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Has anyone an opinion about this Korean woman who said Jesus took her to see heaven and hell and describes it in great detail?

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John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

While very true, only those who are drawn by the Father will believe and have eternal life.

6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Scripture must be interpreted by scripture otherwise you may believe salvation is not wholly of God but is something that man in his natural state can acquire.

Again, it is that heresy promoted by Arminianism that the gullible fall into, thinking that God is dependent upon mans response to His grace.
---leej on 1/1/11

Gordon, the Bible gives detail of what hell is like. Almost all biblical teachings of hell come from the lips of Jesus. ---- If this images from the lips of Jesus are not enough, and you need some individual to tell you something different, then your quest for Truth does not lie with the Word of God but with the word of man. And if you believe people go to hell and come back, Scripture never mentions anyone leaving hell once there. So take your pick, believe the Word of God or the word of man. your choice.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/10

I totally agree. This also can be applied to John Calvin's traching as well. You either believe teh lips of Jesus or man.

WHOSOEVER WILL came from Jesus lips...
---kathr4453 on 1/1/11

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Amen.
The stories of heaven have been around for years. No two are the same.
If these stories were from God would they not match up?
---dowanor on 1/1/11

About people going to hell and back..
The first recorded lie
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, "Ye shall not surely die:" And Satan will show you visions to prove it
2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the power of Satan. He will use every kind of power, including miraculous signs, lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 and every type of evil to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them.
2Th 2:11 For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.
---dowanor on 1/1/11

// I mentioned the Once-Saved, Always-Saved (false) doctrine, (and I used to believe in it for years,...

When a person become a Christian that person is born again spiritually and essentially become a new creation (2 Cor. 5:17)and acquires the Holy Spirit as a seal of ownership (2 Cor. 1:22, Eph. 1:13,4:30). As a child of God, he or she falls under the discipline of God so that we may become what He wants of us. (Hebrews 12).

I think you are correct that those who believe in a slippery finger God, really don't have a REAL SOLID, IN-DEPTH GRIP ON the true devastation of sin and how horrible it's consequences are, i.e. Hell and the Lake of Fire
---leej on 1/1/11

There are a myriad of testimonies of those who have seen the horrors of hell, also of purgatory, and even have been given a glimpse of the glories of heaven.

But such things are for the individual, not for anyone else and they really do not prove anything as we can easily see many differences between one and the other.
---leej on 1/1/11

MarkV, You said that I am saying that "peoples' experiences have 'more truth' than what Jesus said about Hell." NO, Brother, I am not saying that the Visitations have a "GREATER DEGREE of Truth" than YAHUSHUA's own Words (as you imply). NO. I am saying that the Visitations are offering more DETAILS about Hell than what YAHUSHUA was quoted as saying. You seriously do not think that YAHUSHUA said and did more things than what the Canonical Scriptures tell us? Read JOHN 21:25! You suppose that those other Words and Deeds were "not as important" since they were not recorded in the Canonical Scriptures?? NAY. Everything He said and did was of great importance, whether or not they ended up in the Canonical Scriptures.
---Gordon on 1/1/11

MarkV, I mentioned the Once-Saved, Always-Saved (false) doctrine, (and I used to believe in it for years, so I know what it's about!), because when one believes such a way as that, they don't have a REAL SOLID, IN-DEPTH GRIP ON the true devastation of sin and how horrible it's consequences are, i.e. Hell and the Lake of Fire. Because one becomes less effected by those two Damned places of consequence since they totally believe that they could never end up there. So, "....there's no real need to know what Hell and the Lake of Fire are really like." And, verily, if one believes one false doctrine, it opens them up to believe OTHER false doctrines and, consequently, OTHER mis-understandings and misinterpretations of the Scriptures.
---Gordon on 12/31/10

MarkV, Yes, the Scriptures say that it is appointed unto man ONCE to die, and then the Judgment. Yet, what about Lazarus, who died, and was brought back to life again?? He didn't stay dead to face Judgment! GOD can color outside of His own lines if He wants. He has a right to take a person to Hell or Heaven and back if He wants. No efforts by anyone to keep Him inside of a "scriptural box" will hinder Him. What about Elijah, who DIDN'T DIE, but, was taken straight to Heaven alive in a Chariot? What about the future raptured Saints who WILL NOT DIE?? Your desire to stay true to the Bible is good, but, you're doing it the wrong way. Quit leaning on your own understanding of the Scriptures and give GOD some elbow room to do His thing!
---Gordon on 12/31/10

Gordon, there is no need to say what you said for it has nothing to do with what we are talking about when you said,
"No, Mark, you're way off base. Perhaps the "Once-Saved, Always-Saved" doctrine clouds your understanding here.
What does that have to do with visitations? You are starting to be like others, throwing insults.
And you are saying peoples experiences have more truth then what Jesus said about hell. You need them to convince you of hell. You say,
God would be first to tell you"
How do you know that? How in all creation would you know what God wants to do next with me? Or what His feelings and what His thinking of doing? You speculate and when you do, you believe it.
---Mark_V. on 12/31/10

MarkV, There is more detailed information on Heaven and Hell from the Visitations than what is available in the Canonical Scriptures. What's so blasphemous or heretical about acknowledging that? GOD would be the first to tell you that there is more detailed descriptions from personal testimonies of Visitations than what is in the Scriptures. Get real, Mark. I never said nor did I insinuate that the Scriptures are not true. The Holy Scriptures are all True. If GOD chooses to REVEAL more info about Heaven and Hell to people, than what He provided in the Scriptures, who are any of us to say He's doing wrong? How stupid is that.
---Gordon on 12/30/10

MarkV, You're saying that I am insinuating that "man's experiences have more truth than JESUS' Words in Scripture...." No, Mark, you're way off base. Perhaps the "Once-Saved, Always-Saved" doctrine clouds your understanding here. Pay attention, Mark, OKAY? I am simply saying that there are more details of Heaven and Hell given in the testimonies of the Visitations than what Scripture provides. That is not at all the same thing as if I were saying that those Visitations are 'more truthful and more reliable than the Scriptures'. The Visitations are given by the same GOD Who inspired men to write the Scriptures. Open your mind and your heart and the True Light of Truth will come in.
---Gordon on 12/30/10

Gordon 2: I didn't want to make this topic a long one, and I was ready to move on, but when you said I was slandering and lying, I had to respond to you.
You keep saying, God did this, or God did that, with nothing to confirm what you say. You are speculating because of someone stories. You have no idea what God is doing or thinking.
Lets get back to going to hell and back, can you find one verse that tells you that someone got out of hell or that it is possible for anyone to get out of hell? Once in hell Gordon, there is no way out. Before you speculate, know what that speculation can do against the Word of God.
---Mark_V. on 12/30/10

Gordon, your still saying the same thing, you said,

"MarkV, I didn't slander the Word of GOD. I only said that the Visitations to Heaven and Hell, that GOD HIMSELF has given to people!, offer more details of those two places than the Scriptures do."

You are clearly saying that man's experiences and what they say they have experience has more Truth then what Jesus said in Scripture. Then you say, as if you knew what God was doing,
! GOD does not give these Visitations because His Written Word is somehow "insufficient". He gives them out of His great MERCY."
How do you know God has given them those visitations? How do you know He had mercy on them? Where do you read this from? Your mind?
---Mark_V. on 12/30/10

MarkV, I didn't slander the Word of GOD. I only said that the Visitations to Heaven and Hell, that GOD HIMSELF has given to people!, offer more details of those two places than the Scriptures do. And, they do! GOD does not give these Visitations because His Written Word is somehow "insufficient". He gives them out of His great MERCY. And, the Visitations are based on GOD's Word. Remember the Apostle Paul telling of a man who visited the Third Heaven??? You ignore that? As I said, GOD Himself is giving these Visitations, SO THEY CANNOT BE AGAINST SCRIPTURE. GOD cannot be kept in a little box, He's just way too big for that!!!
---Gordon on 12/29/10

MarkV, Go back and read every one of my comments on this Blog. IT SEEMS that when you read my comments you only see those bits that you "disagree with" and are blinded from seeing everything else I have said. What about the Apostle Paul's witness to the man who was taken up into the Third Heaven??? That is the same kind of experience as is happening today to others. And, you're trying to tell me and everyone else on this Blog that these Visitations are against the Scriptures! These visitations TESTIFY to the Scriptures. And, GOD is causing these Visitations, so, how can they possibly, then, be against His Scriptures?? Again, GOD will not fit in a small box.
---Gordon on 12/29/10

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I could possibly believe a vision of heaven, but not of hell, because the wicked are not yet being punished.

Joh 5:28, 29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth, they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Rev 22:11,12 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly, and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
---jerry6593 on 12/29/10

Gordon, the Bible gives detail of what hell is like. Almost all biblical teachings of hell come from the lips of Jesus. The Bible describes hell as a place of outer darkness, a lake of fire, a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth, a place of eternal separation from the blessings of God, a prison, a place of torment where the worm doesn't turn or die. If this images from the lips of Jesus are not enough, and you need some individual to tell you something different, then your quest for Truth does not lie with the Word of God but with the word of man. And if you believe people go to hell and come back, Scripture never mentions anyone leaving hell once there. So take your pick, believe the Word of God or the word of man. your choice.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/10

Gordon, I will answer you again because of what you said I was doing,
" but, you need to quit SLANDERING them, because that's the same as LYING."
Gordon, you again insist Scripture is insufficient. That it need experiences from people when you said,
MarkV., The Bible does not give the details of Heaven and Hell that the Visitations do."

You are slandering the word of God. Now that is slander. I can slander the word of man anytime, but never the Word of God. If you need stories of visitations to convince you of heaven and hell, then God's Word was not good enough for you.
---Mark_V. on 12/27/10

MarkV., The Bible does not give the details of Heaven and Hell that the Visitations do. If GOD chooses to give Visitations of Heaven and Hell to people, then it can't possibly be against Scripture. If you do not believe in these Visitations, that's fine, but, you need to quit SLANDERING them, because that's the same as LYING. Telling people that what GOD is doing is "not really of GOD" is attributing to Satan that which is of GOD.
---Gordon on 12/27/10

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MarkV, You don't believe, then, that the HOLY SPIRIT has the Ability to convince a believer in their hearts of certain matter? The HOLY SPIRIT can audibly speak to a person, or convince someone in their hearts about something. I don't deny that the Holy Scripture is sufficient. It is the perfect written Word of GOD. Thus I believe this Word when it says that in the Latter Days GOD will give people Dreams and Visions. AGAIN, what about Paul's witness of being "caught up into the (Third) Heaven"?? Same difference as what's happening today. Paul was not allowed to mention what he saw, but, cannot GOD forbid one to testify of what they see, and then, turn around and permit someone else TO tell of what they saw??? (rhetorical question)
---Gordon on 12/27/10

Gordon, I am not putting God in a box. I am putting man in a box. God doesn't lie, man does. Why do you insist that the Bible is not sufficient? What does it need that God forgot to put in the Bible? people's experiences and dreams? Whose story are you going to believe from billions of them? And how do you know which one is truth and which one isn't? Will the Holy Spirit tell you which one to believe and which one not to believe? How do you know the Holy Spirit is telling you anything? Do you hear Him? For authenticity can you prove it? Its your story against all the others. God's Word is truth forever.
---Mark_V. on 12/25/10

Virginia: "So if this woman's story is true how would we know if she's one of these end times prophets?"

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If she does not speak according to the Bible, then she is a false prophet, and a distracting influence of Satan. The Bible says:

Ecc 9:5,6 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished, neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
---jerry6593 on 12/25/10

You're right, OKC taxlady, and we cannot put GOD in a little box and tell Him what He can and cannot do. We do know, from Scripture, what GOD's Character is like, but as far as giving people Dreams and Visions and Visitations...? How can we tell Him that He doesn't do that sort of thing?
---Gordon on 12/24/10

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Okc, they are happening in greater numbers, because there's more people in the world. Can an experience help? Yes it can. But it's not Scriptural. It comes from man not God. God made sure what we needed for salvation and life, would be in His Word. His plan is perfect. His Word is sufficient. If you hear a lot of stories, you, yourself have to make a decision what is truth and what is not. In Scripture we know all it's Truth. Just because Revelation is the testimony of Christ, does not mean everyone can give theirs and it is Scriptural. If you need to be scared about hell, read
"Sinners in the hands of an angry God" quotes from Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 12/24/10

MarkV, What makes more sense? Someone claiming to see "Jesus" in the toilet" or someone claiming to see JESUS in Heaven, and someone claiming that JESUS personally showed them Hell?? Even if you don't personally believe these Stories of Visitations, it is not wise to publicly, on-line, call ALL "Stories" false, if they are Biblical, like Visitations to Heaven, etc. It is FALSELY ACCUSING. Seeing "Jesus" in the toilet or on a tortilla is just plain stupid. Definitely of Satan to mock YAHUSHUA. But, GOD taking someone to Heaven and back? Biblical. Remember the Apostle Paul telling of someone who was taken up into the Third Heaven (and back)? BIBLICAL
---Gordon on 12/23/10

GORDON, MARK: I agree with both of you, have questioned for yrs about "out of death experiences", are they for real? Seems they are happening in greater numbers esp with children.I do think, God is trying to wake people up, get them thinking, is there a Hell or Heaven? Am I going there?

Lord can use many things, disasters, to get the lost to think about their souls.
My thots are not your thots, neither are my ways your ways, saith the Lord"
---OKC_taxlady on 12/22/10

Yes, Bible describes beauty of Heaven, for those who have been saved, Hell how awful it will be, for unbelievers.

They are both real.Hell, fire, brimestone, devil and his demons, false prohets, not someplace anyone wants.

So perhaps, coming back from the dead, will turn the lost to receive a loving Savior, hopefully soon, before Rapture, and they are left behind.
---OKC_taxlady on 12/22/10

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Brother Gordon, let me first say, that I hope that you and family have a wonderful holidays and a great New Year. Second, I can see by your answers that you have a good heart and your answers are righteous in content. People stories can get a person very confused. Everyone has some kind of dream, vision, or it could be that their perception of faith, allows them to see even God. But so many make up rediculous stories. Like seeing Jesus while in the toilet or while golfing or on a tortilla like in New Mexico. Never can any of that be proven it is of God. Just not possible. But it was nice debating with you on all this points. One day we might find out.
---Mark_V. on 12/22/10

MarkV, You said that what people say and do is not the truth. What? Despite all of the lies in the world, there are still people who tell the truth. Do you, then, not believe anything your loved ones tell you, since much of what they'll say will not be direct quotes from the Bible?? MEN wrote the Bible... They wrote the Bible by direct, Divine Inspiration of the HOLY SPIRIT. So, people have seen Heaven and Hell directly by the Omnipotent Hand of the Omni-Present God. I'll leave you in Peace, Brother, with that.
---Gordon on 12/22/10

MarkV, YAHUSHUA (JESUS) is Truth, indeed, as you said. And ALL TRUTHS come from Him. Say you plan to someday take a trip to New Delhi, India. You can go to the local Travel Agency and pick up a Bulletin or traveller's guide to New Delhi and therein receive basic info of that place. The info would suffice to get you there and 'round the city. But, how much detail will it comparison to....the details you will gather for yourself when you finally get there? And, how much more details of New Delhi will you have from your own personal experience, to share back home with loved ones, compared to just handing them a bulletin of said city to read?
---Gordon on 12/22/10

Gordon, You said,
"Some people are simply afraid of the Truth. AFRAID."

Gordon, there is only One Truth, the Truth is Christ. The Word of God is Truth. The Word became flesh. He was the Truth. What people say and witness and tell others, is not the Truth. It comes from man. Not from God. It cannot be proven that it is Truth. There is so many giving stories of restoring limb's and bringing people from the dead, even to seeing the Christ of the tortilla. This is not Truth. Again you suggest the Word of God is not sufficient for us to understand heaven and hell. That it needs peoples experiences to make it Truth. Since you believe what this people say is Truth, then my answers are of no value to you. Peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 12/22/10

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MarkV, That is falsehood to say that GOD is not taking people to Heaven and Hell and back. Who are any of us to say that GOD does not do such a thing? How dare any of us to slander these experiences. Were any of us THERE with these people when they claimed to have had their Visitations?? As you said, there are alot of details that GOD does not put in the Scriptures. Including lack of much detail about Hell and Heaven. So, He is giving people first-hand experiences in Heaven and Hell, and He is sending those people back here on Earth to TELL US IN DETAIL (founded on Scripture) so we can better understand these places. It is not at all against GOD and His Ways to give these Visitations to people. Some people are simply afraid of the Truth. AFRAID.
---Gordon on 12/21/10

Gordon, I'm glad you understand what I was saying. I'm sure there is many things God is doing in peoples lives, that others don't know. The problem is exactly what you said in the first part of your sentence when you said,
"MISUNDERSTANDING and MISINTERPRETATION of GOD's Written Word concerning these places," Written Word only, not someone experience.
The problem excepting someone's experience is that they can never proof it came from God. That is the problem with the gifts. Those who speak of raising the dead, and restoring limps, can never verify that it was God. No possible way. They can insist all they want, but no proof can be given. Unless Christ appeared in person and said, "I did it"
---Mark_V. on 12/18/10

MarkV., Thank you for your understanding on my gruffness. I appreciate it. Yes, the Word of GOD is sufficient for the Knowledge of the existence of Heaven, Hell and the Lake of Fire. But, as I said, there is so much MISUNDERSTANDING and MISINTERPRETATION of GOD's Written Word concerning these places, that GOD is giving some people literal Visitations to these places to give all of us, on Earth, the validity of GOD's Word, AND, to give details of the places, details that expound on GOD's Word. These Visitations are true and real, and GOD's people should regard them well.
---Gordon on 12/16/10

Andy, that was so funny what you said. I was laughing for a long time. I hardly laugh when I am alone. I sure did this time. What a story. I understand that sometimes because of a loss love one, people see them in dreams and want to know from others what it means. Some have dramatic experiences but they are not for everyone maybe, only for them. I had a dream four days ago on my birthday, where I saw my former wife appear to me so beautiful, with a perfect face, and hair so beautiful, and a glow all around her. I said to her "Honey, I knew I was going to see you again, it is you. You never really died" I was so stricken, that I woke up. What it means is, it was just a dream. Never one like this one.
---Mark_V. on 12/15/10

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but still my question is did it build? there is as i recall a book that appeared in 1999, forgot the author: who gave a totall apocalyptic vieuw of 2000 the NEW Milenium. because of that one friend ghot so overcarried he bought a generator stached hundreds of liters of kerosine, bought himself a supply of milk and puding powder and cans of beans in red sauce beyond number with dried bacon. armagedon was comming. oldyears eve 1999 to newyear 2000 nothing extra ordinary happened. the next two years however where extraordinary because of his panic he ate beans and dried bacon for a very long time causing him to fart extremely all the time true story. all i'm saying is that there is a lot of faux with the true stories.
---andy3996 on 12/14/10

Gordon, I wanted to add that it could be that many of those who do have a great testimony might be giving facts. That is surely possible. Testimonies are great for the body of Christ, to edify them and help them to cope with life through the eyes of others. I have no grip on that in anyway. I have heard of some great testimonies myself. They help in increasing my faith. Many people though, make more out of something then others. It's human nature to do that. Their intentions might be good, but most is coming from them. Just wanted to clear that up.
---Mark_V. on 12/12/10

Gordon, you did come on strong but I understand. It's OK. Here is what you are saying, all that you gave about someone's testimony, is not coming from Scripture, but from someone who witnessed some thing and is telling everyone about it. It is coming from them. Not God's Word. Second you said, which I was really surprised,
"Mere words cannot adequately describe the intense Beauty and the intense Horror of said places."
You are suggesting that the Word of God is not sufficient, that it needs some kind of an experience to go along with it to convince someone. Just not true at all. Testimonies are great but they do not come from God, but from men. Can you just imagine what every single person has experienced?
---Mark_V. on 12/11/10

MarkV, I do apologize for my being so gruff, and unecessarily so, in my last comment. What I MEANT to say is simply that the LORD is causing these Heaven and Hell Visitations to happen simply because He deems it necessary. There has been such misinformation put out in the World, regarding these places, that GOD is helping to "set the Record straight", backed by His own Scriptures, on what Heaven and Hell are truly like. Mere words cannot adequately describe the intense Beauty and the intense Horror of said places. But, it's a justified attempt to give a small taste to us, so we can better imagine what the Scriptures are saying.
---Gordon on 12/10/10

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These Heaven and Hell Visitations (like by Bill Wiese, B.W. Melvin, Mary K. Baxter, Don Piper, etc.) are like as if we were wanting to know what Jupiter was like. We can read astronomy books about it, see art renderings and photographs of it....But, if an astronaut, with the proper ship and apparel could actually land on that planet and then come back to Earth to tell us about his own personal experience on Jupiter....He would give to us MORE DETAILS about the planet that the books and photos did not nor could not convey.
---Gordon on 12/10/10

She dreamt the whole thing after eating a late-night snack of kimchi (fiery fermented cabagge-based staple of Korea, heavily seasoned with ginger, garlic & red pepper).
---Leon on 2/9/07

I've never laughed so hard in my life.
She probably did "dream" that Christ granted her some type of intimate exclusive.

---larry on 12/10/10

MarkV, Only speculation? And anything that YOU say on this Blog-Website, that you claim to be truth, could also be considered by everyone else here as "speculation", though, inside, you know that you know that it's true....If someone has a real visitation to Heaven and back, or to Hell and back, how can you dare to call it all just speculation? That's calling DOUBT upon what is really True. That's along the same lines as slander. Research the matter first, really well, BEFORE calling it mere "speculation". GOD does these Visitation things with people, read Paul's testimony of his Visitation to the third Heaven in the Scriptures, it validates this matter.
---Gordon on 12/10/10

I meant to say, in my last comment, that these modern-day Visitations of people going to and returning from Heaven, Hell and the Lake of Fire are giving witness that what the Scriptures say of these places is TRUE. GOD does not have to just confine our full understanding of these places by just His Scriptures. If He sees fit to cause these Visitations to happen then that's His Choice. And, He has all the Power to do these things, and He IS doing them, whether people believe it or not! Most people in Noah's day refused to believe that GOD was going to flood the Earth, too, and look what happened! What the majority of people think is usually, IF NOT ALWAYS, the opposite of what GOD thinks.
---Gordon on 12/10/10

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Gordon i did specifically mention that it was my vieuw. and that you got a blessing out of it is very good. but i do not see what you see. maybe it is because i live in a place where there's 99 percent religion. of which the church takes the most part: blessed are those who did not see and yet believe Jesus said so i might be blessed then. also blessed are you when they persecute and revile you for His name sake. so also you are blessed Gordon.
---andy3996 on 12/10/10

Eloy, I did not mean that GOD's Written Word was, in and of itself, impractical. I meant that since GOD has obviously seen fit to allow a comparatively handful of people real Visitations to Heaven and to Hell, that they may give the rest of us witness of those places...People are not understanding GOD's Word about Heaven or Hell, so, these Visitations are helping to life what the Scriptures declare.
---Gordon on 12/9/10

Andy3996, I do believe Choo Thomas' point of (her) book was to simply convey the reality of the existence of Heaven and Hell, that they exist JUST AS THE BIBLE SAYS. Because, again, there is too much confusion (and apathy) towards these two places, that people don't really believe the Scriptures just as they are written regarding these places. Plus, the Lord told her that another point of the book was to warn (and encourage) that He is returning SOON. I said all of this in my last comment, but, I guess it bears worth repeating. But, the Lord's negating someone's report of a round-trip from Hell is not as it seems. For, He's causing it to happen today, and people ARE believing as a result.
---Gordon on 12/9/10

Gordon, thats my point, she describes everything in detail but fails to give the reason, what i did get out of her book was that the more you do your best the better God is going to reward you... so not really convincing to me, i read another story of a convicted criminal, a forced laborour who died in a mine and was brought into hell, when he rose up he narrated his story and it was used to bring people to christ. nevertheless the bible does warn us that those who reject the prophets (preachers) and the law (bible) tha even when a dead man would come back it wouldnt be granted or believed.
---andy3996 on 12/8/10

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Gordon, I find your responses very practical concerning Heaven and hell. And your explanations unless I misread some of it. I also believe there could be cases where God personally did something in someone's life that He doesn't do to others. But that is only speculation. Because what we say and think has many errors, but the Word of God is all Truth. God does not explain every detail of what He is doing, He explains what we need to know now as a whole. If we put our own testimonies, as that lady did and others do, it is our own testimonies, not God's.
---Mark_V. on 12/5/10

This would be adding to the Bible, and the Bible says if you add or subtact - God shall take away his part out of the Book of Life.


---RICHARD on 12/4/10

Gordon, God not only finds the holy scriptures practical, but he says that his word is wholly dependable: and it is only unregenerate man whom rejects the scriptures and thinks God's word is impracticle because they choose falsehood over truth, and hell over heaven.
---Eloy on 12/4/10

Andy3996, If this korean woman is "Choo Thomas", then, I have read her book. I believe that GOD gives personal Revelations of Heaven and Hell to people. I'm not personally convinced about Choo's revelations as a few things don't seem accurate. But, the whole point of (her) book, as with those books written by others with real Experiences is to attest to people that that Heaven and Hell are, indeed real places, just as the Scriptures declare. And, to warn that YAHUSHUA (JESUS) is returning soon, and we should, therefore, prepare ourselves for His Return. Get our accounts with GOD (and man) in order.
---Gordon on 12/4/10

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Eloy, While regarding the Canonical Holy Scriptures as being the ONLY needed Source of information about Heaven and Hell is IDEAL, GOD Himself has found it not to be practical. Why?? Because, for as long as the info of Hell has been in Scripture, and for as long as we've had those Scriptures around, people are STILL NOT CONVINCED, and some are STILL UNCERTAIN that Hell is just as the Scriptures say! And, not many Churches are teaching, preaching and warning about Hell. The Visitations show that Hell IS Unquenchable Fire, Worms (Maggots, etc.), constant Thirst, Utter Darkness, Terrors, Torments, Screaming and Crying, etc.
---Gordon on 12/3/10

Francis, You're taking that Verse of II Peter 2:4 out of Context. The timing of the Judgment of those wicked angels is different than for mankind in general. Many people are not understanding Hell. Hell is TEMPORARY. It is a TEMPORARY place of Damnation. The Second Death, the Lake of Fire (Gehenna), is the Eternal place of Damnation. Two different places for the unsaved. So, an unsaved person has a place of punishment to go to (Hell) until the appointed time to cast them IN GOD'S TIMING into the Lake of Fire. Hell and the Fiery Lake are like Death Row and Execution Day.
---Gordon on 12/3/10

The Holy Bible is sufficient for reading the details of heaven and hell.
---Eloy on 12/3/10

read some parts of the book, and i must say, the books troubles me. there seems to be no clear reason for this revelation. (i could be wrong however) on the other hand i heard the testimony of the Nigerian pastor who was dead three day, and that one made my hair to stand up. he clearly says that no man can be saved unless through Christ and total abandoning of your self.
---andy3996 on 12/3/10

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Has anyone an opinion about this Korean woman who said Jesus took her to see heaven and hell and describes it in great detail?

my opinion is: LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

hell judgement, has not happened yet
2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment,
---francis on 12/3/10

Candice, You say human beings do not go to the same place as Satan and his fallen angels? Read REVELATION 14:9-11, and then REVELATION 20:10-15. What do these Verses say?
---Gordon on 12/2/10

GOD has taken a Handful of different people to Heaven, to Hell and to the Lake of Fire. Since GOD is not limited by time or space, He can do these things. Some Pastors and Christians scoff at these Visitations because they say that "we have the Bible and GOD just wants us to take His Written Word for it, so, He would not send these people to Hell and back as He wants us to trust (only) His Written Word." While that is true that He wants us to trust in His Scriptures, He also sees many people NOT BELIEVING His Scriptures, and some TWISTING THE MEANING of said Scriptures. So, He lets people have an eye-witness to Heaven and Hell, which in turn, gives people on Earth verification of the Truth of Scriptures and the reality of these places.
---Gordon on 12/2/10

haven't read the article. However the true hell is the grave. not a fire burning hell like churches teach out of ignorence & tradition.After people are put into the first hell (death) when they rise to the ressurection then God will choose where we go either to paradise with al lthe other everlasting life or you are put into the 2nd hell when God destroys the wicked forever! no burning needed. there also is a different defenition between where they send the demons & satan & where they send people.So if she is claiming to see a fire burning hell, it is false.For reading in scriptures the body knows nothing after they cease to live.
---candice on 12/2/10

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If her comments do not contradict the Bible's description of heaven and hell, she probably actually experienced it. This is not new. More and more people are claiming to have been translated to heaven, hell, or both. Even children who have had no prior scripture knowledge,have claimed to have walked and talked with Jesus in heaven and to have seen angels, etc. Remember, what Jesus said would happen during the latter days.
---Zelma_Crawford on 12/2/10

no opinion..good for her!

People would doubt if Jesus was standing right in their faces...if you read in Matthew..there were people at the Mt. of Ascension and doubted.
---melanie on 5/12/08

I do not believe her. There is so much false, crazy, stuff floating around in today's world. Satan is useing a lot of it to ingrain in people doubt and unbelief. And I have to tell you,"don't come too close to me, I may just throw-up all over you".
---catherine on 5/12/08

I do have an opinion about that. Just where in Scripture does it say that Jesus will take someone to Heaven and Hell? I am personally very skeptical of those reports.
---Helen_5378 on 5/10/08

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No, but if He did I am jealous.
---catherine on 7/23/07

Nope and it's because I choose not to.
---Pharisee on 7/23/07

In Joel it says before the great and terrible day of the Lord he will pour out his spirit on the earth. So if this woman's story is true how would we know if she's one of these end times prophets?

Sorry I didn't say her name: Choo Thomas and she has a web site.
---Virginia on 2/12/07

Part 4. Both of which are deceptive, yet leads to intense emotional responses. It is a fire of burning desire that consumes the mind dictate by it sensual perceptions, constantly tormented by a lust to achieve & accumulate the luring passions of the world, resulting in a toiling, frustrated moral compromise, yet never fully satisfied. Nor can be. "Hell & destruction is never full: So the eyes of man are never satisfied." Hell here is enough, no need for the Father to transport us anywhere.
---Josef on 2/10/07

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Part 3 of 4. As far as hell is concerned, other than being a term used biblically for the grave, as the state & place of the non-aware, inanimate bodies & souls of the physically dead, & as a burning garbage dump some were in the middle east. Hell is a mind in bondage to it's carnality. Hell, the discouragement, sorrow & apprehension that grips the soul of man due to a perceived lack or insufficiency, or a fear of lost concerning a perceived abundance. Cont..
---Josef on 2/10/07

Part 2 of 4. I know The Father has given me a superimposed ability to receive comprehensive insight into His method of operation and the ability to interpret life for man as He does. An ability that gives me direction & confidence in the earnest expectation of eternal life. In all this I experience heaven as I know it daily, as the channel thru which His direct divine inspiration flows into my life & mind. I know of no other heaven other than the sky. Cont..
---Josef on 2/10/07

I say what ever she believes to be true, for her is truth. The following is what has been shown me concerning heaven & hell. I know heaven as The Fathers abode. I know He abides within those He has called. John 14:23. I know He will abide within me forever. John 14:16,17. I know that His indwelling presence takes me to a higher level of spiritual awareness and endues me with power. Part 1of 4
---Josef on 2/10/07

Mystical experiences like this are not uncommon.

Whether this was a TRUE mystical experience, that is, one from God, you didn't give enough infomration to tell.

However, I've heard too many people, such as Peter Popoff, relate them to tickle people's ears.
---Jack on 2/10/07

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The bible says' beware of False Prophets.
---Carla5754 on 2/9/07

She dreamt the whole thing after eating a late-night snack of kimchi (fiery fermented cabagge-based staple of Korea, heavily seasoned with ginger, garlic & red pepper).
---Leon on 2/9/07

There are many people who have had sneek previews of the heavenlies. It's becoming more common with children too. I've been there a couple of times and find it ever so wonderful and can hardly wait for it to happen again.
---john on 2/9/07

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