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Mitt Romney For President

Should Christians vote for Mitt Romney since he is of the moron faith or could Mitt Romney be a good President because he is maybe more moral than the other candidates?

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Frequently in an election, none of the candidates really is ideal, so one has to vote for the least objectionable of the choices.
---Jack on 8/21/07

Mitt's down in the pits, I mean, down in the polls. Last night, they said he had about ten percent of the vote.
Talking heads said, that they polled Christians, and they will not vote for Mitt.
"Christians do not trust Mitt."
Too much Moron-i = Bologn-i.
---Sharon on 3/20/07


Romans 6
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Galatians 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

21I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

49And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
---kathr4453 on 3/14/07


51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52In a moment,in the twinkling of an eye,at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

We put on Jesus Christ! Christ in you, and You in Christ!
---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

Dave...I know many men in high positions in casinos in Vegas who have "temple recommends" so that means nothing whatsoever. One of Nevadas top legislatures just went through a problem where a woman accused him of harrassing and groping her after a night on the town drinking. It was noted in the newspaper articles that he has "temple recommend". His wife mentioned that she knew he did this sort of thing but that they had their own separate social lives.
---Susie on 3/14/07

Dave....Temple recommends are handed out more on financial contributions than anything else. My father had mistresses and the church knew. He supported the church financially and was never confronted. When he became involved with a daughter of one of the Ward officials, he was "silenced" for a time and later allowed to function in his priesthood office. The mistress situation happens all over Utah, Nevada and Arizona. You can't tell me that they don't practice polygamy anymore!
---Susie on 3/14/07

Elder: read Isaiah 82:1, John 10:34-36 and Acts 17:29 in the KJV of the bible. they all say we are offspring of Gods, Jesus said unto the people are ye not God's? are we not to become perfect as He is perfect? In the garden, did not God say "We will cast adam out of the garden before he could eat of the fruit again and become as one of us.? All biblical and straightforward. Read it for yourself. You cannot dispute God's words in the bible.
---Dave on 3/14/07

Why is it that even when I show hundreds of scriptures to back up everything I say, people still wear blinders and continue to say the same things they keep saying. I guess we can just throw away the bible because it is obvious to me, people will only see what they want to see and reject anything contrary to what they believe. For example Rev. 12:7-9 talks of the war in heaven. Rev 12:4 tells us one third of the hosts of heaven were cast out with him. How can you dispute it. it is scripture.
---Dave on 3/14/07

Kathy: I had agreed with everything you said until you contradicted yourself in the first line of blog 4. Why? Do you not believe in your own bible or do you place your faith and trust in the teachings of man over God. The scriptures are so clear, yet so many only see what they want to see. It is no wonder there are hundreds of churches, all teaching different things. There is only one bible and one doctrine of God, which is truth. Jesus said: I am the way, the truth and the Light.
---Dave on 3/14/07

Dave nothing you have said is truth. I've asked you before are you going to be a god?
And further CN didn't try to make a joke or slander anyone with the Moron name. You know they also have a couple of humans working for them that make mistakes.
---Elder on 3/14/07

Dave #1
Hebrews 1:1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

Dave #2
4Being made so much better than the angels,as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5For unto which of the angels said he at any time,Thou art my Son,this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world,he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7And of the angels he saith,Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

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Dave #3

8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

Dave #4

1st Corinthians 15:44

It(we)is sown a natural body;it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a Life Giving spirit.

46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual,but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

Dave #5
There are no pre-existing spirits to take hold of your body. Our Life is gives to us by Jesus Christ. Our Life is IN CHRIST.
We are bone of His Bone and Flesh of His Flesh. HE gave us that New Life. We receive that NEW life at Calvary. Washed in His Blood for the Forgivness of sin, crucified with Him, and raised up with Him a New Creation. Romans 8:11-13 KJV Paul said at that time we are a "NEW CREATION IN CHRIST".
---kathr4453 on 3/14/07

Lucifer isn't Jesus' brother, because God sent his only begotten son. Where in Jude and Revelations does it say what you claim?
---Rebecca_D on 3/13/07

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Kathy, I will try to clarify this. Jesus was Lucifers brother because everyone and everything was created spiritually before it was created in the world. As spirits,Jesus told His Father he would glorify Him by atoning for our sins or mistakes. Satan wanted to force everyone to be righteous and was cast out. It is biblical in Jude and Rev. Satan will never have a body of flesh and bones as we have.
---Dave on 3/13/07

Jesus came to earth, suffered in the garden, died on the cross, was resurrected and broke the bonds of death. He is the way, the truth and the light, No one can come unto the Father but by Him. There are many scriptures that say we shall return to God who sent us, you cannot return to a place you have never been.
---Dave on 3/13/07

Also you did not miraculously appear out of nothing at birth. life is the uniting of our body and spirit, also known as our soul. The gospel is so simple, but many complicate it and let carnal devilish man corrupt it by introducing their own views and doctrines. you see that in churches all over. many teach different doctrines. why, there is only one bible. there is a blog on here now called what are angels. non members talk about the war in heaven between Lucifer and Jesus. why, if it doesn't exist.
---Dave on 3/13/07

Susie, I agree with you. You are right, we do not know what is in a persons life. As an ex-member of the church, you will know that the first question you ask of Mr. Romney is, Does he hold a temple recommend? you know he is honest if he does. You know that every member cannot get one, unless they live Christ's example in their lives. If they lie to get one, God will judge them harshly and hold them responsible for their acts. God will not be mocked. You know that, if you entered the temple yourself.
---Dave on 3/13/07

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If we truly knew what any of the candidates did in secret we would be shocked. God knows and He will judge. Many powerful men have had only one wife, yet had mistresses on the side. This is no different than polygamy.
---Susie on 3/13/07

Dave:I don't understand your Gospel. How can you have a Gospel without the Blood? If your jesus is satan's brother he has no blood. Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgivness of sin. What are you basing your forgivness on. Good Works? Jesus didn't die on a cross so we can live good works. Jesus came to redeem man, not be a good works example. He died and rose again for a reason. We are justified by His Blood and saved by His risen life. We are raised up with Him, a New Creation, In Christ only.
---kathr4453 on 3/13/07

Kathy: I apologize if I twisted your words. Am I perfect and have no sin, NO "if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." We repent daily, pray and study the scriptures often, so we can overcome satan. I was pointing out that many condemn us for living the gospel of Jesus Christ. what ever happened to "by their fruits ye shall know them?" We believe Jesus was resurrected and guides us today, not just 2000 years ago in the bible.
---Dave on 3/13/07

Dave: You are a Mormon..I am not. Our understanding of salvation is not the same. You also have a cute way of twisting my words. You accuse us of our sin, and brag about your perfection. Your perfection comes when you become a "White Mormon". * ALL *have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Our sins are open to be seen. You pretend you have none. I say, your sin is what you do in secret....yes! Your sin is not hidden from God.
---kathr4453 on 3/12/07

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Kathy: I cannot believe I just read what you said. Talk about hyposcrisy in the highest regard. You say you would rather live your life in sin and surrounded by those walking in darkness, yet you want to live in that "sqeeky clean" environment after you die. you cannot have it both ways. The savior said you are either with me or against me. there is no in between. Like I said You deserve what you get. Don't complain when you lose your freedom and the Savior says to you, Depart I never knew thee.
---Dave on 3/12/07

Bob, just what do you all do in secret? At least our sin is open for all to see.

Ephesians 5: 11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

12For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

13But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
---kathr4453 on 3/12/07

**You will only have yourself to blame**
Gee Dave, If Romney looses the election just because of me....Well, that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me.

Our Bible said Jesus came to save "SINNERS", not nations. As long as we have sinners their's hope. If we all become squeeky clean Mormons...all hope is lost...for the human race, unless your suggesting we all become "White Mormons" to achieve our sinless perfection. Is that what you are proposing?
---kathr4453 on 3/11/07

Dave: If God should turn his back on America, it's because America has turned their back on the ONLY TRUE Son of the Living God, Jesus Christ, by the way ,is not the brother of angel. Only the Blood of Jesus Christ can wash away sin. Angels don't have blood. Your Jesus cannot save anyone! Mixed marriages will bring doom to this country, just as in the days of NOAH. We don't MIX one Jesus with another to get a hybrid.
---kathr4453 on 3/11/07

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Dave #2
You all are the one pulling out the Religious card using the Moral Majority approach. Seems the only good thing anyone can say about Romney is that he has one wife. WOW! Many wonderful Born Again Christians (not mormons) ALSO have one wife, are wonderful husbands and fathers. They also know The Lord our God is ONE..The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Not a new one on this side of the world.
---kathr4453 on 3/11/07

you want a person who is honest and has integrity. The last president that had both qualities was Ronald Reagan and some born again bozo tried to assassinate him. He did what he said he would do. The president should have a strong belief in Jesus Christ and His teachings, not the teachings of man. God is placed first in life and not taken out of society, as we have seen lately. In God we Trust, but many forget that. You should judge a man according to his works, just as everyone will be judged by God.
---Dave on 3/11/07

The blog is not asking about his beliefs. It asks if a man who is moral, God-fearing and honest should be elected president. Past men put themselves before the nation and forgot they were elected to glorify God and lead by example in righteousness. They were easily influenced by evil people. They took God out of society and gave satan dominion over many things. Is that what people really want, instead of a man that will lead by the example of Jesus Christ.
---Dave on 3/11/07

Mormons believe: Since the resurrection of Jesus Christ, some angels have been "resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones" (D&C 129:1). The Prophet Joseph Smith indicated that resurrected angels have advanced further in light and glory than spirits (TPJS, p. 325). Such are the beings who have been instrumental in the restoration of the gospel in the dispensation of the fulness of times.

As in the days of NOAH? Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
---kathr4453 on 3/11/07

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Genesis 6:1: And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2That the sons of God (fallen angels??) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Now that's funny in a quirky way!!!
---kathr4453 on 3/11/07

Kathy, I understand why the U.S. no longer has God as its leader. when you make fun of Jesus Christ and men devoted to glorifying His name and not their own selfishness, you deserve what you get. The nation under born again men is now evil and corrupt. why: honest men are not given a chance to shine. You are mocking the only man who truly follows Jesus Christ completely, not in name only. one day soon, God will turn his back on the citizens living in the U.S. too. You will only have yourself to blame.
---Dave on 3/10/07

Its funny in a quirky way, but the other 'front runners' in the Rep. party have all been married 2 or 3 times. The Mormon is the only one who has only had one wife!
---NVBarbara on 3/10/07

It shows how evil a nation has become, when they judge a man for his belief in the Savior. A man who believes in morals, good values, the sanctity of families and living in harmony with Jesus Christ. If Romney were president, troops would fight for liberty, God would be put first, as it was for two hundred years. criminals would be punished, not the victims. that is what you want in a president, is someone with a strong moral character, not someone who professes God and then ignors Him.
---Dave on 3/10/07

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We now live in a tail wags the dog society. if our forefathers could see how the looney left have destroyed everything they fought for and stood for, they would turn in their graves. the adage states,if it is not broken don't fix it, but many ignor that rule. we now have no prayer in schools, the nation is compared to sodom and gomorah for idolatry, evil practises, etc. Americans are now hated world wide. God is taken out of society. if that is progress, it is for satan's glory, not Gods.
---Dave on 3/10/07

Well, If Christians won't mind saying:

One Nation Under Kolob,
Without Liberty,
And secret underwear for all.

Christians Should NOT vote for Mitt Romney.
Alians from another planet (KOLOB) should have nothing to do with the affairs of humans on planet earth.
---kathr4453 on 3/10/07

I agree with Susie and Barbara, it is not funny. I choose to believe it was a typographical error on both blogs where it appears.
---AlwaysOn on 3/9/07

Right Susie it isn't funny. Perhaps Mackey was copying the question that the Mod posted with that spelling. BOTH wrong!
---NVBarbara on 3/9/07

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It is obvious that the use of "moron" is supposed to be funny. But, I don't think it is funny. Mormons are, for the most part, not stupid, they are just mislead by false prophets. Romney is not a moron, but is deceived. If he can be deceived by false doctrine, what else could he be deceived by??? As far as morals, most politicians are lacking in that area.
---Susie on 3/9/07

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