traditions of men override the Scriptures,this is not the Traditions we are to follow. Paul said,be ye followers of me the way I am of Jesus Christ.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/07

It is also so important to remember that some plant and some water, but God gives the increase. We are never to say we knock the dust off our sandals. God said, bless and curse NOT. We never know how the seeds we plant or those we water God will affect in HIS timing. God's ways are not our ways. Bless and curse not.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/07

1 Corinthians 4:12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

13Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

14I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.

15For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/07

The Body of Christ works as ONE In Christ. As players on a football field, we keep our eye on the ball. Each has its own position on the field. There is only ONE Coach; Father Son and Holy Spirit. We watch each others backs, and the purpose is to run towards the goal. If one should fumble the ball, another intercepts and continues to run.

There are:
1. Players
2. Fans

3. Opposing team
4. Boooooo(ers) and Hecklers

Are you a TEAM player?
---kathr4453 on 4/12/07

Kathrn::If you could understand that then what does Gods voice say to you in the beginning of Lent "REPENT & LISTEN TO ME"Turn over a new leaf work on the perfection I have asked of you .
---Emcee on 4/11/07

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There are two wonderful lessons to be learned from Esther and Ruth. Both became obedient unto death. Ruth lay at the feet of Boaz, risking her reputation, fell to the mercy of Boaz. Esther, going uninvited to the King, that could mean death to her, obeyed the voice of God, and went, finding mercy of the King, and that mercy led to the saving of her people Israel. Never underestimate the Power of God. Obey His voice at all times, in spite of man.
---kathr4453 on 4/11/07

Sue, Sure there's an effect, just not the overblown and dramatized "global warming." There will always be an affect whenever living things populate anything. Beavers make dams- which can cause consternation to other living things down the river. Does that mean they're causing global warming? Life is messy. Should we act responsibly, yes. Should we expect perfection and things to remain pristine - no. There's no such thing as long as there is life. EVERYTHING - except God, changes.
---daphn8897 on 4/11/07

Sue/daphne: "God will destroy those who destroy the earth." Yes, pollution has its effect but Global Warming is not being done by man. It is caused by the Sun. Cancers and pestilence comes from what man is doing.
---TS on 4/11/07

Daphn: So do you think that continued pollution of our planet for all these years would have no effect on it? God Bless
---sue on 4/10/07

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Global warming was not really the point.
It was a visual for the smokescreens that we see across the blogs. Guard your hearts, protect your vision, cling to God's truth through the Word.
---SmokeScreen on 4/10/07

daphne: You are correct! It is Fear Mongering in order to create an industry to get money from the clueless and a power grab via "Political Science 101."

US Geological Survey confirms that the Earth goes through 500 Year tidal cycles. Every 500 years the ocean water reaches a new low and then a new high 500 years later. We are on an upward trend that has more to do with "Solar Power" than with greenhouse gas.
---TS on 4/10/07

Emcee: No force needed. Such would be the Roman way. I stand on the Rock of Scripture ;) They said He had a demon too. Seems Pharisees still use the same tactics.
---TS on 4/10/07

Smoke Screen, There are as many, if not more scientist that say the whole global warming thing is basically junk science. If we couldn't even take accurate temperatures until less than 200 years ago, how can we legitimately think we can predict such a trend. It's just foolishness. Fairly recently, back in the 1970s, they were saying we were going to enter into another Ice Age... It's all political fodder. You would think folks would be smarter than to fall for it.
---daphn8897 on 4/10/07

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Oh Emcee: We are to ****Grow**** in the Grace and Knowledge of Jesus Christ. Paul, James, Peter, John all teach this. Maturing to grow up into the fullness and stature of Jesus Christ. Ephesians 4. This is actually a command. Hebrews 6 says press on to maturity. That is the wonderful **simplicity** in Christ Jesus. No longer I but Christ in me. He who has begun, will continue...This is what brings Glory to God. God Bless!
---kathr4453 on 4/10/07

kathrn::Maybe you have a different perspective within your own mind.I just believe in simplicity interpretation is definitely in the eyes & minds of the beholder& gives rise to confusion :certainly not mine.
---Emcee on 4/9/07

Smoke is clouding our view of global warming, protecting the planet from perhaps three-quarters of the greenhouse effect. That might sound like good news, but experts say that as the cover diminishes in coming decades, we are in for a dramatic escalation of warming that could be two or even three times as great as official best guesses.
---SmokeScreen on 4/9/07

A smokescreen that changes views like some people change socks is still in the fog.
Maintaining and protecting your vision in a fog is good practice.
When the smokescreen tries to cover the blogs with a fog, put your trust in God.
He has provided us with everything we need to protect our precious vision of Him.
---SmokeScreen on 4/9/07

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Emcee #2, The verse in Isaiah just before, is that gentiles are fellow heirs of the Gospel according to the Mystery...Christ in you, the Hope of Glory.
The "Beauty" for ashes is Christ Himself. HE IS the very promise of that prophesied in Isaiah 61. We put on Christ. We've exchanges our ashes for His Righteousness. He is our Joy, our Life, our Gladness. Rejoice in the Lord. He is our all in all.
It's not a pettifog matter. He died and rose again so that we could have the Riches in Him.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/07

Emcee: The MYSTERY was given to Paul, wonderfully opened up in Colossians and through Pauls epistles.

Ephesians 3
1For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
2If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
*******3How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,********
4Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
---kathr4453 on 4/9/07

Kathrn::Isiah proclaimed The coming of ChristIN THE OT.Jesus Suffering & death was in the NT.The fulfilment of the Prophecy.You did not turn over a new leaf & again missed the opportunity.
---Emcee on 4/9/07

Helen, He was referring to those who were hard hearted and would not receive those whom he sent. If the sandle fits...
---daphn8897 on 4/9/07

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Isaiah 61:3
To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/07

pettifog /ˈpɛtiˌfɒg, -ˌfɔg/ verb (used without object), -fogged, -fogging. 1. to bicker or quibble over trifles or unimportant matters
---Observer on 4/9/07

Daphn8897 - When Jesus said to "shake the dust of your sandals" He was referring to unbelievers who will not listen, not believers like Kathr4453.
---Helen_5378 on 4/9/07

kathr, Don't think you heard that from God. My well is not dry, for he has filled it. I shake the dust from my sandles.
---daphn8897 on 4/9/07

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Kathrn::what has Collosians & st Paul got to do with Jesus death Triumph Got to do with this ashes on the forehead >Girl you are all confused & produving Rabbits out of a hat in your mind but in your hand tyou have nothing Illusions,Re read my answer This was about Lent & ashes Easter is passed & as I said earlier we would still be talking about ashes & the point will have been Missed
---Emcee on 4/9/07

Alan of UK: I would like to ask you 6 questions.
1. WHO set you free?
2. WHAT set you free?
3. WHEN were you set free?
4. WHERE were you set free?
5. HOW were you set free?
6. WHY were you set free?

If you're truly free...then....
Galatians 5:1
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

These are GOD'S Words, not mine.
---kathr4453 on 4/8/07

Emcee: Please oh Please read Colossians!
Colossians 1:18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

26Even the MYSTERY which hath been ***hid ****from ages and from generations, but NOW is made manifest to his saints:

27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this MYSTERY among the Gentiles; ****which is CHRIST IN YOU**** , the hope of glory:
---kathr4453 on 4/8/07

daphn8897: The Lord and I had a great big chuckle this morning about your comment. I asked Him if that was so, He said "ABSOLUTELY NOT". daphn is just trying to shut you up because you are saying what I put in your mouth to say. I did not give her those words to say to you. daphn is jealous because her well is dry. Carry on!
---kathr4453 on 4/8/07

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daphn #2
As I said before, no one who compromises the truth is in no position to instruct anyone. I am not angry. Your perception of me comes only through your own conscience. Yet you have no conscience to tell the truth.
I will say, anyone who disrupts and throws stones and mud out of a dry well as someone witness is anoying. Do you see your own actions? You have thrust yourself (self) to be more important here then my conversation with Emcee. That is NOT of God.
---kathr4453 on 4/8/07

daphn #3: It happens though! It's what happens when the Gospel is preached.

1 Thessalonians 2:2
But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention.
---kathr4453 on 4/8/07

Carla: The Lord asked me to give this to you! Be bold my friend! God Bless!

Ephesians 3:16
That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

Hebrews 13:6
So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.
---kathr4453 on 4/8/07

Kathr ... How sad that although Jesus set us free from pettifogging rules, you are introducing new ones ... You are deciding what we may or may not do.
It is not for you to decide, it is for each person and God
---alan_of_UK on 4/8/07

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kathr, It isn't a matter of what I think - it is a matter of what God thinks. I don't have to stand accountable for your actions, but I do mine. He impressed strongly on me that you needed to be reminded that it is a soft answer that turns away wrath, and the anger of men has never brought about righteousness in anyone. Many of your posts are angry, and you seem to be easily offended , unteachable, and argumentative.
---daphn8897 on 4/7/07

Kathrn::What is a MYSTERY?Genesis says we are made in the image & likeness of God.(OUR SOUL)God came down as a Man to show us that as man we are all in a position to attain Heaven.He set the example Gave us,HIS church,His Rules. Left us His Gifts To be Godlike,like Him & then we will Rise in THE LIVING Christ, Glorious in Him.Finally HIS Request "Follow me" Where is the Mystery.Even Blind Bartimeus saw it.
---Emcee on 4/7/07

Kathrn::What is a MYSTERY?Genesis says we are made in the image & likeness of God.(OUR SOUL)God came down as a Man to show us that as man we are all in a position to attain Heaven.He set the example Gave us,HIS church,His Rules. Left us His Gifts To be Godlike,like Him & then we will Rise in THE LIVING Christ, Glorious in Him.Finally HIS Request "Follow me" Where is the Mystery.Even Blind Bartimeus saw it.
---Emcee on 4/7/07

Emcee: If man could enter into heaven by being perfect,all we needed was the Law. The Law being perfect would be our measuring stick. Well,we didn't measure,we fell short..All. Jesus died on the Cross for our inability to measure up to the Holiness of God. Now, He died and rose again, so that we,who follow Him into death will be raised up with Him a New Creation.
Romans 6...Gal 2:20. This is what the Bible teaches. Christ in you measures up. Please read Romans 6. Colossians 2, Romans 16:25-27
---kathr4453 on 4/7/07

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Ephesians 5:30For we are members of HIS body, of HIS flesh, and of HIS bones.

31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

2This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

It's a MYSTERY Emcee. It's the Gospel accorning to the MYSTERY. Gal longer I but Christ in me.
---kathr4453 on 4/7/07

Carla5754: You are correct. It would appear the greatest SIN here are those who compromise Truth. Jesus said, You will be witnesses of Me.
A witness:
1. Tells the Truth,
2. The WHOLE Truth
3. And nothing but the Truth, so help me God!
God Bless
---kathr4453 on 4/7/07

Kathrn::Jesus as Adam 2 saved the world as Man in God. He suffered His pain like any man,thus conquering Sin & defeating Satan.we think,He being God was able to do & overcome.I see the message different.He came to show HIS way to heaven as a man, it was possible; hence He said Follow me & be perfect.& nothing defiled would enter heaven so we are called to improve The ashes is just a reminder that it is time again to make a concerted effort if we wish to conquer sin like He did.
---Emcee on 4/6/07

daphn: One more comment, and this will be my last comment on this question. Looking at the voting system from a different perspective, I have NOT offended 47 people, You have NOT offended 24 people. You will just have to let the viewers decide who is and isn't offended. Some here have been on much longer and by what I see have not inspired or offended!
---kathr4453 on 4/6/07

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2 Corinthians 4: 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our HEARTS to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

May the LIGHT of the Glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ, shine in your HEARTS. We are justified by His Blood and saved by His RISEN life that we may *KNOW* the Lord as our very lifes breath. Colossians 3:1-4
God Bless! Have a safe weekend!
---kathr4453 on 4/6/07

daphn: Many online have issues with those who "hear" through their"eargate" but stop short of obeying what they hear.This is what you all don't *hear* them saying. Faith without obedience to what we hear is dead. Hearing can come from many places, and many are not of God. God empowers His Words, no one elses. Many theologies and doctrines of demons,who've graduated from the University of Balaam! Be sure to know the difference. God's Children don't hear or obey the voice of strangers.
---kathr4453 on 4/6/07

Faith has nothing to do with human reasoning. Faith cannot be reasoned. When Moses lifted his staff and the sea parted..can that be reasoned? Now, many though will try to reason it "away" as they have. But Moses simply obeyed the Voice of God. How can one reason a bush that burns but never burns up? How can one reason Lazarus rising from the dead at the voice of Jesus? Faith my friends is faith in Jesus Christ and what *HE* does and says. It just can't be reasoned, only believed from the HEART.
---kathr4453 on 4/6/07

Mark 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?

6 He answered and said to them, Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

" This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the
Commandments of men.
---kathr4453 on 4/6/07

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Kathr, Be encourages my sister an don't let no one destroy the boldness Luther lost his life so we as women could reason in the word. We are all striving for the salvation of all including ourselves and if you listen to the bowl of contention here, it almost sounds as if we are agreeing to idol worship and paganism as some of the members are now AGREEING with. I guess from the little response few would agree!
---Carla5754 on 4/6/07

2# I have friends that have grown up in that religion and have very little regard for issues such as swearing, smoking,and drunkenness professing to be Catholic. In actual fact the school fround upon unmarried mums and refused their children entry until the state funded the schools a few years back. As one of the questions asked on entry are there any differences in the two faiths namely Christianity/Chatholic's to which the answer is yes! There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
---Carla5754 on 4/6/07

kathr, I'm not destroying the body. I'm exorting you to not use "personality" as a reason to sin. You can have a strong personality, yet exude biblical femininity, grace, and mercy. Don't use the excuse, "that's just the way I am." If that was a valid one, none of us would be saved.
---daphn8897 on 4/6/07

Kathrn::Your quote would appear that you are a GOD are you "bone of my bone Flesh of my Flesh" in Jesus.You have no legal Leader or guidance except what you determine in your mind. Being like God you have NEVER Comitted Sin?But what does the word say ALL are born short of the Glory of the transalated you are many steps ahead of normal mankind. IS this not Pride?Satan claimed to God "I am the greatest.That was his downfall.
---Emcee on 4/6/07

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Romans 6:17
But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the HEART that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.

Now comes the renewing of the MIND in Romans 12:1&2.

What daphn is talking about is called Gnosticism. Reformed Theology is Gnosticism. You see, they dont need to obey, because they are already saved and say they have to do nothing(obey) They just learn, trying to impress you with their higher "intellectual insults" . Yuck!
---kathr4453 on 4/6/07

kathr, Not judging... just speaking to what appears on this blog. You are correct, that a heart change is needed for salvation. However, you aren't correct that it comes through the heart first. When you heard the Gospel, it came through your eargate, then was processed in your mind, which was ignited by the Spirit... God's word touched your mind first... hence my reference to moving from there to your heart.
---daphn8897 on 4/6/07

kathr, Scripture also tells us not to think too highly of ourselves. We are to put others first - which means being humble before them. Jesus tenderly washed the feet of his disciples. This is his example of humility. How have your strident and often critical words walked that out?
---daphn8897 on 4/6/07

daphne: When we're saved we're given Gifts. Each have a "different" gift God uses through our unique personality He also created in us. The same Gift may operate in a unique way through different people. Just look at the different personalities of the apostles. James seems rather dry and stern doesn't he? He was tough!!! I'm not saying we're apostles, I'm saying we have different personalities/gifts. We're not to step on one another's Gifts. Use yours to preach the Gospel, not destroy the body!
---kathr4453 on 4/5/07

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Emcee: The Church I belong to is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ IS the Church. I am a member of "His Body". Bone of His Bone and Flesh of His Flesh. Ephesians 5. Are you saying to me if I don't say, "I'm this or that of earthly denominations that Jesus will deny me? Have you read 1st Corinthians 3. Paul rebuked such things, saying, "Is Christ divided?" Are you not carnal? Emcee, no denomination died for my sin. Did the early church have denominations? NO!!!
---kathr4453 on 4/5/07

Emcee: The only reason you want to know what Church I go to is so you can research that particular denomination and find fault, therefore then finding fault with me. I know how people think. No church is perfect. I don't 100% endorse any denomination. So you cannot judge me on where I go to church. Don't judge ME emcee...judge the scriptures to see if I'm lying to you. I put here scripture. I don't change the wording. If you're angry, your anger is not with me, but with God's Word. It happens!
---kathr4453 on 4/5/07

daphn: Actually is's heart knowledge that penetrates to the head. Those with only head knowledge have no real relationship with the Lord...only books, and someone elses experience. Considering you don't know me other then 85 words to share the Gospel, I've shared very little of my personal life. Until you know someone and walked in their shoes, it would be most graceous of you not to judge. God will bring to light those thing He does in the secret councels of one's heart on the other side of the Cross.
---kathr4453 on 4/5/07

This is good stuff. "We are ALWAYS carrying about in our body the dying of Jesus that the life of Jesus is manifest. Both work together spontaneously. An ash will not do the wonderful work of Christ in you. Jesus works from the inside out." How about taking it to the next step... inquire about the individual's reasoning (even if you think you know). Ask good questions. You can't make folks find the right answer... but the Holy Spirit can.
---daphn8897 on 4/5/07

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James 4:4Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.6But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith,God resisteth the proud,but giveth grace unto the humble.
God imparts His Grace,the knowledge of HIM, and the Wisdom in Christ Jesus,to the humble! These are The Riches In Christ Jesus.
---kathr4453 on 4/5/07

Kathrn:Adroitly avoided But the question Remains?"He who denies me before man I shall also deny him, before my Father who is in Heaven".Speak up & shame the Devil!!!!!
---Emcee on 4/5/07

Please understand Humility from God's eyes. Humility is accepting God's will. Jesus said,not my will, but Thine be done, Jesus said "Follow Me".(Phil 2)...keeping this mind in you that was also in Christ Jesus. Wonderful ch. on humility. If it were God's will to remove everything out of your life you're attached to in this world,would you say, "not my will but thine be done"? Could you say as Job, "though He slay me,yet will I trust in Him". This IS TRUE Humility before God.
---kathr4453 on 4/5/07

My people here do tend to bicker. I don't know what the ashes are for since I am not Catholic or attend a church who does that. I do know that if it helps keep you close to God, then I see no harm in it. I camp a lot because I can hear God better in the stillness of nature. Does that make me any less a believer? People do what they do to help them in whatever place they are in. Only God can judge the heart of that person, no one else.
---betty8468 on 4/5/07

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Emcee: The question should be not where one worships, but HOW one worships.

John 4: 23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Phil2: 3For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
---kathr4453 on 4/5/07

kathr, If you really humbled yourself before the Lord, you would be humble toward others. Press in deeper... you have the head knowledge, let it penetrate to your heart. It isn't about bowing to baal... it's about really understanding what humility is and what the Gospel is. At the foot of the Cross - we are all the same.
---daphn8897 on 4/5/07

Kathr, there's a nice thought. Christianity is the dominant religion in both North and South America, and in Europe. When prayer is allowed back in school, in the office, in government and in front of abortuaries, then I will know that we don't need ashes anymore.
---lorra8574 on 4/4/07

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