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Doctrine Of The Trinity

This guy was telling me that the doctrine of the trinity is not in the Bible and I am believing a lie. I looked and could not find trinity in my concordance. The trinity is a core doctrine of Christianity. So, how can it not be in the Word of God?

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Scott Jesus also says the He and the Father are one. And it has been agreed that He is one with the Father uniquely, being the Son, uncreated and of the one substance with the Father. No man or angel can claim that.

He told His apostles that seeing Him was seeing the Father. For a man or an angel this would be blasphemy, but not for Jesus.

He told His enemies He was the 'I am' the name of God, and they wanted to kill Him for blasphemy because no man or angel can claim that.

When Jesus said the Father is greater than He Scripture uses the Greek 'meizon, which means greater in position.' He did not use the Greek 'kreitton' which means better. Jesus took upon Himself the role of servant, submitting himself to the Father.
---Warwick on 7/26/10

In the beginning three beings that makes up one deity created the heaven and the earth.

call that i am polytheist, and I will say, does not bother me.
---akajoseph on 7/26/10

How is it that, if equal, the glorified Son of God will be subject to the Father in heaven?

"When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all." 1 Cor 15:27, 28
---scott on 7/26/10

Genesis 1:1 Elohim- Careful. This is what's called the 'plural of majesty'. If taken literally as a plural, Elohim suggests, not three persons in one, but multiple Gods, polytheism.

"When Jesus said in the gospel of John that the Father is greater than I he gave us a hint of the divine nature of Elohim.

No, this is eisegesis. He simply said that the Father is greater than him. He also referred to the Father as his God, after his resurrection to heaven. (Rev 3:12)

"Jesus is God the Son from eternity."

Words found nowhere in the God's inspired word.
---scott on 7/26/10

I agree only because we are for warned by God that the darkness can not conprehend light.
However-To my understanding the word of the adversary only IMITATES truth-but can NOT CREATE IT.
God is Spirit-He spoke Words-and to Those in covenant relation-He is Father:
One God-Tri in unity.
The adversary can only bring a word instead of the Word of God by imatation. In doing so he is the director of false gods.To my understanding this is the history of the Tower of Babel.
The Babylonian form of the false god Baal is Bel.
False god-deity=
1.Anu-god of the Heavens
2.bel-god of the earth
3.ea-god of the waters
Satans-imatation of Yehovah.
---char on 7/26/10

Try the description of Godhead .colossians chapter one. How about Genesis 1:1 right off the starting block our God Elohim describes Himself as the tri-une God. Elohim in the hebrew is a singular plurality,meaning more than one. When Jesus said in the gospel of John that the Father is greater than I he gave us a hint of the divine nature of Elohim. Jesus also said He would go away and He would send the Comforter. God the Holy Spirit.Who is also mentioned in Genesis 1:2 & Rev 22:17 Jesus is God the Son from eternity He became Jesus the Christ (messiah) sent by the Father also known as the Son of man. at the incarnation.
---greg on 7/25/10

Cliff the OT says God is Creator. The NT says Jesus Christ is Creator.

Do we have a contradiction or is it not that Almighty God and our Lord Jesus are one and the same God?

You may say John 1:3 says everything was made 'through' Jesus, therefore he was but a 'conduit' through whom God created-doesn't work as Romans 11:36, and Hebrews 2:10 say everything was made 'through' God. If 'through' in John 1:3 means Jesus was not the Creator God then Romans and Hebrews mean God wasn't Creator either!

However Colossians 1:15-16 proves every created thing, in heaven or earth, was created by the Lord Jesus. He therefore is Almighty God, the Creator. Obviously not created, as some would have us believe.
---Warwick on 7/25/10

The triune god head is a Man - made fictitious
conception idea from the devil that Is here Prov.14 v 12, Matt.15 v's 9 & 14, Mark 7 v 7 & 9, came from here 2nd.Cor.4 v 4 & 11 v's 14 - 15.

The devil has Blinded so many people with the lies of the triune g - head since the trin rcc.
For b r o a d is the way that leads to destruction ( hell ) & be many to go in thereat.
---Lawrence on 7/24/10

The 'trinity' is a core doctrine of man. God has revealed Himself to us as the Father, Son and Holy SPirit but this is not all that God is. The magnitude of God is beyond our comprehension. If God is only the Father, Son and Spirit than why does the bible teach there are seven spirits of God? Be careful not to believe in doctrines that put GOd in a box, like the doctrine of the trinity.
---Ryan on 8/13/07

tallola; How about Jn.14? "If you've seen Me you have seen the Father" ? He is the Immage of the Father "No man has seen God at any time!"Jn.1.18. Jn.1.1 there are 2 Gods metioned here (look at a Greek interliniar) Theos and hoTheos! I'll go on if you want me to!
---1st_cliff on 3/22/07

Dave on 3/21/07
Well if you are reading a Bible that says that God is a person there is no wonder you are confused. Num 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie" Hos 11:9 "for I am God and not man. Yes Jesus let Thomas touch His hand... after he had went to the Father, and then returned. Jn 20:17-29 Oh by the way it was Jesus who said in Jn 4:24 "God is a Spirit..."
---MARK on 3/21/07

1st cliff,
Wow, I dont think that I have ever heard someone try to explain away scripture like you just did in your response to David. So, if you didnt like Davids scriptures for Jesus being God manifest in flesh how about John 14 or John 1. Ill go on if you want me to.
---talloola on 3/21/07

I cited many scriptures. You chose one to rationalize through your philosophy and anecdotal evidence. Your counter argument is lacking because it is based on your experience not anything remotely Biblical. There are several more scriptures there and they are simply the tip of the iceberg.

Accusing people of corrupting scripture is a serious matter.
---David on 3/21/07


And by the way. In the Old Testament the sacrifice God provided was not called the savior. It was provision or sacrifice. Your argument ranks Jesus no higher than an animal to be slain. The shepherd laid down His life for the sheep and took it up again three days later (John 10). There is one savior. God is that savior. That savior is Jesus Christ.
---David on 3/21/07


Sorry. That post regarding corrupting of scripture was not for you it was for cliff please disregard.
---David on 3/21/07

---Dave on 3/21/07

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
---Exzucuh on 3/21/07

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David; It's corruption of scripture that causes all kinds of erroneous thinking.You cite Jn.2o.28 as proof that Jesus is (the God) because Thomas said "my Lord and my God" Half the people I know say "O my god" when taken aback>this is proof? Also God (father) as saviour, He "provided" His Son (Jn.3.16) that makes Him also "saviour" With all your knowledge get "understanding"
---1st_cliff on 3/21/07

There are many scriptures in the bible that say Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are separate people. Only Jesus was born in the flesh. To say God is a spirit denies the bible. Jesus let His apostles feel His hands and feet after His resurrection. The resurrection is the reuniting of our spirit with our body. Fact. Everyone will be resurrected. Not with a mortal body, but with one of immortality. That is the only way you live forever. To preach any other gospel than that is false doctrine.
---Dave on 3/21/07

I think the confusion starts from the idea that there are three (persons) in the Godhead. "God is a spirit" Jn 4:24 Jesus speaking. Jesus is 1/2 Gods dna and 1/2 human dna yet he is fully God and man. and the fully man part is the only person in the Godhead. The Holy Spirit is a dispensation of Gods Spirit into man.
---MARK on 3/21/07

=2= Titus 1:4; 2:13; 3:6 and of course in 2 Peter 1:1, 11; 2:20 and 3:18. The conclusion can only be the same as it is for all the major attributes or actions of God the Father; His being Creator, Savior and the only One to be worshiped, yet so is the Word, who became flesh as Jesus the Christ! Though separate 'persons' (or consciousnesses) as John 1:1; 17:5 clearly reveal, both must be God; along with the Spirit. Much of The Revelation of Jesus Christ to John, [cont.]
---danie9374 on 3/21/07

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=3= that's the Book of Revelation, is like an album of praise and worship songs to and for the Lamb, Jesus Christ! The Father Himself commands all the angels to worship Jesus (Hebrews 1:6 for example), yet to do so for anyone but God was commanded to Israel as blasphemy (Exodus 34:14; Matthew 4:10; Luke 4:8). Anyone who does not accept these three simultaneous existing 'persons' (Father, Son and Spirit) as the One true God can no longer plead ignorance of Scripture. This is revealed truth.
---danie9374 on 3/21/07

=1= David: Thanks for the passages on God being our Savior, so for Jesus to be the Savior also, it means He must have the same nature as God; and they cannot be separated as some here think they can do! A few of the 'salvation' passages in the OT do speak only of an historical physical salvation, but when taken together as a whole, the point of say Isaiah 45:21 and then all the passages in the New Testament on Jesus being our Savior, such as John 4:42; 1 Tim. 1:1,10; 2 Tim. 1:10 [cont.]
---danie9374 on 3/21/07

Whether you are moved or not is not my responsibility that is between you and God. You may choose to believe whatever you wish to believe. As for being raised on this debate that is of little concern to me. What concerns me is scriptural accuracy and the well being of those who are young in the faith whom your doctrines may harm. You seem convinced that everyone on this forum who disagrees with you is condemned because you THINK they deny the Son. What you think about my salvation does not concern me.
---David on 3/20/07

If you think your constant argument will somehow move me or anyone else for that matter where the deity of Jesus Christ is concerned you are mistaken. I separated myself from man made doctrines years ago when I began the process of conversion as a one on one experience with God not a denomination. I understand your point of view and I understand why you believe what you believe but it still contradicts scripture.
---David on 3/20/07

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Jesus is Everlasting Father(Isaiah 9:6),Alpha and Omega (Revelation 1:8), The First and The Last (Revelation 1:17), Mighty God (Isaiah 9:6) Lord and God (John 20:28)The true God (1 John 5:20) The God of the Whole earth (Isaiah 54:5) God manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16) I AM (John 8:58) God (John 1:1-14, Isaiah 40:3, Hebrews 1:8) Emmanuel, God with us (Matthew 1:23) Creator of all things (Colossians 1:16).
---David on 3/20/07

I am sure you have a careful albeit entirely vainly philosophical and erroneous argument (Col 2:89)to refute these scriptures which clearly show the deity of Jesus. An exercise in futility I assure you. Such conclusions will be based solely on your private interpretation. The people on this forum are savvy enough and have enough understanding to realize that the doctrine you teach is erroneous.
---David on 3/20/07

The sonship began when Jesus was begotten of God
coming forth a reproduction of himself just as any son is a reproduction of their Father he was the image of God just as Seth son of Adam was his image.

Genesis 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
---Exzucuh on 3/20/07

If you think that your constant argument will move me or cause me to stumble you are wrong I was raised on this God head Argument some of my family believed your jesus god doctrine and some of them believed your trinity, I saw division and hatred because of these two doctrines made from man, many years I would not go to church because of this schism,But I am thankful to God through his Holy Spirit he opened my eyes to his truth of the Father and the Son.
---Exzucuh on 3/20/07

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First, You still have not directly addressed part 4 of my last set posts which contains a direct question. Second, I have given no theory only what is evident in scripture. Third, I have not denied the Son or the Father. You misunderstand. The sonship of Jesus Christ began when the Word of God became flesh (John 1) That very same Word that became flesh is also God. He is Son of God according to the flesh very God according to the Spirit.
---David on 3/20/07


I am not antichrist. Surely discernment would allow you to see that. I have in no way denied that the Father sent His only begotten son to save us from our sins. You limit God to what you can comprehend and think is rational by confining Him to these boxes which rob the Lord Jesus of His Godhood. If you believe that scripture teaches God is omnipotent and it does, why is it so hard to see that Jesus had both a human and divine nature?
---David on 3/20/07

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

If you do not believe God the the Father sent his Son Jesus into the World, believing on the Father and the Son you are antichrist and you cannot be saved without the doctrine of the Father and the Son because you are denying their existence. And have made a Jesus God that is neither Father or Son.
---Exzucuh on 3/20/07

Part One
Isaiah 43:3 For I [am] the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt [for] thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.

Hosea 14:3 Yet I [am] the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for [there is] no saviour beside me.

1 Timothy 2:3 For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 4:10 ...we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
---David on 3/20/07

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Part 2
Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Peter 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace, and [in] the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him [be] glory both now and for ever. Amen.
---David on 3/20/07

Part three

In part one you will notice three passages that refer to God as savior. The second one refers to God as both the savior and the Holy One of Israel a title which is also used in reference to the Messiah. The passage from Hosea states specifically for [there is] no saviour beside me 1 Timothy 4:10 states that God is the savior of all men, specially those that believe.
---David on 3/20/07

Part four

In part two you see three passages which refer to Jesus Christ as the Savior. If God is the only Savior how can Jesus Christ also be the Savior? The answer is simple Jesus is GodFor those of you who see a separation in God you would also be careful to note that God the Father in the Old Testament called Himself and His only begotten Son THE HOLY ONE and SAVIOR. There is not a plurality of Holy Ones, Saviors or persons. There is only ONE.
---David on 3/20/07

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

If this makes Jesus the Father by your understanding of the scripture and it makes him God Alone and there is no other.
---Exzucuh on 3/19/07

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Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Then according to your understanding this Scripture means I can be Jesus. If I obtain the Fulness of Christ in my Body. And I alone will be Jesus, as according to your understanding
---Exzucuh on 3/19/07

Eloy are you a very old man, I have found that you can not understand any thing I write, And I find it very frustrating because you take what I say and turn it into something else. I believe in One God the Father and I believe Jesus is his Son, and that is what a person must believe to be saved, men would have us to believe in Godhead doctrines they are Idols conceived in Men's minds that they worship rather than God
because men love knowledge and not truth.
---Exzucuh on 3/19/07

Jesus describes what the Trinity is in the gospel of John, but He doesn't say, "pay special attention to this passage because I am describing the Trinity." Why is that? Because the Trinity is revealed, not taught. The carnal mind cannot understand the Trinity, that's why you need the Holy Spirit to REVEAL it to you. Stop trying to explain the Trinity with your carnal mind. Believe it and then the Lord will bring you much understanding of it.
---donna6598 on 3/19/07

[1] Jessica, To be a bit clearer in what I said yesterday: Everyone must decide 'WHO IS JESUS?' Was he just another prophet, someone closer to God than any other had been? Was he just a human body taken over completely by God's spirit? Who is Messiah? God declares in Isaiah 45:21-23 "There is no other God besides Me, A righteous God and a Savior; There is none except Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other. ... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 3/19/07

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[2] I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance." YET, in Philippians 2:10-11, Paul wrote: "so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." [Cont.]
---danie9374 on 3/19/07

[3] We read in Isaiah 46:9: "For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me."

Note that clearly: Not only does God Himself not KNOW of any God besides Him (44:8), but here He declares: There is no one even LIKE God! YET in John 1:1 ff. (where v.14 identifies the 'Word' as becoming Jesus), we have, at least, TWO 'PERSONS' existing together, before Creation, sharing in the same GLORY (John 17:5)!
---danie9374 on 3/19/07

[4] Again in Psalm 102:24-25 (among MANY on this topic) we read: "O my God,... Of old You founded the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands." BUT John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16 state that Jesus (as the Word) who existed 'before all things' (v.17) is the One by, through and for Whom all things were created! There is only one way to reconcile these AND MANY other passages with God's words saying NO ONE LIKE HIM exists:
---danie9374 on 3/19/07

[5] The Word not only has the same nature as God the Father, but they are separate 'persons' (consciousnesses) within the same God.

After noting as we have elsewhere here at Christianet, that the Holy Spirit is a conscious acting and deciding 'person' as well, the doctrine of the Triune Nature of God is the result of our studies in all of Scripture: There are three 'Persons' within the One God.
---danie9374 on 3/19/07

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[6] As I've said elsewhere, just because God's limited creatures (us) cannot totally comprehend His existing in three 'persons' in a way we'll never understand, doesn't mean it can't be true! We believe it because God's words (Scripture) have revealed it to us as truth. Can you understand God having existed for all eternity along with the Word BEFORE the Universe was created?! Of course not!
[Read Isaiah 55:8-9 if you're still wondering about it.]
---danie9374 on 3/19/07

[7] Neither can we understand HOW Jesus Christ, who was the pre-exisitng Word could 'take on flesh' and become human; not just control someone else's body, but actually BE BOTH fully HUMAN and fully DEITY at the same time!! And that's where the doctrine of the Trinity really began in Church history, because false teachers arose (even during John's lifetime), who started teaching Jesus wasn't fully human or wasn't sinless or was just an angel or only a spirit or some other heretical teaching; all lies!
---danie9374 on 3/19/07

[8] From Isaiah 48:11-13 God says: "For My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And My glory I will not give to another. ... I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. Surely My hand founded the earth, And My right hand spread out the heavens." The Creator, says He doesn't share His glory with another, yet Jesus said "glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was." (Jn.17:5)
---danie9374 on 3/19/07

.exzucuh, God is One, he is only 1 God, but you blasphemously believe that there are 3 Gods; and you disgrace the full deity of Jesus by falsely saying he is not the Almighty God but instead Jesus is a lesser God. You will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 3/18/07

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.exzucuh, I correct you again, The Holy Spirit is God, and if you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, then you are blaspheming God; and Jesus says, if you blaspheme the Holy Ghost you will not be forgiven. The Holy Ghost Person is "He". He is God. He is also called the spirit of God, the spirit of the Lord, and the spirit of Christ; the breath of God, the breath of the Lord, and the breath of Christ. Please read Genesis 1:2; 2:7; Matthew 1:18; John 20:22,23.
---Eloy on 3/18/07

---John on 3/17/07
yes it is beyond your comprehension, the Father is in Jesus on the throne just like he was in Jesus in the Earth he is a Spirit and Jesus is in the Father in the Earth through that same Spirit Jesus said all power (all) is given to me in heaven and Earth and this pleased the Father because he is Glorified in the Son,
---Exzucuh on 3/18/07

Eloy you need to wake up you don,t preach the Trinity you are a Oneness preacher thats what they believe Jesus is the Father and the Holy Spirit, The trinity doctrine is 3 persons in one God not one Jesus is three Gods, The trinty recognizes God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, They do not recognize the Holy Spirit as the Father but some other being in the Form of God.
---Exzucuh on 3/18/07

Jessica: 'Doctrine' in the Body of Christ often arises as a reaction to false teachers, and the Triunity of God simply summarizes what Scripture has already proclaimed about the Father, the 'Word' and the Spirit from many different passages. Rather than having to deal with all of Church history, ask that guy What is the Word in John 1?; if he replies with 'a god' (instead of the same nature as God the Father), then read Isaiah 44:6, 8 to him!
---danie9374 on 3/18/07

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1Jn.5:7 to me. I am father, son, & a holy spirit. These 3 are ONE, ME. I'm not 3 persons. 3 attributes, views people see me as. God as father is His place as Heavenly God. God as Son is His earthly role of salvation. God as H.S. the same God in our lives. Someone said Jesus couldn't throw His voice, some say the H.G. came looking like a dove??? Was that "scene" for those at His baptism as signs of who He was? There is one God. He can be anything, anywhere He pleases & still be one entity.
---mikefl on 3/18/07

.john, your information on I John 5:7, which clearly professes the trinity, not being found in any manuscript before the 16th century is 100% false. This verse was found being used in more than one church before the 16th century, and therefore Wycliff included it in the first English Bible in 1380 A.D., and William Tyndale also included it in his English translation a century and a half later. Believe the truth of sacred scripture, all of it, and none of the uninspired footnotes of dissers.
---Eloy on 3/18/07

.john, Beware of every false bible disguised as the Holy Bible. And I will be so bold as to say, you would be better off reading classical poetry, rather then the unholy bible called the NIV (No Inspired Virtue).
---Eloy on 3/18/07

"Jesus sits on the Throne but God is in him and also Sits on the throne through the Son."

Exzucuh, you're raising the Son above the Father. The throne referred to in Revelation is called "the throne of God and of the Lamb." This says the "Lamb" is sitting with God on God's throne. How you can say that "God sits on the throne through the son" is beyond comprehension. Jesus himself said, "Hear, O Israel, YHWH is God, YHWH alone."
---John on 3/17/07

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The Father is God and he is in Jesus because the Father is A Spirit called the Holy Spirit and there is only One of Him that is why Jesus is a mediator between God and Man, he has the Spirit with out measure and the fullness of God in a body and if you want God you can only gain access through our High priest the Son of God Jesus Christ.
---Exzucuh on 3/17/07

the whole purpose of the Son of God is Faith, If you by faith can believe God sent his Son you can be Saved, If you do not believe by Faith in the Son you will be damned. God is Glorified by the acceptance of the Son. If there is no Doctrine of the Son any one who believes in the God of Abraham can be saved without Jesus. His purpose is in vain and death was of no effect. Faith in God is only by Faith in the Son. The Gait, Door, Way, and life.
---Exzucuh on 3/17/07

Revelation 21:5-7 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Jesus sits on the Throne but God is in him and also Sits on the throne through the Son.
---Exzucuh on 3/17/07

Revelation 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
---Exzucuh on 3/17/07

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** Trinity or three Gods in one is not in the bible. **

Nobody said the Trinity is three gods--except people who either misunderstand what is meant or deliberately misrepresent it.

And "people" is not the term for the three Divine Persons (a technical theological term, used as the equivalent of the Greek word "hypostasis") in the Trinity.
---Jack on 3/17/07

Jesus is "the image of the invisible God (Col. 1:15)," "the Son of God," "the beginning of the creation of God (Rev. 3:14)." Yes, he was before Abraham, before Adam, before the world. But NOT before He was created, when God SPOKE The Word (John 1:1) into existence. Let's liken God to all water. Take a cup of water and set it aside. The water in the cup is still water, but it's not all the water there is.
---John on 3/17/07

One basis for the Trinity doctrine is 1 John 5:7. This verse is not in the earliest manuscripts of the Bible, was placed there in the Middle Ages. A note on the NIV says it is "not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century." Adam Clarke Commentary says: "it is likely this verse is NOT GENUINE. It is wanting [lacking] in every MS of this epistle written before the invention of printing, one excepted, the Codex Montfortii."
---John on 3/17/07

Jack, **And THAT is the Holy Trinity.


I wonder where the seven spirits of God fit in your "Holy Trinity" doctrine?
---Ryan on 3/17/07

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Many words in current usage today are found in the Bible written as different words in usage when the Bible was penned. For example, "These three are one" is written in the Bible, and this is meant to be "the trinity".
---Eloy on 3/17/07

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
---jhonny on 3/17/07

There is loads of quotes in the bible where we can read Jesus is God. Do a net search you will find tons of info. Just read john 1 1st chapter, and Jesus also said He saw satan fall, also he said before abraham was I AM. There is to many quotes showing he is God in the flesh. God in the old test also calls himself God the the saviour. I hope you will ask Jesus himself to reveal thing to you. God bless you.
---nick on 3/17/07

Trinity or three Gods in one is not in the bible. But it does state in many places that the three are separate distinct people. Our Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost, or bearer of truth. It states in many places people heard a voice from Heaven above Jesus saying this is my Beloved Son. He could not throw His voice. He resembles His Father, the way your son or daughter resembles you. They are three in purpose only. To bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.
---Dave on 3/16/07

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If God is three persons and all are equal, try to find a throne in the New Jerusalem or New Heaven (in Revelation) for the Holy Spirit. (or for Jesus for that matter; he's included as "the Lamb" ON the throne of and with GOD.)
BTW, the word "rapture" IS in the Bible (raptiere), but you have to go to the Latin Vulgate for it. It's translated from the Greek for being taken away.
---John on 3/17/07

St. Patrick preached the Trinity using the shamrock! Here is the approach that I suggest: Read the verses where God states that He is One God. Then, read the references to the Holy Spirit, Christ and the Father. Pray for wisdom. God will show you that each person is separate yet One God. The Trinity is also represented in Jesus' baptism.
---tim on 3/16/07

It is not a lie actually..It is in the Bible only in descriptive form...3persons or things in one...say like an egg, the shell,egg white then the egg yolk..called Egg. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit called the 3 Holy Persons in one called The Trinity..Tri means 3. Surely, u have more sense than that to make this a big issue when all it is, is a descriptive word of 3 things in one. If u wanted to rub down the Trinity church, then thats not the ways of christian
---jana on 3/16/07

** The 'trinity' is a core doctrine of man. God has revealed Himself to us as the Father, Son and Holy SPirit ...**

And THAT is the Holy Trinity.

---Jack on 3/16/07

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Look in your concordance. You won't find the word "Bible" in the Bible, either.

A word not being in the Bible proves nothing. The very fact you are using a computer shows you do not consider yourself limited to what's in the Bible.

"Trinity" is shorthand for the three Persons (theological term here) in one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

The DOCTRINE is supported in the Bible, however.
---Jack on 3/16/07

PS--Do you believe in the rapture?

Guess what! You won't find the word "rapture" in the Bible, either.
---Jack on 3/16/07

The actual word "trinity" isn't in the bible. But it says, Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. And in Vs 14 that the word was made flesh. Jesus said "My Father and I are one". Your friend is the one whom is being decieved.
---Rebecca_D on 3/16/07

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