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In Revelation 11:8 the word says," And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. "Do you believe that the two witnesses will be physical men?

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The two witnesses are the written Word and the spoken Word, they are One, the Faithful Witness. The prophecy started in 1984 and ended in 1988 in San Antonio Texas. For more details
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---duke on 12/15/07

There is no blessing here.
---His_Servant on 12/7/07

God bless you Trey, John 21:3-6,The disciples fished all night using man's knowledge.Zero catch.V6 Jesus said cast your NET on the Right(other)side of the ship and Ye SHALL find.Moral, there is man's way and The Word's way.God is now revealing His Truth.He may use men in this.One thing you can be certain of,He will use JesusLovers so keep 'casting' the Net again & you will find God's answer.Love you my brother
---jack8937 on 10/9/07


Thanks for your words of encouragement. I needed that this morning. You also gave me some good information to think upon.

May the Lord bless you.

Your brother in Christ,
---trey on 10/9/07

jack8937: "I don't know.I don't understand..."

---Steveng on 10/8/07

The two olive trees and the two candlesticks that stand before the God of all the earth. Olive trees are the source of the anointing oil, the Holy Spirit and Jesus, pouring out of their Spirit on the Body of Christ, some of us, and the 144,000 Jews sealed for that day. The antichrist makes war on them, internationally and kills them. Just before the last trumpet sounds.
---tommy on 10/8/07

trey, going back I now understand who the John Gill is you mentioned. Immediately upon reading his belief about the two witnesses being 1-God's True Church and 2- God's ministers, my first immediate thought was, Wouldn't God's 'ministers' be a part of God's True Church? If that is the case you'd be back to ONE witness, not Two. We're doing good though and still walking in Love.
---jack8937 on 10/8/07

Trey, you are one cool dude.My prayer is that there will be more like you.There are many here who get out of LOVE quickly if you don't agree with everything they believe.I ask questions of many but then compare their answers with the WORD.If anyone's anwswer doesn't agree with God, who then should I believe?There is only ONE who knows all the answers.God is NEVER wrong but most men often are.A matter of 'who' I believe, not what.
---jack8937 on 10/8/07

Steveng, I gather from your answer that you haven't told Jesus yet. Had you been there when Jesus answered his disciples question about the future, I guess when He finished his answer, you would have said 'fiddle-faddle and walked off. How this would prove you love for God is beyond me, I don't know.I don't understand how someone can love God and think his words are sill nonsense.Love anyway
---jack8937 on 10/7/07

Brother Jack,

Thanks for your comments. Do you have anyone in the ministry that you have a great deal of respect for? Do you ever ask them questions concerning scripture? In studying Rev. 11:8 I previously had come to a very similar conclusion as John Gill. When I read his commentary, we were in agreement. I simply gave the answer as I understand it.

Thanks again for the comments. As Matthew Henry put it, "I guess time will tell."

May the Lord bless you.
---trey on 10/7/07

catherine: "...Others say they are Elijah and Moses."

Moses was buried in a valley by God Himself. Just a little tibbit of information.
---Steveng on 10/7/07

Jana: The two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah. In Rev 11:3 says God will give power to his two witnesses to shut heaven up, to bring on plagues. And if anyone tries to kill them, they will be killed. When they are finished with their testimony, the people will kill them. And they will rejoice over their dead bodies. After 3 1/2 days God's spirit entered into them and they stood to their feet and they ascended into heaven. How did you come up with the Old and New Testaments being the two witnesses?
---Rebecca_D on 10/7/07

jack8937: " ...are just so much fiddle-faddle-nonsense?

First, the two commandments doesn't say we need to know the future.

Second, most people should not try to interpret the future. This is why we have so many interpretations.

Last, We are only to be AWARE of the things to soon to come. We are not to worry about things already happened, nor worry about tommorrow. Christians have too much to do in the present for the workers are few, but the harvest is much.
---Steveng on 10/7/07

Question for Bob6749, You made the statement that EVERY man has to die a physical death. Does this mean that Paul was wrong in 1stCor.15:51 & 1stThess.4:17? 'If' your right, then there will be 'NO'generation of believers CAUGHT UP to Heaven without dying first.Ever Word of God has to be established by 2 or 3 witnesses. What if Enoch and Elijah are God's two witnesses who established the 2 above scriptures? cont'd
---jack8937 on 10/7/07

cont'd, Hebrews 11:5 tells plainly why God translated Enoch. "So that he would NOT see(know-taste)death."(partial)If that was God's reason, to assume that Enoch must come back thousands of years later to see(know/taste death kinda defeats God's purpose for translating Enoch in the first place.In Matt.17:12 said Malachi's prophecy was already fulfilled in John The Baptist.In v10, note the word FIRST.FIRST means 1 time not TWICE.ASSUMPTIONS are very dangerous.
---jack8937 on 10/7/07

To my friend Trey, No doubt whatsoever that you seek The Truth. The truth is, God's answer is right there in The Word, hidden in plain sight. It's not necessary to cast so large a NET to include opinions of men.God's answer to this question has already been revealed to JesusLovers everywhere. Jesus promised that those who seek 'Will' find.This promise is only to those who love THE TRUTH more than love being RIGHT.Keep praying and then cast the net again.
---jack8937 on 10/7/07

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for Steveng, You often offer some very good opinions but-Have you broke the news to Jesus yet that Matt.24,Mark13,Luke 21 and the entire book of Rev. are just so much fiddle-faddle-nonsense?2nd Tim.3:16 seems to disagree with you but perhaps that verse is just so much fiddle-faddle also? You tell God that, cause I ain't.Have you ever read the fiddle-faddle in Rev. 22:19?
---jack8937 on 10/7/07

Some claim the two witnesses are Elijah and Enoch, who did not experience death in order to see death here. Others say they are Elijah and Moses. Because of the nature of work they performed. Malachia 4,4-5.>Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord.
---catherine on 10/6/07

This debate has been going on for centuries.

I believe these two witness to be: God's true church, and his ministers.

If any of you have a chance to read John Gill's Expositor you might check it out. In studying on these two witnesses you also need to study Zechariah chapter 4.
---trey on 10/6/07

jana: "The Two Witnesses are the Old and New Testament witnessing for Christ..."

I suggest keeping with the two commandments Jesus spoke of in the NT and that God spoke of in the OT and leave the history and future history alone. Don't cloud your mind with such fiddle faddle nonsense of trying to interprete the future. You're better off using your valuable energy helping the poor and needy now which God intended for us to do anyway.
---Steveng on 10/4/07

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"The Two Witnesses are the Old and New Testament witnessing for Christ." I have encountered this heresy before. How in the world could the old or New Testament lay in the streets of Jerusalem for three days after being killed.
---mima on 10/2/07

The Two Witnesses are the Old and New Testament witnessing for Christ..We should all know that..They are not human beings but the Word of God speaking of Christ our Lord and Savior..who came and died for our salvation..did human beings ever did such? no.
---jana on 10/1/07

Thanks Steveng, what a blessing it is to hear someone who chooses to believe God's opinion rather that some clumsy fairy tale crafted by those without the Spirit of God.Why so MANY refuse to accept God's Word as final I can NOT understand. Keep on answering with the WORD. Your reply to TwoWitnesses question was great.
---Jack on 10/1/07

Yes, they are people.
---Matthew_from_LA on 9/30/07

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StrongAxe: "These are the only people in the Bible who go to heaven without dying first. I would guess that since nothing corrupt can be there, they would not age as we do here."

Jesus said "And no man hath ascended up to heaven..."
---Steveng on 9/30/07

tom2: "..but alas I won,t make that judgement error."

You just did, in your heart.
---Steveng on 9/30/07

Revelation 11:7-14

"their testimony"
"nations shall see their dead bodies"
"shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves."
"these two prophets"
"the spirit of life from God entered into them"
"and they stood upon their feet"
"And they ascended up to heaven"

They are humans, not the OT and NT, not angels, nor any other pairs of things people have imagined.
---Steveng on 9/30/07

They are Ilisha and Enoch. That is all it could be. Don't you think? I am sure they are real...
---litla on 9/30/07

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For Jerry, Revelations 11:11, and 'they'(the two witnesses) stood upon their 'FEET',(partial),a good question deserves God's answer not mine. God bless all who love the Truth
---Jack on 9/30/07

For Toby, a good theory but- Michael and Gabriel are angels, spirit beings. It is impossible for spirit beings to die. How would one(the antichrist) go about killing an angel? Jesus said seek and you 'shall' find.
---Jack on 9/30/07

Jack: "The Old and New Testament do not have feet."

Sorry, but I can't seem to find the scripture that says the two witnesses have feet. (Neither do olive trees or candlesticks!) Perhaps you can reveal it to us.
---jerry6593 on 9/30/07

The Old and New Testament do not have feet. The Word of God is Spirit and can Not be killed. God took Enoch so that he would not taste death and Moses has already died once.Jack8937
---Jack on 9/29/07

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Elijah can Not be one of the two witnesses. In Matt.17:10-13 Jesus said that Malachi's prophecy about Elijah coming first was 'already fulfilled' in John the Baptist.
---Jack on 9/29/07

Physical mortals yes.Because they die and are resurrected. Where is it written that they are males or even Jews for that matter.Assumptions are without value. Jack
---Jack on 9/29/07

they are real people.
---Duane on 9/17/07

Gee thanks Andrea: but no thank you..I will never be disobedient to God's laws of love, no, we will not be saved by it however, by being obedient to it, one notices error and keeps away from it..and by being obedient to it, one shows God how much one love Him John 14:15..I will stay on God's side of the fence sister, how about you converting over.I will be ever so sad if you miss the bus to heaven
---jana on 9/17/07

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Genesis 5:24
"And Enoch walked with God: and he was not, for God took him."

2 Kings 2:11
"And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder, and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven."

These are the only people in the Bible who go to heaven without dying first. I would guess that since nothing corrupt can be there, they would not age as we do here.
---StrongAxe on 9/17/07

jana - I looked over your blogs and I stand by what I said - if you want to help people you can speak truth. What ever it is you believe, but the condenscending attitude is what I've seen from most of the SDAs -
I get my definition of cult for SDA from cult experts.
Personally I think your so close to Christian

I don't see why you don't ....
---Andrea on 9/13/07

My friend StrongAxe. It is with deep appreciation I thank you for your freindship in showing me my error of understanding this point. A reasonable thought is we know that it is appointed man once to die, so is Elijah 1000/s of years old or dead? I believe he is dead, and was taken away and his body hidden as was done to others, Moses to name 1. cheers
---Toby on 9/13/07

Andrea: no I dont see what your taliking about as self it bcos I am speaking truth and is it bcos SDAs always support their statements with biblical texts and you cant? I never called anyone stupid on this forum but you and your unchristian friends..lets talk about God's Word..not insulting and name calling as you so often do..As for me and my house, we will only follow Truth from the Word of God and not mans. Lord have mercy on the blind and stiffnecked ones..
---jana on 9/13/07

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The TWO WITNESSES ARE THE OLD AND NEW testifies of Christ.The OT testifies of His coming and death, The NT points to His return. Read John 5:39, Zechariah 4:1-14 also called The 2Annointed ones, Psalm 119:130,Light 105 Light n Lamp, John 12:48 He that rejects me, and receives not my words, has one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.Revelation 19 Testimony of Christ.. The 2Witnesses is not Man but the OT and NT.
---jana on 9/12/07


2 Kings 1:17:
"So he died according to the word of the LORD which Elijah had spoken. And Jehoram reigned in his stead in the second year of Jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat king of Judah, because he had no son."

If you read the whole chapter, you will see that Elijah said that Ahaziah the king of Samaria would die - and Ahaziah died (NOT Elijah)
---StrongAxe on 9/12/07

Hi Cynthia. In 2 Kings 1:17 it says Elijah died, and in Hbr 9:27 we are to die only once and as the two witnesses die one cannot be Elijah. However El-i-jah means Mighty one of Yahueh. It will sure be a Mighty One sent from Yahueh to stand up to this world and proclaim the truth.
---Toby on 9/12/07

I was studying the book of Malachi and I came across this verse: chapter 4:5, Behold I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. If you read the book of Revelation 11:3-6, I believe that these verses of scripture are linked to each other. According to these scriptures, Elijah will be one of the two witnesses.
---Cynthia on 9/11/07

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jana - theres that spirit of SDA I told you about - self-righteous- do you see it?

so quick to tell others how wrong or stupid they are bc they don't follow after Ellen.

good luck with that..............
---Andrea on 9/11/07

Jana:Please read Galatians chapter 5. Read it over and over until you truly understand it. Especially the fruits of the Spirit because you need help, serious help, in that area.
---Robyn on 9/11/07

Hi all. I am not exactly sure of all this but the 2 witnesses, stated as the 2 candle sticks, 2 lampstands, that stand before the throne in heaven. Now if no man has ascended except him who came down from heaven then it cant be any "man". Nor can it be our Saviour as he has died once and man is to die only once. I think I can show that the two witnesses are Michael and Gabreal.Sorry people but nowhere can I find that "the books" ever stood before the throne. cont2
---Toby on 9/11/07

cont 2. The 2 who went to Lot and Abraham, poss the same 2 above. Notice each time a calamity is to come on the earth Yahueh sends someone to tell us of the impending doom only sadly few listen. These who went to Abraham and Lot were spirits but appeared as men, and yes it could happen again. Remember all will see Yahushua when he returns so he also must be in a visable "body". This is quite a big study, so happy studying to those who want to know.
---Toby on 9/11/07

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Marcia I dont need your unchristian it is, you dont even know what the true sabbath is..get real friend, I am not Law..I am preach the dont know the 2Witnesses? Study your is the OT/NT which were studying and they are all about Christ..John 1:1,2 He is the Word, V14 made flesh..and they NT/Ot are witenssing 4 Christ..r u going against what God wrote?
---jana on 9/11/07

Definitely! Can 'the beast' litterally kill the old/new testaments of God. The flesh & blood Word died once, never again!

"Enoch" is one of two mortals never to have died, which everyone has to do! Elijah is the other. Enoch prophesied also!

Hence, despite what many believe or say, those are the two witnesses, olive trees, & lampstands of Rev.11:3-14.

I believe God's Word.

Like everyone else here, I don't understand or know it all with my natural mind!
---bob_[Elishama]_6749 on 9/11/07

Marcia, I just found this blog and I am saddened at how ugly and mean-hearted people can be towards one another. Especially on a supposedly 'Christan' website. I will pray for your cold heart to be warmed by the Glory of a Loving Saviour-Jesus Christ.
---Katie on 9/9/07

Jana, I do agree that the Old Testament and the New Testament are the 2 Witnesses and that this prophesy has already been fulfilled. Hallelujah!!! Thank God that almost all of the prophesies have been fulfilled and that the last prophesy for Jesus to come is to spread the [TRUE] Gospel to all the nations, tribes and tongues of the earth... and this is quickly being accomplished!

Even so, Lord Jesus Come!!!
---Katie on 9/9/07

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Luk 9:29 As he was praying, the appearance of his face changed, and his clothes became as bright as a flash of lightning.

Luk 9:30 Two men, Moses and Elijah,

Luk 9:31 appeared in glorious splendor, talking with Jesus. They spoke about his departure, which he was about to bring to fulfillment at Jerusalem.

hey I don't know either?
---Andrea on 8/26/07

Marcia - I've been called much worse by the cults - sorry it is difficult - pray for me I will pray for you too.

The Lord says it is His mercy not mine.
I have to rebuke myself many times - I'm often disappointed that I am getting caught upin the smaller picture and forgetting Christ is my focus.
If you want a hoot go to the 'have you got righteousnes"
they even called me a liar about where I lived.
I keep saying when you don't have an argument attack...
---Andrea on 8/26/07


Hey I'm just an innocent onlooker who was doing you a favor by repeating back what you said in the light of scripture. I'm just trying to give you a little truth. Sometimes the truth hurts, but in the end it will set you free.

You qouted you own opinion not law. No where in the Bible does it say that the OT and the NT is the two witnesses described in Revelation. Who ever told you that was lieing to you.
---Marcia on 8/26/07

Marcia, your unchristian way is not at all funny..I never wrote such..I was merely supporting what Law had said and u altered it by saying I did..Act like a true christian and believe the truth, not mans it is,u dont love God by worshiping on mans day..Amen??? yes, Amen
---jana on 8/26/07

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scripture tells us ,its is appointed unto men once to die and then the if moses comes back as a living man it would make God out as a liar.and thats impossibleI don,t know who they are as I have said all I know is they are his WITNESSES.
---tom2 on 8/26/07

steveng,I was answering a question brother is there a slur in your response towards me ?iam a born again christian brother not a jew,or pharisee.I follow jesus today and would have then also.hope that clears things up for you,if it doesn,t iam sorry.
---tom2 on 8/26/07

patr2,also stevng,there was and is nothing simple about jesus.the scriptures ,aka gospel,tells us about a man who also was and is GOD. as I have belived this truth in my life during the twentieth century I know I woukd have believed in the first.iam at a loss to understand how you know a mans make that assumption from a simple response seems more a bloated ego on your part brother ,but alas I won,t make that judgement error.
---tom2 on 8/26/07

my initial response was some theologians today say enoch and elijah,STEVNG, personally I don,t know who they are,and if GOD wanted us to know cause it was important he would have said who they are,don,t you think?whats important to GOD is the fact as he says THEY ARE MY WITNESSES.MY MY MY THE KEY christians we are all witnesses,so actually they could be anyone living or dead.jesus was a witness,so were all the prophets.
---tom2 on 8/26/07

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PS, there was nothing simple about jesus,simple to a believer yes,once you know and accept and live the truth.the simple thing was jesus is GOD. and all that comes with it.we are men,evil in thought,deed, and loving the dark, with evil hearts.without jesus we are DEAD.TO COME TO THAT UNDERSTANDING is simple and not simple .you have to really choose to follow.
---tom2 on 8/26/07

Some say that the two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah (the only two people specifically mentioned in the Bible as not dying).

Others say they will be Moses and Elijah - just at the Tranfiguration - because those two most archetylipically represent the Law and the Prophets.

We probably won't know for sure until they actually appear.
---Mark on 8/26/07

tom2: "many theologians believe these two witnesses are elijah and enoch, because they are the only 2 men in history never to die.

Yea, and how did Jesus treat the Pharisees (today's theologians)? It seems, if you were living in Jesus' time, that you would most likely follow the Pharisees instead of a simple carpenter (Jesus) and common people (the apostles).
---Steveng on 8/25/07

many theologians believe these two witnesses are elijah and enoch, because they are the only 2 men in history never to die.
---tom2 on 8/25/07

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jana: "The Bible clearly says the 2Witnesses are, the Old and New Testament texts provided by Law ..and thus sayeth the word..amen"

The New Testament didn't exist when Revelation was written. And the NT wasn't in prophesy.
---Steveng on 8/23/07

Gordon,I support what Man says: we didnt write the Holy Word of God but we have the right to alter it to fit our beleifs..we will never go by what the Word trully says. Man clearly says the 2Witnesses are, the Old and New Testament texts provided by Law ..and thus sayeth Jana..amen


The two witnesses of the book of Revelation are revealed as Moses and Elijah.

Thus says, The WORD.
---Marcia on 8/23/07

Gordon,I support what law said: we didnt write the Holy Word of our Lord..He did it Himself so we go along with what He wrote..we will never go by what mere man says. The Bible clearly says the 2Witnesses are, the Old and New Testament texts provided by Law ..and thus sayeth the word..amen
---jana on 8/23/07

Mark: "But not Enoch and Elijah, as both were carried up to heaven without physical death.

"He was carried away by the wind to the happy hunting ground in the sky." (Indian saying) There are many allusions to people dying and going to heaven. And the Bible is no different. It's total conjecture. No one knows for sure - positively or absolutely. Just take it for granted that they are two people who talk.
---Steveng on 8/22/07

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Actually the OT and the NT are the two wings described in the book of Revalation 17:14 "And to the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she may fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nurished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent".

The two witnessess are Enoch and Elijah.
---Marcia on 8/22/07


The Bible says "It is appointed to men to die once - and then comes judgment".
ALL men die - even Jesus. But not Enoch and Elijah, as both were carried up to heaven without physical death. It would thus be appropriate for them to be returned in due time to finish their work here, and then die like everyone else.

And then they come back to life after 3 days. What is wrong with that? Resurrection is one of the key doctrines of Christianity!
---Mark on 8/22/07


Just who is this Prophetess you are talking about? and how does she have the same anointing of Elijah?

And where do you get the name "YAHUVEH"? You are the only person I have ever heard who uses that particular spelling of God's name.
---Mark on 8/22/07

Law, Can a Written Word be murdered in front of myriads of people and then rise up again from the dead and ascend up to Heaven? As the Bible declares that they will. Do Words printed on a Page do such things? Jesus (YAHUSHUA) is the Living Word. He was a real Man, was He not? The 2 Witnesses are 2 human beings GOD will use to testify of the LORD's Judgements and Mercies for repentence. They will live and behave as did Elijah of the Old Testament!
---Gordon on 8/22/07

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THE TWO WITNESSES ARE THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT: John 5:39, 12:48, Zechariah 4:1-14,Psalm 119:130,105 They are not people, it is the Word of God..
---law on 8/22/07

Yes! It has been revealed by a Prophetess of GOD (YAHUVEH) that in fact the Two Witnesses will be a man and a woman. Rather than two men. With the same anointing as Elijah and the like. The LORD is AMIGHTYWIND!
---Gordon on 8/19/07

Yes, I believe the witnesses to be Enoch and Elijah whom the LORD has preserved for this purpose. The two witnesses must have mortal bodies or they would not be subject to death. I believe the two of them are kept in a state of stasis as the mortal body ages, if they were still animated they would have deteriorated physically long ago. The witnesses cannot be angels for angels can not be killed by man or other angels. They can only be destroyed by the Father.
---joseph on 8/18/07

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