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Trinity Of God

How do you explain the Trinity of God to a believer in Jesus who does not believe in the Holy Trinity. Are they considered Christians because they believe in Jesus?

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---frances on 2/20/082 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Colossians 4:6 Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
---exzucuh on 2/22/08

---Cindy on 2/21/08 You are wrong I studied
with the United Pentecostals to become a minister the oneness Doctrine is that the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit is One God in Jesus Christ, The Father is Jesus the Son is of course Jesus and the Holy Spirit is Jesus. It is basically the same doctrine you trinitarians believe the language is only different, like I said men worship language.
---exzucuh on 2/22/08

The truth however is worded by scriptural definition, There is one God and our Father who is a Spirit and one Lord and savior The Son of God the man Christ Jesus. Who is the image or exact likeness of his Father who was given power by his Father and a name that is above every Name his name is Synonymous with God and God is in him and he is the only way by man to the Father through faith in the Son.
---exzucuh on 2/22/08

The Babylonians worshiped a trinity, the Hindu's and many other religious systems and pagen origins do too ...God's first commandment is that we are to have no other Gods before Him ...trinitarians believe Christ is on the same level as God The Father, and The Holy Spirit too? ...what part of no other Gods before me do trinitarians don't get ...God repeatedily tells His People to get out of Babylon!!!
---Rhonda on 2/21/08

Cindy::I concur with you .Oneness is False as it speaks Duality and is therefor not one in theory of Trinity.Trinity is 3 separate gods equal in power & majesty but yet one and the same God.Explaination & compreension of this mystery will be revealed by God in due time according to his essence of Time as he sees fit .We are to believe Not question.I DO.
---Emcee on 2/21/08

sure you'll take this as 'an aim' ....I read what you wrote ..cannot find anything in Gods Word to substantiate the obscure nonsensical posts you provided ...sounds like something from a cult ...or a Harry Potter novel ...If it's just your feelings that's okay I can leave it at that ...reads like much other trinitarian believers (regurgitated non-Bible nonsense passed down in religious manmade traditions)...I only respectfully ask clarifying (from Gods Word) what you already posted.
---Rhonda on 2/21/08

Oneness theology denies the Power of the Holy Spirit, denies that the Holy Spirit is God and equal to the Father and Son.
Oneness believes that the Holy Spirit is an atmosphere or a thing. Some have tweeked it up a few notches, believing that the purpose of the Holy Spirit is only to direct all attention to Jesus Christ.

Oneness believes that if you honor the Holy Spirit as we honor the Father and the Son, that is a form of blasphemy.
---Cindy on 2/21/08

To deny the Holy Spirit as God is to deny the Power of the Holy Spirit.
Oneness is an incomplete Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you follow it, I doubt and wonder if that person would even have the Holy Spirit.
The Bible calls it a form of godliness that denies the Power.
---Cindy on 2/21/08

A form of godliness, a shadow of the real or authentic.
I am a Trinity believer. Oneness has no problem hiding behind a form of godliness in the shadows, taking potshots whenever they can at Trinity believers. Watch. You'll soon see. They'll be coming out of the woodwork (reply text screens) to take their aim.
---Cindy on 2/21/08

Why is it intellectual people like to question the words & actions of God.They know God's word will hold supreme & Fast NO CHANGE Gods admonishion "only the meek will inherit His kingdom"Is it because they think they are intellectual or on par for an arguement.Any views people of interest.
---Emcee on 2/21/08

Mark 13:32
A good verse Gina7 ...reading Gods Word for what it says not adding to it have only 1/3 of that one-being know the time and hour ...and the other 2/3 have no knowlege of the time ...contradicts a one-being theory (if a trinity god were one-being all 3 beings would know - how would one being (of 3 within one) keep a secret from it's other 2 beings if all were one

...and here again there is no mention that the Holy Spirit is also unaware of the time
---Rhonda on 2/20/08

I've mentioned 11 other verses where the Holy Spirit is ignored's another...

1Corin 8:5-7
...But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him, and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge

why no knowledge of the other being (The Holy Spirit)
---Rhonda on 2/20/08

Gina7, you are reading this wrong. It actually says "only the Father will reveal..' and that has been done as we see in Rev. 1:1-3. Now only the bond servants, the few in Rev. 3:4, and all of Philidelepha, will know the time. Why? Because they will be sealed before the tribualtion. Yes, there is a Trinity.
---Dr._Rich on 2/20/08

Frances ...words of wise and taken as such by me squabble was with MarkV ...Lee's name got tossed around in my attempt (however poorly) to make a point (and at that possibly unclearly too).
---Rhonda on 2/20/08

What made me start to doubt the doctrine of the trinity is the Bible verse that says only the Father knows the day and the hour of Jesus coming. Jesus himself does not know when He will be coming back. If Jesus and the Father were both all knowing equal, Jesus would know when He was coming back to the earth. It is obvious the Father is greater.

Mark 13:32

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
---Gina7 on 2/20/08

There could be a million explainations of the Holy Trinity. Rhonda, I think you are right, and Lee, I think you also are right. Why do you argue among yourselves? St Paul said not to argue over matters of doctrine. The Bible is there, let everyone read it and find the Truth, or let them deceive themselves with the lies they want to believe in.
---frances on 2/20/08

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I am in favour of an underground Church that has no denomination. They all believe in the Bible and they have so many enemies that they never argue among themselves. They are too busy trying to survive, or as one blogger said, too busy suffering. The fake Christians are the ones who love money, or love church-going (not worshipping God).
---frances on 2/20/08

The corruption of the Church is the problem, not the definition of God. Giving an opinion about someone's denomination as if it were fact is not good for relationships. I was told I was an Adventist, Purpose Driven, etc. It is water off a duck's back, because I know I am not. I am of the Church of Jesus Christ undivided, uninterested in denominations, religions, or church attendance.
---frances on 2/20/08

Rhonda, thank you for your great inside into Lee's life and purpose. May the Holy Spirit give you understanding and a purpose.
---Mark_V. on 2/20/08


Oh MarkV that's precious AGAIN more dodging and evading

Essense Undivided isn't in Gods Word ....instead you avoided to correct me (almost laughable) have no clue where you received "essense undivided" because you have held this belief for so long you probably thought it was in Gods Word

When you stumble across a verse in Gods Plain Truth AKA The Holy Bible let me know .

Just Gods Word -- I'll save you time - it's not there.
---Rhonda on 2/20/08

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As for Lee there "seems to be" only one agenda on this blog to damn some women named Ellen White (whoever she is) along with Adventists (maybe something you missed or refuse to see)

Postings from people TELLING others their beliefs rather than discussing Gods Word - it gets old.'re right Lee may not be wicked for being obsessed with Ellen White and Adventist not someone wicked when the insinuate --it's just a subtle way of spreading a lie - why no?
---Rhonda on 2/20/08

Rhonda, "You said please correct me" I did just that and you got upset. I corrected you but you didn't like my correction in the first place or my explanation. Your intend was not that. I am sorry I though you were first a Mormon then an SDA. It was not meant to hurt your feelings. I was wondering where you learned, since the elect come from everywhere. You could have learned from the Baptist. Let me explain something to you for the last time.
---Mark_V. on 2/20/08

#2. Rhonda: The question was about the Trinity. I gave an explanation and gave Scripture. You didn't like the explanation. You didn't have to like it or believe it. What I then said, if you don't believe the Trinity you could not be a Christian since Christians are those who believe in the Word of God, the gospel of your salvation. And the God states through His Word that the Spirit is God. Then you turn around and get angry and call Lee Wicked. Just because he might have thought you were SDA.
---Mark_V. on 2/20/08

#3. Rhonda: Just because someone believes and I don't mean faith in Christ, but simple feelings that someone is SDA, Mormon, Baptist, Catholic, does not make the person wicked. Just because someone had a feeling I was Catholic does not make that person wicked. He is just wrong and I would tell him. Wicked are those the Bible say will not convert and God has harsh words about them all through Scripture. You are not looking for the Truth at all.
---Mark_V. on 2/20/08

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#4. Rhonda: Lee has been one of the most devoted bloggers on line and has given many great and powerful answers. He has stayed within the subjects with Scripture. One of the most honest and learned person on line. You would do well to listen instead of accusing him of been wicked. If you want to call me wicked go for it. Lee was not even in this subject at all and doesn't deserve you saying what you did just because you are angry at me.
---Mark_V. on 2/20/08

the word uses the Waters of Noah as a way to describe the doctrine of salvation.
The same water that saved Noah destroyed the world, It only saved Noah because by faith he obeyed God, doing his word as he gave it, not his interpretation of it. The Ark represented Jesus,and only through the Ark could you be saved, What you thought about the ark or your
endoctrinal truths about it made no difference what so ever, If you did not enter by faith in the manner God said you would still perish.
---exzucuh on 2/19/08

If you can control the imagination of man you
can then control and manipulate him. An idol
is not made of stone but in the mind of the believer. The image of the beast is a creation of Antichrist in the minds of all men to believe something contrary to the word of God. To the Atheist and scientist it is
Darwinism,To the religious it is doctrines of men. They are portrayed as the unholy trinity
The Dragon or Antichrist,false prophet,and the Beast.
---exzucuh on 2/19/08

Out of their mouths comes the same doctrine.The Frog doctrine the doctrine of devils having the spirit of devils. Frogs are nocturnal creatures of the night, cold blooded, and their Doctrine causes the believers Love to turn cold and return to the spirit of the world,giving the wounded head of the Dragon back his life and power. Selling out Christ for Antichrist like Judas they become the son of perdition, because they are destroying themselves with doctrines of the Beast or Carnality.

---exzucuh on 2/19/08

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They have a number in their forehead because they are murderers of their brethren, and have not the Spirit of God but of the world, They kill with their doctrines of devils,making disciples that are twice the son's of hell they are. They bear the fruit of the beast that compliments the world and it's carnal desires, they hate holiness and godliness and the mind of Christ, they refuse to believe in regeneration making the cross none effect.
---exzucuh on 2/19/08

Blind guides they look for a kingdom to come
leading others in their ideas fall into a ditch and overlook that the kingdom is Now in the believer by the Spirit of God,and the Father is that Spirit who places the Spirit of his Son in us that we may call him Father.
He having made a way of reconciliation by faith in his Son opens a door to God the Father. God's salvation is his Son and the faith that saves is believing he is God's Son. Not some doctrine made by man of what he thinks is salvation.
---exzucuh on 2/19/08

When you decide to worship God rather than
language then you can have a relationship with him that will allow you to see the truth. Your God is in the presentation of words devised by men to control the way all men perceive God.By knowledge was the fall of man because he could not receive God by faith and just believe what he said. He lusted after the fruit of knowledge that he thought
would bring him into the realm of God.
---exzucuh on 2/19/08

3)MarkV So instead of dialogue about Gods Word several people (now myself included)spend wasted time answering other holier than thou Christians and their insinuations

Their insinuations telling others what THEY BELIEVE TO BE TRUE about other people ...from a blog no less!!!

I guess this is the way to deflect from actually discussing Gods Word --spend more time bickering about the religion you hold fast too
---Rhonda on 2/19/08

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Well then MarkV please correct me.

Tell me where in Gods Plain Truth is there anything written describing the "essence undivided"?

I don't follow books of men describing God, however if you follow a man then this is truth to you.

I follow the God of the Holy Bible and Christ describes Himself and His Father.

You can use whatever fancy language you want but Gods Plain Truth still stands
---Rhonda on 2/19/08

My Friends, family, co-workers are catholic and other protest-ant trinity believers like I once was ...I thank God The Father every day through Christ My Lord and Savior for allowing me to put aside the tradition of men and read His Plain Truth

Christ cannot be seated or standing at the right hand of God if He were part of ONE BEING ...
Matt 26:64
Mark 14:62, 16:19
Luke 22:69
Acts 2:33, 7:55,56
---Rhonda on 2/19/08


I have never mentioned I was SDA ...that would be the wicked Lee who keeps insisting I'm SDA even though I have continuosly many times over (adnaseum) told him/her I'm not.

Guess that's one of the biggest pitfalls with the love of Christ so many profess on the lips and keyboard
---Rhonda on 2/19/08

2)MarkV lots of people have nothing to post from Gods Word so instead they post about others...

TELLING others they are mormon, sda, fundamentalists, purpose driven church (whatever that is) and everything else because they cannot find anything else to say in Gods Word so they resort to childish ways of dialogue
---Rhonda on 2/19/08

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Rhonda, I just read some more of your answers and find out you are not SDA. Sorry. I sure didn't want to blame the SDA's for not believing in the Trinity. I wonder if they do? I was wondering what church you belong to since you don't believe the Holy Spirit is God. Thanks for your answers.
---Mark_V. on 2/19/08

Rhonda, what you called gibberish was taken from the Word of God. "But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." It is no wonder you say what you say. I was under the impression you were a Mormon but you must be from some denomination that is not Christian at all. You can call yourself a Christian and mix with Christians, and tell everyone you are a Christian
---Mark_V. on 2/18/08

#2. Rhonda: and even discuss things with Christians as other do here, but you cannot be one since you don't believe the Spirit is God. And since the Spirit brings life to those who are lost, the evidence is you are not. I only look at the evidence since I am not God. I cannot make you a Christian, I cannot talk you into been one, I can only answer you. People might not know how to comprehend the Trinity, or understand how to explain it, but they believe it.
---Mark_V. on 2/18/08

#3. Rhonda: Only the Spirit of God can bring light to God's Word and I cannot. I believe I read some place either today or yesterday where you mentioned you were SDA and I was shocked since I believe they believe in the Trinity. If they don't that it is news to me. I am almost positive but not really sure if they do or not. Something to study on.
---Mark_V. on 2/18/08

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MarkV ..what did you write? it some other language ..sounds like some mystical gibberish "essense is undivided" where in Gods Word does it say that???

Paul IGNORES the Holy Spirit in greetings ...greeting only God The Father and Christ always ignoring the other "god-being"

Rom 1:1, 7-9
1Cor 1:1,3
Cor 1:1
Galations 1:1,3
Ephesians 1:1-3
Phil 1:1-2
Col 1:1-3
I Thess 1:1
11 Thes 1:1
Phil 1:1,3
Titus 1:1,
---Rhonda on 2/18/08

In the divine and infinite Being there are three persons, the Father, the Son, (or the Word) and the Holy Spirit. They are one in substance, power, and eternity, each having the whole divine essence, yet this essence is undivided. The Father is not derived from anyone, He is neither begotten nor proceeding, the Son is eternally begotten of the Father, the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. All three are infinite, without beginning, and therefore but one God.
---Mark_V. on 2/18/08

#2. Yet they are distinguished by several distinctive characteristics and personal relations. This doctrine of the Trinity is the foundation of all our fellowship with God, and of the comfort of our dependence on Him. Mat. 3:16, 28:19, 2 Cor. 13:14, Exo 3:14, Joh 14:11, 1 Cor. 8:4-6, Pro. 8:22-31, Joh 1:1-3, 14, 18, 3:16, 10:36, 15:26, 16:28, Heb. 1:2, 1 Jo 4:14, Gal. 4:4-6.
---Mark_V. on 2/18/08


Christs blood does not wash mankind clean

The blood of Christ reconciles mankind to God

Christs resurrection washes those who repent from past sins
---Rhonda on 2/18/08

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MikeM, I don't believe you read my post correctly. I didn't say, "that those who disagree with me are atheist" I think you should read it again. I said the word of God judges you as someone who has no faith. What I check are your fruits, as evidence of that faith. Your insistance on not believing the Word of God is the evidence. I cannot see your heart MikeM only your fruits. I am not and have never claimed to be "Deity" One person here has, but not me.
---Mark_V. on 2/18/08

#2. MikeM: As a servant Christ, because of the Word of God, I believe people come to saving faith in Christ through the Word of God. And when someone doesn't believe in the Word of God, it is evident the person cannot have faith. Sure there is crazy answers from many here. Many of them are wrong in the interpretation of doctrine, so you see many idea's come forward, but that is because we are all fallible people. So you will have many idea's and believes and be wrong, but the Word of God is truth always.
---Mark_V. on 2/18/08

#3. MikeM: Whether we disagree or not, does not change the fact that the Word of God is truth. God is the Author. When God gave Adam and Eve the ability to sin, we cannot comprehend why He did it, but we believe it. God didn't think it was necessary to tell us if there was people before Adam and Eve, If He wanted, He would have told us. We don't understand all His doing but we know by faith what He wrote is truth. It's faith, not just believe, but faith in the living Christ who is the Word.
---Mark_V. on 2/18/08

I don't find it all that necessary to explain the "trinity" to those who don't believe in it. I tell them to read the bible and to believe in God and Christ and ask that Christ's blood wash them clean. I'm not sure that any of us are that good at understanding everything about God or the relationships between holy beings, so I leave it at that. If God wants them to believe in the trinity, then His word or His guidance will lead them to that if they honestly seek Him.
---chris on 2/17/08

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MarkV, You presume much, now you say those who disagree with you are atheist. I dont condemn Christians of any denomination, or call anyone stupid,my issue is with any form of fundamentalism. Some here say nutty things Ive heard here like,
My microwave is possessed
SIDS babies burn in hell
The earth does not move-Psalms 104:5
The devil created fossils to confuse
The earth is 6000 years old
I may not say they stupid, but are suffering from serious cognitive dissonance.
---MikeM on 2/17/08

*the Holy Spirit is not a gift from God, He is God*

Acts 11:16-18
..."because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money."

Where Simon offers money for the laying of hands ...If the Holy Spirit were a god (not a gift) this was a point neglected by the Apostles. Other verses clearly refer to the Holy Spirit as a gift:

John 4:10
2 Corin 9:15
2 Tim 1:6
Heb 2:4
1 Peter 4:10
---Rhonda on 2/17/08

Evolution is the Doctrine of the Antichrist
it is the image of the beast that those who have the Mark bow down to. They believe they came from beasts but in reality they are degenerated from true Spiritual creatures into a subspecies that must be regenerated through Christ back into the children of God.
All that are not born again have the Mark of the Beast it is only removed by the blood of Jesus. Faith is not knowledge, faith is believing Gods word and obeying it.
---exzucuh on 2/17/08

I can agree to disagree with anyone while maintaining an open dialogue ...when emotion is used to make points in Gods Word resorting to labeling rather than continuing to use Gods Word in ones approach then we could learn and grow from one another

An 85 word limit can distort and chopping up some comments ....a few exchanges of written dialogue would barley scratch the surface which is why I thought this was an ongoing dialogue using Gods Word or as God Word says Prove All Things.
---Rhondar on 2/17/08

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That's a new one MikeM. You want to condemn me with Scripture. First of all Mike, you gave clear evidence of your lack of that faith God spoke of with your answer. That is in fact what I had stated, no biblical faith. So I am right coming from the Word of God. Your problem is, you just don't believe in God. You must think, and I am sure you do by your answers, that all Christians are stupid. That they don't know anything and you know everything.
---Mark_V. on 2/17/08

#2. MikeM: And so everyday, you stand condemning fundamentalist, non-fundamentalist, Chrisians, the Bible, diffeent denominations, individuals, because that is who you are. A person without faith in God. "No faith in the Word of God" there is a big difference between you and I, your smarter in many things of the world, but the main difference between you and I, is "that I have a hope, and you don't." Do I hate you? No way. Of course I don't. I don't even know you.
---Mark_V. on 2/17/08

#3. MikeM: I not been mean by saying this. I don't think I am for I am coming from Scripture. I don't even suggest you will never come to our side, for I sure don't know the reasons and actions of God for His people. But until then, you will be on the side of the goats and I on the side of the sheep, waiting to see if you come across by faith in the Lord. I don't make that up, it is written.
---Mark_V. on 2/17/08

MarkV You offer a classic fallasy, creating a false dictonomy, "you disagree with me, your with the devil" I have heard it many times, from many views.

Faith as in Hebrews 11 is the basic definition of what faith is. Its self-deception, not faith when one has to deny reality to maintain faith, thats been my point all along about evolution. 'The Glory of God is Intelligence' as I understand it, therefore the glory of the 'other fellow' is ignorance.
---MikeM on 2/17/08

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MikeM, Do you call it an attack when someone compares you to someone else? Wow, you are a scientist and smart, you should know better. What if it was a compliment? Would it be an attack. I meant that maybe you and her were Mormons. I was not sure so I had to use evidence in your answers, but Rhonda is far more advanced then you. She at least has faith, your answers show no faith (In Christ) and His Word. Now just because they don't show faith, does not mean I am attacking, only pointing your evidence.
---Mark_V. on 2/16/08

Rhonda::You have just been 4 para evangelised.Did not Jesus say after HE goes He would send the Holy spirit,undoubtedly the 3rd person of The Blessed Trinity But Yet a god & a GIFT.Same as God Our Father sent us HIS SON to Redeem the world OUT of LOVE AS A GIFT.The essence is LOVE, not an arguement."Love one another as I have loved YOU.
---Emcee on 2/16/08

Rhonda, the Holy Spirit is not a gift from God, He is God. I question what you put down because it is incorrect. I don't question you as a person. You have a right to believe in anything you want. If what you write is not truth, I will answer to that untruth. you are different then Mike in that you put down Scripture, where he condemns the whole word. What I meant was that I believe he is a Mormon. I still stand that with the knowledge of the gospel truth a person is not saved.
---Mark_V. on 2/16/08

#2. Rhonda: I am only interested in talking about the the Word of God, doctrines, but many times in doing so we began talking about their church's their teachings, and one cannot escape that fact since people come from other denominations. Even within the Catholic church they have different believes in some local churche's then others and different doctrine believes from one Cardinal to another. So when we discuss doctrine like the trinity we just about have to go into the church.
---Mark_V. on 2/16/08

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#3 Rhonda: The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not something anyone can comprehend, but it is something everyone has to believe because it comes from the Word of God, and the Word of God is final authority to all Christians. Our faith is what makes us different then the world Rhonda. Nothing else is. Our faith in Christ, and we get that faith through His Word when it comes to us in power.
---Mark_V. on 2/16/08

#4. Rhonda: When I am speaking of faith I am speaking about the faith that God gives us as a gift when we are born again. Our faith alone fails many times, but the one that comes from God never fails. Everything that God gives is perfect and right.
---Mark_V. on 2/16/08

I have been accused of being other people. now I am accused of being Rhonda. Her post i find unusual, I cannot 'get a fix' on where she is coming from, so I make a point of reading her interesting posts. The post of those I disagree with are often most interesting, hers included.

The posters I dislike are the emotive bombastic ones, those lacking the ability to offer a cogent rebuttel, so they personally attack. Their names go unmentioned.
---MikeM on 2/16/08

Comparing me to MikeM is interesting ..Im unsure he would agree with your opinion lol ...truly isnt important ...Ive seen some of what he has written over several topics ....thought he was discussing topics not proving his smartness ...he makes good points (whether I agree or not)
---Rhonda on 2/15/08

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I didnt come out here to damn people to some imagined hell because their viewpoint was different than mine

or change them to be saved to some other denomination then the one they belong to because the light isn't in them, the truth, Gods Spirit, they're not born again, or lost or whatever other labels are thrown around to belittle other Christians

or tell them they were wrong because I couldn't think of anything else to write to share my angle or viewpoint on Gods Word.
---Rhonda on 2/15/08

The Holy Spirit is a gift from God to mankind for the sacrafice of His only Begotten Son.

Gods Holy Spirit is not an entity or another being.

It is a gift given to us when we repent and are Baptized in Jesus Name to guide Christians in Christ to follow Him learning and growing in grace and character.
---Rhonda on 2/15/08

Christ spent 3 years TEACHING HIS Disciples (STUDENTS)?

In school when a student was LOST ...TEACHER used many different angles explaining the topic ...yet student still had more questions ...imagine if that TEACHER just gave up (even if there was more to share) to help this student understand the material ...telling student they were wrong or lost?

Living, walking with Christ it's not magic - its a learning process this is why we are called GODS CHILDREN.
---Rhonda on 2/15/08

When Jesus was on the Cross he asked God why he had left him, He told his disciples he was going to his God and their God, his Father and their Father, 4 times Jesus refers to the Father as his God in this scripture,
Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God:
---exzucuh on 2/15/08

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Jesus Christ is the Son of God the Man Christ Jesus who is a mediator between God and man,
The doctrine of Christ is that though him man is reconciled back to God. God having set Christ at his right hand gave him dominion and power over all nations, God himself speaking of his throne that Christ is sitting
on said O,God thy throne is forever a scepter of righteousness.
---exzucuh on 2/15/08

Isaiah prophesied the coming of God's Son and to show the power of his name and how it is synonymous with the name of God, said his name shall be called everlasting Father,mighty God,
The name of Jesus is above every name and whosoever calls upon this name is saved because it is one with the Father and the Father has sent his name Jesus, Jesus himself
is the name of God for God has put his name in Christ.
---exzucuh on 2/15/08

Mark.V.- unless we can actually read the hearts and minds of others over the Internet, we should not make public pronouncements about other people's salvation or lack of salvation, especially not based on a few phrases typed on a public blog like this one.
---InimicusStultitiae on 2/15/08

Krause::Your actions & thoughts do not bespeak of the name you accuse me of using against you.We are talking Of TRINITY =3 distinct persons equally omnipotent Powerful But yet one & the same God.Being a mystery I do Not attempt an explaination.This has bewildered many I say Accept Your God which ever way HE asks.Do not analyse HIM Unless you desire to be like Eve & eat of the Forbidden Fruit .Thank goodnes it's not available as in the Garden of Eden.
---Emcee on 2/15/08

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Rhonda, by the words you write you give clear evidence you are not born again. you could not be. If the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit doesn't exist, then you are lost. The Spirit gives life. Jesus gives life, the Father gives life. Lost no matter what denomination you are in. You even put down passages out of context to prove your point. Something that only MikeM could think of, using the very Word of God that he doesn't believe in, in the first place to prove how smart he is.
---Mark_V. on 2/15/08

MarkV:-)The truth will set you Free Free Free from the law.1.What law?2 Do you always work outside the LAW? 3. Thanks for your judgement of me in My Faith.4 U R wrong5.God bless you as you stumble seeking the TRUTH available in Mat16:17-19
---Emcee on 2/15/08


I seek to understand ...I provide scripture Gods Written Word as Truth ...where He asks us to PROVE all things (not blindly accept)
---Rhonda on 2/15/08

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