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Christian Ten Commandments

Why are the Christian Ten Commandments in my Bible different than the Ten Commandments in my Catholic grandmother's Bible?

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The commandments of God were given before Mt. Siani. Where there is no law there is no sin for sin is transgression of the law. (I John 3:4) Adam and Eve sinned, they disobeyed. Satan sinned, he coveted. Cain sinned, he killed his brother Abel. You will be judged by the law of liberty (The 10 commandments James 2:12). If you break one you've broken them all (James 2:10). Its a Holy convocation or a Holy coming together or assembly (Leviticus 23:3). You continue to worship on the Sabbath once the earth is made new and heavens made new(Isaiah 66:22-23). The Sabbath was instituted at creation and will remain forever. His commandments are sure and stand fast forever and ever. Psalms 111:7-10.
---Terri_Greer on 7/22/10

Did God rest on the sabbath or did He not? Jesus said work was done on the sabbath. The priest worked every sabbath, lost a sheep you went looking for it,and Jesus healed on the sabbath.The question is not are we to keep the sabbath,but where is our heart? How about Is.56:6-7: "the sons of the stranger,that join themselves to the Lord...that keepeth the Sabbath...them will I bring to My Holy Mountian.."
---mike on 3/22/08

Because the Christian Bible is Holy, and it is not a catholic book.
---Eloy on 3/17/08

For the same reason that counterfeit money is different than real money.
---Eloy on 3/17/08

OK then, since no one here has the ability to explain what the "Christian Ten Commandments" are, we have to conclude that they don't exist, and that you are arguing about nothing.
---Jerry on 3/17/08

Gina7 I observe it as holy, I don't however rest because, to rest means to not cook,not wash or clean, not do the clothes, not fix anything, not take out the trash, not go shopping etc. If you do any work on this day you are not following the commandment given to the Jews in the OT. Not once in the Bible does God say "the Sabbath is a day of worship" he said "it is a day of rest." So if you claim you keep it then do so and don't do any work.
---Matthew on 7/14/07

audrey - *Gen.26:5,ABRAHAM obeyed God's commandments!*

You may not know this but the law (with its Sabbath commandment) was not given until some 430 years after Abraham (Gal. 3:17). So you cannot logically conclude that the commandments Abraham obeyed was the commandments given at Mt.Sinai.

Bear in mind that the word "assume" is made up of 3 distinct words.
---lee on 7/14/07

Audrey I never said before Israel no one obeyed God. I said the BIble gives no proof that before Israel people rested on the Sabbath.

Gina7 again no commandment was given in Genesis. God hallowed the day and made it holy. He didn't say we must rest on that day in Genesis. God's people always knew the Sabbath was holy. Even God's people before the flood. It doesn't change the fact that we don't know if they rested on that day. Do you clean the counter top on the Sabbath? Empty the garbage?
---Matthew on 7/14/07

Matthew,maybe these accounts will help.
Gen.26:5,ABRAHAM obeyed God's commandments!
Ex.16:1-30 The people of Israel were "murmuring" against God because they wanted more food. So God said, "I will... TEST them, whether they will walk in My LAW or not" (v. 4). Interesting. Because this is more proof that God's law was definitely in effect even BEFORE the giving of the Old Covenant at Mount Sinai!
---audrey on 7/14/07

"God proclaiming that the Sabbath day is a holy day isn't a commandment."
---Matthew on 6/24/07
Gen 2:3"And God blessed (spoke good of) the 7th day, set it apart as His own, and HALLOWED it" AMPLIFIED BIBLE

qadash {kaw-dash'}Strongs 6942

1) to be set apart, be consecrated

2) to observe as holy, keep sacred

3) to be observed as holy

When God set apart as holy the 7th day, it meant, observe it as a holy day thereafter.
---Gina7 on 7/14/07

When God set apart as holy the 7th day, it meant, observe it as a holy day thereafter. It is clear by the act of God setting apart the 7th day for holy sacred use that you would thereafter remember this day as Holy and Sacred. There really is "no commandment" needed for those who love God. However, for those who need it spelled out, there is the 4th commandment, stating to "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy" and explains the reasons why, pointing right back to Genesis 2:3.
---Gina7 on 7/14/07

Resting is more than just not going to work. Christian women "rest" on Sundays? They feed the family breakfast, clean up, start lunch, get everyone in the bathtub, teeth brushed, hair combed, good clothes on, and out the door. Teach Sunday School, sing in the choir, come home, make everyone hang up their clothes, get into play clothes, eat lunch, clean up, maybe catch a 30 minute nap before starting dinner, eat, clean up, get everyone to church, then to bed. And they call it a day of rest?
---Rabbi_Dean on 7/14/07

We prepare our large Shabbat meal on Friday afternoon, so there is no cooking when Sabbath arrives. The dirty dishes are placed in the dishwasher, but not washed. Breakfast is cold cereal (kids love it), lunch is a picnic that was made earlier (usually Friday afternoon), then a hot supper is prepared after the sun sets (this would be considered Sunday). This is more restful and lends itself to better quality of listening and applying the worship services, and is truly a day of rest.
---Rabbi_Dean on 7/14/07

Genesis 2
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [a] from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

Steveng no commandment was given here. This is why I said "God proclaiming that the Sabbath day is a holy day isn't a commandment."
---Matthew on 6/24/07

2)Steveng the question I gave "Can you show me where in the Bible God proclaimed the Sabbath must be kept Holy as a commandment before Israel?" is still waiting for an answer. Again God proclaiming the Sabbath day is holy(the 7th day of creation) is not a commandment. He did not say you must rest on this day. He simply said it is a Holy day. The first time in the Bible the words "you must rest on the Sabbath"
is given is Exodus 16:23.
---Matthew on 6/24/07

It would be nice if the Bible gave one example of someone before Israel resting on the Sabbath(it would end this discussion), but it doesn't. I don't believe we must rest on the Sabbath, Steveng, and I never will. Cooking breaks the commandment. So does mowing your lawn,pruning your tree,fixing your TV,cleaning your room,cleaning your bath tub and buying groceries(the Israelites couldn't gather any food on the Sabbath).
---Matthew on 6/24/07

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4) Most who claim they keep the Sabbath don't bcause they believe keeping it Holy is going to Chruch on that day. Never once did God say the Sabbath is a day for worship. No, he said repeatably it is a day of rest. People visited the synagogue on the Sabbath because they had no work to do. We don't have to obey that commandment unless God changed the requirements for keeping it? If he has please give me scripture explaining the new way of keeping the Sabbath Holy.
---Matthew on 6/24/07

6) Steveng, if after my responses you are still in disagreement, can you do me a favor? Agree to disagree? I don't want to debate the Word. It would be unedifying if we did.
---Matthew on 6/24/07

A good case in point is that God did not raise His son from the dead on Shabbat, since He would not break His own day of rest. Sabbath is the queen of days, and was not given to us to for us to keep, but to keep us.
---Rabbi_Dean on 6/19/07
And Christ's rest on the Sabbath Day, was to make the 7th day the memorial of redemption. Christ who created us then rested on 7th day, also rested from redeeming us & rested on same day. The Sabbath, the memorial of creation & redemption.
---Gina7 on 6/23/07

I did not realize I was explaining anything, Shela. I only write what God gives me. But I appreciate your nice comments. You have a nice day.++
---catherine on 6/21/07

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Catherine-Thank you for explaining what you said about Sunday further. I'm glad you weren't thinking that's the day everyone ought to keep special to God. And may you experience great blessings keeping that day special to God!

I don't see the Biblical backup for *God expects His people to keep one day a week for Him and only for Him* especially when Rm.14:5-6 says it's ok to keep everyday alike,but what you're suggesting does sound healthy.

God bless you!
---Sheila on 6/20/07

Matthew: "Can you show me where in the Bible God proclaimed the Sabbath must be kept Holy as a commandment before Israel?"

As Paul says, "let's reason things out." On the Seventh Day... Genesis 2:1-3. God, of course, never forgot it and when He wrote the TC on the tablets, He wanted to be sure the people knew.

God proclaiming that the Sabbath day is a holy day isn't a commandment.

What does the Fourth Commandment mean?
---Steveng on 6/20/07

Rabbi Dean said "Sabbath... was not given to us to for us to keep, but to keep us." Wow! Many work themselves to a frazzle with no reprieve. Thank God for His precious gift of His holy day. Jana I would love to catch that program on 3ABN. I will implement those practices this Sabbath (Friday evening) with my family.
---Geoff on 6/20/07

We should go and read Colossians 2 and clearly see that certain observances and ceremonials are no longer required. (never were by the N.T. Church) Go ahead and do them, no problem, but they are not required. Those who teach the necessity of these are false teachers of the law that we are redeemed from through Christ.
:11. Circumcision.
:14. The ordinances.
:16. What you eat or drink.
:16. Holy days.
:16. Moon phases.
:16. Sabbath days.
:17. Those things were all shadows to the Jews.
---john on 6/20/07

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Rabbi Dean:I witnessed a woman on 3abn satelite tv describing how the Jews celebrate Shabbat begining on Friday night with the is one of the most beautiful of all time when the wife give God thanks then blesses n praise the kids, then the wife n husband to each other to b followed with Psalms readings then meal. What book can you recommend to me about the above? I love to begin celebrating God's Shabbat like is so reverencing and holy...
---jana on 6/20/07

Steveng-There were no Jews or Israelites when God prolaimed the Sabbath Commandments.

Can you show me where in the Bible God proclaimed the Sabbath must be kept Holy as a commandment before Israel? God proclaiming that the Sabbath day is a holy day isn't a commandment.
---Matthew on 6/20/07

Matthew: "Sheila, I believe out of the 10C the Sabbath day one was not meant for us,but for the Jews alone."

The Sabbath was ordained by God BEFORE the Jews or the Israelites came into existance. There were no Jews or Israelites when God prolaimed the Sabbath Commandments. The laws were written in the hearts of man before the hearts became as rock.
---Steveng on 6/19/07

The Israelites were punished by God for being bad, yet they kept the Sabbath commandments. When the Israelites were rewarded by God for being good, they kept all ten of the commandments. If the Israelites did not keep the Sabbath commandment while they were good then God would punish them for not keeping it.

The two commandments that Jesus spoke of, God also spoke of in the OT. It is the summary of the Ten Commandments, which is the summary of all the commandments of Moses and the Prophets.
---Steveng on 6/19/07

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God expects His people to keep one day a week for Him and only for Him. For all I care it can be a Monday.
---catherine on 6/19/07

Catherine-If He wants you to keep Sunday speical to Him,as you have described,then do it! That's certainly in harmony with Rm14:5-6.

If you are saying God has conveyed new scripture to you that EVERYONE ought to NOW keep Sunday special to Him,that's nowhere in His Word,and so I wouldn't believe you.
---Sheila on 6/19/07

Shabbat is/was meant for everyone. Israel was to take the Covenant to the world and shine God's glory to everyone. We are taught that even those in heaven celebrate the Sabbath (Shabbat). A good case in point is that God did not raise His son from the dead on Shabbat, since He would not break His own day of rest. Sabbath is the queen of days, and was not given to us to for us to keep, but to keep us.
---Rabbi_Dean on 6/19/07

I will repeat one more time exactly what God said to me face to face on a Sunday not so long ago. God said, "To keep it Holy and to rest"; then later on He said, "To do only what is necessary". All this as I was hanging clothes on the line and making plans to cut the grass. I am telling all born-again Christians you do as you please, but remember God someday you shall answer to. He expects us to obey all of His Moral laws if we ever expect to live with Him in heaven. Good day!
---catherine on 6/18/07

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Matthew-I agree with your last 2 statements made on 6-18-2007,except that I believe 4thC is about obeying God's voice,&doing things heartily for the glory of God,in Jesus name DAILY.That's right to do,even if it isn't 4thC.

I also believe God will bless those keeping 7thday special to Him(&those doing it a diff. day)when doing it out of faith which worketh thru love,&NOT to be justified.Yes, it bothers me too when people say we MUST keep a particular day special.

Thank you for your insights!
---Sheila on 6/18/07

Sheila, I believe out of the 10C the Sabbath day one was not meant for us,but for the Jews alone. Since every time we work we break the commandment, most who claim to keep it don't. I don't believe one will be judged by the law for trying to keep the Sabbath. I just have a real problem when one says we must keep the Sabbath day when they have mo idea what keeping the Sabbath day is.
---Matthew on 6/18/07


The Sabbath day became the official day for going to the synagogue because no one worked on that day and it became a tradition. Truth is if anyone observes the Sabbath day and tries to keep it holy in their own way(some believe they should go to Church,some actually do no work on the Sabbath,some just do something good for someone else) I believe God would bless that person. Telling others they must keep the Sabbath is different.
---Matthew on 6/18/07

Matthew-Hope we can agree whomever misunderstands Sabbath,you or I,that it doesn't matter.

If you really think there's no Jewish C's in new cov.that are on our hearts cuz they're helpful,& NOT against us as ordinances that were nailed to the cross; it doesn't matter! What matters is that by following C of love, that you're doing other C's too,even if you say you aren't doing them.The parable of the 2 sons shows it's DOING that counts,even if you said you wouldn't do it.
---Sheila on 6/18/07

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Matthew(part2)-You're concerned about me that if I'm trying to keep any C's,I'm to keep ALL the law?But 10C's are repeated in epistles.How can those laws not be on our hearts?Yes,YOU don't see4thC as there in Heb3&4 or even Mt.11:28-30. But SURELY you agree 9 of 10 are repeated to be kept in epistles -right??? As far as I can tell,clarification of the C's on our hearts was used cuz our sinful nature leads us astray.But 9C's[really10&more!] were repeated in the epistles for SOME REASON!(Cont)
---Sheila on 6/18/07

Matthew(part3)-OT Sabbath was for the Jews;ANYONE following the True God,often living among/by the Jews;for all those people's cattle;servants;& even the strangers within their gates.(Ex.20,Dt.5)If you disagree with *ANYONE following the True God,often living among/by the Jews* see the story of Ruth(who's family line Jesus was born of!)&Rahab(Josh2&6).
---Sheila on 6/18/07

Matthew(part4)-EVEN while God DID rest from all His works,He DIDN'T stop working,Jn5:17!That blessing on7thDay creation DOESN'T occur over&over on wkly basis.The blessing exists to be had DAILY.That's why To Day is attached with 7th Day creation in Hb4&To Day is defined as DAILY in Hb3:13.There was NO toil in Eden.It was ALL rest,while *working* or *resting.* That's why Jesus associates the work of His yoke as the REST one has when they come to Him for rest in Mt.11:28-30.
---Sheila on 6/18/07

Matthew-(part5)I do wish you had answered my question *What point are you trying to make about Mt.12?* cuz I'm still curious as to what you were talking about.

Sorry you must think I'm unsaved to be following 10C's & more written on my heart.

I don't know why you think C's were repeated for use in the epistles.But I know as long as you are doing them out of love which worketh thru faith,it doesn't count against you for you to say you DON'T do them.

God bless you!
---Sheila on 6/18/07

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Lee: Circumcising: What does this word mean Biblically...I fail to understand why you think its a physical act when the Bible clearly says differently to you..Circumcising is to repent of have one circumcise him/herself...its not circumcising of human foreskin physically as I understand it. Or do u have other explaination...
---jana on 6/18/07

Shiela what can I say? God was very clear and said that anyone who does work on the Sabbath must be stoned. That commandment was the only commandment in the 10 commandments meant for the Jews and the Jews alone. If you truly want to keep it holy then do what God said to do and do no work on that day and rest. Did God do any work on the seventh day of creation? NO, none, it was a day of rest. God never once said "you must worship me on that day to keep it holy".
---Matthew on 6/18/07

Sheila enough has been giving to you to know that working on the Sabbath breaks the commandment. The Jews knew exactly what God meant when he said you must not do any work nor your animals nor your servants. He said it was a day of rest. It's up to you to understand that now or not. I can't make you understand that. There is no reason for me to go further on the subject because enough passages have been given to you.
---Matthew on 6/18/07

Matthew-Nm15:32-36is a man gathering wood 7thDay knowing he was disobeying what God had said AT THAT TIME.Clearly what was work had been defined for what God wanted them to OBEY 7thDay AT THAT TIME,&it wasn't written in stone.Since result for manna gathering wasn't death,maybe man was testing God(though God said it'd be death,Ex31:14).God defined result AT THAT TIME as DEATH&HOW to do it.

4thC is to hear God's voice&obey it DAILY(Ps95:7,Hb4:7)&working/resting in His yoke NOW(Mt.11:28-30)
---Sheila on 6/17/07

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Matthew-Ex23:10-12,31:14,35:3 is info given regarding 4thC AT THAT TIME.4thC is to OBEY whatever God is commanding AT THAT TIME.

Adam&Eve brought toil cuz of disobedience&doubt.4thC was about showing obedience&faith to enter God's rest that had been lost.Cuz of disobedience&unbelief,God swore they wouldn't enter His rest.But God's blessing of 7thDay of creation NEVER ended&remains to be entered DAILY for those who believe&labor to enter it&come to Jesus for rest by working under His easy yoke.
---Sheila on 6/18/07

Matthew-What point are you trying to make about Mt.12? When Jesus told the Israelites NOT to gather manna on 7thDay, they were to OBEY.When Jesus told His disciples to break off grain heads on 7thDay, they were to OBEY.

He was pointing out the example about David because that was EVEN more grievous than breaking Sabbath by plucking grain from a field (for sure according to how the Pharisees viewed it).If they couldn't condemn David, they certainly couldn't condemn Jesus(Who is Lord of the Sabbath!)
---Sheila on 6/17/07

Steveng - *All ten commandments are sprinkled throughout the New Testament - thou shalt not lie, steal, covet, have idols,etc. Honor your mother and father. Pray to God only, etc.*

And where in the NT is there the commandment that the church is to observe the Sababth?

In fact, you have Romans 14:5 that states the observance of any day is optional. To observe the Sababth commandment one would have to 'esteem one day about another'; contrary to what is stated.
---lee on 6/17/07

Jerry: "Thus, you are still arguing about something that does not exist."

On the contrary, the Ten Commandments are for the Jews and the Christians. The two commandments Jesus said are just a summary of the Ten Commandments in the OT. Even God in the OT says the same two commandments Jesus spoke of. All ten commandments are sprinkled throughout the New Testament - thou shalt not lie, steal, covet, have idols,etc. Honor your mother and father. Pray to God only, etc.
---Steveng on 6/16/07

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catherine - agree with Tozer that "idolatry is at the bottom a libel on his [God's] character".

But even those that worship what He has created - say the Sabbath commandment - can be found guilty of idolatry much like the Nehushtan Moses created (Num. 21:8) & Hezekiah destroyed. 2Kings 18:4
---lee on 6/16/07

Jerry-Christianity is*The religion based on the life&teachings of Jesus Christ*, American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy,Third Edition.

Saying christianity's history DOESN'T begin with OT is absurd! Jesus taught in Eden.He taught 10C's to Isreal,&more.At times He used angels&Moses to teach(or someone)but it's His teachings!

Christian 10C NO LONGER have law of death attached with them,Rm8:2.

Note:There's MORE C's than 10C's on our hearts!
---Sheila on 6/16/07

Matthew 12
3He answered, "Haven't you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated breadwhich was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5Or haven't you read in the Law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple desecrate the day and yet are innocent?
---Matthew on 6/16/07

*the Adventist belief that one is saved eternally by obedience to law*

I am blown away that you should post such fallacies! It's tantamount to claiming Catholics reject the pope!
You continue to prove to all that you know nothing about SDA beliefs! And it is not for lack of information, as so many posts by so many people have attempted to show you what SDAs truly believe.
It leaves one to believe that your intent is to wilfully mislead others. Shame, and certainly not Christian-like!
---Michel on 6/16/07

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Sheila-Notice in Ex20&Dt5 that rest is defined as *no work,* but *work* is NOT defined.

Look over Numbers 15:32-36 of which I gave. It is a clear example of what kind of work God was talking about.
---Matthew on 6/16/07

Exodus 10:
"For six years you are to sow your fields and harvest the crops, 11 but during the seventh year let the land lie unplowed and unused. Then the poor among your people may get food from it, and the wild animals may eat what they leave. Do the same with your vineyard and your olive grove.
12 "Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and the alien as well, may be refreshed.
---Matthew on 6/16/07

Exodus 31:14
" 'Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it must be put to death; whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from his people.

Exodus 35:3
Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day."
---Matthew on 6/16/07

Numbers 15
32And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

33And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.

34And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.

35And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
---Matthew on 6/16/07

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Sheila: What you just described are what some here would call the "Jewish" Ten Commandments. How are they different for the Christian? Note: not the content but the location is different for the Christian (heart vs. stone), but there are no "Christian" Ten Commandments per se. Thus, you are still arguing about something that does not exist.
---Jerry on 6/16/07

The first Commandment::Thou shalt have no other gods before me." A.W. Tozer said,"Among the sins to which the human heart is prone, Hardly any other is more hateful to God than idolatry, Because idolatry is at the bottom a libel on his character. The idolatrous heart, assumes that God is other than He is-in itself a Monstrous Sin.
---catherine on 6/16/07

Mikey, the original books of the Bible were not numbered by Chapter and Verse. This was developed much later and some translations are broken down differently by chapter and verse. Most modern English Bibles are a arranged the same way now, but your Grandmother's Bible might be still follow an older style. I was raised with a Cathlic Bible in my home and I have read the Protestant Bibles and compared them side by side. The actual commandments are identical in both.
---lorra8574 on 6/15/07

Matthew-I disagree with you regarding working on weekly 7thDay.The priest HAD to work on Sabbath*Or have ye not read...priests in the temple profane the sabbath,are blameless?* Mt.12:5.
There ARE priests in the new cov,us.*Ye also,as lively stones,are built up a spiritual house,an holy priesthood,to offer up spiritual sacrifices...*1Pe2:5.
ALL we do EVERYDAY is for God!As priests,it's our job!
---Sheila on 6/15/07

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Matthew-(part2)Notice in Ex20&Dt5 that rest is defined as *no work,* but *work* is NOT defined.Notice in Eden there was NO toil,thus even *work* was rest.True Sabbath is the rest Jesus describes in Mt11:28-30 where neither rest or work is a toil&so are the SAME(kids know concept of how hard it can be to rest).4thC is about obeying as told to David Ps95:7,Hb4:7;&it's DAILY,Hb3:13.
---Sheila on 6/15/07

Matthew-(part3)Israel in OT was to obey what God said was work(outside of being within the commandment&thus what God tells us to do at ANY time regardless of day,we do it).He redefined *work*in NT as being the same as rest under Jesus'yoke!We're to do ALL in Jesus' name(Col.3:17),heartily,as to the Lord ( Col.3:23).

So much tells us that under new cov,we're to seek Sabbath rest in Jesus EVERYDAY:
---Sheila on 6/15/07

Matthew-(Part 4)
1.It was sin that removed us from the lack of toil(in rest or work) in Eden.&it is the debt of our sin paid by Christ that we may come to Him&have His easy yoke lacking toil in rest or work.
2.God's 7thDay blessing isn't weekly,it's DAILY.He didn't begin His 6days work again,though He's always working,Jn.5:17&we're to do likewise,Hb4:10
3.We're a royal priesthood in new cov.Old cov priests worked DAILY(7thDay too),so ought we!
---Sheila on 6/15/07

Matthew-(Part 5)
4.&even if we weren't priests,Jesus said work&rest are the SAME under His yoke.His command *Come* is present tense&NOT exclusive to wkly 7thDay.
5.We're NOT commanded to keep weekly 7thDay special ANYWHERE in NT,yet other 9C's are commanded.4thC IS commanded to exceed the righteousness of the pharisees by keeping it EVERYDAY.
---Sheila on 6/15/07

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Steven i think the reason why churches get big is b/c...when people lead others to the Lord its essential that the person that just got saved find a church so they just invite them to their church...and they come and after a while your church gets full...thats why there is small groups...its like a house church but not on sunday or saturday or whatever day you regularly go to church
---mark_B. on 6/15/07

Mark B-You're welcome! I wasn't sure if it was all about the same thing, but it seemed to be.

Yes, I agree with you *...even if you feel like the other person is living a lie you should still strive for peace*

Tit3: 2*To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness[perfect courtesy]unto all men.*(A great verse Lee recently posted)
---Sheila on 6/15/07

Jana: "...a home is not adequate enough to hold 200 people let alone 50."

Churches today is not the churches the early Christians built. They were home churches where everyone knew each other. In a large church most people don't know each other. It's hard to encourage one another, to build each other up. Why does a church need to be so large? A small group of about 6 to 8 people is all that's needed. If it get too big then divide it. It's the quality of the people not the quantity.
---Steveng on 6/15/07

Hundreds of years ago, Catholic leadership decided to interpret, condense & modify the Hebrew translations.

They did not heed the warning:

Rev 22:18 ...unto every man that heareth the words...of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city...
---a_servant on 6/15/07

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Sabbath --The Jewish day of worship and rest, established when God rested after the six days of Creation. The O.T. Sabbath fell on the seventh day of the week, or our Saturday. Later, Christian chosed Sunday because of Christ's resurrection. The fourth of the Ten Commandments calls for the Sabbath to be observed and "kept Holy".
---catherine on 6/15/07

Hey thanx sheila never thought of Eph 4:5 like that...makes great sense though...Bringing all to one God but 3 persons eh
2 covenants but bring them together into 1 to create peace...which is definately not happening on this blog, even if you feel like the other person is living a lie you should still strive for peace
---mark_B. on 6/15/07

Now all you need to do Jana is find in the OT where it says. The Sabbath day is about going to Church. DOes God change? If it was a day of rest then it remains a day of rest. You say God knew we would work. YEs! Thats why the sabbath day as a day of rest was nailed to the Cross.
---Matthew on 6/15/07

Do you have to work on the Sabbath Jana. No you don't. Find a job where you don't have to. DO you have to cook? No. If this how the Sabbath was originally kept why aren't you doing the same?

Exodus 16:23
And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
---Matthew on 6/15/07

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Exodus 20:10
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Why did God sanctify the Sabbath day? BEcause he rested on that day.

---Matthew on 6/15/07

Exodus 31:14
Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Do you really have to work on the Sabbath? No. Find a job that won't force you to work on the Sabbath or you will continue breaking the commandment.
---Matthew on 6/15/07

NO WHERE in the OT does God say Sabbath is a day of worship and that worshipping on a different day breaks that commandment. Sabbath was the day of worship in the NT because it became a tradition(it was the only day no one could work), not because God commanded it.

Exodus 31:15
Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
---Matthew on 6/15/07

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