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Can Christians Drink Alcohol

Is it wrong for a Christian to consume alcohol?

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DJ you are a thinking man, so tell me, upon what research do you base your claim that drinking alcohol kills brain cells?
---Warwick on 9/2/09

John 2:10 "And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine, and when men have well drunk G3184, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now". In the New Testament, except when it used allegorically in Revelations, it means alcoholic wine. Trux would have been an appropriate word for juice. The teaching that it was grape juice comes out of the 19th century Holiness movement, not scripture.
Wine: H3196 yayin, G3631 oinos. G3184 methuo, intoxicated by drinking alcohol.
---Glenn on 9/2/09

"Notice verse 10. The "good wine" was the unfermented "wine."

What version of the Bible says that?
---alan8566of_uk on 9/2/09

DJconklin, don't let denominational beliefs control your reasoning.

Please explain how the 'good wine' or 'choice wine' of John 2:10 is unfermented?

Converesely it says the best wine is brought out first then when they have had 'too much to drink' the cheaper wine is brought out. This says nothing about fermented or unfermented as any wine drinker knows. It points out the well known fact that after a few drinks people can no longer tell the difference between guality and cheap wine. Thereby the host saves money!
---Warwick on 9/2/09

>Jesus made wine, John 2:3-11, "and his disciples believed on him."

Notice verse 10. The "good wine" was the unfermented "wine."
---dconklin on 9/2/09

Jesus made wine, John 2:3-11, "and his disciples believed on him." They would have used an alcoholic beverage because a wedding was a religious celebration. In verse 10, drunk means to be mildly intoxicated as there are many verses that prohibit drunkenness. In Romans 14:1-15:7 and 1Corinthians 8:3-13, we are to consider our weaker brother. However, a Christian may not break fellowship with his brother over the issue, Romans 14:1-12 (This says "doubtful disputations", or allows the one to drink, and the other to not drink.), Galatians 2:11-14, 4:9-10, Ephesians 4:1-3, Colossians 2:16-23. Also, to say that it wasn't alcohol because you are offended, does not change it to grape juice.
---Glenn on 9/2/09

Even one drink of wine impairs your thinking abilities. You are called to love God with all your mind--kind of hard to do that if you are killing the brain cells.
---dconklin on 9/2/09

It is a sin to get drunk not to consume alcohol. But if one is a recovering alcoholic or have issues with alcohol. I would feel they should be wise and not drink at all. Just one glass of alcohol could do them much harm. Once an alcoholic always an alcoholic.
Abstinence is the best policy for these types.Occasional drinking for persons with no history of alcohol abuse and addiction could have a drink or two. But I don't encourage anyone to do this. Be led by the spirit in all things. Christians should be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
If I am at a wedding or taking communion with alcohol. I might take a sip of alcohol then. But this is my preference. I have no past issues with alcohol.
---Robyn on 9/1/09

Christ was the one who turned water to wine ...or did everyone forget that event in NT ...or is that one of those symbolic events?

Anything can be used in excess, sex, leisure activities, or being incessantly slothful with no activities ....ANYTHING one can gain physical pleasure from can be ABUSED

it is wrong to ABUSE Alcohol or anything that one puts INTO Gods temple which is their physical body
---Rhonda on 9/1/09

When I read up on this I discovered it is a myth. There is no doubt that alcohol abuse over a long period is harmful, but so is the abuse of many 'foods.'

From what I have read brain cells do actually die if submerged in 100% alcohol. However the percentage of alcohol in a drunks blood is a tiny fraction of 1% of blood volume.

I would imagine brain cells would die if submerged in a cola drink.

I think this whole story was made up by legalists who are into rules, do this don't do that! Boring and unBiblical.

I think I will have a drink to that!
---Warwick on 9/1/09

Since you know that even one drink of alcohol kills brain cells you can't be loving God with all your mind.
---dconklin on 8/17/09
You know this for a fact? And how many cells are killed?

You need to face reality and realize that cells die every single day. All the cells in the body die and are replaced by new living cells.

I really don't think the brain will be harmed by just one drink. There is more harm done by eating sugar or cholesterol that will damage the heart. Just one drink is proven to be good for the heart.
---obewan on 8/31/09

Why only drinking, doing everything in excess (including eating /sleeping/ fighting/ etc) are immoral parhaps. I think there can someone who is teetotaler, goes to church but draws pronographic pictures in the public toilets when alone. Do you like to pass him off as good christian or as a sick man.

Driking within limits and with friends once in a blue moon should not cause problem for anyone I think.
---rajib_das on 8/31/09

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind

Since you know that even one drink of alcohol kills brain cells you can't be loving God with all your mind.
---dconklin on 8/17/09

To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?

Use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities(1Tim.5:23) because 'All things are lawful unto us, but all things are not expedient(helpful): all things are lawful for us, but we're not to be brought under the power of any'.

Think not more highly of yourself than you ought to, but think soberly. If you know alcohol is a thorn in your side, then it's wrong to consume!

Present your body a living Sacrifice, Holy & Acceptable unto God by staying clear of the 7 deadly sins, which aids the things of the world to hold us in bondage. Rage, Fear, Lust, Gluttony, Slothfulness, Envy & Pride, only insight the infertile ground that lends to the world's carnal mind of death.
---ShawnM.T. on 8/16/09

Jesus made wine, John 2:3-11.
A curse to not have it, Isaiah 1:22, 24:11, Micah 6:15.
Used in offerings, Exodus 29:40, Numbers 15:4-10.
Used as medicine, 2Samuel 16:2, Proverbs 31:6, 1Timothy 5:23.
Made glad, Psalm 104:15, Ecclesiastes 10:19.
Was a blessing, Genesis 14:18, Proverbs 9:2, 5, Ecclesiastes 9:7, Isaiah 25:6, 55:1, Amos 9:14, Zechariah 10:7, Matthew 26:29, John 2:3-11, 1Corinthians 10:16.
Drunkenness forbidden: Esther 1:10-12, Proverbs 20:1, 23:29-35, 31:4-5, Isaiah 5:11, 28:7, Hosea 4:11, Joel 3:3, Amos 6:6, Luke 21:34, Romans 13:13, Ephesians 5:18, 1Timothy 3:8, Titus 1:7.
Tabernacle Priests, Leviticus 10:9. Nazarites, Numbers 6:3.
Consider weaker brother, Romans 14:1-15:7, 1Corinthians 8:3-13.
---Glenn on 8/14/09

Great discussion! Such a hot topic, I've been on both sides. Before getting saved at 20 yrs old, drank to excess, which brought on a slew of consequences. After salvation, preached total abstinence. Then, witnessing people who I knew walked closely w/ Jesus have a glass of wine with dinner, I thought moderation.

So what's the final analysis. If you're okay with it, then go for it. I know what happens when I try to drink on occasion. Sure, maybe I'm okay that one time...the second time...the 10th time...but eventually, I move past the buzz and get hammered. Why bother taking that chance anymore? Personally, I'm saying.
---Will_C on 8/14/09

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If they're pregnant, yes, it's wrong.

If they're driving or underage, ditto.

If they're on certain meds or have other medical conditions--Could be wrong. Could just be dumb. Depends.

Otherwise, it's up to the individual's conscience.

Just remember if you drink, drink in moderation. And that depends on your weight and metabolism, not your age.

(And eat something with your alcohol, for crying out loud!)
---Nancy on 12/1/07

While a teenager, I jokenly asked the poolhall proprietor if I could buy a 6-pack to take home with me. He looked both ways and told me that I would have to take it out the backdoor. I gave him the $1.25 and carted it out the door. Getting home,I put it in the frig and my mother who found it the next morning was upset but my dad said I could drink all the beer I wanted if I were to take it home. Never had another problem with alcohol but if is a problem for someone else, then stay away from it.
---Lee on 9/20/07

I don't recommend anyone who hasn't drunk before trying alcohol--ever. When I had my first drink, I felt sooooo much guilt and was sure I would never be alcoholic. Boy was I wrong on that one! If you don't have a first drink, you're safe from it forever.
---Mary on 8/22/07

Christians can drink alcohol in moderation. I choose not to drink alcohol just because I don't care for it. It is not somthing that I was ever curious about. Plus I am pickey when it comes to what goes in my stomach and usally will not eat or drink something that has a nasty taste.
---Marcia on 8/16/07

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I know Christians who drink to excess. That is sin. I also know Christians who eat to excess. That is also sin. We should look after the body that God gave us to the best of our ability. That means putting into our body things that are good for the body, in amounts that are good for the body. We should also take reasonable exercise (if we are physically capable) and that means not too little and not too much. People can be addicted to the gym and bodybuilding just as much as to food or alcohol or drugs.
---RitaH on 8/13/07

Yes Lori and the real number one killer is food.
It would be great if we could rid the world of all its evils - but it is the abuse of alcohol that is wrong.
And what you don't think we all look around and see the problems with alcohol and drugs - so do we rid the world of all drugs bc many people abuse them.
I agree with you on every step of your experience and argument about the consequences of abusing alcohol. So try to not jump on me OK.
---Andrea on 8/12/07

Andrea. fact. alcohol is the number two killer today next to tobacco. Millions of people are dead, families destroyed, marriages destroyed forever because like you, people said hey I will drink if I want to. Millions of women have been raped because they were under the influence. every time you drink, your inhibitions are lowered whether you admit it or not. you let satan have free rule over you and you are too naive to see it. when you find yourself as a statistic. you have only yourself to blame.
---Lori on 8/11/07

con't, as an RN, spending time in the emergency room of hospitals, you should spend one weekend with me and see the carnage that comes through that is alcohol related. women abused, drunk drivers, women raped by men while drunk. You can tell the five year old children their mother or father is never coming home because they are dead. If I had my way, alcohol would be banned forever, but people are too stupid. when your liver is diseased or you are an alcoholic and lose everything, remember this blog.
---Lori on 8/11/07

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I was raised by alcoholics spent time around 12-step programs. Got my BS Psy a few years ago studied addictions etc. I'm not a professional, stats have it alcoholics come from two types of homes1-alcoholic home or 2-teetotaler apparently not allowing even a moderate consumption of alcohol increases the likelihood of a later abuse of alcohol.
I taught my kids how to drink appropriately - that they were predisposed to addiction and that drugs and drinking were a trade off for pain.
---Andrea on 8/11/07

My kids tell me today as adults that it helped them choose not to over-indulge in anything.
---Andrea on 8/11/07

Lori - get over yourself!
If you can't drink don't. You stated it well when you said you'd leave your family if they drank - they probably need a drink.

I never said it was ok to get drunk or to drive under the influence.
---Andrea on 8/11/07

PS - I have heard teachings on this very thing and the concensus was bc of the time of year there were no fresh grapes it would have been wine. Not a high alcohol content wine.
---Andrea on 8/11/07

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Andrea. tell that to many people that have killed others with their cars or children where parents died as a result of liver disease. tell that to everyone now suffering from diseases caused by alcohol consumption or broken marriages. Jesus did change water into wine, but I see they drank it then. Where does it state he let it ferment first so it became alcoholic. pure wine of the vine is healthy for the body, where fermented wine destroys the body. if you love to drink just say so.
---Lori on 8/11/07

This is just me, but if my husband or wife drank alcohol, they would not be married to me. why because our bodies are the temple of God and should never be defiled. millions of women are raped, molested, killed through intoxication. you said one-three beers is fine. all it takes is one ounce of alcohol to destroy brain cells, lower your inhibitions and lead you down the path of corruption. we are to put on the armor of God, not shun it and throw it away so satan has free reign over our thoughts.
---Lori on 8/11/07

andrea, my friend suffers from many learning difficulties because her mother became an alcoholic during her pregnancy. women say they got pregnant, raped, killed others, lost their marriages because they loved to drink at clubs, bars or home. whose fault is it. not God's. He told us to never lower our inhibitions. That is exactly what you do when you drink or take drugs. In my book,an ounce of prevention or abstaining is worth a pound of cure.
---Lori on 8/11/07

From what I know Jesus made some pretty good wine at that wedding (no it was not grape juice). And He made it after they'd already had a few cups so, no I don't think Christians should brawl but I do think that they should relax and have a beer or two or three once in awhile. If you can't hold your liquor or control your consumption - don't. Otherwise...
Eat drink and be merry bc God loves a cheerful heart.
Anything done in gluttony or idolatry is sin, there is no sin for the pure in heart.
---Andrea on 8/11/07

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Oh--thank you Lori :) I do appreciate that, very much. :)
---Mary on 8/1/07

Lori ... I think you might be correct in your assessment.
Sometime items that are published irritate, or worse, whilst ones that would soothe are omitted.
I suppose it is fun to stoke up yhe arguments
---alan_of_UK on 8/1/07

Mary, as usual, one blog gets posted being said to one person and the one I wrote to you that said congratulations, I am very happy to hear you are overcoming the problem one day at a time and for staying sober for three years is ignored. As usual, the moderators print the negative and ignor the positive. that is what frustrates many here. if this is a christian website, print the positive that uplifts people and answers questions, regardless if the moderators don't agree.
---Lori on 7/31/07

Lori, you are technically correct, but very uncompassionate. As an alcoholic who has stayed sober 3 years, but who still loves the bottle, I think I can minister to another alcoholic more effectively than you can. I'm in his/her shoes. I relapsed many times. I can't judge, only pray and minister.
---Mary on 7/31/07

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Lori, dear, let me put it another way: if I was a struggling alcoholic, I would not come to you for help, because all I would sense in you was your judgement. I would go to a sober alcoholic who has, like me, been there.
---Mary on 7/31/07

you are right. other christians that drink and get drunk are not chastised for their actions. you forget one thing though. Jesus Christ said in the bible it is a sin to get drunk. Since he is the Savior of the world, I believe him over everyone here or in the world that says otherwise. Without him, you have no salvation. you can deny the bible if you wish. it is written there.
---Lori on 7/30/07

Lori. Of course there are Christians and non-Christians who blame alcohol for their problems. If alcohol is a vise for these people, then they should stay away from it. Alcohol is not a vise for me. It is not right for you or anyone else to legislate your weaknesses unto the rest of us. Nobody disagrees that drunkenness is sinful.
---Nick on 7/30/07

Hi Lori, you might be right--perhaps some alcoholic Christians do actually blame the alcohol for their poor choices. I am an alcoholic, sober for 3 years now (hallelujah!) but I take absolute responsibility for my mistakes while drinking--and I'm sure many of us do, dear.
---Mary on 7/29/07

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from a scriptual point of view, comsuming alcohol is not a sin,drunkedness is, but they are not the same. If consuming alcohol was a sin, Jesus would not have made wine or consumed it. My sin has been gluttony,gluttony is a sin, eating is not. The Lord has set me free from this,but I still eat,not in a gluttonous way, however. Someone said on here how many Christian's are hurting themselves with alcohol, how many Christian's abuse food? Heart disease,diabites,all the prices of gluttony.
---Sandy on 7/29/07

millions of christians cloud their minds with alcohol. Brain cells are destroyed forever. Satan has a clear path into your thoughts for temptation. Your inhibitions are lowered. I have heard it many times. oh I murdered someone, was raped, committed adultery, all under the influence of alcohol. admit it, you love satan more than God and it shows in your actions. a glass of unfermented wine is a million times healthier than alcoholic wine. Prisons are full of christians blaming alcohol for their actions.
---Lori on 7/29/07

Many times, the people who are preaching no alcohol sure don't mind having a couple brownies and ice cream after their meal- or even drinking Coke. Is this good for your health? Of course not.

I drink fine craft and imported beer, in moderation of course, purely for the gastronomic experience of the flavour. Please look up gastronomy, as this applies to both food and drink. There are people that abuse food (gluttony.) Does this mean we can now condemn anyone who partakes of softdrinks?
---Nick on 7/29/07

It is amusing just looking at many non-biblical answers to this question. No it is not wrong to drink occasional wine or beer, in fact in some cultures it is very common. It is wrong to get drunk or excessive drink. Jesus did drink fermented wine, he even made fermented wine. He was accused of being a drunkard.

There is nothing in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation that says drinking wine is a sin, however, there are several occurrences that drunkenness is a sin.
---Jim on 7/24/07

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"Does the Bible out and out say that Jesus dranked wine?"

Does the Bible say that He did not? Why would 'some' say He was a wine drinker?
But you've missed the entire point about Jesus and the wine. So stay in your fundamental holiness long sleeves, hair buns, and whatever else you do that makes you feel holy.
---KCee on 7/23/07

If a person hides what they do from others, they are ashamed. It is easily to dishinguish between feeling guilty/ashamed or out of respect. Like when my brother-n-law comes to visit me. He knows that my husband and I go to church and are christians, I also know that he is a sinner and drinks. He doesn't drink at my house, out of respect for me. But when I visit him, he does drink because he is in his own home. If he were a Christian and hid his drinking, that would be a sin, because he would be ashamed.
---Rebecca_D on 7/23/07

Thomas, like all legalistic teetotallers, begs the question with his comparison with fornication and adultery. Well, there are clear commandments against sexual immorality. But the commandments against drinking and eating are only against excess, i.e. drunkenness and gluttony.
---Ktisophilos on 7/23/07

Rebecca, how about "Some Christians hide their wine because they know it will offend legalistic Christians who wrongly think that ANY wine drinking is sin."
---Ktisophilos on 7/23/07

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Leslie, by the "reasoning" adopted by your fellow legalists, how do you know that the Bible doesn't really mean "Don't get drunk on grape juice but be filled with the Holy Spirit"? ,0 The legalists seem so happy to translate the word for wine into "grape juice" when it suits them!
---Ktisophilos on 7/23/07

winebibber - not likely to be named this for drinking grape juice

Mar 14:25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

This implies that he did drink.
---a_servant on 7/23/07

Catherine, Why doyo think they called Him a "winebibber" Mat.11.19 ? (KJV) It's because he drank wine, plain and simple!
---1st_cliff on 7/22/07

1 Timothy 5:23

23Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
---Matthew_from_LA on 7/22/07

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It is commanded not to get drunk. The person who wrote about us not putting anything in our bodies that are mind altering should think the next time they take a tylenol. So,drink coffee,have a coke, take everyday over the counter medication(antihistamines) can be mine altering if taken in large enough doses. I just think everyone needs to really examine in which context the scripture was written and think whether or not it is written or another grey area. Some people actually believe it's wrong to dance!
---Cyndi on 7/21/07

Does the Bible out and out say that Jesus dranked wine? Only believers answers.
---catherine on 7/21/07

Since our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit and alcohol is a drug that acts like a depressant,onede should not comsume it. So many turn to it when trying to cope with problem areas in their life and it takes a wrongful place in their life. We are to take our problems to the Lord in prayer and not search for answers in a bottle.
---Deb on 7/21/07

Dt 14:26 ..bestow that money for whatever your soul lusts after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you, and your household,

Jn 2 Jesus made wine to drink

Maybe you should tell God that He is sinning.
---a_servant on 7/21/07

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Maybe all these "tea-totalers" can answer this ..Why God would use an evil beer drinking man like Noah to begin a whole new generation of mankind after the flood! hello,,,
---1st_cliff on 7/21/07

We really need to accept the fact that Jesus drank wine, but we also need to realize he never got drunk. We cannot use the Bible as a billy club to prove that drinking alcohol is wrong, but we can certainly prove from the Word that drunkeness is wrong.
---Aletha on 7/21/07

I believe it is wrong for me to consume alochol of any kind. For God took that desire away from me. Now if a person drinks every now and then, I don't think it is wrong. The person drinking needs to ask themselves, are they being a good witness toward others? If a Christian buys alcohol, and hides it, they are ashamed of it and they are convicted by God. In this case they need to stop period.
---Rebecca_D on 7/20/07

Amen Robyn. A little beer here and there. What the hey. Like just a little fornication or adultery here and there....You just have to control Responsible with it. gimme a break...its Sin!
---Thomas on 7/20/07

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I think so for two main reasons: 1) Our body is the temple of Christ - we should not put anything toxic or mind-altering in it, and 2) We are to be holy and separate from the world - drinking alcohol can hurt our Christian witness.
---melissa on 7/20/07

Jacqueline, from a stand point of being Christ like. Jesus both made and consumed wine dear. The operative point is moderation and self control, if you have a genetic predisposition to alcoholism then you should not drink at all. Other wise it is a mater of personal choice and good judgement. But I also feel that first offence DWI should be death by musketry with in 72 hours of the offence irrespective of age or sex. Tested by blood alcohol content only not breath analysis.
---notlaw99 on 7/20/07

If you are a TRUE Christian, you should NOT drink alcohol. The Bible says that wine and beer are mockers, and to stay away. The Bible also says not to get drunk with wine or beer but with the Holy Spirit.
---Leslie on 7/20/07

Dt 14:26 ..bestow that money for whatever your soul lusts after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you, and your household,

Jn 2 Jesus made wine to drink
1 Tim 5 Encouraged to drink wine

1 Cor 5:11 ..not to keep company with...a drunkard..
1 Cor 6:10 ..nor drunkards...shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Drunkeness is sin, not occasional drinking.
---a_servant on 7/20/07

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Jesus could make His arrival at any time. We are told to watch, fight and pray. I would hate to be doing something as evil as getting plastered. We need to be sober to do anything worthwhile for the Lord. I don't think Christ would be pleased with this type behavior. Any Christian who is serious about their faith would avoid this activity like the plague.
---Robyn on 7/20/07

Alcohol consumption is not a sin. Drunkenness is a sin.
---Madison1101 on 7/20/07

They didn't like Jesus because he drank (calling Him a wine-bibber) they didn't like John the Baptist because he didn't drink.Either way you will not be popular!
---1st_cliff on 7/20/07

No, Alcohol distorts,makes you too vulnerable to sin, looseness,too friendly,
Eph 5:18 Be not Drunk...But Be Filled with the Spirit!!!!!Halelujah, thats the High, the Drunk with No bad after affects & Shame
---Charla on 7/20/07

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it is wrong to consume alcohol because the bible says we should be Christ like meaning that we should resemble Christ in all things. **

And Jesus's first miracle was making several hundred gallons, not of grape juice, but of WINE.

Deal with it.
---Jack on 7/20/07

I don't think it's wrong under the right circumstances. If it makes you stumble, that is you drink too much and become drunk or make choices you know are wrong, or if it makes your brother stumble, then don't drink. If you can have a glass of wine with dinner, and do not become drunk or addicted or act inappropriately, and you are not around people that will be influenced negatively by your drinking, then that is fine. Use wisdom when drinking.
---Kady on 7/20/07

Consumption of alcohol is not the determining factor in a person's salvation. And after all when calling a person a Christian we really mean salvation for that person of whom we are speaking.
---Mima on 7/20/07

I think it's ok, as long as it is done in moderation. I don't see a problem in having a beer once in awhile or wine with dinner on occasion.
---Katie on 7/20/07

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it is wrong to consume alcohol because the bible says we should be Christ like meaning that we should resemble Christ in all things. also the bible tells us that wine is a mocker and strong drink is a brawler and whoever is led astray by it is not wise.
---jacqueline on 7/20/07

u couls say yes and no on this subject because the bible say be sober not dont drink at all but ojn the other hand we have to set standards as children of god
---craig on 7/20/07

Nice question, i also struggle with that but personnaly i dnt drink, ithink that its all about the consumption of the and we all know that drunkness equals foolishness. So really rather stay away for we know that the fleash is weak!! so in a nutshell dnt
---Florence on 7/20/07

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