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Why Does God Let Us Suffer

Why does God let us suffer?

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The rain falls on the just and the unjust.
Human beings (no matter their faith or lack thereof) suffer in this life.

The absolute MOST precious truths are to be discovered in suffering (almost never when life is good or uneventful). Perhaps that is why God does not cushion us against all pain and hardship... nor always rescue us at our first whimper.

When we come through, as we always do, we are able to help and witness to those undergoing trials in a way we never could have if we had been spared our suffering.
---Donna66 on 8/26/09

God does NOT cause suffering, He is good ALL the time. We and the devil cause our suffering. The devil is bad ALL the time. We sin, disobey God, and are unforgiving - thus we cause our suffering. God says when you disobey Him and His Word, you call down curses on yourself. When we sin, disobey God, and are unforgiving, we put out the welcome mat and tell Satan and his demons to take control over our lives.
---Leslie on 8/26/09

what does it mean when people say as it lineing up with the word of God give me an example please
---alice on 8/26/09

Some suffer because they reap what they sow.
Some to prove if their love of God is real or feigned.
Anyone can love God in the good times.
Job was real.
---Frank on 4/8/08

When we need to learn a lesson,become stronger in a certain area or when we need to grow up. But he won't forsake us entirely. You do need to know that also. That is a comforting fact when we are suffering. God is so-o-o-o- good.
---Robyn on 4/7/08

Sometimes it is to keep us humble and looking unto God for help:
2co 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

In 2nd Cor 12:10 Paul says he will take pleasure in his infirmities, because when he is weak, then he is strong. - When he is weak then he realizes his true strength is Christ.
---trey on 4/7/08

In Acts 5:41 the disciples rejoiced because they were counted worthy to suffer for Christ's sake.

How many people have bowed their knee and gone to prayer for you because of your suffering. These have drawn closer to God through you.

May the Lord bless you,
---trey on 4/7/08

He allows it to happen so we can learn from it & grow stronger, but he doesn't give us more than we can handle, however we shouldn't blame him for suffering.
---candice on 4/5/08

Better to be taught by suffering than to be taught by sin! God is the potter we are the clay..
---Cynthia on 7/23/07

Jesus spoke so many times in His Word that we must suffer for His namesake. Christ suffered for the sins of the world(1 Peter 2:21-25).He died so He could rebuild the bridge for man to commune with God as He intended, which was destroyed by Adam in the garden. Phillipians 2:5 says, "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus." Jesus knew that His suffering would bring redemption to the world. Our suffering is not for nothing, it will bear fruit in our lives (2 Timothy 2:12,21).
---Sydne7568 on 7/23/07

There are many kinds of suffering and everyone suffers for various reasons.

Some suffer because they're stubborn and still want to be master and commander of all they survey, God leads this one to deeper worship and their suffering is called discipline.

In short we suffer because our world is not in harmony with God, the sharp contrast we feel to what we would have is the realization of what God intends and the very perfection of Heaven revealed to us.
He's listening, will you?
---Pharisee on 7/23/07

Though we may see the darkness of the clouds, but there is always the silver linning in each dark cloud.Through the suffering we all have learn to trust in God, we learn to depend on God, and we also learn just how much we do need God in our lives, that we just can't make it on our own..and if we just hang in there a little longer we will come out it that much stronger
---mary on 3/5/07

jana: Why did Peter tell us this?
1 Peter 4
1Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

2That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
---kathr4453 on 3/2/07

Job was a man that was upright and eschewed evil and Jeremiah was a prophet chosen and ordained of God. Did they suffer through bad choices? Maybe God's ways aren't ours and maybe we do have to "take up our cross" and "endure" unto the end!
Maybe God is glorified by giving us strength to endure sufferings. He said to satan,"hath thou considered my servant Job?"
---Frank on 3/1/07

what made u think that it was God that alowed us to suffer? I dont believe for one moment that God is like that..I believe that He gave us a choice, 2do or not 2do. We suffer thru the bad choices we make. Then later blame God if it wasnt a good choice.
---jana on 3/1/07

Donna6598: kathr4453-Jesus does indeed heal our diseases as well as our sins. Read Psalm 103.
I'm sorry,were you talking about spiritually diseased? I thought you meant physical diseases with your post to me. If you say this is referring to the physical only, with so many Christians who have died of diseases,you've put the responsibility of their healing on the person. Wrong teaching that's hurt many people who've watched love ones die,being blamed that they didn't have enough FAITH or the right kind.
---kathr4453 on 2/21/07

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donna6598: If you agreed with my original post, what was you point in your reply back to me? You do confuse me sometimes.
---kathr4453 on 2/21/07

kathr4453 - I agree with what you are saying, so what's your point? LOL

All I said was read Psalm 103 and you posted all of these scriptures. What is it that I said that you aren't agreeing with that's taken you many posts to express? I agree with you.
---donna6598 on 2/21/07

donna6598: Just as in the apostate church today, many are diseased with false teaching, (spiritually diseased). In one of the letters in Rev to the Churches, Jesus says, Strengthen that which is about to die.
---kathr4453 on 2/21/07

Donna6598 : Were Shepherds responsible for healing DISEASES in Israel?
Ezekiel 34:4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them. 5And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, ..
---kathr4453 on 2/21/07

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Donna6498: Diseased= false doctrine!

Ezekiel 34:16I will seek that which was lost,and bring again that which was driven away,and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.

Behold,I judge between cattle and cattle,between the rams and the he goats.

18Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures?
---kathr4453 on 2/21/07

It is just Safer, to live with Jesus.
---catherine on 2/20/07

God tells us in his word that he will not put anything upon us that we couldn't bare. If we never go through trials and triblulations, then how can we have faith in Christ? We couldn't. God lets us suffer from certain things so we can depend upon him to heal us from the suffering. 2 Cor 1:6, Gal 5:22, 1 Pe 4:13.
---Rebecca_D on 2/20/07

Because he loves us enough to let us have experience and learn and gain wisdom and understanding and knowledge. Job learned, "I have heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now mine eye sees you." Job 42:5. The best ministers to people who are suffering are the ministers who they themselves have suffered. Please read Hebrews 4:15.
---Eloy on 2/20/07

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We are at war-Good against evil; the Spirit vs the flesh; we require tempering and conditioning. Some are on the front lines, some on the back. You'll know where your faith is when tried by fire. Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. I believe the closer you are to Christ and the more you let your light shine, then the more you'll be dis'd by the enemy and the more you'll suffer persecution. Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but YHWH saves him out of them all.
---Eloy on 2/20/07

All who live a godly life in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. It is to see his almighty power. Job said, I have heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you. Therefore I despise, and abase in dust and ashes. We know God, that he has the power to heal because he has healed us; or what better way to know that he can save, unless we need saving; or that he is able to destroy all our enemies, unless we are oppressed and struck by them.
---Eloy on 2/20/07

Satan wrongly proclaimed that Job loved God only because God was blessing him, and if God would let him give Job some hell then Job would not love God anymore. So God knowing that Job loved him no matter what, directed Satan to give his beloved Job some hell: Satan killed all his kids, gave him a horrible disease, and turned his wife and friends against him.
---Eloy on 2/20/07

Job told God, "My days not few? Cease, let me alone, that I may take comfort a little before I go, I will not return, to the land of darkness and the shadow of death." Job 10:20,21. "And YHWH turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also YHWH gave Job twice as much as he had before." Job 42:10. Please read James 5:10,11.
---Eloy on 2/20/07

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kathr4453 - Jesus does indeed heal our diseases as well as our sins. Read Psalm 103.

1 Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. 2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: 3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
---donna6598 on 2/20/07

Healing, physically, is included with salvation. The word salvation comes from a word, Soteria, which means,'healing, deliverance, safety, welfare, prosperity'. Healing is part of the God-kind of life.
---Rickey on 2/18/07

1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

1st Peter 2:24 has to do with SIN.
---kathr4453 on 2/17/07

Does Scripture support the doctrine that at the cross Christ took upon Himself our diseases to the effect that if a Christian ***conjures up enough faith or the right faith-formula**** the reality of Christ's work on the cross will be invoked and he will be healed of physical afflictions?

Why would the same Blood have different rules? We don't have to ***conjures up enough faith or the right faith-formula**** for forgivness.
---kathr4453 on 2/17/07

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Ricky, Jesus died for our sin, not our diseases. It is well worth debating. It's false doctrine. It's by God's Grace and Mercy that He chooses to heal whom He will. That is not the case with forgivness. Those who believe and put their faith in Jesus Christ are forgiven...just like that. He imputed to those His righteousness. Your inclusion of total healing seems to have a different set of rules. Why wouldn't that be instant too...imputed health? Sorry, it's just not in scripture!
---kathr4453 on 2/16/07

Jesus drew the line when He was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisment of our peace was upon, with His stripe we were healed. Aging comes. The bible talks about it. But sickness doesn't have to come with it. Jesus paid for our healing. Why debate? Let's just take what Jesus paid for us to have.(Psalm 103:3)
---Rickey on 2/16/07

I Peter 2:24 has to do with physical healing. Jesus took 39-lashes. 1 for every class of sickness. He paid the price for us to be healed physically. Sin isn't a sickness. Jesus, the apostles, etc. went around healing folks. He hasn't changed.(Acts 10:38) I believe that God is still a healer because I see it in the word & in folks' lives.(Psalm 103:3; 3 John2; Matthew 8:17)
---Rickey on 2/16/07

Jesus paid for sickness. Question, is Jesus a respector of persons? Is Jesus still the same as He was then now? Didn't He heal then? Notice the folks that He healed then were sinners. They weren't heirs of God & joint heirs with Christ like we are.(Romans 8:17; Galatians 4:7) They simply used their faith & got healed. We have a right to be healed as heirs of God. Everything that belongs to God belongs to us. He is Jehovah Rapha, the Lord Who heals. Since healing is His healing is our's.
---Rickey on 2/16/07

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No, if so then God wouldn't require our faith. Too many folks depend on God to do all of the work & won't do their own part. Healing, for instance, God requires us to not only believe, but to act on our faith by the words of our mouth. Too many folks, think in their mind that God it's His will for healing, but in their heart don't believe it. It's nice to quote a scripture, but it's better to have it in your heart 1st.
---Rickey on 2/16/07

1 : progressive deterioration of physical characters from a level representing the norm of earlier generations or forms
2 : deterioration of a tissue or an organ in which its function is diminished or its structure is impaired

Ricky, all mankind is born with the degenerative disease of aging.

So where do you draw the line with one disease vs another?
---kathr4453 on 2/16/07

Ricky, Do you believe Christians who are sick or born with some defect, become instantly healed the moment they get saved? By His stripes we are healed has to do with Jesus taking our SIN upon Him. However our fallen flesh , our physical bodies, are still under the sentence of sin. We will receive New Glorified bodies at the return of Jesus Christ, or at the 1st Resurrection. We along with this world still grown within ourselves waiting this wonderful day. Romans 8.
---kathr4453 on 2/16/07

I've never understood what you all mean when you say He took our sickness. Have you ever had a cold, flu, diarraeah, headache, since you got saved. Are you getting wrinkles, gray hair? If Jesus took the effects of our physical of the fall of man upon him, we would never die. Never grow old. Jesus took our sin. Our old adam nature is now crucified with Christ, not restored back to what it was before adam sinned. The earth too is suffering physically. But also awaits the New Heaven and earth. Romans 8
---kathr4453 on 2/16/07

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Rick D, I feel yah, but I know that God definitely doesn't put sickness on you to humble or anything. Jesus paid the price for us to be healed.(1Peter 2:24) I was healed of liver & kidney failure. I know that God can't put sickness on a person. Holdfast your confession of faith & continue to layhold on the promises of God.
---Rickey on 2/15/07

While suffering greatly over a very painful situation, I wrote this poem years ago.

If I had an earthly father who loved me, I would have never known I had a Heavenly Father who adored me.
If I had never suffered loss, I would have never received grace, mercy, and peace in time of trouble.
If I had never shed a tear, I wouldn't have known Jesus could "wipe away every teardrop" and make all things new.
I think I'm running out of space.
---donna6598 on 2/15/07

Yes Josef...AMEN!
Those who suffer with Him will also be Glorified together with Him!

That I may KNOW Him and the fellowship of His suffering, being made conformable to His death that I may attain to the resurrection.
---kathr4453 on 2/14/07

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---Carla5754 on 2/14/07

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* Because of Christ what little we do suffer we should be satisfied that our suffering puts us in a unique and a divine status worthy of pleasure for his sake.
---Carla5754 on 2/14/07

To serve is to suffer as Christ did but you'll find in the western world we may not necessarily suffer as did the Apostles/Missionaries/Bible Translators and Authors etc knew and endured suffering for the gospel sake. Ours can be very relative to our own individual situations and the not suffering that we should be suffering or else because of Christ we would be satisfied that our suffering would place us in a unique position of a divine status and worthy of that pleasue.
---Carla5754 on 2/14/07

So relatively speaking we haven't got a clue what suffering is really about or we would count it all joy, when things go wrong knowing God would never give us more than we could bare, more over what we have brought sufferings upon ourselves through disobedience and that God no part, we did it to ourselves. For men to live for Christ to die is Gain, to hold his hand and walk This narrow lane. There is no peace no joy, no thrill, like walking in his will, for me to live, For Christ to die is Gain.
---Carla5754 on 2/14/07

Catherine; Not all cops are wicked. My husband is a Police Officer as well as a Preacher. So how could people control the mental people better? Grant it chains in a bit much, but even the news don't know the full story. The Government isn't going to have a fear of God because over half of them aren't Christians.
---Rebecca_D on 2/14/07

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Why does God let us suffer?
For His name's sake, that we may be glorified together with Him. This suffering can not be compared to the glory that shall be revealed in us, for the earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of God. As we are partakers of the sufferings, so also of the consolation. We who are alive are always delivered unto death for Jesus sake, that the life of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal character. All things work together for our good.
---josef on 2/14/07

ben, sin in our lives takes us out of relationship with God,so we suffer. we were created to be in relationship with God,if were arent then we suffer. thats why jesus came and died for us so we could once again have relationship with the long as sin is in the world we will suffer.the just the unjust,the righteous,the un righteous,we all suffer because of sin.
---tom2 on 2/13/07

Catherine, how does our country being run by "morones" follow logically from your watching a TV show about a man kept in chains?
---Jack on 2/13/07

brene 7657 said: God doesn't let us suffer. God allowed us to make a choice - suffering comes from our own actions.

That is a load of bumpf! I have fibromyalgia, and I suffer daily. If I posted the list of meds that I am taking it would use all 85 words and then some. God allows us to suffer--sometimes to humble us, sometimes to toughen us up (con't)
---Rick_D on 2/13/07

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#2 but it is always for His reasons! People that say that God doesn't allow suffering, and that if you just had faith you would be healed give me a big pain. I have prayed. I have gone to the elders of my church to be anointed. Don't tell me I don't have enough faith. That is a trap and a snare of Satan, as it will lead to despair and depression. (Con't)
---Rick_D on 2/13/07

#3 If Satan can get us to despair, then he has won. Even though I am in pain all the time I refuse to despair. God has done this for His reasons, and I will continue to praise Him in the midst of my pain
---Rick_D on 2/13/07

If you have not done any suffering for righteous sake, then you have done nothing=== for God.
---catherine on 2/13/07

1 Peter 4
1Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

2That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
---kathr4453 on 2/13/07

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Perhape, God lets us suffer so we can help other people that suffers. I watched on 60 minutes Sunday night, about this mental patient who was in jail, and how He was kept in CHAINS, they claimed, so He would not hurt Himself or someone else. He died. OUR nation is being run by morones, who absoluely has no FEAR OF GOD, It is not only the Christians that is going to suffer, if something is not done about wicked cops.
---catherine on 2/13/07

God doesn't let us suffer. God allowed us to make a choice - suffering comes from our own actions. So you ask what about cancer - God hurts when things are not well with us. He crys with us. He also laugh with us and have joy when we are happy. God loves us.
---brene7657 on 2/12/07

ben, why did God allow his son to suffer?why when you hit your finger or bump your funny bone do you suffer?why do the trials and family issues ,and relationships cause suffering?sin. theres sin in the world.once sin has been destroyed completely we will have new perfect bodies and scripture tells us god will wipe away all our tears.but along as we live in the world and sin is still with us we WILL SUFFER, not because of God.but because of sin.
---tom2 on 2/12/07

Paul wrote "I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church."

Isn't is wonderful how our suffering can help the other members of the body. The Lord is so good.
---augusta on 2/12/07

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One thing suffering does to us is draw us closer to God. If I had never suffered physical or emotional pain, I would have never experienced God's deep healing power.

The Psalmist writes about it in Psalm 119.

Ps 119:71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.

Ps 119:50 This is my comfort in my affliction: for thy word hath quickened me.

Ps 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.
---donna6598 on 2/12/07

No scripture in the bible says "He will never put more on us than we can bear". Suffering, in context, doesn't mean 'loss of stuff'. It refers to persecution.
---Rickey on 2/12/07

God allows us to suffer, so we can grow & mature in God.
---Leslie on 2/12/07

First, always take your concerns to the Lord in prayer. He will answer you in due time. My thoughts are: suffering is good for us. It teaches us to be strong and endure and it teaches us the lesson we need to learn, at that time. We dont like to suffer, no one does, but if we do not become bitter we will become better.
God blesses us through suffering, too.
---robyn on 2/12/07

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in job case it was to bless him even more.
as i've seen through out my life that in most of our cases (98%) is because that is the only time we actually remember that he is still there.
but nevertheless there are cases that has nothing to do with God, but on our own bad choices in life.
---Rick on 2/12/07

in job case it was to bless him even more.
i've seen through out my life that in most of our cases (98%) is because that is the only time we actually remember that he is still there.
but nevertheless there are cases that has nothing to do with God, but on our own bad choices in life.
remember in christ we have the freedom to choose if we choose wrong well.
as christians we always need to remmeber that when we are going to make desitions we need to first consult the creator for guidence.
---Rick on 2/12/07

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