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Christian Descernment

Christian Mindreaders:

Does having discernment mean we can read people's minds or hearts?

Have you ever tried to do this in the name of "discernment"?

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 ---j._nonymous on 12/12/07
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jnonymous, In context: "My little children, I write this to you that you all not sin. Though if somebody sin, a Counsellor we have by whom Father, righteous Jesus Christ, and he the appeasement being yours for sin, except not for ours only, but even for all the world." I John 2:1,2.
---Eloy on 12/21/07

jnonymous, "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins. But a fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which will devour the adversaries." Hebrews 10:26,27
---Eloy on 12/20/07

jnonymous, "Know you all not, that to whom you all yield yourselves servants to obey, his slaves you all are to whom you all obey, whether of sin onto death, or of obedience onto righteousness? Either make the tree good, and its fruit good, or make the tree rotten and its fruit rotten: for from the fruit the tree is known. And let every one that names the name of Christ depart from sin." Romans 6:16+ Matthew 12:33+ II Timothy 2:19.
---Eloy on 12/20/07

Eloy: totally out of conext.
The truth: When we sin, we an advocate in Christ Jesus who is quick to forgive us our trespasses when we confess. Period.
If a person really hasn't sinned since 2001, he wouldn't need to broadcast it. So, even if you didn't for all that time, your self-righteous pride proves you wrong here.
BUT... even YOU have an advocate Eloy. Just be honest with the advocate.
---j._nonymous on 12/19/07

.jnonymous, "A good tree cannot bring forward bad fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forward good fruit. Every tree that brings not forward good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire. Whosoever stays in him sins not. He that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that commits sin is of the devil. Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin, for his seed remains in him and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." Matthew 7:18,19+ I John 3:6-9.
---Eloy on 12/18/07

Eloy: what if you sin after getting saved? Does that mean you were never saved in the 1st place? Does being a "true" believer mean we will never sin again? What if we do? And is this what you are claiming to have done? You speak vaguely to avoid this point. I won't mince words. If you say you have not sinned since 2001, you are a liar. I sin every day in some way shape or form whether in mind, heart, or outwardly. That is exactly why Jesus died for me.
---j._nonymous on 12/18/07

j nonymous, Luke 18:9-14 Are Sinners, Not Child of God. The 2 who went up the hill were both sinners, the Minister and the worldly one, neither represents the sanctified born-again child of God. The Minister's sin was he trusted in himself and despised others. The worldly one's sin is self-evident in his name. The reason the worldly one received grace is because he repented, confessed, and asked God for forgiveness, The reason the Minister did not is because he did not repent nor ask God for forgiveness
---Eloy on 12/17/07

.j nonymous, my answer, no matter how many times you ask it and refuse to believe it, will always be the same.
---Eloy on 12/17/07

The heart and the mind is a material
concept it have no spiritual funtion.
It is a part of our Terrestrial body, flesh and matter.In order to discern, you have to know about our spiritual existence within
our terrestrial bodies.PSYCHICS HAVE
NEGATIVE POWERS FROM A NEGATIVE SOURCE,it is not from God.To know the image of God
from the image of Satan is to discern between the two in a spiritual interpretation.Keep in touch.
I am jack8773 ,and i speak for the Almighty
---Jack_8773 on 12/17/07

Eloy: the "we" I speak of is anyone with at least half a brain. This "we" also includes people who DON'T try to seem ultra-spiritual by always speaking in King James English. Example: "I have no concern whether you trust or trust not". Also, I'm pretty sure we live in the same city. Not many people who have the name Eloy, AND claim to be sinless since 2001. Remember the tax-collector praying next to the Pharisee? Whose prayer was more righteous? Why?
---j._nonymous on 12/17/07

Eloy: Did you? Or didn't you?
---j._nonymous on 12/17/07

You can't read peoples minds or heart.After you have been filled with the Holy Spirit God in HIS wisdom gives you the gifts HE knows you can handle.You don't say when it operates God does.Whatever gift you have need of will work.Sometimes i can speak to a person or just walk by them and know if they are Christian or not and it's not the way they are dressed.If I need to stay away from someone I just know it.If they need prayer for deliverence God lets me know.HE not I.
---shirley on 12/16/07

.j nonymous, whom is the "we" you speak of? Also I have no concern whether "you" trust or trust not.
---Eloy on 12/15/07

Discernment means to know what is evil from what is good.What is God's, and what is Satans ways of living.Discernment tells
us if what we say or do is either right or wrong in the sight of GOD.Satan have ways of telling your future and knowing how we think.That is why He have so much control
over ones intellect.There are things in your life that will be known to you that you don't know about now.
---Jack_8773 on 12/14/07

Good Job Whisper!
We have POWER over the powers of Principalities & Darkness!
God Say's so, So it is!
---Duane_m on 12/14/07

Tiger Woods is probably giving them some great golfing tips and they're helping him with his funds.
But you know what, now that their names are in the CN search engine, maybe they'll drop by someday, unannounced.
We can give them some Christian company and they can think it over. Let's all be on our best behavior that day, okey dokey?
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07

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Alan Greenspan is somewhere trying to keep the country from heading into a tailspin of recession. Even if he's retired, a brilliant mind like that doesn't rest.
Bill Gates, the computer brain, inventor of these handy dandy blogging machines is busy diversifying his portfolio. He's probably having lunch with Warren Buffett and Tiger Woods.
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07

They should take the time, loverable. It is in one word, Fun. I wonder what those people are doing?
---catherine on 12/14/07

Anybody out there who's not lonely but still likes to do this?

I like it cause its fun and challenging... AND I work 2nd shift. Gotta go!
---j._nonymous on 12/14/07

Do you think Alan Greenspan or Bill Gates has the time to blog everyday?
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07

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I'm not sure we can trust a guy who says he hasn't sinned since 2001.
---j._nonymous on 12/14/07

When you let it all hang out in great detail, year after year - the rest of us can see it...regardless if it's only role playing or with a pinch of truth thrown in, here and there. I know that you find yourself overly intelligent, but I find you to be lonesome and sad. Very sad.

Let's be honest, the diehards that come here day after day are lonesome to some degree. There's nothing wrong with Christian company, but why the need for role playing, then getting mad when the rest of us can see you.
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07

I'm not reading any minds.
It's conditioning and commonsense. Names change but the situations at home do not.

The bottom line, if you're here every day until the lights are shut off, don't tell us how super intelligent and brilliant you are.
Why not be honest and tell the truth, you're addicted to blogging like the rest of us.
You enjoy the company and you might be very, very lonesome.
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07

HA, HA, HA, No J. Nonamous, I do not take Visa, but I will take the "Heavenly Express"!

Good One.
---Whisper on 12/14/07

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I did not reallize that I have this gift, it was my pastors wife who told me that this is what I have, Not always are things revealed to me, but you would be SHOCKED at what HAS BEEN REVEALED behind lock and key! The most secret and private matters have been shown me, as NOTHING IS HIDDEN FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND HE RESIDES WITH US IF WE ASK, I am not the only one but many in my circles were revealed the same things like parts of a puzzle, to bring confirmation and EXPOSURE.
---Whisper on 12/14/07

Well now, I must defend Whisper. Everything he said was true.
---catherine on 12/14/07

Whisper: This sounds alot like Benny Hinn. Is that you Benny?

We do not, and should not know everything. That would make us God.

1 Corinthians 13:12

"For now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face: now I know in part, but then shall I know even as also I am known".
---j._nonymous on 12/14/07

Many people and spirits wear guises, facades or fronts. And when a person is given the gift of discernment they are shown the truth behind the guise. I once recalled talking with an old employer, and during our talk his face was superimposed with another face of a demon, back-and-forth: his face, then the demon's face, his face, then the demon, continually as we talked, but I'm sure that he was not aware of this as we talked. I later learned that this is what is called the gift of discernment.
---Eloy on 12/14/07

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kady: great answer.
---j._nonymous on 12/13/07

This may come as a shock to you, but as Christians, we are operating way below what is expected, if we do not operate in the gift of discernment, not only that, we should practically know just about everything, as if we were a shadow, so that NOTHING, is done in secret, A CHRISTIAN IS ONE WHO SHOULD OPERATE IN HUGE HIGH POWERS, SO MYSTIFYING IN POWER AND AUTHORITY, THAT NO DEMONIC SPIRIT SHOULD BE HIDDEN TO OUR SPIRITUAL EYES, it is time that Christians wake up!!! to what is RIGHTFULY theirs.
---Whisper on 12/13/07

This doesn't sound quite right to me. It sounds like witchcraft done in the name of spiritual gifting. I'd be wary of it. Discernment would be more along the lines of God opening your eyes to a situation or something the person is dealing with (such as lust) in order to intercede for that person, as well as guarding your heart and mind.
---kady on 12/13/07

Catherine ... "Discernment is being able with the help of God to know whether a person is of God or whether the person is of the devil"
They even make those judgments here.
---alan_of_UK on 12/13/07

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Whisper: How about NO mindreaders? Unless it's you of course. By the way, do you take VISA?
---j._nonymous on 12/13/07

Discernment is being able with the help of God to know whether a person is of God or whether the person is of the devil. No person can read anothers mind. God can. God does not give that ability to any of His creative beings. Righteous judging we can do. Means does God live inside of a person's heart. Makes His home there. Righteous judging.
---catherine on 12/13/07

HA, HA, HA, HA!! Would you rather have UN-CHRISTIAN...MINDREADERS? What a load of....FLUFF.
---Whisper on 12/13/07

Having the gift of discernment also helps me to recognize a false prophet. Often times, a preacher will come into a church and "read people" rather than actually operate in the Holy Spirit. Some are very good at this and can fool a lot of people. The worst ones are those who have a person sit in a chair and say they have one leg shorter than the other and the preacher will "miraculously" pull the short leg to be even with the long one. False prophets!!!!
---Susie on 12/12/07

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It does not mean mind-reading, and wwe should not attempt this.
Nor does it mean heart-reading, which as is demonstrated so often here is not discernment at all but just judging someone else to be not saved, because their views on some detail of theology differ from one's own.
---alan_of_UK on 12/12/07

If there are so-called Christian mindreaders they are not of God.
Spiritual discernment is a gift of God and reveals what manner scriptures are used like Job who spake right and his "comforters" that spoke scripture amiss.
It also reveals the spirit of man, thoughts of envious hearts, jealousy and the evil spirits of the devil to name a few.
Anyone can quote scripture.
Discernment reveals what spirit brings it forth.
---Frank on 12/12/07

Having the Gift of Discerning of spirits allows us to discern an evil spirit operating in a person for the purpose of prayer and fasting for them to be delivered from it, or to bind that evil spirit. We can also discern the Holy Spirit in people and if he's operating in their lives. You shall know them by their fruit. It's easy to discern love, peace, joy, etc, coming from a person. I have never been able to read a person's mind, but can tell what's inside their heart by what comes out of their mouth.
---Donna on 12/12/07

part 1 - discernment is being able to chose an answer to an issue. nobody else has to make that decision but the person himself or herself. We are not robots with a program, but given the power to choose.
---allen on 12/12/07

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My experience with discernment has never been self-directed. In fact discernment, always comes in an unexpected moment. However I am never in doubt as the source of the discernment.
---Mima on 12/12/07

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