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Catholic Bishops Don't Marry

"The Catholic Church says that 'Bishops' must not be married: whereas the scripture shows that Bishops must not only be married but must also have children (1 Timothy 3:2-4; Titus 1:5-7). Is this scripture a problem for Catholics?

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 ---Mima on 4/16/07
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It isn't a problem for most of them because they follow the doctrine of the Catholic Church as supreme authority,not the Bible. Throughout the life of the RCC a bunch of men have a meeting,call it official,and decide what will be used as RC doctrine and what won't,thats a simplified version of what happens but thats the way it goes. Either members follow and obey or get put out of the church.
---Darlene_1 on 11/2/08

johnlovesginalyn: There is nothing wrong with asking questions, especially when sincere. And no offence in the truth.

Inheritance may have been an issue, but as priests do not actually own church property the only ones hurt would be the wife and children. But I still think that a celibate priesthood is what we need now with our current drive towards the carnal. We need that example more than we ever did before.
---lorra8574 on 4/24/07

---lorra8574 on 4/23/07
I agree, they are good references.
I can't water down these references. I am very much catholic, in fact i went to confession today. Sometimes i wonder does the church want the priests to be without a family so that no one inherits the land except the church.
I don't like to say such a crude thing but it makes sence.
I'm so sorry if this suggestion is offensive to any, i just want to know the truth
---johnlovesginalyn on 4/24/07

(i)Rebecca_D understanding and interpretation are two very different things. Our understanding may be at differnt levels of maturity that is agreed; our interpretation can not have varying degrees of range. One word, one spirit, one God. For example, your interpretation of scripture has led you to say things such as, "God would rather have you happy than in a loveless marriage."
---Ryan_Z on 4/24/07

(ii) Rebecca_D, I have never interpreted anywhere in God's word to say anything that comes close to agreeing with your interpretation. When God changes our heart He changes our minds as well. He brings our carnal mind into accord with HIs spirit; why do you think He tells us to gird our minds and crucify our flesh? So yes, we must be of one mind, we are already of one spirit.
---Ryan_Z on 4/24/07

johnlovesginalyn: I would also point out that Paul was a presbyter/priest but was not married.
---lorra8574 on 4/23/07

Ryan Z: If I get a different understanding from scriptures than you do, that doesn't make me right and you wrong or vice versa. I may get a greater or deeper understanding on scriptures than other people and vice versa. Our spiritual mind should be in one mind and one accord. Our carnal minds however can't be, because it is an emenity against God. And our carnal minds can't comprehened God's word. The way Christians come together in one mind is our spirit agreeing with one another, not our carnal minds.
---Rebecca_D on 4/23/07

RebeccaD:NOT Robots who have no soul but Children."For as such as these is the kingdom made of" .Not lawyers or intelligent as those are bloated & full of self esteem & Pomp& Pride.
---Emcee on 4/23/07

If God wanted us to think alike and have the same beliefs, he would have made us robots.
---Rebecca_D on 4/22/07

So God does not want us to be of one mind and think alike as Christians. You know you have just equated being a Christian to "Being a robot." If we are all learning from the same Spirit how can there be any degree of dissention?
---Ryan_Z on 4/23/07

johnlovesginalyn: here are some more amazing references:

Acts 2:38
Acts 8:36-38 water = baptism
Acts 10:47 baptism after receiving Holy Ghost as a sign
Mark 16:16 who ever believes AND is baptized will be saved.

Baptism is done with water and is for the remission of sins and is linked to salvation, yet how many here believe that this is no longer necessary and people just need to say Lord Lord and do nothing?
---lorra8574 on 4/23/07

johnlovesginalyn - the Bible also clearly states that women must cover their heads when praying. I still see some older Catholic women with head scarves in church, and some Protestant sects do this all of the time, but I have not seen this done amongst Evangelicals. Who gets to pick which rules are permanent and which can be modified and by whom?
---lorra8574 on 4/23/07

these are quite amazing references, it clearly states they should have a wife. Peter the rock of the church was married. There are many reasons why the church does not allow married men but by these references are explicit in saying bishops should be married, and i would say this implicitly implies priests
---johnlovesginalyn on 4/23/07

Ryan Z: Just because you and I don't agree on some things, that doesn't mean that I don't believe in being in one mind in Christ. I gave scriptures backing up my statements. If one doesn't read or go in depth to get a better understanding, that isn't my fault. the Holy Ghost teaches me the word of God. what I understand certain verses, someone else may get a different meaning. If God wanted us to think alike and have the same beliefs, he would have made us robots.
---Rebecca_D on 4/22/07

gynn8435, I am a Catholic and I have been using the KJV for most of my posts here. I have a KJV NT and Psalms in my purse, and a NKJV Catholic Edition on my bookshelf. I do not like the NIV and the NRSV, and the New World Translation, but the KJV has never been a problem other than being short a few books.
---lorra8574 on 4/20/07

Rebecca_D it is unfortunate that you discard the command that we are to be of one mind in Christ.
---Ryan_Z on 4/20/07

Ryan Z. No, my interpretations on these verses came from my bible helps, references. I don't find myself in getting into trouble as you put it. It doesn't matter if anyone agrees with me or not. I know what I understand and how the Holy Ghost teaches me to understand.
---Rebecca_D on 4/20/07

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Direct to the Blog question. The early Church had reason to encourage marriage among their bishops. It is sensible that responsible fatherhood is a good prerequisit for fathering a parish community. It was even more important back then when a lot of early Christians and some sects of Jews were forsaking marriage for religious aestheticisim. When Jesus spoke of men making themselves eunuchs for the Kingdom, some took Him literally.
---lorra8574 on 4/20/07

Blog P2. Currently, we live in an age where people are forsaking chastity for casual sex. Even those who marry are sometimes seeking affairs or other sinful temptations. Restraint is the greater need now. A presbyter needs to be able to set a good example for his flock. Before marriage was that good example, not we need examples of chastity, of patience and a willingness to set aside earthly pleasure for heavenly treasure.
---lorra8574 on 4/20/07

Ashley, FYI gossip is a sin. And movies do not count as evidence.

Yes in rare cases, Nuns have violated their vows and so have priests - Martin Luther left the priesthood to marry a nun had raised a family with her. The RCC does not go around murdering nuns who get pregnant.
---lorra8574 on 4/18/07

Rebecca_D many present differing views from yours. i have noticed that much of your interpretation of scripture is your own personal interpretation, that is what gets you in trouble here with many of the bretheren.
---Ryan_Z on 4/17/07

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Jack: on almost every blog you try to argue with me. I gave scriptures backing up my statements. But it seems as if your to lazy to even look those up and read them yourself. If you wish to argue, take it up with God. I provided the truth.
---Rebecca_D on 4/17/07

** A Bishop is the same as an Elder. **

The dictionary disagrees with RebeccaD, unless a bridge is the same as a house and a cat is the same as a dog.

The hierarchical ministry of the church that JEsus founded is threefold: Bishops, Presbyters, and Deacons with minor orders that vary in time and place.
---Jack on 4/17/07

Wow! Some lucky girl.
---Elder on 4/16/07

Does it make a difference to your daily life whether or not a Catholic Bishop is married? Since you are obviously not Catholic I don't see how it could. I also don't see how it further's your walk with Jesus to be concerned about it. Why are you?

---grace3869 on 4/16/07

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A Bishop is the same as an Elder. Acts 20:17-28, 1 Pe 5:1-2. The name Bishop means an overseer, Php 1:1, Acts 20:28, 1 Tim 2:2-7, Titus 1:5-11. It is also a title of Jesus, 1 Peter 2:25.
---Rebecca_D on 4/16/07

Actually, Mima, St. Paul was neither married nor produced children.

No one denies that the Latin practice of a celibate clergy is a DISCIPLINARY and not doctrinal issue.

FWIW, in Orthodoxy, while bishops are unmarried, many are widowers.

Something your pastor's wife will probably never tell you is the strain her husband's vocation has on their marriage and family life.
---Jack on 4/16/07

I believe that the bible is the true word of God and that is what I live by. I am not a Catholic and does not know a lot concerning Catholisism The scriptues noted here are from the King James Version. If the Catholics does not believe in the KJV bible and have their own rules then I believe that they do have a problem with the scriptures mentioned.
---gynn8435 on 4/16/07

It is easier for many people in the world to deny scriptures than accept them as truth. That happens with people belonging to many churchs in the world today, not just the catholic church. Many nuns become pregnant and are killed to silence the sin from the world. Priests and bishops confess the sin to themselves, forgive themselves and carry on as though nothing happened. Many lives though are destroyed forever. read Rev. chapter 17 of the KJV as food for thought.
---ashley on 4/16/07

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