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She Wants Hysterectomy Now

I will be having a hysterectomy in September (female problems). My mother-n-law is upset cause it won't happen before school starts. She's upset cause I need her to get my kids on and off of the bus. My husband will be with me, and we don't have anyone else to watch them. Why would she be that way?

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Trish9863 - I do hope that you gave up compulsive shopping. According to what you believe you were still sinning while you were doing it.
---Helen_5378 on 6/8/08

If someone needs something, someone was always willing to lend a helping hand. The people in the church still does that for certain people. But as for me, I haven't seen or talked to anyone from my church. It has been 3 weeks since I have went to church. I still can't drive, or I would go to church. Whatever happened to being Your Brother's Keeper?
---Rebecca_D on 9/24/07

RebeccaD, giving them a piece of your mind will go over well, I'm sure. If you do that, they'll be relieved to see you go.
Wherever you go, you'll be taking yourself with you. A practice of church hopping seldom helps anyone.
---Toby on 9/22/07

I feel like a brand new woman. Like I did before I got sick with my kidney. That was in December of 2005. I feel alot better. Still having some pain, but I have at least 3 more weeks to recover. I am thinking about going to another church. But not before I tell the congregation how much they hurt me.
---Rebecca_D on 9/21/07

RebeccaD - Maybe it is time for you to move on and find another church to attend. Hope you are feeling better by now. Take care.
---Helen_5378 on 9/21/07

Rebecca_D - I'm sorry you've had such a hard time - I'll pray that you begin to see the good that the Lord can bring from this if you wait on Him.
It maybe that you can start a ministry in your church that remember's other in need. Paul was a wounded healer.
I know that from what Satan means for evil, God can turn to good.
How's your health now?
---Andrea on 9/20/07

Rebecca, i'm sure this has been a difficult time without the help you expected. Unfortunately, we are all too human and let one abother down, but the Lord is faithful and I pray you can rest in Him during this time of recovery. May he encompass you about, lift you up aND DRAW YOU EVER CLOSER TO hIM. bLESS YOU.
---christina on 9/20/07

Rebecca_D, you have my sincerest sympathies. It is awful that no one could help you out during this difficult time, it is hard to even imagine that scenario. I do hope that everything was successful and that you are feeling better. God Bless.
---lorra8574 on 9/20/07

Her and her husband came and visit the next day. That was the only visitors I've had. No one from my church came or called. And the hospital I was in was about 15 minutes from where my church family lives. This has been my 9th surgery in a year, the church people came to my house once. That was in January 2006.
---Rebecca_D on 9/20/07

Apparently, your MinLaw didn't visit you at the hospital either?
No one came to help you, I find all of this very odd.
---Cindy on 9/20/07

Sorry it took so long for me to respond. I had my hystrectomy (complete) September 10th. He had to cut me from side to side. My GYN didn't like what he saw on the ultrasound. It has been a rough road. We couldn't get anyone to watch my kids. When we told them my surgery was sooner, everyone was busy all of a sudden. CONT,
---Rebecca_D on 9/20/07

On the day of my surgery, my husband had to rush home get the kids off of the bus. I was already in my own room, but still. I wanted him there. The next day my husband got the kids on the bus and came to the hospital. He stayed there until it was time for him to get the kids. It hurts when people will tell you yeah, you can depend on me. But when it comes down to it, they back out at the last minute. No one from my church has called, or even stopped in to check on me. cont,
---Rebecca_D on 9/20/07

The Pastor and his wife called a week later. But their daughter was in a accident and had to have several surgeries. So if anyone had a reason not to stop in, it would be them. The rest of the people in the church, why they haven't called or paid a visit I don't know. The bible says we are to be our Brother's keeper. Apparently they don't know that.
---Rebecca_D on 9/20/07

alan your right.If people could understand how much their minds effect their physical health and vice avarsa

addictions are first physical and then mental but the mental causes a great deal of chemical(physical) effects.

God cares about our physical bodies and our mental conditions, many mental conditions are organic

depression can be caused by the same chemicals that cause seizures and heart irregularities

I hate the voodoo attitude in the church - people suffer needlessly
---andre5846 on 9/16/07

Helen ... That is where our understandings of "Jesus heals" differ.
Jesus did not promise us an easy life on this earth, did not promise us health or wealth. He promised that we would go to be with God.
You have previously said (I think) that addiction is a mental thing, so cannot be cured by men. But you use a doctor for it.
But what you don't recognise is that mental things are just as much human illness as broken legs.
---alan_of_UK on 9/15/07

Andrea - Praise God for your wonderful testimony of God's grace and His healing. He healed me in a similar way when He took away cigarette addiction from me. It vanished. Bless you.
---Helen_5378 on 9/13/07

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AlanofUK - To hopefully clarify, what I am against is ANYBODY who claims to be able to heal the human mind. The mind is something that only God can get into and heal.
---Helen_5378 on 9/13/07

AlanofUK - Yes I do see where you are coming from. However, my doctor is an ordinary G.P. (General Practitioner). He is not a psychiatrist or psychologist, nor is he a counsellor. He does specialise in addictions of all kinds. So he deals with all aspects of addictions, including things that surface when a patient is getting off something. He treats the physical side, not the mental, although he does take into account what is happening mentally. Hope this helps. (He is my answer to prayer).
---Helen_5378 on 9/13/07

AlanofUK - ("Can't you also see that Jesus may be using the medical profession, and counsellors and AA?") -- No I strongly disagree with that. Jesus "uses" the Cross and His death there to heal people. For whatever reason God is allowing me to go through all this having to be treated by a doctor, which frustrates me no end. I do know for sure however that He will eventually heal me and I do believe it will be here on earth.
---Helen_5378 on 9/13/07

Trish9863 - Thank you. Bless you. :-)
---Helen_5378 on 9/13/07

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Helen ... Your comments do seem cotradictory.
Here and elsewhere you have condemned those who suggest that the medical profession and other secular methods can help with addictions and other illnesses.
Yet you also say "I am also under the very close supervision of a doctor who is an expert in addictions"
Don't you see the illogicality of your comments?
Can't you also see that Jesus may be using the medical profession, and counsellors and AA?
---alan_of_UK on 9/13/07

5) After that I went through a lot of analysis and things. GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) seizure disorder, OCD, depression, in the end - its been years since I've been depressed don't need any meds - I needed to go through therapy. It was good for me. I've been to christian counselors and secular - I learned something wherever. Sometimes I thought I was there to give my testimony to them - I've grown and been blessed and been able to bless.
Remember Paul, the wounded healer
---Andrea on 9/12/07

I hope you were helped in some way by the posts here (even though so many of them are no answer to your particular question). :-)
Keep us posted!
---Jen on 9/12/07

3)He said" but I won't let you". It was very powerful and I knew it didn't matter that I was on drugs - He still loved me. It never was about being good enough. It was about standing "IN" His grace in His righteousness.
So of course being a drug addict I did another line. Two weeks later - I realized that I hadn't refilled my drug. It had been a week and I was clean.
---Andrea on 9/12/07

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4)Since then I've had occasion where I've been on anti-anxiety drugs and amphetamine (prescribed) it is not a problem. I don't take anything today - barely an aspirin.
It taught me more about the grace of God then all the books ever written.
---Andrea on 9/12/07

1)Helen - I don't mind sharing - before I got saved I'd done drugs recreationally. I stopped - then I wanted to lose weight so I started taking speed again. Well this time I couldn't stop. After a year I was doing 2-300$ a week (20 yrs ago.) It got so bad - I was reading my bible (I'd been saved a few years) and I read where it said no drunkard would enter the kingdom of heaven.

---Andrea on 9/12/07

2)I knew that was for me. And I couldn't stop so I was crushed - I told God that I knew I was going to hell, but I'd be the only one there that still loved Him. When I closed my eyes - I had a vision of Christ with His arms extended.
---Andrea on 9/12/07

Helen: I will pray for you. I have worked in psychiatric hospitals and rehabs here in the US, and it is generally a given that doctors do not prescribe Valium or Xanax to people with alcohol addiction history.
---Trish9863 on 9/12/07

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Helen #2:
Ecclesiastes 4:9
"Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their work:"

Ecclesiastes 4:12
"Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken."
---Trish9863 on 9/12/07

2 Corinthians 1:3-5
3Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, 4who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have received from God. 5For just as the sufferings of Christ flow over into our lives, so also through Christ our comfort overflows.
---Trish9863 on 9/12/07

2 Corinthians 1:6-7
6If we are distressed, it is for your comfort and salvation, if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer. 7And our hope for you is firm, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings, so also you share in our comfort.
---Trish9863 on 9/12/07

Trish9863 - ("Valium is a benzo, and is therefore generally NOT prescribed to people with a history of alcoholism in their pasts because of its addictive nature.") -- Are you a doctor? It was given to me when I was in hospital getting off the Alcohol! The doctors who have treated me since have ALL known I was an Alcoholic! Maybe it is different here. Trish, the only way you could maybe help me is to please pray for me as the struggle has been great for ten years now. Thank you.
---Helen_5378 on 9/12/07

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Trish9863 - ("The medications I am on are NOT addictive and I am taking them under the supervision of a doctor who understands them.") -- I am also under the very close supervision of a doctor who is an expert in addictions. The reason why I could not get off the valium is that every time I tried I would get violently ill. It is because there were a myriad of problems that the tablets had suppressed, and they are now being treated. (cont...)
---Helen_5378 on 9/12/07

2/.. (Trish9863) - I ask that you respect where I am coming from and please not keep hashing my problem over. It has been very difficult to stay in faith, but I KNOW that the Lord Jesus WILL deliver me totally. I know because He never changes and He has already delivered me totally from alcohol and cigarettes. Please pray for me. Thanks. :-)
---Helen_5378 on 9/12/07

Trish9863 - Can you show me where in the Bible Jesus says (in effect) "I have died for you on the Cross, but now you go and seek out some human help for I am not able to help you"! Can you imagine Jesus saying that?
---Helen_5378 on 9/12/07

Trish9863 - How would you handle life without 12-step programs?
---Helen_5378 on 9/12/07

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Andrea - Thank you for showing me the love of Christ. I will be praying for you too. By the way I am curious as to how Jesus delivered you, that is if you want to share, if not I understand totally and respect you. Blessings. :-)
---Helen_5378 on 9/12/07

Your mother in law has a right to choose to help you... or not to help you. She is not obligated in any way (sounds harsh, I know). Could your husband get the kids on and off the bus? Could the surgery have taken place earlier? Could someone at church or in your area help you? I myself am trying to foster new friendships in my community, maybe that would help you in a time of need also. Reach out in faith - do to others as you'd like them to do to you. :-)
---Jen on 9/11/07

Helen - I just want you to know that if your putting your faith in Christ to heal you then I absolutely support you in that and do not judge you.

I was delivered but I was saved before I got delivered from drugs.
I always thought that Christ wanted me to understand just that. that he didn't love me less bc I was addicted to drugs. And it was not until I knew that - then He delivered me.

Be blessed you are in His presence and I will pray for you.
---Andrea on 9/11/07

Helen: As usual, you cannot see the problem in your posts about addictions. You condemn participation in 12 Step programs, yet continue to be actively addicted to a drug that is addictive.
---Trish9863 on 9/11/07

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Helen #2: You do not have all the answers for people when it comes to addictions. You condemn me for my career in mental health, and my participation in 12 step programs, YET, I am not abusing or using ANY addictive substances or behaviors. The medications I am on are NOT addictive and I am taking them under the supervision of a doctor who understands them.
---Trish9863 on 9/11/07

Helen #3: Valium is a benzo, and is therefore generally NOT prescribed to people with a history of alcoholism in their pasts because of its addictive nature. This is why it is so important for someone who has a history of alcoholism so tell a doctor that fact because of the dangers.
---Trish9863 on 9/11/07

Andrea - It is not recovery that I have found in Christ. It is, in the case of my former addictions to Alcohol and Cigarettes, a total complete setting free from those addictions. With the cigarettes, I confessed it to Jesus as sin and told Him I believe He took it all on the Cross and He freed me completely from it's horrible grip. I believe that He will eventually do the same with my current addiction.
---Helen_5378 on 9/11/07

Trish9863 - ("As for your insistence that Christ delivers, if you are such a big advocate of that stance, why are you still taking Valium?") -- Ask Jesus because I do not know. What I DO know is that Jesus will eventually set me free totally. I believe it will happen suddenly, like in an unusual set of circumstances. When it happens the whole world will know about it.
---Helen_5378 on 9/11/07

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Trish9863 - ("if you are such a big advocate of that stance, why are you still taking Valium?") -- You know what Trish, it really is none of your business. You seem to take great delight in pointing out my, and others, faults yourself. It is called self-righteousness. I bet YOU have a closet full of problems that you would not want aired on a world-wide website such as this. Also, you yourself are taking medication, so why are you picking on me? As I said, NONE of us are perfect.
---Helen_5378 on 9/11/07

Mary - ("some people God has taken away all their desire, some of us still wrestle with it--in my case, the latter. Some make me feel "less Christian" if I am still tempted to drink,") -- Nobody should make you feel guilty. Condemnation is of the devil. Unfortunately, some delight in pointing the finger at somebody who is not yet delivered. I struggle too, so you are not alone. Give it to Jesus and He will deliver you. He already did it on the Cross. :-) ((hug))
---Helen_5378 on 9/11/07

Helen the fact that you have found recovery without the steps is a testimony to Christ.
When a Christian goes to a place for help they take Jesus with them and Jesus can and does find Christian people to minister to them.

Why would God not answer these people's prayers too. For He makes it to rain on the just and the unjust. So maybe He puts believers there to minister to the ones crying out to Him.
---Andrea on 9/11/07

Trish9863 - ("The change is spiritual and if Helen really knew what she was talking about, she would attend some meetings and study the 12 steps, which are Biblical and learn about them herself, instead of spouting off about it as if she is an expert, which she is not.") -- You should be ashamed to call yourself a Christian. Those programs are of the world, not of God. I DO know what they are about, as I used to attend them myself. (cont..)
---Helen_5378 on 9/11/07

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2/.. (Trish9863) -- It is gross error for you to point Christians to these programs. Fallen man CANNOT help fallen man. Scripture clearly teaches to "not put confidence in man", but to "trust in the Lord with all your heart" (Proverbs 3:5). You should be pointing ALL people to Jesus. Jesus Christ is THE Deliverer of all Christians, not man. These self-help programs breed self-righteousness and pride.
---Helen_5378 on 9/11/07

3/.. (Trish9863) -- These problems of whatever sort of addictions can ONLY be overcome by being IN CHRIST and trusting that He already won the victory over it on the Cross. Sometimes a person gets delivered immediately. Seems mostly that it takes time. Whatever the case we will all be healed in Heaven. But to have victory down here we MUST hand it over to the Lord, and not "take counsel from the ungodly" (Psalm 1:1).
---Helen_5378 on 9/11/07

Helen: For what sin do I need to repent this time? You always accuse me of some sin, yet refuse to take the log out of your own eye.

As for your insistence that Christ delivers, if you are such a big advocate of that stance, why are you still taking Valium? Has Christ delivered you, or do you still suffer from an addiction?
---Trish9863 on 9/10/07

Hi everyone, I have attended Celebrate Recovery at my local church for a long time now and I praise God for this ministry, personally. :) Some argue this and that about whether it's "biblical" or "not biblical", meanwhile, many of us are being delivered from drugs/alcohol as we let God work through the ministry. I love it :)
---Mary on 9/10/07

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Part 2: I also think we need to be careful not to judge our fellow overcomers--some people God has taken away all their desire, some of us still wrestle with it--in my case, the latter. Some make me feel "less Christian" if I am still tempted to drink, which, to me, is not helpful.
---Mary on 9/10/07

Helen if I go to the hospital I don't ask if they're Christians. The 12 - step program is not Christian. It has many biblical principles.
When you go to school - its not necessarily christian.

When you need help you can go to a 12-step program and take the Christian part with you.

many people who are in need of God - find Christ through the programs - but they are there for everyone. (like a hospital)
---Andrea on 9/10/07

3/... (Trish9863) -- Having said all that, there is not one single one of us who are perfect on this Blog. We ALL have something in our lives that the Lord is dealing with. Let him who is WITHOUT sin cast the first stone (John 8:7). Anything that is of man breeds self-righteousness, which results in one pointing out another's problem very readily and taking aim. First it was Mima, now it is me again. You need to repent Trish. :-)
---Helen_5378 on 9/10/07

Maybe just because she is a MOTHER-IN-LAW!!
I think it's in the Mother-In-Law Union by-laws or something.........
---berf on 9/10/07

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Trish9863 - I HAVE been in a 12-Step program so I know exactly what they teach and how they operate. That was before I got saved. Now I have Jesus to strengthen me and in the end He will heal me completely.
---Helen_5378 on 9/9/07

Andrea - ("The 12 steps are not about the addiction they are about the person learning to follow a program that is not of their own design. Sound biblical - it is.") -- I sounds like it is Biblical, but it is not. God did not make 12-Step programs, He sent His only Son to die on the Cross for sinners. Jesus is the only answer.
---Helen_5378 on 9/9/07

Trish9863 - ("It seems hypocritical to me to speak about addiction being sin when you are actively addicted,") -- That must include you too Trish because your 12-Step program/s teach that once addicted always addicted. My Jesus sets people free, in fact He makes a totally new person in Him.
---Helen_5378 on 9/9/07

Andrea: You are right about 12 steps. There is only one time when the addiction is even mentioned in all of the 12 steps, and that is in the first step. The rest of the steps are about making changes in one's thinking and behavior, and relationships. The change is spiritual and if Helen really knew what she was talking about, she would attend some meetings and study the 12 steps, which are Biblical and learn about them herself, instead of spouting off about it as if she is an expert, which she is not.
---Trish9863 on 9/9/07

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Helen - and I know what works. God is functional -sometimes we can "name it and claim it" other times we need to learn character.
I've been delivered, not everyone gets healed like that.

The 12 steps are not about the addiction they are about the person learning to follow a program that is not of their own design. Sound biblical - it is.

Every program can be secularized.
I recieve physical healing as a gift from God even if I had to take medicine to get it.
---Andrea on 9/9/07

Helen: How can you possibly speak about 12 Step programs when you are not in one, and still actively addicted to a drug yourself? It seems hypocritical to me to speak about addiction being sin when you are actively addicted, and therefore sinning, yourself.
---Trish9863 on 9/9/07

Andrea - What the 12-Step programs teach is that you are an addict for the rest of your life albeit a "recovering" one. Jesus says "I HAVE SET YOU TOTALLY FREE". As I keep on saying JESUS TOOK ALL ADDICTIONS ON THE CROSS. Man's problem is SIN and only the Blood of Jesus can set anybody free. The world offers you bondage for life, Jesus sets you free for life.
---Helen_5378 on 9/9/07

Trish - ("Please show me a dictionary that gives me God's definition of addiction") -- I do not know of one and doubt there is one. God does call all wrong-doing SIN. Before Adam fell there was no such thing as addiction/s.
---Helen_5378 on 9/9/07

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Andrea: You are right, the 12 steps are rooted in scriptures, and there is a great Bible called "The Recovery Devotional Bible" that helps show what scriptures go with each step.

I have been in AA and OA for 18 years and know that they teach personal responsibility for one's behavior in ALL areas, not just addiction.
---Trish9863 on 9/9/07

Trish - I am still battling the problem after ten long years of trying to get off them. I have other problems that have surfaced that my doctor is treating too. It is extremely painful for me, and I would appreciate if you did not bring it up in such a straightforward manner. Bless you and please pray for me.
---Helen_5378 on 9/9/07

How ridiculous, half the world is drug addicts then. That is all that junk that the "Anonymous" groups teach. Self-condemnation without repentance is what it is.
---Helen_5378 on 9/8/07
I spent enough time around 12 - step groups to know they teach resposibility for your own actions. It is very biblical (roots were more bible based then most know) all christians could learn decency by going through the 12 steps. They'd also learn how to argue without all the nasty remarks and gossip.
---Andrea on 9/8/07

Helen: Yes, in essence, cigarette smokers are drug addicts in a literal definition of drug and addict. Look up the word drug in a dictionary, and you will see that nicotine fits into that definition. Look up the word addict and you will see that smokers are addicts. Just try to prevent a smoker from smoking when they need to. It is not a pretty sight.
---Trish9863 on 9/8/07

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Helen: According to American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary addiction means: "Habitual psychological and physiological dependence on a substance or practice beyond one's voluntary control."

Please show me a dictionary that gives me God's definition of addiction, as I can't seem to find that word in the Bible.
---Trish9863 on 9/8/07

Helen: Yes, I was sinning when I was shopping compulsively. The Lord dealt with me as a father would deal with a child who stepped out of line. I no longer shop as I used to, as I am on a very tight budget, with no wiggle room for anything. Thank you for your concern about my past problem with shopping addiction.

How is the Valium addiction going? Are you still weaning off of them, or have you kicked the habit completely yet?
---Trish9863 on 9/8/07

Susie: You have not addressed the other mentally ill people I treat. I rarely get to work with the dual diagnosis unit in the hospital because my schedule has me working with the other sick patients, like those with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. You eluded to the fact that my profession would not be needed if we got rid of the addiction mentality.

I am not an addictions counselor. I am a licensed psychotherapist, qualified to work with all mental illnesses, not just addictions.
---Trish9863 on 9/8/07

Susie #2: What were your qualifications to work with people in a rehab setting? What research, scientific, have you done on addictions and recovery? How much professional reading have you done on the subject of addiction recovery?

I am just curious. What was your exact title for the job you did at the rehab? Were you a psychotherapist, counselor, what?

Have you ever worked with anyone with mental illness, like bipolar disorder, or schizophrenia?
---Trish9863 on 9/8/07

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Susie - ("So many who are calling themselves Christians are suggesting everything but Jesus.") -- Amen Susie. If they are Christians they have departed from the truth and are a part of the apostate church. They have left the Cross of Christ. I know Who set me free from cigarettes and His name is Jesus. Jesus took ALL addictions on the Cross. Bless you. Love your posts.
---Helen_5378 on 9/8/07

Cindy - You speak rubbish. Obviously you have no idea what it is like to be addicted to anything. Hurting Christians need to be loved, not spoken to like they are second-class citizens. After all, they too are children of God, and guess what we are all ONE in Christ. But then psycotherapy babble has no love to it, just a book full of rules. Jesus is the only answer to ALL of life's problems. He took it ALL on the Cross.
---Helen_5378 on 9/8/07

Susie} Face it. Jody martin is right. You haven't a clue what LOVE is. Therapeuticully I think you mean "tough love". Tough love only works if you have a trusting relationship with the client. You are not talking to a client here. You are venting anger and lack LOVE. And talk about honesty? Exactly how many patients were there? And every one knows there is a high success rate with those who find Jesus but they won't find Him through YOU.
---litla on 9/8/07

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