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Concerning the teaching of the 'age of accountability'. From what I have found this teaching has its origin rooted in Greek Philosophy, specifically Aristotle. Since this is a teaching of Greek Philosophy is it wise to teach it as Christian doctrine?

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 ---Ryan_Z on 4/27/07
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Human Growth and Development teaches the stages a child goes through as they grow up, and it says children aren't capable of abstract thinking until about 11 years old. That means also they can't fully grasp the conquences of what sin really means. They can't be accountable for what they don't understand, not guilty until they understand what sin is and what happens to those who sin. Why teach it at all,it's not in the Bible. Just teach the Word and make them love it and God, which shows how to behave.
---Darlene_1 on 3/15/08

I have noticed, when someone is ticked off, immediately they use that person's name until they can rub their nose in it. It's happened numerous times. I know who it is. Their maturity level is measured in gerbil or mouse years, though they claim decades of being a mature Christian with discernment.
The root system is still shallow.
---Fraser on 5/3/07

Raine, I posted under the name 'Ryan' for quite some time, then another 'Ryan' came along. So I started uing the name 'Ryan_Z', the first letter of my last name. So now 'Ryan' and 'Ryan_Z' are two different people.
---Ryan_Z on 5/2/07

Raine, however the new 'Ryan' and myself seem to have similar positions, from what I've gathered from several of his posts, it's almost confusing to myself, because I read his posts and say to myself, "Self, that sounds like something I would say." It must go with the name.
---Ryan_Z on 5/2/07

Ryan Z, are you a second Ryan?

There was 'Ryan', and I don't remember his beliefs being as 'unique' as yours.
---Raine on 5/2/07


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Billy, my dear and beloved friend, I'll miss you. I am sad to see you go you have brought some intersting perspectives that I am now seeking. Thank you for all your thought provoking posts and wonderful conversations. Your friend Ryan.
---Ryan_Z on 5/1/07


I wont be posting any more on CN except for one other blog which will soon reach a conclusion. I fell I need to move on. Keep a heart to know Gods truths despite being unpopular in mans eyes. God bless you and all the others on CN.
---Billy on 5/1/07

Ryan: It is okay to ask someone where scriptures are. but if you said you study the bible daily, you would know where such things are, instead of asking if it is in the bible.
---Rebecca_D on 5/1/07

catherine, **By the way, Babies has a pure heart...**

This is a claim of humanism not biblical accuracy. There has only been one born with a pure heart and He was crucified on a cross for the sins of the world. I don't think the Father would like you equating all human babies to His only begotten SOn.
---Ryan_Z on 5/1/07

I looked up accountabilty in the Bible dictonary, And it sent me to the word responsibilty. So yes, God knows at what age everyone is when people knows right from wrong. He created each one of us. By the way, Babies has a pure heart so guess what, babies are going to heaven. Thank goodness that is settle. One more time>>>Babies they, a pure heart, going to heaven.
---catherine on 4/30/07

#2 Cynthia 1, What people try to do with these verses in Matthew is like saying since Christ was likened unto a rock that must mean He is physically a rock, that is absurd. Christ is likened unto a rock, He is not actually a rock. The rock is used as an analogy just as Christ used children as an analogy.
---Ryan_Z on 4/30/07

#1 Cynthia 1, I find that people constantly try to use those verses in Matthew to prove that all children go to heaven, this is a false interpretation of these verses. Christ was making an analogy. The disciples were arguing who would be the greatest in heaven and Christ used the example of a child to show them their folly. We are to become 'as' children; not children of flesh and blood but children to the Father in the SPirit.
---Ryan_Z on 4/30/07

#1 Rebecca_D asking people to provide scripture to prove what their saying is true is not a horrible request. Actually I study the WOrd of God daily. This is why I ask this question, I have combed the scriptures repeatedly and I have found no evidence of the teaching that there is an 'age of accountability' to ask other brothers and sisters in the Lord what they have found is not showing ignorance on my part.
---Ryan_Z on 4/30/07

#2 Rebecca_D, As Christians shouldn't we discuss scripture? DO you believe it is possible for every Christian to have a photographic memory of the entire bible? Is this your common response to people when they ask you for scripture to support your claims?
---Ryan_Z on 4/30/07

Ryan Z: with asking such questions, just proves that you do not study the word of God very much. Because of your ignorance, you don't understand the word of God. And when someone gives you scripture backing up their statements, you question it because of lack of understanding and knowledge in the word of God.
---Rebecca_D on 4/29/07

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The age of accountability has its origins from the Bible, Children under the age of accountability are saved according to Matthew 18:1-10; 19:14 However, the exact age of accountablility is not known. And I beleive is variable due to different intelligence levels, and those mentally challenged etc.
---Cynthia_1 on 4/29/07

Norma, you say, "I am stuck on a theme." This may be true and the reason is this subject is one subject that is handled with the most blatant dishonesty withn supposedly 'christian' circles. I am not attempting to be a 'Righteous Judge' I am seeking truth found within scripture. You also say, "You want to condemn babies to sheol..." Doesn't the bible say all will go to Sheol to await resurrection?
---Ryan_Z on 4/29/07

john, in the case of the 'age of accountability' where does scripture agree with Greek Philosophy?
---Ryan_Z on 4/29/07

If Greek phylosophy disagrees with Scripture then ignore it. If it agrees with Scripture then there is no problem is there?
---john on 4/28/07

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Between the ages of 9-11, some younger, our brains are rewired. Certain hormones are released in hypothalamus gland.
We learn to reason.
Studies show that if trauma happens before puberty, adrenaline can push away this process and in simple terms, it's called arrested development. Trauma can keep someone as a child. Trauma such as emotional/physical abuse, incest/molestation/rejection.
---Norma on 4/28/07

Adults with arrested development often cannot resolve anger and become abusers or develop a pseudo personality.
Adrenaline pushes away the growing up process, and they stay as a child in an adult body. The hormones do not move in as they should.
When they marry, they are children trying to raise a family, often with unresolved anger. The abusive anger escalation pattern is there. You can see it in 50 year olds that are still children. They stay as a child.
---Norma on 4/28/07

The rewiring of brains at puberty is not a false process. The hypothalamus which is emotional and functional barometer/control unit of the brain controlling things like body temperature, hormones, metabolism. The hypothalamus influences emotions chemically as well as maintaining function.

The amygdala which is thought to be involved more directly in emotion; 30 years ago, violent prisoners had their amygdala removed to remove violent tendencies. The effects were often only temporary.
---Norma on 4/28/07

In a normal puberty, our brains change, we are able to understand, grow up, resolve anger, move from helplessness to the ability to make decisions.
There are 50 year olds that cannot make decisions, reason soundly, or deal with issues without constant supervision/direction. Arrested development in the brain.
---Norma on 4/28/07

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Some children develop much sooner, their minds are 'renewed'. They understand as an adult, and are capable of making the life changing decision to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
---Norma on 4/28/07

For those stuck in arrested development, and have an awareness of it, ask God to rewire your brain. Renew your mind with the Word of God, ask God to send the hormones over to your hypothalamus so that you're not operating off your adrenaline. If you take medication, you can still ask God to deliver the right amounts. God Bless you.
---Norma on 4/28/07

Ryan, you're stuck on a theme.
You are definitely not the Righteous Judge.
You want to condemn babies to sheol, and now you're wondering about gehenna, hades, tartarus. The unseen world of departed spirits, eternal damnation, tormenting fire which never lets up and never ends.
Why not concentrate on keeping yourself out of all of those places and leave the judging to God.
---Norma on 4/28/07

Darlene, **They can't be accountable for what they don't understand, not guilty until they understand what sin is and what happens to those who sin.**

Where is this thought endorsed in the WOrd of GOd?
---Ryan_Z on 4/28/07

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