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Do Churches Talk About Sin

Many churches seem to avoid using the word SIN these days. Without being convicted of our sin how can we ever ask for and receive forgiveness. How has a great section of the church sunk so low that some now think that they are saved without even realising what they are 'supposed' to be saved from?

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We overcome evil with good. Speaking for doing good is just as effective or more than speaking against sin. Although I think there is a place for both, the positive sermon to "love your neighbour" is more profitable than "don't steal from your neighbour."
The Holy Spirit is still alive and well and will convict the sinner either way.
---john on 2/8/08

The reason sin is being under-emphasized in churches these days is because so many churches view the book of Genesis as fiction and not real history. Genesis DEFINES sin because it tells of the FIRST sin, which all other sins afterwards resulted from.
---anthony on 5/19/07

I could not had said it better myself--Cynthia 1
---catherine on 4/3/07

When the Holy Spirit of God GRIPS your soul, with such remorse, that you agonize over your sins, you will not need that any man teaches you, Whom the Lord Loveth He chasteneth, I can not tell you the unending pain and remorse you will experience, trust me you will want repentance. If your smart. No person wants to burn in eternal flames.
---Cynthia_1 on 4/3/07

TS: "The Definitions come from Strong's Concordance."

Remember, the Bible is not of one person's interpretation. The Strong's Concordance was first published in 1890 by one man, James Strong, a professor of Drew Theological Seminary. Even though he had a few dozen people working on the project he had a great influence in how words were defined and put into his reference book.

So, what book are you going to use as reference - the Bible or the SC?
---Steveng on 4/2/07

rebecca: Hebrew, Chaldean, Greek words I cite are in the Orignial Manuscripts not the "translation" you quote. The Definitions come from Strong's Concordance.

Hell simply means "the grave"
The dead simply sleep in the dust awaiting resurrection.

Against God's Good Name to Roast and Toast anyone like the Devil would for eternity.

Fire poured upon earth in the final battle to rid it of sin and sinners; the consequences are "eternal" thus Eternal Fire.
---TS on 4/1/07

Without the Commandments there is no sin and therefore no need of conviction.
---TS on 4/1/07

In the first place, church has never saved anyone. And in the second place, unless the Person of the Holy Spirit convicts you of sin then you are not truly saved. I do not care one ioda what they are teaching in the churches, these are the facts of true Salvation.
---catherine on 4/1/07

Sin is the transgression of the [Ten Commandment] law (1John 3:4). The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life (Rom 6:23). It would seem then that any discussion of eternal life must include a discussion of its opposing force - sin; And any discussion of sin must be defined by the transgression of one of the Ten Commandments. Funny how many want to ignore law breaking and simply say "I'm saved. Sin no longer applies to me."
---jerry6593 on 3/31/07

I am not allowed to argue,but unbelievers are much more guilty of taking scriptures out of context to suit their own agendas. That is why it is important first of all to study scripture, compare scripture, and ask God to get it in your spirit. So when Satan quote you a scripture you can say, "It is also written."
---catherine on 3/31/07

Many Christians take verses out of context from the Bible to meet their own agenda. They also use the same technique when defining words - using one definition of a word when several are noted. The word subterranean also means under the ground - sub means beneath/under and terra means earth/ground.
---Steveng on 3/30/07

The word "hell" is used 34 times in the Old Testament in 23 times in the New Testament. That is 57 times hell is used in the bible. I am using the KJV and it doesn't have the word's hades, sheol or gehenna. Subterranean means secret, hidden. So hell is real and it isn't hidden or secret. Hell is not a myth to scare people. For it is real. If it isn't real, then what is real hell to you T.S?
---Rebecca_D on 3/30/07

Jim: What does Rom 3:31 say to you?

Rom 3:31 "Do we then make void the law through faith? God Forbid! Yea, we establish the Law!"

I remind you that "All Scripture is given by Inspiration of God, profitable for doctrine, reproof and instruction in righteousness that the man of God be thoroughly furnished unto all Good Works."
---TS on 3/30/07

jana...As ministers of the gospel of Jesus Christ, my husband and I are familiar with the time involved in preparing for sermons. We also know that the leading of the Holy Spirit is more important that preparation. If a preacher is preaching a watered-down, feel good message, he is not preaching the full gospel. People do not want to hear about their sins. We have had people tell us that they don't want to go to heaven, but to hell so they can party with their friends. They need to know the truth.
---Susie on 3/30/07

TS.....What does Eph.2:8-9 say to you?
---JIM on 3/30/07

I would also like to add James 5:16-20. Especially verses 19 and 20:

"Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."
---lorra8574 on 3/30/07

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jana/susie: You are both correct; Kindness and Truth should be our aim... yet there are times when Jesus Calls it with no mincing of Words. "Oh ye blind Scribes and Hypocrites!" was His call. We are to Judge the content of the message against the Scriptures. We are not to Judge others in the sense that they are to be condemned to eternal damnation because the "Judgment" in the Courts of Heaven has not been finished and Jesus leaves the door open for all to Repent and follow Truth.
---TS on 3/30/07

.. We should not be preaching hell and torment for sin.. He gave us all the ministry of reconciliation, which should be according to 2 cor.5 17:19 .. God is reconciling the world to Himself, through Christ, not counting mens sins against them.
We need the good news...Sin has been dealt with.

Please read..2 cor. ..We are made competent ministers of a new covenant
---duane on 3/30/07

lorra8574 - You will notice that the word "warn" in 1 Thessalonians 5:14 is sandwiched between instructions to comfort and edify in verse 11; to esteem in verse 13; to encourage; to help and support; to be patient with in verse 14; and to always pursue the good in everyone in verse 15.

You will never minister to the one you offend. Stepping on toes is offensive. The Word says it best ... it's God's loving kindness that leads people to repentance (Romans 2:4).
---DoryLory on 3/30/07

Rebecca: Hell is used 55 times in Scripture. "Sheol" or "Hades" used 42 times meaning "The Grave." NT the word "Gehenna" used 12 times means "Place of Burning." Hell most often means Grave, not Burning. No subterranean Hell with a devil exists, such is fable. Burning takes place when God cleanses the Earth with fire/ consumes the wicked. The Fable created combines "Sheol" and "Gehenna" out of context simply to scare people.
---TS on 3/30/07

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** The KJV uses the word hell, and the RV (revised version) replaces hell and puts hades. Sheol is the same for hades. **

KJV uses hell for hades, sheol, AND gehenna. No wonder people get confused. Two different things are translated by the same word.
---Jack on 3/30/07

TS......what does EPH.2:8 say to you?
What does Romans 8:1 say to you also?
---JIM on 3/30/07

susie: God's servants took time to prepare their sermons and it is not an easy task. For you to criticise sermons is judging God's servants..remember, they were ordained by God so be kinder to them...all too often we the congregation are too quick to criticise...yet will not do anything to help.
---jana on 3/30/07

You have to get them lost, before you can get them saved. If they think there are a good person, they won't need a saviour. If you just give them the gospel without helping them realize they are lost, it won't make sense to them.
---Rev_Herb on 3/30/07

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Cliff; the bible tells us that hell is a place of torment Luke 16:23. Hades is a place for the dead. The KJV uses the word hell, and the RV (revised version) replaces hell and puts hades. Sheol is the same for hades. Gehenna became the common receptacle for all the refuge of the city, dead people, animals were cast into this valley and consumed by fire. It alsos takes the place of hell in the RV. the reason why people don't preach on hell, is because they don't want to face the truth of God's wrath.
---Rebecca_D on 3/30/07

Amen TS, like many people today following a placebo gospel, wanting a free ride to heaven. That ol serpent hasn't changed much, I can hear him saying to Eve 'Hath God really said though shalt die if you eat the apple' seducing spirits are tricking even the most elect nowdays, TAKE HEAD, lest your adversary the devil roams about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Make no mistake, we are saved by Gods grace, if we go and sin no more.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/30/07

We need ot be reminded that sin does exist.& my congregation reminds us of that, but most christendom churches are doing the "itching ears" syndrom brought out in the bible & alot of people are eating it up.
---candice on 3/29/07

Ofcourse God is not sadistic. He HATES SIN. And the wicked, lost, unbelivers, He will punish. And it will be terrible. It will be awful. To have the invisible God pour His wrath upon you. What a day that is going to be, my friend. What a day. Do I scare you? I hope so.
---catherine on 3/29/07

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cynthia: Sounds like Jim likes to sin free of charge.
---TS on 3/29/07

DoryLory: "Most people in church already know when they do wrong because the Holy Spirit convicts them." It's unfortunate that most Christians today don't even have the Holy Spirit in them to know they are sinning. Most believe that just because they are attending church, they are good.
---Steveng on 3/29/07

1st_cliff: I don't usually agree with Catherine, but I have to admit this time she is probably close but less than ten percent. I've meet hundreds of pastors, priests and even street preachers as I traveled across country for over 30 years. I'm sure they started innocently, thinking they could convert the world, but as time went on they become prideful.
---Steveng on 3/29/07

DoryLory see Ezekiel 3:17-21.

Lest you think that this no longer applies, 1 Thess 5:14.

This is not every man for himself. We are a family and it is our mandate to preach the Word of God to the ends of the earth. We are our brother's keeper.
---lorra8574 on 3/29/07

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Sin is not the Gospel.
Gospel means good news. What is the good news? Is sin takin me too hell? Thats bad news.
---calhoon on 3/29/07

Seeker friendly churches don't talk about sin because they are afraid they would offend someone.
---Garth on 3/29/07

My Pastor teaches about sin, hell, and the Love that God has for us and His will that we not perish but have everlasting life. It's not my call to say how my Pator should present Jesus to us, but I believe he gives a good balance concerning the difference between deciding to live for Christ, and living in sin.
---lynet on 3/29/07

Cynthia...we being unworthy of salvation are saved by the Grace of almighty GOD through faith alone in Christ alone.
Galatians 3:26 says by faith in Jesus Christ we are children of GOD.
Faith in Christ and what he accomplished for us on the cross.
---JIM on 3/29/07

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Jesus did not go around preaching how much he loves everybody. John the Baptist didn't do that either. The word REPENTENCE was used a lot when Jesus preached. "Go and sin no more." What more do we need? All those feel good sermons do nothing but make people keep living in their little selfish, sinful worlds.
---Susie on 3/29/07

catherine; Do those statistics come off the top of your head or did someone take a poll? Rebecca D; the reason they don't use the scare-tactics of a literal burning hell is that they discovered that hell (sheol-hades) is the common grave of mankind! That gehenna is symbolic of total destruction and Tarterus is dense darkness where the demons are! Our heavenly Father is NO sadistic fiend! He's LOVE!
---1st_cliff on 3/29/07

Most people in church already know when they do wrong because the Holy Spirit convicts them. That's His job ... not ours.

Most people want to do right but can feel trapped by sin ... because sin is a trap (Genesis 4:7). When someone is in a trap, will beating them on the head help them? They need someone who will reach down and pull them up. People need to hear that Jesus will help them out of that trap. They need to be encouraged to look to Jesus to overcome sin.
---DoryLory on 3/29/07

Human nature is intuitively more inclined to positive reinforcement than negative. Statements that say "live right and you will be blessed" will accomplish more than pointing out faults.

Romans 2:4 says that loving kindness leads people to repentance. Ephesians 4:11-13 says that God's people are prepared for works of service as they are built up -- not as they are put down or straightened out.
---DoryLory on 3/29/07

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I agree. It says in the Bible that God's people are going backwards because they do not have knowledge. I think teenagers and children especially need to be taught what is allowable and what not, if they want to be children of Christ. It says in the Bible that we should speak to our neighbour if we see he is backsliding.
---Junia on 3/29/07

Man, are you ever right!!!Some pastors say you are saved by grace, God will forgive should see what happened to the last pastor that told me that....he is so into sin, I can not tell you. I beleive each pastor of every church, should ask the congregation to REPENT, of their sins, before worship service, if not. ALL, WHOLE CONGREGATIONS CAN BE DECEIVED, and think they are destined for heaven. WRONG.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/29/07

Many churches doesn't preach on hell anymore. People has let sin in behind their pulpits, with gays preaching, telling all about God's word. And the people are okay with that. Many churches avoid the truth in God's word, that is why so many churches are falling away.
---Rebecca_D on 3/29/07

I preach against sin and I also name sins. I step on toes when I preach.

To preach positive sermons all the time is like trying to start a car with both leads connected to the positive post of the battery, you get no power.

Positivie sermons are like cotten candy, it tast good, but there is nothing there.
---Rev_Herb on 3/29/07

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Sin seems to be four letter word in many churches, including many Catholic Parishs. But this also shows up in the size. Dying parishes tend to be wishy-washy and feel good only. My last parish had a Polish Priest who was very strong on sin and repentence, and his masses were always standing room only, even on Saturdays.

He is retired now, but his message built and kept a vibrant, thriving parish filled with young and old alike.
---lorra8574 on 3/29/07

I don't know, but what can one expect when only one in 100 preachers are truly saved.
---catherine on 3/29/07

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