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Should Christians Think

Should we think? Is thinking bad? If we think should we use reason? Or should we just believe? Is unthoughtout belief without reason the answer?

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No person of character can simply stop questioning because it makes her uncomfortable. Faith is not gulability. Faith is not stupidity. Faith is not blindness or being naive. Faith is based on truth and reasonable hope and is unafraid of the light (truth, facts, reason). Faith does not lead to fear or fanaticism. Faith brings hope and peace. It inspires us to action and helps make us a better and more complete person. Faith motivates us to further refine our faith.
---sophia on 1/23/08

Ktisphilos, Calling me,"Matthew the Misotheist"---god hater, does not make it true. Nor does sticking "indeed" in front of "one can assigm the atrocities of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot to the atheistic evolution that underlined their system." Bad people killed and tortured people because they were bad, not because they were atheists. Unless you prefer to assign the atrocities committed in the name of god, such as the Inquisition, to theism, don't blame atheism for the rest.
---matthew on 1/22/08

Matthew the Misotheist: indeed one can assigm the atrocities of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot to the atheistic evolution that underlined their system. Hitler was no Catholic, but one who despised the Church and intended to exterminate Christianity. This was proven at the Nuremberg Trials.
---Ktisophilos on 1/21/08

In reality, slavery was worldwide. It is not surprising that some churchians twisted the Bible to support the status quo, just as they do to support goo-to-you evolution and millions of years. But slavery was *challenged* only in biblical Christianity, and not only by Wilberforce. Contrast that with Aristotle who believed that there were natural slaves, and anti-Christian Endarkenment philosophers such as Hume and Voltaire believed in the inferiority of dark-skinned people.
---Ktisophilos on 1/15/08


You can not asssign the atrocities of Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao to atheism any more than you can those of Hitler to Catholicism, or men with funny mustaches, or just men. I mean can you name some women who sometime in history presided over such things? Maybe men of any faith are the problem.

There is no cause and effect here.
---matthew on 1/15/08

Yes, you're right, blind faith is not good 100% of the time, but when I read something I can not understand in my Bible, shouldn't I choose to just have faith thats it's true, because some things in the Bible are really hard to believe.
---sue on 1/14/08

In reality, protestant Christians, in America were pro and anti slavery. The theology which supported both seemed to depend on who paid the clergyman. Southern preachers, who were paid by plantation owners were guided to see slavery biblically acceptable. Northern liberal clargy, paid by sometimes radical abolutionist saw slavery as unbiblical. (Liberal did not mean then what it is now-)
---MikeM on 1/14/08

Matthew, blind faith in atheism is a catastrophic thing. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were examples of those with such a blind faith, and the atrocities committed by holders of the atheistic faith dwarf the atrocities of professing Christians.

Slavery was ubiquitous, it was only evangelical Christians who led the charge to abolish it, e.g. William Wilberforce.
---Ktisophilos on 1/13/08

Of course Christians should think. How else can we follow Jesus' first commandment: love the lord our God with all your ... MIND.

How can we follow the chief apostle Peter, to be ready to give an answer (Gk. apologia) to anyone who asks for a reason for the hope we have (1 Peter 3:15)?
---Ktisophilos on 1/13/08

If you do not think and act would this not be foolish? God gives us wisdom and we must think to utilize this gift. Sometimes we can make the wrong decision by not thinking and allowing ourselves to hear God before we act.
---rraea8898 on 1/12/08

There is no such thing as 'blind faith'.

Even the Old Testiment teaches, "in all your getting, get understanding".

One cannot truly believe unless it becomes a revelation to you.

To say I walk blindly in this world is to say you live in darkness. Jesus is the LIGHT that leads us and guides us by the Holy Spirit and being led always has direction and purpose.

What you lack is faith.

You don't need to see, you need to understand.
---Ardith_Kay_Tolson on 1/11/08

Mike you accuse someone "You've spent years and years trying to find comfort from 85 word replies"
Not years and years, Mike.
It was not years ago when the limit was reduced from 100 to 85.
Don't you remember?
---alan_of_UK on 1/11/08


Blind faith has its purpose. Children have blind faith in what their parents tell them, which tends to keep them out of trouble and in many cases alive. But as adults, blind faith can get us into a lot of trouble. Obviously, blind faith in our political leaders can get us into wars and as a nation doing some things that are not, particularly in the perspective of history, moral.
---matthew on 1/11/08


Christian nations, have used their blind faith sometimes to justify wars or denigrate the value of the lives of the non-believers they war against.

Slavery was justified with Biblical reference.

Muslim children, with no choice into want religion they are born into and indoctrinate in may, if their parents are extremist become suicide bombers. A small sect of Jews in Isreal plotted to bomb a Muslim school based on their blind faith.

Blind faith is a dangerous thing.
---matthew on 1/11/08

I think the "knowledge" of the tree was the ability to decide what was good and evil. God wanted them to be obedient and not try to figure things out there way. Remember the devil tempts Eve by saying that they would be like God... It's the sin of pride and still very much with us.
---janet on 1/11/08

Wasn't the tree in the Garden of Eden a tree of knowledge? Why didn't God want Adam and Eve to have knowledge? What kind of knowledge was God not wanting them to have? Plus, true faith is believeing in something without even thinking about it at all. Blind faith, like a little kid. thankyou,sue
---sue on 1/10/08

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The "Wise" in Dan. 12 will understand the prophecy(s) and the bondservants in Rev.1:1-3 will understand all of Revelation. "Wisdom" is another name for the Holy Spirit and we are told She will give us ALL truth. The TEST for truth is if 'it' agrees with the Testimony of Jesus given by His eyewitnesses (Jn. 14:26)
---Dr._Rich on 1/10/08

Faith are reason go hand in hand and are not in opposition to eachother. In the same way, faith and science are not in conflict with one another either. That is a common myth among unbelievers that our belief in God is not based on reason and goes against scientific thought.
---janet on 1/10/08

You've spent years and years trying to find comfort from 85 word replies. Most of that comfort, you find in your own answers back to yourself.
I'm no longer addressing the pseudo/alternative gender/age names, Linda.
I have developed an immunity to the fiction.

If you don't find the help that you really need this year, you'll be one year older when you do.
---Mike on 1/10/08

Thanks to all for your many replies. My intention in this question was to generate some thought about thinking, reason and belief, which on these blogs seem sometime to be enemies. Pharisee has noted that faith and rational thought can be traveling partners, and others affirming thinking is good. This is the discussion I wanted to generate. Please scroll down to other entries of mine I made yesterday. Thanks for the interest, and please say more.
---matthew on 1/10/08

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sue: God gives brains to humans for a reason. There is no such thing as thinking too much about the Bible. You may doubt at times but if you hold fast to Christ and admit your inability to understand everything, it takes the pressure off a bit. Please don't stop thinking. There are too many unthinking Christians in the world now. Instead, "come let us reason"... It does not take a great deal of sense to be part of the Kingdom, but God does want us to use what sense we have.
---j._nonymous on 1/10/08

We should just have faith because if we thought about what it says in the Bible for too long, it would all seem so unbelieveable, like a great made up story or myth or a fairy tale. For me anyway. So I just believe without thinking about it.
---sue on 1/10/08

Jennifer, May God bless you I love YOU.
---catherine on 1/10/08

Mike ... You seem to object to anyone who asks for help here.
But that is aprtly why this site is here.
It is not just a theological battleground which so many try to make it.
It is a ministry, with all that involves. And you should try to be part of that ministry.
---alan_of_UK on 1/10/08

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the law of atrophy is, If you don't use it, you lose it.
---Eloy on 1/10/08

Thank God for Christian thinkers.
---j._nonymous on 1/9/08

Ouch! Christians have a bad enough reputation for being mindless sheep without asking if we should stop thinking!

God gave us brains capable of thinging logically. It'd be an insult to Him if we didn't.

So think already!
---Nancy on 1/9/08

Paul wants us just to have "faith". But "faith" allowes one to believe in a lie without feeling guilty about searching for and knowing the truth. Jesus attempted to get people to 'see' the truth, but they refused by keeping their eyes wide shut. And we know where all the people go who believe or practice a lie. (Rev. 21:8 and 22:15) So, my answer is YES, thinking and searching for truth does matter.
---Dr._Rich on 1/9/08

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Bible says "come let us reason" and we are cautioned to be smart as a fox and harmless as a dove. There is never any indication that we should not " think". We are admonished to covet wisdom from above and that requires diligence in seeking truth and sorting out realities of life. Trust required for faith in God is a separate issue which does not require stupidity. Remember that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Makes ya think:)
---jody on 1/9/08

Thinking is good. The Bible talks a lot about wisdom, knowledge, understanding, decernment, revelation, etc. - all have to do with thoughts. The Bible says that we are to develop the mind of Christ, and let the Holy Spirit teach us - this is Godly wisdom, which has to do with thinking.
---Leslie on 1/9/08

I THINK (((o: you are right to question unquestioning belief, such as blind faith I had in my sort of Catholicism. "Test all things, hold fast what is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21) We are not to blindly trust, but test. Now, how to test would be an interesting discussion (o: Do we use human reason, or can we reliably make sure with God about things? And will You help us about "all things", or just with certain things "more important"?
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/9/08

I THINK that if you've ever been in a successful relationship with someone, you found out with each other your unique way of thinking and communicating together to decide what you both wanted and understood about different things. No one else could tell you two how to figure things out together, because your relationship was unique. Like this, I THINK we each need to discover our own unique relationship with God and how You have each of us communicating and deciding things with You (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/9/08

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How much is it wise to trust our own ability to think...considering how often we believe the weather report and how often what we believe turns out to be true...what's your batting average for believing the weather report only when it's correct (o: Isn't it more reliable to trust God to guide us according to all
**He*** has for "intel info" ((o:

"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body, and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15)
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/9/08

1) Yes, you should think.
2) There is nothing wrong with thinking.
3) If your mind is renewed, then justification (reason) is how your mind will register.
4) Yes, you should always believe.
5) Anything that is without justification is not the answer.
---Shawn.M.T on 1/9/08

well because of Christ we are forgiven, the tree of knowledge that eve plucked from was actually consciousness, and if you really read Genesis, the Lord turns and says, now they know what we know, not I, but we..he meant the angels, but at first we were not meant to know
---dawn on 1/9/08

Matthew it seems that you are saying faith and rational thought can't be traveling partners.

I insist you can't have one without the other, we have a true faith and not a blind one, and a man with blind faith could never give good intelligent well thought out reasons for his faith.

Peter5544 is my pen pal address, you may be lacking one small piece of knowledge or have received a false gospel let's chat, Love,
---Pharisee on 1/9/08

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Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.Phillipians 4:8 (KJV)Bible
---yochanon on 1/9/08

Thank you for your concern. I'm afraid you have assigned some distraught mental condition as cause for my question. I asked this question because in so many blogs I and others are accused of thinking too much and not believing enough. (The assumption is that the right thing to believe is obvious, although, it seems unlikely that any 10 bloggers could agree on any 5 subjects.) Further the application of reason to any conclusion that some believe without question seems to some a questioning of God.
---matthew on 1/9/08

Thank you for your concern. I'm afraid you have assigned some distraught mental condition as cause for my question. I asked this question because in so many blogs I and others are accused of thinking too much and not believing enough. (The assumption is that the right thing to believe is obvious, although, it seems unlikely that any 10 bloggers could agree on any 5 subjects.) Further the application of reason to any conclusion that some believe without question seems to some a questioning of God.
---matthew on 1/9/08

No I am not suffering from manic depression, needing Prozac, nor demon infestation, needing fasting and prayer, nor even devil possesion needing an exorcism. My question lies more along the lines that, if you do believe in demons, should it a matter of faith because the Bible tells us so, or does thinking and reason, to me the most important of God's gifts, somehow work it way into how we should make our conclusions.
---matthew on 1/9/08

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God bless you all Jesus Christ loves you all, in the Word of God it says it clearly in the Book of Colosenses chapter 3 verse 2 "Set your minds of things Above and not on the things of the world".
---Jennifer on 1/9/08

Asking this question reveals that you need a different kind of help from what 85 word blog replies can ever give you.
You're asking too much from other people on a daily basis. It's not our job to continually bolster your confidence, your mind or give you the kind of attention that you really need.
---Mike on 1/9/08

A good place to start would be to start telling the truth in all ways, each and every day - to yourself and others.
Being honest is a big step to recovery for a mind that doesn't want to think or one that races with anxiety.
---Mike on 1/9/08

Many people suffering with depression quit thinking and that is for survival. They completely shut down the thinking process but can still respond to blogs or write, etc. because blogging/computer is an impersonal process/object.
That's not really faith or belief but the survival mode of depression.
---Mike on 1/9/08

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Strange enough, depression can also create anxiety - with a mind that reasons and races at breakneck speed. The racing reasoning will not shut off.
Both are extremes, and can be caused by depression. Severe depression.
Medication will shut off anxiety and the wrong meds will leave you a flatliner, with lack of affect. Dulled out, no thinking, zip.
---Mike on 1/9/08

If you are suffering with depression, these blogs may be a temporary therapy, but when the Mod shuts them down for the day - you're left with yourself. If you're mind is returning to flatliner or racing mode, you really should see your doctor.
---Mike on 1/9/08

The first Great Commandment calls for loving God with all our faculties, including our minds.

I don't think anything rescinded this.

There was also a poet who opined that there was more faith in honest doubt than in half the creeds.
---Jack on 1/9/08

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