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Spankings Lead To Police Call

The Bible teaches in Proverbs 13:24, He who {refrains from spanking} spareth his rod HATETH his son; but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. meaning [early, speedily, occasionaly] How would you respond, if your spouse, called the police on you, each time you tried to follow this scripture.

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 ---Cynthia_1 on 4/29/07
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Hay Chris I am in the same situation my wife disrespects me in front of the kids so they have no respect because they think it ok
---Vernon on 7/19/07

The bible says, spare the rod, spoil the child. The bible also says that there are ways that seem right to a man but in the end is death. Stick with the scriptures and if you do get advice from others make sure that they are sticking to the scriptures in there advice and not there own fleshly wisdom which is usually wrong when lined up with the word of God. In the matchless name of Jesus Christ.
---queen on 7/9/07

Your husband will reap what he has sown. Every rebellious, dishonorable, disrespectful, action your husband encourages your child to display towards you, will eventually come back on him, and it may be much harsher.
---Chris on 7/8/07

End you marriage?
Guard your conversation, apply love and wait! Be careful that you do not think tooo Highly of yourself and in the pride of things left your husband behind.
At one point you loved him didn't you and he loved you, don't you remember that. Think on the good things and try to ignore what he has become.
The same effort it took to help him decrease is possibly double the effort to allow him to increase in the Lord and to save your household from satan.
---Carla5754 on 5/22/07

There is a right way to discipline and a wrong way. There is nothing wrong with a parent correcting their children. But if the parent isn't careful, the child will grow up in fear. When my kids does not listen, I count to three. If I get to three, and they still don't listen. I swat them on the butt. I don't use belts, switches or anything like that. To me that is abuse. But a parent can correct their children and it not be abuse. Satan will use your spouse, children to get to you.
---Rebecca_D on 5/10/07

Guys scare me, I guess I have never been able to trust any, But if it works for you, I see no problem dating, I do see a problem marrying however.
---Cynthia_1 on 5/10/07
The above quote was posted on another blog. Until you can trust men, you will never have a good marriage and will continue to go from one counselor to another until you finally realize that it is you who has the problem. I will pray for you, your husband and your children that you will submit to the Lord on this situation.
---Susie on 5/10/07

My second major in College was Early Childhood Education. I am fully aware that what works on one child has no effect whatsoever on another child standing in the corner does about much good as standing in the movie ticket line. zippo. zero. absolutely uneffective.
---Cynthia_1 on 5/10/07

Thankyou for your input but I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ: for it is the Power of God unto salvation. I'd rather have Gods plan then yours.

I will continue to be the Proverbs 13. woman.
---Cynthia_1 on 5/10/07

By they way I did go for counseling on this issue and because my husband is guilty of turning my son against me, telling him he does not need to obey his mother, when I tell him to brush his teeth etc. and says I don't have to listen to you. The counselor said my husband is guilty here of a form of child abuse, when My husband applauds my son every time he disrespects me. This now makes the fourth counselor I have gone to, all have told me to end this marriage.
---Cynthia_1 on 5/10/07

I found that having my children stand in a corner worked much better than anything else. Using a strong, authoritative voice also helps a great deal. If you laugh and joke when you give a child direction, they will just think you are their friend, not their mother.
---Susie on 5/4/07

If you have children that behave perfect and you live in the perfect world where your child will never get into trouble, never get to be picked up by the police for unreasonable behavior give God thanks and praise. Where I live (The real world) with common sense/order one can spank a child or pay for professional help if the situation becomes intolerable. Everyone situation is different The MOST IMPORTANT thing is maturity and sensibility, you Obviously/ Definitely DO NOT ABUSE a Child using Violence!
---Carla5754 on 5/4/07

A mother of 5 children and although I am not always allowed a reply on this thread, I have two adult boys who tried hard to push their luck and despite being several feet bigger than me, the manners they were taught earlier on when they look back they laugh and say Mom you you didn't joke but here we are ''today'' Both on their way to University with their friends no children and uttermost respect for law and order( to God be the Glory) and that is with the memory of the spatula on their backsides lol
---Carla5754 on 5/4/07

I was wondering mabe you could try sending your children to their bedroom instead for a while. Or mabe ground them. The rod can be any kind of discipline. The rod doesn't have to be a spanking or worse. [I looked it up one time].
---catherine on 5/3/07

Cynthia....Will you be following God or those counselors you keep going to? God doesn't tell anyone to BEAT their children. I'm those counselors don't tell you to do that either.
---Susie on 5/3/07

Okay, I'll say in a different way. If I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the kids were being harmed in any way, I'd call the law. right now my husband had to go with CPS on a couple, because of neglect to the children. And there was neglect in the home among other things.
---Rebecca_D on 5/2/07

Rebecca, not too quickly, remember when that happened to you, someone called CP and you were very upset.
---Bob on 5/2/07

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Madison, my question is stated exactly how I mean to say it. God has given us instructions on disciplining our children, and I should be able to do this in love without my husband going against what the Bible says. If a husband does not submit himself to God and His Authority, then I do not submit myself to my husbands authority. And Mary, three Christian therapists told me to leave him. But I sacrifice for my kids. And feel I am doing the right thing for now anyway.
---Cynthia_1 on 5/2/07

If I thought the child was in danger, I'd call the law on the parents. To many people want to help but don't want to get involved. They can't have it both ways.
---Rebecca_D on 5/1/07

Cynthia: Your original post had to do with the discipline of children. You said nothing about an abusive or deranged husband. Of course, I would advise someone with such a spouse to seek their safety first and foremost. Stick to the facts of the question, or start another blog with the real problem at hand.
---Madison1101 on 5/1/07

Madison, Hypothetically speaking, Many woman are married to Psycho, Wackos, Mass murderers, Rapists, Pedophyles, Woman beaters, Haters of woman, Sadistic and lying conmen, Dangerous and Harmful husbands that would like nothing more than to see their wives suffer anguish and death, Would you give this advice to them?
---Cynthia_1 on 5/1/07

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As a victim of beatings as a child, I would applaud the parents who called the police when you hit your child. The only thing that hitting teaches is to be mean, cruel and vicious.
---Susie on 4/30/07

Hi Cynthia; you have my sympathies dear. But I would say the biggest concern for your children isn't whether or not they get spanked as needed--but whether they see their parents love each other. My ex was abusive to me so I can relate to not being loved and respected; have you considered counseling with your pastor? God bless you.
---Mary on 5/1/07

Cynthia, I am not suggesting becoming a doormat. Obedience to the Lord is not conditional or optional. Submission in marriage is not based on whether we feel we are loved by our husbands. I argued way too many times with my husband about the discipline of our children, and I was wrong to not trust God that my husband was the head of our household.

You have to decide whether to trust God for what the Word says about your marriage and who is really the head of your household.
---Madison1101 on 4/30/07

Charles you make me laugh... to forget about my dragonflies, ufos....etc. And Peter the answer is yes you are right on target. Madison, I am no floormat, the Bible says for husbands and wives to submit themselves to each other. I would never have a problem submiting to a husband if I knew that he loved me. Got an A in psychology, and an A in Sociology when I went to college, but must say feel so inadequate as a mother when incessent disrespect is staring me right in the face.
---Cynthia_1 on 4/30/07

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Parents must not only tell their children what is good and evil, but they must chide them and correct them too, if need be. If a reproof will serve without the rod, it is well, but the rod must never be used without a rational and grave reproof: and then it will give wisdom.>>> Now I do not care how many scriptures some religious nut can come up with, the rod does not mean, in other words, God never advocates taking a stick or a limb or a whip or something made out of iron to beat a child with.
---catherine on 4/29/07

Both Christins and non-Christian have abused this scripture. Only twice in my life was I ever spanked. My parents usually found a more effective way to discipline me. Here are some guidelines to consider before spanking a child: their age, is there a better way to discipline, (not punish) a child? Count to 10 before doing anything, stay clam, etc. - but I only have 85 words. What would be best is to discuss with the spouce what they think is a good form of discipline before its even needed.
---wivv on 4/29/07

Obviously you have shown her the Scriptures on this. Is she an unbeliever? Then it's no wonder she disagrees. If your spanking is done in anger and if it is too hard maybe you should tame down. Kids are not to be beaten. My dad beat the daylights out of me once and my mom called for help too. If that's what you are doing then I may not blame her but if all you're doing is a simple correction then you are in your right to do it.
---john on 4/29/07

Why do people cling to things in the Old Testament when it suits their purposes. Either you are a New Testament Christian under the Law of Love and all that entails or a Jew type if you follow the OT. I'd say stop whipping your child,it borders on abuse. Bible;Love suffers long and is kind, a kind word turneth away wrath. Ephesians 6:4 provoke not children to wrath,(read rest in Bible). Co l3:21 Father's provoke not your children to anger lest they become discouraged.
---Darlene_1 on 4/29/07

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Cynthia 1, didn't you tell us in the beginning he had some mental/emotional problems?
---Peter/Forrest on 4/29/07

This is where the rubber meets the road, Cynthia 1.

Lay aside all distractions - UFO's, new earths, new moons, blue moons, and new suns.

We have to face the music, today.

You have talked about your husband in the past, and your vast knowledge of spiritual matters and the Word.
---Charles on 4/29/07

Rely on the power twins, fasting and prayer.

Forget the dragonflys, your safety in the midst of an escalating situation is paramount. Lay yourself on the mercy of Jesus Christ and ask for help. God will deliver you.
---Charles on 4/29/07

You have told us much, so I'm not spilling the beans. You said you were moving back to the states. I'm not sure if that was alone with the kids. I hope you will be leaving there soon. Keep your wits about you, nothing radical until this anger situation is resolved.
---Charles on 4/29/07

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