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Jewish Interpretation of Daniel

Could one of our Jewish friends tell me how you interpret Daniel 9:26 "And after the sixty two weeks, Messiah shall be cut off" How can you not see this as Jesus Christ and His crucifixion?

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To continue, the use of the phrase "cut off" is never used in the Hebrew bible to refer to a righteous or good person. Other Jewish beliefs concerning this passage is that the cut off "anointed one" is a Sadduccean priest, and "will be no more" refers to the end of that priesthood. The saduccess were the corrupt sect influenced highly by the Romans. They did not believe in the Oral law or in Resurrection. cont.
---Tony on 9/29/07

The NIV substitutes the hebrew "will be no more" for "but not for himself". This is the Jewish position as I understand it. There probably is much more or slightly different variations on this interpretation. There are other issues with Daniel including a supposed difference in Jewish, vs Secular chronology that once taken into account explain the vast differences in interpretation between Jews and Christians. While I am not a Jew I thank you and may G-d be glorified.
---Tony on 9/29/07

cont... Even though G-d allows the temple and Jerusalem to be rebuilt, it is built "during troubled times", which means during the time of punishment decreed by the Law of Moses. 490 years. That is the punishment that Daniel is lamenting at the beginning of chapter 9. He is sitting in the first year of Darius the Mede and has no idea that Cyrus will be on the scene in a year or so.
---Tony on 9/28/07

Apologies, I made a mistake in my post below. It should not have begun "Jack is absolutely correct". I meant to say "Jack, StrongAxe is absolutely correct" etc. Sorry if my post confused people. I can see myself that it didn't really make sense.
---RitaH on 9/29/07

cont...The Emperor Hadrian would make a treaty with the Jewish nation for 7 years but would eventually break it, because after 3 1/2 years he violates that covenant/treaty, ends the sacrifices and sets up the "mute abomination" (The pig on the altar, I think).
---Tony on 9/28/07

cont. The problem is that the emergence of the word in verse 25 is the word of G-d through Jeremiah that the temple and jerusalem would be rebuilt. The anointing of the prince in 25 is the coming of Cyrus who then decreed the rebuilding of the temple and jerusalem. The time between the word and the command of Cyrus is 7 weeks or (actually 52 years). The temple and Jerusalem will then be rebuilt for 62 weeks or 434 years (actually 438 years from the exile to the second destruction of Jerusalem.
---Tony on 9/28/07

It is translated in the King James as Messiah, and in the NIV with a capitalized "The Anointed One". In tiny footnotes the NIV gives the hebrew translation of "an anointed one". Also to Jewish commentators, the anointed one spoken of in verse 26 is Agrippa, the last Jewish king of second temple times. The prince is Titus, who would command destruction of the temple..cont
---Tony on 9/28/07

I know there was a group of believers a few years ago that followed the path of the crusaders, repenting and apologizing for Christian abuses. Has anyone heard more of this?
The Jews today are afraid of Christians - whenever Christians come after jews its to kill them.
I hope they use us to their own benefit now in Israel. they are very wary of our help (should be) but we should help them - if only for all the wrong done to them.
---Andrea on 9/28/07

I believe it has something to do with the Christian bible's capitalization of the word "messiah". In hebrew moshiach is simply any annointed a prince, king, or priest. "Messiah" is how the christian text translates this leading one to believe it is speaking of the foretold messiah. To reflect "The Messiah" the hebrew text would have to say HaMoshiach. Romanized of course. It does not. Jews believe this capitalization is done to deceive. Cont.
---Tony on 9/28/07

Jack is absolutely correct. Whether people have some kind of religion (other than Christianity) or none at all we need to know why they feel the way they do before we can offer them something that is better than they have at present.
---RitaH on 9/28/07

I love the Jewish people and I believe God does too. We should encourage dialogue and Christians could begin to understand that some of the rejection of the gospel has been due to supposed christians raping and murdering them throughout the ages.
In Bosnia a few years ago "christians" were burning crosses into the skin of dead and captured muslims.
---Andrea on 9/28/07


While it's nice and convenient to speak from a place of perfect knowledge and wisdom, it's important to understand how other people think if one wants to have any kind of dialogue with them, or to address their concerns.

You can't tell someone why their belief is wrong and yours is correct, unless you understand what their belief is.
---StrongAxe on 9/28/07

Does it really matter what an adherent of any religious group that has rejected Jesus for 2,000 or so years, and therefore is deprived of the Holy Spirit, thinks of ANY part of the Bible?

How could such opinion possibly be worthwhile?
---Jack on 9/27/07

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