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Afraid To Go To Church

Do you feel that people are afraid to go to churches, and are turned off by Christianity because they will encounter a "Critical Spirit" that will do more damage, than any good?

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t7KQTG Thanks-a-mundo for the article post.Much thanks again. Much obliged.
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many things go on at churches of today. I am sure it was that way in Jesus day. we just have many more churches now and division on every aspect. one must be careful when trying to find a church home. Christians need to fellowship with each other.
---shira4368 on 2/5/13

I have never heard of being scared to go to church. I've heard lot of excuses but never this one. my sister gave me a different one every sunday. I use to be the same way so I do understand it.
---shira4368 on 2/5/13

Why are there so many different churches? lack of right division.

Many think for the same reason there are so many different restaurants: people have different tastes.

there is also large confusion in the church regarding what we ought to be doing.

There is terrible doctrinal disunity in the church in large part due to a failure to recognize the greater commission given to the apostle Paul to us-ward in this dispensation (Eph 3:1-9).

By failing to distinguish Pauls ministry of the mystery of Christ to all men from the ministry of the Twelve to prophetic Israel, confusion ensues.

Divisions are created when a doctrine to Israel is combined with a mystery truth.
---michael_e on 2/2/13

HYPOCRITES! Not too many God's people. God's people will be careful of criticizing others.
---pat on 2/2/13

I think more that people are hungry and not fed. Empty before church. Empty during church. Empty after church. There is not much worth in going to church. Most pastors are not all that good. If they did not serve refreshments at church, people wouldn't be fed at all. There are common questions that scare away people that one expects others to ask. MORE, people are just not being fed.
---Born on 2/2/13

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I do have one more thing to say about "critical spirit" in churches. If you go to a mega church you won't be bothered with all the critical spirits. not even convicting spirit. hundreds gather in those generic churches and entertain each other. If you ever really hear a God called preacher, you wouldn't go to a mega church ever.
---shira4368 on 5/11/12

for years my husband was afraid of church. He didn't want the convicting Holy Spirit to bother him. so the "critical" spirit is not critical at is convicting.
---shira4368 on 5/10/12

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It sounds like some of you have been going to the church with the Laodiceans (Rev 3:14-).

Maybe you should look for a church more like the one in Smyrna (Rev 2:8-).

I too am very leary of anyone who is constantly stating they are a Christian. We are not to judge people, but we are to be fruit inspectors (Matt 7:20). ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!

Lord bless you all,
---trey on 12/20/07

Hello Everyone.

Back to the topic.

I believe God's main objective in all He has done is 'relationship'. Relationship with Him and relationship amongst His believers in His church which is meant to demonstrate the relationship between Christ and His Bride. Alas! Relationships require that we expose our vulnerabilities and that is hard. It takes committment and TRUST. Unfortunately, it is mostly the TRUST factor that is abused. This makes us afraid of church.
---Nicolette on 12/20/07

The Lord said he came not to bring peace, but a sword.
It was the religious people he rebuked and corrected.
The prophets were sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not the heathen.
He said the religious would persecute and cast his people out of churches.
He said a man's enemies would be those of his own household.
A new Christian should get a good view of that here.
Truth vs. heresy.
And the Spirit of God should shew them who is right.
---Frank on 12/19/07

By reading the mean bantering back and forth of this confirms that there are a lot of nasty, mean tempered people in this world that say they are Christians. Shame on you and this is on a Christian site.
---Annie on 12/19/07

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Oh trust me...i am not a people person and I have been hurt by churches. I understand being uncomfortable in that setting. I do trust God, his people are a different story altogether.
---Tony on 12/11/07

Okay, I'm probably gonna get slack for this, but I wish I could find a church that doesn't do that thing where everybody leaves their seats and walks around and shakes your hand or hugs you before the sermon starts. I mean, I know some people like it and find it to be nice and friendly, but not me. I'm a friendly person, but see no point in all that.
---sue on 12/10/07

Whisper ... I have NEVER corrected anyone's spelling unless it is just after they themselves have criticised someone else's. I don't recall correcting yuor words, although I may have pointed out that US useage and UK useage differ
One of my first notes to you pointed out that your style, with no punctuation and lots of UPPER CASE, was difficult to understand, and you seem to have taken note of that, so it appears it was a valid comment
---alan_of_UK on 12/10/07

Whisper ... I have never mocked your questions, or your views, but often I have disagreed with them, but to disagree or even challenge is not to mock.
And I still don't understand what you meant by "blood of my testimony". It sounded like a buzz-phrase (we do get them here) but probably there is a meaning for it, which maybe you can give me?
---alan_of_UK on 12/10/07

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Whisper ... Anyway, if I have upset yuo at any time, I truly apologise!
---alan_of_UK on 12/10/07

I was baptized when I was 15 years old. When I turned 18 I met my first common law husband I sinned before I got married. I feel ashamed for what I did in the past. Good news I am now HIPAA certified and I passed the NCCT test.
---Georgina on 12/10/07

I love Jesus but I can't stand church people. The bigger and more "evangelical" and "born again" the church, the worse it is, in my experience. Christianity is not about being better than everyone else and smug about one's "personal salvation." The selfish individualism is sickening. That being said I'm glad for the internet because I can often find uplifting friends on message boards who truly love Christ and welcome the Holy Spirit for non-selfish reasons.
---Sarah on 12/9/07

Alan of U.K. I don't think you have ever missed an opportunity to be rude to me. However, You correct my spelling, my words, my questions, and quite often make a mockery of the stuff I put on here, I make mistakes, I am not perfect, I never claim to be, people make me into what I am not, and often drive knives in my spirit...if you were here, I am sure you would persecute me as Jesus was before he went on the cross, it is obvious that this particualar blog describes someone exactly like you.
---Whisper on 11/3/07

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Whisper "blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony"
Yes ... of course! ... but "blood of my testimony"?
---alan_of_UK on 10/26/07

Andrea "There are probably 10 people on this site that really do it for the love of Christ"
How do you identify them?
I see many more than that ... including our half dozen or so Roman Catholic friends, who do have that love of Christ although I beleive they have many errors and unnecessaries about their doctrine and practice.
And there are many more than that who have the love of Christ, including others who disagree strongly with my views, and yours.
---alan_of_UK on 10/26/07

Nicollette - we are all being changed. Some are old carnal christians some young spiritual christians vica vs. But we must keep our eyes on Christ for He is the author and finisher of our faith. Its Him that develops us. I wish it were faster but its always a learning process and a wondrous journey. Please remember 85 words does not allow for much niceties. It does not mean we don't love each other. Forgive the rudeness please and join our family as dysfunctional as it is.
be blessed
---Andrea on 10/26/07

Hello All. I myself have attempted to attend a Christian church in the city that I live. It was my all consuming hunger to undertstand more of your community of believers that drove me to attend. Unfortunately, my experience was not what I expected. That notwithstanding, I admit that my expectations may have been formed from ignorance. I will try again. I feel compelled to.
---Nicolette on 10/26/07

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I think we will just leave it at that, Chow for now.
---Whisper on 10/25/07

just a thought j. I'm out of this.
---Andrea on 10/25/07

Andrea and Whisper: again, I'm only judging what I'm reading. I don't know you, and I don't pretend to. Also, what specifically do you think deserves an apology? Apologize and be "best buds"? I think we've all clarified enough to understand eachother. I don't just apologize for the sake of appearing nice. Otherwise what is my apology worth? What did I say that was off? Maybe I'll say sorry. Maybe we'll just agree to disagree. Let me know.
---j._the_nomad on 10/25/07

nomad, I embrace conflict as a learning experience.

Maybie I should learn how to do this too.

Alan of the UK. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony, and they loved not their lives unto the death.

ALOT LIKE ME, U.C? This is just in reference to the accuser of our brethren which accused them before our God day and night,, accualy speaking of spiritual warfare.
---Whisper on 10/25/07

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j. if you know your scripture and like heated debate (in love) go to the mormon blogs. Its exasperating! But has challenged me to know what and why I beleive as I do
be blessed,
---Andrea on 10/25/07

j. -- suggestion: you really did prejudge whisper. apologize and be best buddies. You may not always agree with her (or me) but she has a great passion for Christ.
There are probably 10 people on this site that really do it for the love of Christ. whisper is one of them.
---Andrea on 10/25/07

Andrea and Whisper: I appreciate your openness and honesty. My problem is with some of the statements on this blog. I see argument as a great way to gain understanding and to address doctrinal issues. I embrace conflict as a learning experience. Some don't. That's okay. And I'm only judging what is being said to the best of my ability, not anyone's salvation. PS: don't avoid heated debate in the name of Christian compassion. We are called to love, yes. We're also called to be shrewd...
---j._the_nomad on 10/25/07

That used to be the norm....but the church (for the most part) has become more real..dealing with the issues of everyday life. There are no pedestals to put anyone on. We are all facing the same temptations, we are all struggling to let go of our human nature. No finger least not in the modern church like GCC in Granger Ind.
---Patricia on 10/25/07

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"blood of my testimony"
Well, what does, it mean?
---alan_of_UK on 10/25/07

Whisper ... I can't understand what you are sying in your latest post!
Use of full-stops (periods) and capital letters at the beginnings of sentences may help.
---alan_of_UK on 10/25/07

nome=mad, I simply do not understand how to help you, I have no idea why you are coming at me, obviously it is something I have written, I just have no idea what it is.
---Whisper on 10/24/07

j. I agree with you but after a few months on these blogs it becomes increasingly difficult to express the warm christian compassion whilst battling false religions.
I know whisper as very compassionate - that why I took exception.
I also know sometimes I sound exremely harsh and when I reread I see my heart - you cannot. It is a battle
---Andrea on 10/24/07

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Whisper: I guess you can say it's "judgmental wrath" if you're the one defining the terms. You're obviously one of those people who considers every disagreement as an attack from the devil. Speaking of the devil, maybe you take issue with me for not tossing scriptures around sloppily as you do. Remember when Jesus was tempted? Everything Satan said was biblical. Yet somehow, he was wrong. The difference between us is, I'm not using Jesus blood, or word, to overcome you. Not what it's for.
---j._the_nomad on 10/24/07

Andrea: I see your point. However, I am addressing popular church culture rather than people I know personally. Whisper seems to be speaking of people she has contact with. I keep sinners as friends, the people I mentioned are a deterrent for some of these friends to convert. Also, I find it frustrating when human beings attempt to judge who is saved and who is not. That knowledge belongs to God alone. If you would like to disagree doctrinally, I'm all for it.
---j._the_nomad on 10/24/07

... Alot of people don't go to Church because they can't tell the difference between the truth and the garbage Benny Hinn teaches. They think all of us are TBN, Pat Robetson, Joel Osteen-types. ...our televangelist brethren, and self-help brethren have really mucked things up for us. The modern church is one big self-help bonanza. It's nauseating.
---j._the_nomad on 10/19/07

J - I just don't see what is so different about what whisper said about the churches and what you say about TV...
---Andrea on 10/24/07

Nomad: As I re-read your blog below I find it so bizarre that you come out like WWE contender ready to beat me up in the Spiritual realm but not with GODS HOLY, but with a JUDGEMENTAL WRATH no tongue or blog that rises up against me will prosper, and again I overcome you devil by the word of the lamb and the blood of my testimony.
---Whisper on 10/24/07

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Whisper: you are correct. I don't know who you are, what you've done, or where you've been. However, niceties are a luxury I can't afford when you talk of sinners as you do. What you said was Pharisaical in nature. PS: I don't have a "critical spirit", I am an analytical thinker. Big difference. Also, Jesus didn't shed blood for you to overcome me. It was to cleanse sin. Don't take every argument as an attack from Satan. It's ignorant.
---j._the_nomad on 10/23/07

Thanks for that Andrea, Bless your heart.

I dare not put some of my experiences, as they would not be beleived anyway, but yes Andrea, you are on the target again.
---Whisper on 10/23/07

Sadly enough, many good Christians have been turned away from churches due to hypocracy, "debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults,..." etc. (2 Cor 12:20).

We as Christians should press on, and not "forsake the assembling of ourselves as the manner of some is... (Heb. 10:25)."

Remember Christian, Christ is perfect, but man is imperfect. Look unto Him, and not unto him.

Bless you all,
---trey on 10/23/07

i have never been to a church as wonderful as the one i attend now. sitting here i see what so many churchs miss. you go in there you feel loved from the pastor down. what your talking about is people going to church and feeling snubed or mistrusted but people are people all over and they want to go where they are loved. and yes the pastor preaches against sin every service you can have it both ways.
---Kraus on 10/23/07

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my guess would be that they are both active in loving the people of the world and their church. I know whisper is a very deep and caring Christian woman of God and your inference is uncalled for.
---Andrea on 10/22/07

The Preacher has a shepherd's heart.
The Preacher called by God would rather leave the 99 and go after the one lost sheep.
He has a genuine Godly love for the sheep and a desire to care for the flock of God.
---Bob on 10/22/07

Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, Teacher

These are heavenly gifts to the Church given by Jesus Christ. Congregants will recognize the true call on these individual's lives. Their gifts will make room for them. These gifts are not given to laypeople. They are leadership positions.
---Bob on 10/22/07

Luke 4:18,19
Jesus said, "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me
to preach the gospel to the poor, he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted,
to preach deliverance to the captives,
recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
To Preach the Acceptable Year of the Lord."
---Bob on 10/22/07

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The Preacher

It is a calling from God. Any preacher called by God will tell you that to preach is like a fire shut up in their bones. The Gospel is deep in their heart, and when it comes out, it does with great power from the Holy Spirit.

The unction to preach. God anoints His preachers like the pen of a ready writer.
God's Word when preached by His preachers brings conviction and brings a change into the lives of the hearers.
---Bob on 10/22/07

Nomad you talk through both sides of your mouth. And you have a 'critical spirit' You have no idea who I am, what I have done, or where I have been. and please do not accuse Catherine, it's just not the Christian thing to do but if you are on the other side eat your heart out I overcome you by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB AND THE WORD OF MY TESTIMONY IN in the name of JESUS.
---Whisper on 10/22/07

Whisper this person does not even know us. I will tell you what God said to me the otherday, "You do your best and Let God do the rest". Preaching never saved anyone. Why do we preach? To awakened the spirit in those that God might save. It is not important whether our ministries are a success or not, we obey God in everything. Good day.
---catherine on 10/22/07

Whisper and Catherine: I bet you 2 are quite the evangelists. Let me pose a question... Have you befriended any of these sinners or apostates? Have you done all you can do that you might save some? If you are not in the habit of doing this, I guess the only thing left to do is turn your nose up. Don't forget Jesus numbered himself among the transgressors. Quit straining at gnats and go help someone. Pharisees.
---j._the_nomad on 10/22/07

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Thank you Whisper. Have a blessed day and a great week ahead.++
---catherine on 10/22/07

Catherine I hear you speak truthfuly, and I have been there, The Bible says that in the last days there will be a great falling away, it speaks of APOSTACY, it is what you see alot of taking place. I have been to churches where the Ministers fleece the sheeps, take their tithes and offerings to line their personal pockets.. husbands, wives that are nothing more than satanic hipocrites sitting in the front pews as the Deacons of the Church, Ravenous wolves, appearing as ANGELS OF LIGHT.
---Whisper on 10/22/07

Emcee, I am speaking about the members in the church that speak lies, and gossip about you, and revile you. They don't like the fact that you sit when you should stand, your clothes are too tight, they judge you for dancing to God, or criticize you speaking in other tongues, or point fingers at an x, drug addict, prostitute, or whatever....else imaginable.
---Whisper on 10/22/07

I will be praying for you Catherine.
---Kella3336 on 10/22/07

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The good does not hurt us.It is the evil.
So therefore what causes one to fall should
be pointed out.This is where one gets critial.But some would not teach this because
they live in fear of losing a member if they
did.But it hurts you more by not being awear...that, is where the damage is hidden.
---Jack on 10/22/07

Whisper :: What is a 'critical spirit'?Do we not go to Church to pay Him,Almighty God, Homage.?
---Emcee on 10/21/07

No. It is just an excuse for them not to go to church. An excuse is a skim off of a lie. People are afraid of the Holy Ghost. Their afraid of what others will think if they see them working for God, or letting God use them in his own way. Some people don't go to church is because they don't want to take time out of their busy lives and give some of it toward God, so they make excuses.
---Rebecca_D on 10/20/07

It is a sad state of affairs when going to church is like going to a free for all, with everything in control but the Holy Spirit. We worship Him and spirit and in truth. If that is not done accordingly,
you can expect and will see more and more churches closing.
---Linn on 10/20/07

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Catherine, I think that most of us have contacts with more unbelievers than we do with believers but if you are TOTALLY surrounded by unbelievers you must be going to the wrong places. The first change that I think you need to make is the church. We need fellowship with other believers and, although you will never find a church FULL of them, you need one where you are not the only one UNLESS GOD HAS PLACED YOU THERE AS A WITNESS TO THEM!!!
---RitaH on 10/20/07

Catherine: If Jesus loved sinners as much as you, we'd all be hell-bound. How would you treat the weeping prostitute? I can't help but think you'd kick her in the head and say "Now where's Peter? I want to be around some saints!" You are ignorant and insensitive. Can you see past the profane tongue of the sinner to a heart unknowingly aching for a savior? Unbelievers act the way they do because THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO! May God bless us with MANY unbelievers. That's the POINT!
---j._the_nomad on 10/19/07

I'm fortunate to have a few churches I can attend that are serious about God and not so serious about clubs. I couldn't imagine going to sit in a pew and listen to some one give a message they don't believe.
Find a church that is seeking to love God and not to worried about what you think about the music the attire the pews.
One that teaches about the love God has for you and the power to live that life.
find a spirit filled church. One where they are not afraid to get on their faces before God.
---Andrea on 10/19/07

Whisper, you have asked a good and important question. It is up to all of us individually to love everyone who shows up, especially our seeming enemies, per Jesus' command to love them.
---InimicusStultitiae on 10/19/07

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I'm not going to parse words, Katherine.
That is not the heart of a prophet.
---Bob on 10/19/07

Cont... on grumbling. We are all at God's mercy. Help us Oh Lord. And I do thank you.++ Please hurry up.
---catherine on 10/19/07

Who is afraid to go to church? I must repeat myself, most in church, church members are not truly saved. I don't understand something here: alittle grumbling from me. I go to church nothing but unbelievers, I go to school nothing but unbelievers, I go shopping more unbelievers. Unbelevers everywhere. I am sick to death of it. All God has put around me is unbelievers, I receive a guest once in a while another unbeliever. [relative] I want God to put some believers in my life.
---catherine on 10/19/07

I did not believe people are turned off by Christianity. I know for a fact that many people are turned off by what the churches teach. Churches are into building funds, making sausage for sale, bigger women's clubs, and a multitude of other things. Churches know nothing of their responsibility of working the great commission. Many of our people have attended churches, but did not find what they were looking for, which was a clear statement of how they can receive salvation.
---Mima on 10/19/07

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Bob: Are you kidding? Look at the TV! Alot of people don't go to Church because they can't tell the difference between the truth and the garbage Benny Hinn teaches. They think all of us are TBN, Pat Robetson, Joel Osteen-types. What you said is only partially true. We shoud be sensitive to the fact that our televangelist brethren, and self-help brethren have really mucked things up for us. The modern church is one big self-help bonanza. It's nauseating.
---j._the_nomad on 10/19/07

You may be right on that point. But let me add this as well. There are many negatives in our churches today and yet the followers are expected to not complain,empty their wallets into the collection plates and pretend nothing is wrong. Don't like that concept.I was turned off to it for a very long time. I do attend church again but I am still not pleased at what I see. I want to obey God but I hate dealing with all the other baggage that goes along with attending church.
---Robyn on 10/19/07

People are afraid of the Holy Spirit, not churches.
People are afraid of the Truth, it's too narrow.
You will find those people attending the one worldly church of man's love. They will not find any conviction of their sin there, nice and lukewarm, mellow and yellow, cowardly.
The conditions will be perfect, all will be heavenbound.
---Bob on 10/19/07

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