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Do Christians Fear Death

Christians say God is great, yet few want to go and live with Him eternally. Christians, even at a very old age try everything to stay alive, yet death is the way to meeting God. If God is so wonderful, why is it that most Christians fear death?

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Rose: Please don't be too hard on others. Christians are not perfect. It seems as though you are trying to make us out to be superhumans. This is not fair or right to do this. Christians fears are understandable. We have limited understanding,wisdom and knowledge as we all do. But I am willing to die for Christ,regardless of my understanding of death. I may not understand all the details of death,yet, and I don't have to, but one thing I do understand: Jesus is worth my dying for. He paid a very high price for me with his blood. I am grateful. Truly grateful. Death is nothing compared to what He must have suffered for me.
---Robyn on 6/14/09

"Fear is the opposite of faith and without faith it is impossible to please God."
---Timothy on 3/18/09
Would it not rather be doubt the opposite of faith?
Matthew 14:31: "And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?"
There is a fear which favors faith rather than diminish it.

"I fear to doubt the God who cannot lie, lest it be said of me, " He could not enter in, because of unbelief.""
---Nana on 3/20/09

Fear is the opposite of faith and without faith it is impossible to please God.
---Timothy on 3/18/09

We do this out of ignorance and lack of understamding of what death is. Our knowledge is very limited. We don't understand birth,too well,either.For that matter. All we know is: our loved one is gone from this earth. We will never see them again on this earth and in our lack of knowledge of death,selfishness,egotism and other character flaws, we fear death.
This is why God is in charge and we are not. We are powerless beings who think we are all powerful and all-knowing but this is a lie.
---Robyn on 3/15/09

Ofcourse we dont want to feel pain and sufer a horrible death when we die.

but we arnt talking about that. the question is do you fear death itself.
jesus says there is nothing to fear, and he will never leave us or forsake us. it is impossible to please god without faith.
As christians we have two natures, we have to cast down the flesh every second of the day. This isn't our home,we should not want to be here at all. If we are scared you arnt trusting god, with out faith it impossible to please god. If we dont please god we dont make heaven.
all my faith is in my lord,I have the witness, I spoke in tongues. I know without any doubt that jesus rose on the third day.
---batieste on 3/14/09

Everyone fears death. A Christian need not fear what happens to him after death (other than a normal anxiety about the unfamiliar). He knows where he will spend eternity.

But the drive for self-preservation was hard-wired into all humanity. God has given this "fear" to us for our physical protection. It is a biochemical reaction that gives us extra energy and strength in an emergency. A Christian should not feel a need to apologize for this kind of fear.
---Donna66 on 3/11/09

if you are truly saved...believe that jesus is lord, the alpha and omega and rose on the third day u should embrace leaving this place.
this isnt our home...
to enter heaven you must have faith.
why do you think jesus comands us to have the holy spirit? its the witness that jesus rose on the third day. i recieved the holy sprirt like the apostles did on the day of pentecost.acts 2:1-4
people of the world, not of christ embrace and love the earth.
the bible warns us of people like that, false christians.
the writer of the question isnt a christian.(if god is so wonderful) not of christ..
god bless you saints of the most high god
---batieste on 3/11/09

Rooney - self-preservation from death & deterioration. I thought that was a pretty obvious reason for trying to stay alive and didn't need mentioning. Why self-preserve? Well, I swat flys off of my arm because I don't like maggots in my skin. How about you?
---Anthony on 6/21/08

I dont live in fear of death i live with the fear that i have not done all i can do to serve God. Death is just another door to walk through i just hope that everything i have done here helps me to find the key to the lock.
---Charlie on 6/28/07

The truth, Rose, is that a true Spirit-filled believer does not fear death. Why? Because he knows what waits for him on the other side. I am a born-again Christian. I love life, and do not want to die before God is finished with me, but if I were dying RIGHT NOW, I would be completely ready. When a true Christian dies, it is glorious. When a non-believer dies, it is horrible. I hope this helps.
---Gary_L. on 6/22/07

I can't answer for anyone else, but I know for me and I am sure for some others as well, the fear of death has to do with the unknown. We don't know how or when we will die or exactly what happens afterwards, except that for the believer we will be in heaven. I don't think it is often a fear of God.
---maryj9396 on 6/22/07

I agree with LL reply from 6-2-07. You expressed my feelings perfectly. Thank you for your transparency. Joy9988
---Joy9988 on 6/9/07

#1 Rooney

I dont think that I was addressing you concerning resurrected bodies of flesh and bone. I believe that it was Ashley that I addressed that to. I think that we are confusing what it is that we are. You think that we are a spirit that has a body and soul, but this isnt what scripture says. God created Adams body from the dust of the ground and breathed his spirit into it, and it became a living soul. We have spirit which came from God and the body
---Billy on 6/8/07

#2 Rooney

that God created, and the combination of the two is what makes the living soul. Its like taking a peace of transparent blue (spirit) plastic and a peace of transparent yellow (body) plastic, and when you lay one on top of the other you have the color green (soul). Soul is what we are, separate the body (yellow) from spirit (blue) and the soul dies. If we were spirits we would have to have a spirit body to live in after death, but scripture states that we
---Billy on 6/8/07

#3 Rooney

receive our spirit bodies at the resurrection. The resurrection is yet future. (Joh 3:13) No man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. Even king David is still dead and buried unto this day awaiting the resurrection (Acts 2:29). You said that flesh gives birth to flesh, but spirit gives birth to spirit, and I couldnt agree with you more, but you must have not read what I had written.
---Billy on 6/8/07

#4 Rooney

We are only born again in part until the redemption of the purchased possession, then we will truley see him as he is, and be like him.. So if you are 100% born again of the spirit, and you think that you should be identified as a spirit being trying to master your human experience, could you let me see you do as Jesus did and appear and vanish away in thin air. If you can do this, Ill believe that you are 100% born again to spirit.
---Billy on 6/8/07

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#5 Rooney

Dont get me wrong, I believe in being born again in this life, and that we are new creatures, but as scripture states, this is only the earnest of our inheritance. I wont to comment on something that you said in post 9, but ill have to do that tonight. God bless brother.
---Billy on 6/8/07

2/ Ryan

All flesh is sin, even an aborted baby is flesh and has to be brought through the maturing process that the lake of fire will provide. As Joseph was rejected for his calling, so must Christ and his elect be rejected. Joseph was being prepared by God to not just save his brothers who sold him into slavery, but to bring to pass this day, and to save much people alive. Josephs brothers could not be perfected without Jopseph. This is just an Old Testament type of Heb. 11, that you spoke about.
---Billy on 6/8/07

3/ Ryan

Keep being lead by Gods Spirit. Its wonderful to see God working in someones spiritual life, even if its just one "many are called but few are chosen".

As for leaving CN. At the time when I said that I would be leaving, I was fighting some battles and in hast made that choice. I should have just given CN a break for a little while and I would have been OK. But for know, ill just keep it in moderation and ill be OK. So ill stick around for a little while. God bless brother
---Billy on 6/8/07

1/ Ryan

Thank you for the complement my brother. Yes Ryan, most cant see that without Gods elect, Abraham and all the Old Testament patriarchs will not be perfected. Maybe you could guess where this perfecting process will take place? Yes, it will be the lake of fire. The lake of fire is Gods chastening judgments to purify, and to make them perfect. Christ and his elect will be this fire.
---Billy on 6/8/07

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8)Unfortunately, because we live in the natural system, we have lost our supernatural identity unconsciously. A spirit being with a yet to be redeemed and glorified soul and body respectively, confuses himself with a carnal being who has only received a spirit; and although he believes this is a life-giving spirit, he thinks it does not defined who he is, until resurrection!
---Rooney on 6/8/07

9)When a person is truly crucified with Christ, he actually no longer lives or is identified by his unredeemed soul and body, even if they are the most visible; rather by the Spirit of Christ who lives in that person (Gal. 2:20). The fact that there will be a re-union of our born again spirit with a redeemed soul and resurrected body in the Millennial Age should not blind to who we already are in Christ Jesus.
---Rooney on 6/8/07

10)But to all who received Him, who believed in His name, He gave power to become children of God, who were born, not of blood or of the will of the flesh or of the will of man, but of God (Jn.1: 12-13). The day you and I received Jesus, we received another life. This is a spirit life and its the one that defines us.
---Rooney on 6/8/07

11)This spirit life might be groaning under the captivity of an unredeemed soul and the yet to be glorified body, but it rejoices that in the Millennial Age, it will have a complete and perfect reunion. Again we are all learning; if I am wrong correct me.
---Rooney on 6/8/07

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#1 My beloved brother Billy. Once again you have stirred within my spirit a wonderful truth: "..or the delivery of part of such goods, for the purpose of binding the contract, till the rest is payed later."
I love this, it is so consistent with scripture!! The end of Hebrews 11 says that all of the saints of old will not be made perfect without us. This fits so perfectly with the scripture in Ephesians.
---Ryan_Z on 6/7/07

#2 My beloved brother Billy, Thank you my dear brother for waht you shared.
AND YOU WANTED TO LEAVE CN????? YOu have so much good you can do everywhere you go why would you want to leave any venueof communicating the Good News!
---Ryan_Z on 6/8/07

1)Thanks Ryan and Bill for your constructive discussion, but what I am saying here is not that we are resurrected bodies of flesh and bone. No, we cant be this of course, because our soul and body are yet to die before being re-united with the spirit. We are not yet in the Millennial Age. Only then will we be resurrected bodies.
---Rooney on 6/8/07

2)But as born-again Christians, we derive our identity and being in the new spirit of God we received in Christ Jesus, not in the soul that surrounds it, nor in the body that houses both. Jesus says that, Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit (Jn. 3:6). The day you and I received Christ we became born again.
---Rooney on 6/8/07

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3)This doesnt mean we went back into our Moms tummies, but God gave us a new Spirit - a new life from heaven, by which we should be identified, rather than the yet-to be redeemed soul that surround it or the body that houses both. God is Spirit and its not in his nature to father flesh.
---Rooney on 6/8/07

4)It is the law of creation and reproduction that every living thing produces after its kind. The young one of duck is a duckling; the offspring of a pig is a piglet. What about the person born of God in Christ Jesus? I have said, you are gods; and all of you are children of the most High (Ps. 82:6).
---Rooney on 6/8/07

5)Of course we are not gods in the sense the New Age Movement parades itself, but we have and are identified by the Spirit nature of God who lives I and works in us by Christ Jesus.
---Rooney on 6/8/07

6)I believe this was the fundamental truth Jesus was trying to convey to Nicodemus, but because Nicodemus (just like many of us) had a subverted mind which takes man to be flesh-soul-body, rather than spirit-soul-body as correctly ordered and arranged in 1 Thessalonians 5:23, he couldnt make sense of what Jesus was saying.
---Rooney on 6/8/07

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7)Of course the soul shall be redeemed, revived or restored by his power in the resurrection day - the Millennial Age, but this cannot take away the spirit nature we already have and by which we should be identified spirit beings trying to master the human experience.
---Rooney on 6/8/07

(1) Rooney

I will say the same thing that I said to Ashley, A very important truth in Gods word is this, (Psa. 119:160) The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting (NASB). Taking the whole of Gods Word is what gives us the truth of the matter. We did not exist before we were born on this planet. God knew us before we were physically born, because Gods plan and purpose is forever settled in heaven
---Billy on 6/7/07

(2) Rooney

before the foundations of the world. If this proves that we existed before our earthly existance, then why did Christ have to die a second time if scripture says that he was the lamb slain before the world began? If you understand spiritual things, you would see that this isnt saying that Christ had been crucified before the Earth was created, but that the plane of God is finished before the world begain.
---Billy on 6/7/07

(3) Rooney

God does call those things which be not as though they were (Rom 4:17). God knowing Jeremiah before he was formed in his mothers belly doesnt prove that he existed prior to his earthly bearth, but it does prove Gods sovereign plan in action. Also when you speak of being born again, you disregard the whole of scripture to rest your case. Everything including being born again is only given to us in earnest, or down payment form.
---Billy on 6/7/07

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(4) Rooney

Earnest is defined as the payment of the price of goods sold, or the delivery of part of such goods, for the purpose of binding the contract, till the rest is payed later. (Eph. 1:13,14) In whom ye also trusted, after ye have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession,
---Billy on 6/7/07

(5) Rooney

unto the praise of his glory. Here is another scripture that lets us know that we are also sons of God, only in part. (1John 3:2) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. Yes we are sons of God, but it doesnt yet appear what we shall be? This is sure a twist in words! But to understand the whole of Gods word,
---Billy on 6/7/07

(6) Rooney

this brings the scriptures togather that we can understand how we are sons, but it does not yet appear that we are, and why scripture seems to say that we preexisted when its God calling those things which are not as though they were. God bless brother.
---Billy on 6/7/07

#1 Ashley

God bless sister. A very important truth in Gods word is this, (Psa. 119:160) The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting (NASB). Taking the whole of Gods Word is what gives us the truth of the matter. Another scripture that adds more weight to this truth is this, (2Pet 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation. This isnt saying that we shouldnt interpret
---Billy on 6/7/07

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#2 Ashley

scripture on our own, its speaking of scripture itself. Its saying that one scripture cant stand alone to interpret itself without the whole of Gods Word to back it up. So lets use this method to answer the question as to why Jesus said "for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see me have". So when Jesus was resurrected was it his physical body that was resurrected or was it just the form that he chose to manifest himself in because of there lack of faith?
---Billy on 6/7/07

#3 Ashley

Jesus appeared in the form of a man several times after his resurrection. (Mark 16:12) Says Jesus had appeared in another form. I believe this to be the same story spoken of in (Luke 24:13-31). Also after these two men realized it was Jesus that was with them, he vanished out of their sight. In (John 20:11-17) Jesus appeared to Mary in a form that she thought to be a gardener and not Jesus himself.
---Billy on 6/7/07

#4 Ashley

(John 20:19-20) Jesus materialized to his disciples behind locked doors in a form that they could recognize. Verse 24&25 gives us some real insight as to why Jesus would appear in the form of flesh and bone. Because of the lack of faith to believe that Jesus was resurrected, he had to appear in a natural body for there benifit. Flesh and bone bodies cant vanish and materialize into thin air. If you want to know what the true resurrected form of Christ
---Billy on 6/7/07

#5 Ashley

looks like, lets look at (Acts 26:13), His form was above the brightness of the sun. Also (Rev. 1:13,15) gives us a look at our resurrected saviour. Hair white as wool, as white as snow, eyes as a flame of fire; feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and the voice of many waters. These are the descriptions that we have of what a spirit body truley is. We know that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
---Billy on 6/7/07

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#6 Ashley

So was Christs true resurrected form a physical body? NO, he appeared in the form of flesh for the benifit if his diciples. Yes his form was flesh and bone and not spirit, but taking the whole of Gods Word, this wasnt his true resurrected form. Christs true glorified form is so glorious that it blinded the eyes of Paul on the road to Damascus. He has truly went from the physical to the spiritual. (2Cor 5:16) We are to know no man after the flesh,
---Billy on 6/7/07

#7 Ashley

though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet we are to know him no more "after the flesh". God bless sister
---Billy on 6/7/07

#1 Rooney, so you are saying we become spirit beings that have a body and soul when we are born again? If this is so why do scriptures speak of God redeeming our soul? Why do scriptures speak of what we sow as a grain to be placed in our new bodies? If we are resurrected bodies of flesh and bone why does scripture speak of our new bodies from heaven? And why does Christ say in His Fathers house are many houses (New Bodies) if we are to live in resurrected bodies?
---Ryan_Z on 6/7/07

#2 Rooney, The scriptures do speak of the Holy Spirit quickening, or brining alive, our spirit but we do not become spirit until the resurrection. Although I may be misunderstanding scripture, what is your perspective?
---Ryan_Z on 6/7/07

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1) Its interesting some people say they are born of God, they are born-again. They also believe John 3:6 which says, That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. But then they dont accept that they are spirit-beings! They instead feel more comfortable saying they just have a spirit as if they are defined by their soul and body!
---Rooney on 6/7/07

2) But if you are truly born again, youre a brand-new creature a spirit being in a human flame with a human soul. The Bible says that every born-again believer has undergone a complete inner transformation. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ. (2 Cor. 5:17-18).
---Rooney on 6/7/07

3) First Thessalonians 5:23 makes it very clear: And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (emphasis mine). A born-again person is not defined by his physical body or even soul - his mind, will, and emotions and conscience. Your soul is really what most people call their personalities.
---Rooney on 6/7/07

4) If you think you are a living soul, then perhaps you are not yet saved, for what was saved was not our souls, but our spirits. So you may have the same thoughts and emotions you had before you were saved. And because of that, some seriously doubt whether or not they were saved. They dont understand that the change took place in their spirits..
---Rooney on 6/7/07

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5) If you think you have a spirit, but you are not a spirit-being, then you are not in Christ Jesus for our new spirit is the only part of us that is in Jesus, not our corrupt souls and bodies. The apparent disparity between our natural experiences and Gods Word causes many to throw up their hands or even question their salvation. But your spirit is your innermost part, not your soul.
---Rooney on 6/7/07

6) Even before you were born physically, before you could acquire a soul and body, God knew YOU, not just the soul he would give and the spirit He would put in you! Look at these scriptures. Jeremiah 1:5 says, Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. God knew us as spirit beings even before He could give us a soul and body.
---Rooney on 6/7/07

If we be at peace with God we have in effect made a covenant with death that, shall be no terror to us. >>>No true Christian on this earth should fear death.
---catherine on 6/7/07

I appreciate your blogs. many things you said are true because you quoted scripture, but all things spiritual were created as stated in Genesis, before the world was created physically. You and I too. The resurrection is not a spirit entering a spirit body. It is a spirit and body of flesh and bone uniting. That is why Jesus said: touch me, for a spirit does not have a body of flesh and bones as ye see me have." that is why there are many churches believing different things. They pick and choose.
---ashley on 6/7/07

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1/ Ashley

I asked the questions concerning spirit bodies and the resurrection to get you to see "when it is" that we obtain our spirit bodies, and that without a body we cannot continue to live. Yes the spirit that has given us life is eternal. It does go back to God from whence it came, but the body without the spirit causes the living soul to die. We are a living soul. Take away either one of the two "spirit or body" and this is when Ecclesiastes 9:5 becomes true.
---Billy on 6/6/07

2/ Ashley

Ecc. 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. We are not just a body nor a spirit, but we are a combination of both body and spirit that makes us a living soul. WE are a living soul "Gen 2:7". "1Cor 15:27" The body that will be sown to the grave is not the body that shall be, verse 38, but God gives it a body as it has pleased him.
---Billy on 6/6/07

3/ Ashley

If you keep reading the rest of this chapter youll see that the resurrection is when we obtain our spirit bodies. But does the resurrection take place as soon as we die? NO IT DOESNT! Even Martha told Jesus concerning her brother Lazarus that he would not live again until the resurrection "at the last day" John 11:24. If the resurrection takes place at death, there would be no need for a future first and second resurrection.
---Billy on 6/6/07

4/ Ashley

Yes our spirit that was given to us by God, returns to God, and the body returns to the dust from where it came, and who we are "living soul" dies, until spirit and our new immortal bodies are united. Paul makes it clear that the resurrection is what brings us life again. He states that if there were no resurrection we could eat and drink and do whatever we wanted to do because to morrow we die "1Cor 15:32".
---Billy on 6/6/07

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5/ Ashley

Ashley, could you tell me why Paul gives us such permission to eat and drink if there was know resurrection? Because if there is no resurrection, there is no hope to ever live again. Paul goes on to say, "be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners". And that men would distort the fact of when and how this resurrection of life would occure. Ashley, we are not resurrected to our spirit bodies immeadeatly at death.
---Billy on 6/6/07

6/ Ashley

We sleep at death till the first resurrection takes place, and the rest of the dead live not again till the second resurrection takes place at the end of the millennial reign "Rev. 20:5". When Jesus told the thief that he would be with him in paradise, it should say, "I say unto you this day, you will be with me in paradise". The scriptures are consistant that without a resurrection there is no life. God bless.
---Billy on 6/6/07

Rooney, ashley did not answer the question. I asked if man IS a spirit not if man HAS a spirit, there is a huge difference. Appearantly she wishes not to answer and that is fine. It creates great confusion when, as Geoff pointed out, Genesis says man became a living soul and you have people claiming man to be spirit.
---Ryan_Z on 6/6/07


Thank you for your instructions on how I should blog. The reason for the questions was to get Ashley to see for herself what the scriptures say, as to when we receive or spirit bodies. I wanted her to see it for herself without my assistance , but it does look like I will have to help the issue out. So read my post to Ashley and get back with me if your notes differ, God bless brother
---Billy on 6/6/07

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Calhoun: Now you are thinking spiritually. Jesus taught: "Be ye perfect, even as your Father is perfect." How? We live our lives one baby step at a time. We know something is wrong in God's eyes and we repent of it, Never repeating it. It is then blotted out by Jesus Christ forever. You cannot eat a whole cow at once. You eat one bite at a time and eliminate permanently one sin at a time. Examine your life. You have not killed anyone have you. You are perfect in that regard.
---ashley on 6/5/07

Billy,Do spirits have spirit bodies. Yes. What else would they have? I use the analogy of a mirror reflection. You cannot touch your spirit, but it smiles back at you in your image. Mortals have mortal bodies that are prone to illness, disease and death. Think of a resurrected body. A body that is immortal, no more disease or weakness. At the first resurrection, the righteous will change in a twinkling of an eye. Our bodies are changed from mortal to immortal to live once again in God's kingdom.
---ashley on 6/5/07

Ryan, I dont know how you want Ashley to answer you any better, she has already truly pointed out to you that our spirits are eternal and live after death. If you differ give your reasons. As for Billy, instead of asking Ashley all those questions, just give us your views so that we can compare notes. We are more interested in answers than in further questions. Thanks Ashley for those brilliant views!
---Rooney on 6/6/07

jody: "My only reservations daughter and grandaughter."

You deny God's power to take care of your daughter and granddaughter.

"I know that the Lord has more for me to do here..."

And you can know God's heart?
---Steveng on 6/5/07

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jody: "I just wanted to respond because some Christians have NO FEAR of death."

Very few, in fact, do not fear death. Most Christians think they have unfinished business here on earth. Many use theapy drugs to live as long as possible thinking they could do more for God if they live longer. These Christians are foolish. Besides, who in there right mind want to live longer than God ordained during current tribulation on earth.
---Steveng on 6/5/07

I would rather be with Jesus than alive on earth. My only reservations are that I do not want to leave my daughter and grandaughter as they have no more family. They would be devestated without me. Also, I know that the Lord has more for me to do here as well. It is not my time. Now doesn't that sound suicidal? I am by no means suicidal, and it is with joy that I live for Jesus Christ. I just wanted to respond because some Christians have NO FEAR of death.
---jody on 6/5/07

If I repented of all my sins and never commited them again. I would be sin free in one year. Id be perfect.
---calhoon on 6/5/07


God bless sister. Can I ask you a few questions? (1)Can we live in the spirit world without a spirit body? (2)When do we obtain our spirit bodies? (3)Does the resurrection give us our spirit bodies?
---Billy on 6/5/07

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Rose, remember some will be alive to meet Jesus in the air-1 Thes 4:15-17.

Ashley, where in the Bible does it say "our spirits are eternal"? Let's think it through. If Jesus told the theif they would be in paradise together-Lk 23:43 and Jesus had not yet been even on Sunday-Jn 20:17, then how could the theif be in heaven without Jesus? Let's take a closer look at exactly what is the soul & what is the spirit. Ryan, man is a living SOUL-Gen 2:7.
---Geoff on 6/5/07

ashley, I am not attacking you. I asked a very simple question, " you believe man to be a living spirit?" If you would not care to answer this, that is fine. I just wanted to know your understading of what man is.
---Ryan_Z on 6/5/07

Ryan. our spirits are eternal. they were created first if you bother reading genesis. it was not a misprint when creation of all things was mentioned twice. first spiritually, then in the earth, but many deny that. our bodies do die and return to the earth, but our spirits are immortal, do you believe in the resurrection and judgment. do you believe in the bible, do you believe it is true or do you believe in the false words of man over God.
---ashley on 6/5/07

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