Pastor Stealing The Money
Our pastor has decided (despite members protests) he will shut the church down, sell the building and will head the "corporation." He's asked the only remaining trustee to resign so an "apostle" can take over. How can I stop him from running across the country with the assets?
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---marie on 5/21/07
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Hire a lawyer immediately! This is no pastor, this is a sleazy con artist passing as a pastor and should be treated, as such. I would not give him another penny of my money.The members should join together and stop this man before he run off with everything! Or the trustees/deacons should know what to do. This shows why christians are so disillusioned with the churches of today. Unbelievers are having a field day with this kind of thing but never fear: God see everything that is going on. This hypocrite will pay handsomely, one day. For all he has done and the crooked things he has inflicted on the church of God. It is going to be a terrible day and time this fiend will have to face.One day soon. I pity this man.
---Robyn on 7/30/11|
this man needs legal action against him. The "preacher" I knew who did that lived to be 93 years old and past all his stash to his family. God does know what this man is doing and he will give account someday but in the meantime, he needs to go to prison.
---shira3877 on 7/17/11|
My take on the matter though is to leave him alone with his greed and the almighty
---jody on 7/16/11
Back in the 70's I read a book by Harold Hill. (How to Live Like a Kings Kid). In it, I believe, was a story of a traveling evangelist who preached at on of the revivals. He whooped and hollered and got the audience to give lots of money, and then greedily scooped up all the money for himself. Hill had the ushers and others just stand back and let him do it. Later they found out the evangelist died a lonely, miserable life, being totally broke.
The moral: God is well aware of what is happening and HE will take care of it. We should pray for this "pastor".
---NurseRobert on 7/17/11|
As other bloggers have indicated, there are legal steps that you can take to make this man "pay" for what he has done and is doing. My take on the matter though is to leave him alone with his greed and the almighty Father will deal with him. Pray for him. He really does not understand the scope of this atrocity.. He has lost sight and is blind. He has forgotten that we do not belong to this world but we are simply passing through and we really belong to the Kingdom of God which is spirit and not flesh. I feel bad for him. What a mess.
---jody on 7/16/11|
I know a preacher (deseased, bless his heart) who started churches then desolved them according to his wishes. My friend donated a building to that ministry and when he told the pastor he wanted it back, (church desolved already), the pastor told him it wasn't his anymore. That preacher died a millionaire. This is the truth.
---shira3877 on 7/16/11|
Is it his own church? If it's his own church he can sell it, and the people will need to find another place to have their church. Nonetheless, it's not his money, but belongs to all the people which was collected to care for the people, so along with the elders go and confront him and tell him that he is fired from ministering to these people, and demand that he fork over every penny of the people's money. If he refuses, call the police and have him arrested, and file charges against him. If it is not his church, also demand he return the key to the doors, but after he's gone still have the locks changed.
---Eloy on 7/15/11|
I have known of that happening. What a shame. They will have to face Christ at the judgement. Don't be surprised tho, it happens. Call the authorities, IRS, and all you can think to call concerning this person.
---shira3877 on 7/15/11|
FILE A REPORT WIH THE FBI AND YOUR LOCAL POLICE
---MARY on 7/15/11|
If you very carefuly study scripture, you will learn the only Apostles in the world today are false Apostles of Satan. 2 Corinthians 11:12-15 and Revelation 2:2.
---Rob on 1/9/08|
He is taking everything over. Not a man of God. You have reasons to worry. Call the police.
---catherine on 1/9/08|
I wouldn't do anything without prayer. Perhaps those who were opposed to this transaction should come together and fast and pray until you are all at peace and have some kind of direction. There are many things to take into account here.
---Linda on 1/9/08|
Susie you are probably right but there would be canceled checks, offering envelops, property signed for or bought and witness of the fact that this was presented as a church.
No one person has no right to the property. It can be donated to another ministry with approval of the members.
There are laws that govern this type of activity. The officials need to be brought in.
---Elder on 5/24/07|
Elder...I suspect there are no bylaws or any legal documents for this "church." It would surprise me if any of the members have ever saw the "corporation" paperwork because there probably isn't any. One ex-pastor of a large denomination actually went to the bank and borrowed money against the church building even though he had no legal right to do this. It's amazing that the bank did the loan. But, it happened.
---Susie on 5/24/07|
Fake preachers, you cannot trust them why are you keeping them around?
---catherine on 5/23/07|
Get in contact with the State Prosecutor/Attorney in the area you live and explain what is going on.
Church property must be disposed of according to law. There maybe fraud involved.
If you are a member you have a legal say in this. Reread the Church constitution and see how many voting members must be present before a vote can be taken.
Check and see what a voting member is.
Contact as many of the former members that you can. They may have an interest in the property even after they left.
---Elder on 5/23/07|
If the pastor owns the property, it doesn't matter if anyone helped him make the payments. It's still his to do with as he wishes.
---Susie on 5/23/07|
Until we know more details, we hear a snippet and guess what's going on. marie, it would be helpful if you would come back and tell us, does this building belong to the pastor. If the pastor owns the building, that changes things. If the congregants helped make payments, that changes things.
---Bonnie on 5/23/07|
If the people in the church paid into the church to help keep it going, then the church belongs to the people in the church and not just the Pastor. Because a Pastor isn't a Pastor unless he has a good bunch of people supporting him in every way.
---Rebecca_D on 5/22/07|
If the pastor owns the building, he can do what he wants with it, and it would be none of your business. If it is owned by the church, then the church bylaws must be followed in selling the building. It's always funny to me when members of the church start talking about the church money. They always seem to think there's a lot of it. And, it's usually the people who don't give tithes or offerings who do most of the asking. Cheerful givers know they are giving to the Lord.
---Susie on 5/21/07|
Just let him go. God will take care of him. You don't need him anyhow, and chances are the money that he holds isn't money earned, but lied or cheated someone in some way to get it. Dirty money, is what I would call it. Just let him go, money and all. You don't need him. Pray for him, for he surely needs God.
---Rebecca_D on 5/21/07|
I don't know the ins, outs, and ramifications, but would it not be possible for those people who protest to petition the court for an injuntion to prevent the sale of the church building?
---Jack on 5/21/07|
you left out who owns the building the church or the pastor?
---willow on 5/21/07|
Why not let God deal with him? Why should you have to do anything? Don't you believe in "Don't be fooled, God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he reapeth." Too many of us think we have to do something in the flesh. PRAY in the Spirit "at all times" the Apostle Paul said, and then the battle becomes the Lord's battle, He will deal with it for you, your job is to PRAY at all times.
---donna on 5/21/07|
Are you saying that there is a corporation at this time? If so, you can take legal action against him. You may even be able to do so anyway. I think though that if it is a corporation, he is guilty of extortion or theaft. He needs legal action just as much as a church Pastor child molestor. We must not let pastors get away with these criminal acts. If by chance he does escape with the assets, distruction will eventuall befall him as God will repay. His peace to you.
---jody on 5/21/07|
You have the handbook. Use the Bible as your guide, take some witnesses with you and approach the pastor today. Otherwise, you may end up approaching the bench, raising your right hand, swearing to tell the whole truth and nothing but the whole truth. You're not helpless here, we have a legal eagles.
---Jenny on 5/21/07|
Without knowing the details, it sounds like there may be some financial distress somewhere that you don't know about and this is the only way they know to handle it. Unfortunately, the wisdom of man is void in light of the wisdom of God. I would be interested in knowing what he means by "heading the corporation" and "an apostle taking over".
---Linda on 5/21/07|
This apostle, has he ever ministered to the body there? Have you ever met him or is this the first time you have heard of him? I would be wary of anyone claiming to be an apostle who has never darkened the door of your fellowship. If the building must be sold and the "church" shut down, then one man keeping the money or "lording over it" is surely not godly. Any outstanding debt should be paid off and the remaining finances distributed equally amongst the members.
---Linda on 5/21/07|