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Is it OK for a single (unmarried) Christian man to be business partners with a married Christian woman, spending many hours alone, even if the single man has known both the husband and wife for many, many years and the wife is his best friend? What do does the Bible say about this?

Moderator - Potentially dangerous ground.

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Thank you Mark V. I appreciate your discernment too and please pray for my friends, for God's protection over both of them and all parties in their lives. May God's perfect will be done in all matters and may they be blessed for their obedience. :-)
---Holly4jc on 1/21/08

Sister Holly, I believe you are very well informed. I have read your explanations. What you said is very true. While some might try to knock you for bringing this up concerning someone else, you have done it with a good spirit. You have great discernment. Your insight into the whole matter is just like mine. Many great men and women have failed. Enough warnings are given about Satan in Scripture to where we should be more then well inform how to conduct our lives. We need more like you.
---Mark_V. on 1/19/08

Lynda ... You are becomintg even more interesting. You ask
"Remember Paul Revere?" ... I for one hve never heard of him, and would like to know more
"He had it at Hello" ... Had what, and where? Is Hello a place?
---alan_of_UK on 1/18/08

Hi, Lynda/Mark
Pot calls kettle black
---sleuth on 1/18/08

Susie, that doesn't make any sense to me.

Alan and Susie, please email one another and explain everything to each other.
---Mark on 1/18/08

Alan, your concentration is far too over the mountain top. Please email some of the men here for all concerns and communication.
---Lynda on 1/18/08

Alan of Uk:: Computers are machines the use of the word & its implication & culture that is sometimes different giving rise to misunderstanding. English is a universal language & its usage varies.Hello by itself is a greeting but used with an intonation means different like" what are you saying"
---Emcee on 1/18/08

What I find really, really, really absurd is when a person gets upset when another person whose name just happens to be the same as that persons uses THEIR OWN name to post a comment. I learned when I was a little girl that I was not the only person in the world named Susie. But, there are some people who think the world is all about them!!!!
---Susie on 1/17/08

Remember Paul Revere?
He had it at Hello.

On the evening of April 18, 1775, Paul Revere was instructed to ride to Lexington, Massachusetts, to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them..

Two lanterns had been hung in the bell-tower of Christ Church in Boston, indicating that troops would row "by sea" , rather than marching "by land".
---lovable_linda on 1/16/08

On the way to Lexington, Revere "alarmed" the country-side, stopping at each house, and arrived in Lexington about midnight. As he approached the house where Adams and Hancock were staying, a sentry asked that he not make so much noise. "Noise!" cried Revere, "You'll have noise enough before long. The regulars are coming out!"

---lovable_linda on 1/16/08

Emcee ... maybe my computer is different, but I can't see the Moderator ever said "Hello"
The word was used by the person who is still accusing others of multiple personalities, without giving any evidence.
---alan_of_UK on 1/16/08

It appears to be a case of Mistaken Identity, as the question was a third party question.The Moderators "Hello" interjected was appropriate & not addressed to the person relating the incident or asking the question.IMHO Hello could mean "wake up" or "you know what is right"or as I said "dont play with Fire"The question is full of conjecture.
---Emcee on 1/16/08

Backpedaling, spin, damage control will not be required if you heed the Moderator's warning. Potentially dangerous ground.

That dangerous ground will not rise up to meet you if you heed it.
---lovable_linda on 1/16/08

Holly, I know it's not a Holly.

I know the name and I know the initials and I know the person(s), not by over the top and beyond details, and/or accountability personality partners.

I know by the Holy Spirit, not Holly.
---lovable_linda on 1/16/08

The Holy Spirit prevents me from giving you those initials and names, because that is not wisdom.
The Holy Spirit prevents me from letting it all hang out on the internet because it lacks character, wisdom and it is not sound.
You had the Moderator at Hello.
---lovable_linda on 1/16/08

Alan, having just read over the last few posts I am still mystified as to the meaning of 'Moderator knew it at Hello'. Even after reading the possible explanation of what it might mean I am still no wiser. Our 'so-called' common language (either side of the 'pond') is not always that common is it?
---RitaH on 1/16/08

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Alan of UK...I believe what Lovable Linda is implying by her phrase that the Moderater knew it at "hello" is that she is implying that she believes that the moderator discerned that the "woman" I was inquiring of was really me. But...that is not the case and I do not see the moderator's comment implying any such thing. But for some reason, Linda thinks I am the woman in the question asked. Silly because I am single and don't even date. God bless :-)
---Holly4jc on 1/16/08

You are asking for trouble. There is nothing wrong with having a female business partner but spending time alone with her is not advised or wise. Couldn't you make the husband an advisor? If you have to spend time alone have someone be accountable for your time. For example: call you on the phone every 30 minutes. (Have done this myself so know it works.) Even if everything is on the up and up, you would be planting seeds for gossip and this could ruin any positive testimony either of you may have.
---wivv on 1/15/08

Lovable Linda ... You will probably say that I am just trying to show that I am not American, but honestly, really honestly, what does your phrase "Moderator knew it at Hello" mean?
And also "you had the Moderator at Hello" puzzles me.
Perhaps RitaH who is in the UK also, or Emcee, has heard the term and could enlighten me, if you don't want to accept that I do not know the expression.
---alan_of_UK on 1/15/08

Amen Emcee...for once I totally agree with you! This is a very special day indeed! God Bless! :-)
---Holly4jc on 1/15/08

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Holly, tell the married woman that letting it all hang out over the internet can be pulled up in divorce proceedings, etc.
Tell her it that though she considers herself as wise as king Solomon, in the end it was his lack of character was his downfall. His kingdom was given away and Jezebel's was thrown to the dogs.
---lovable_linda on 1/15/08

Holly "Well, if people all over are accusing you of being more than partners and you have to keep explaining differently and they still don't believe you, then I think you have stepped over the line and are giving the appearance of evil"
No ... it just shows what dirty mid the others have.
In the same way that so many here make snap judgments about other people
---alan_of_UK on 1/15/08

Holly, tell the married woman that Christians who know the Holy Spirit is God, names are often dropped into their spirit, for the purpose of prayer. And Holly, I know that name and what it rhymes with.

Moderator knew it at Hello, it is dangerous ground.
---lovable_linda on 1/15/08

Simple Rule of thumb:- Do not play with Fire & you wont get burned.!
---Emcee on 1/15/08

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Holly, you had the Moderator at Hello.

More details are more, but not always better.
Tell the married woman that revealing too much is not only not necessary, it's on permanent record. Nothing is ever erased on your computer unless you plan to roast it.
---lovable_linda on 1/15/08

Susie...I have not said who these people are, their names or what church they are from. I have not revealed anything other than a situation that I wanted to get feedback on, since I was asked by one of the parties about it and I wanted to see what others would do based on biblical principles. There is nothing wrong with that.
---Holly4jc on 1/15/08

Amen Lovable Linda...the moderator is correct and I agree totally with the moderator. That is exactly what I thought from the beginning. Thanks for all your input everyone! I appreciate it. I will just continue to pray for them and ask God to bring HIS order into the situation. God bless!
---Holly4jc on 1/15/08

Holly...I guarantee I would never ask you to pray for me again if you told everyone about my prayer request like you are telling us about these "friends' of yours.
---Susie on 1/14/08

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Desert Rose, turn back to your husband, the grass is not greener in the desert regions.
It's a spiritual drought out there.
As soon as you hooked up with the keen, sharp business partner, you'd be sick of him in no time. It is a mirage in the desert.
---Philip on 1/14/08

Mike stated: Why would a married woman be waiting for her mate? Do you mean an alternative backup plan?

Mike...I think you the posts again...I am the one waiting on a mate and I AM NOT married. Haven't been for 17 1/2 years! The married woman (and that's not me!) is married!!! She's a totally different person...not me!
---Holly4jc on 1/14/08

I forgot to mention that when this business partnership was being formed, the married woman was telling me about all the plans that she and the single man had made and voiced a strong concern about NOT giving the appearance of evil, because she knew that could easily happen. Well, if people all over are accusing you of being more than partners and you have to keep explaining differently and they still don't believe you, then I think you have stepped over the line and are giving the appearance of evil.
---Holly4jc on 1/14/08

The bible is very, very clear about this potential affair.

It says that you cannot love two masters, you will hate the one and love the other.

Torn between two lovers, total myth.

It's not speculation. You know what they say, when you're over the target that's when you encounter the greatest amount of backpedaling.
---Fill_up_No_more on 1/14/08

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Holly provided enough information within the question that the Moderator immediately knew the answer.
Experience and wisdom from the Holy Spirit allows you to be in season and ready with an answer.
---lovable_linda on 1/14/08

Potentially dangerous ground.

Tell married woman that if she's going to continue asking the questions, she must be ready for the answers. If she doesn't like the answers, she can reword the questions a 1000X and the Holy Spirit will confirm the answer, over and over and over.
---lovable_linda on 1/14/08

The Bible does not address your specific case. All other is speculation as very little info is provided. Stay in the arms of Christ.
---dan on 1/14/08

"So, sexual fidelity, I'd say, is the most **superficial** part of marital faithfulness and fulfillment."

I must ask, have you lost your conscience?
Do you know right from wrong?
---Mark on 1/14/08

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Tell the married woman, that it is this slippery slope that is moving her closer to the final chapter.
These behaviors do not come on overnight.
They are learned, adopted, perfected and for some, strengthened by an evil spirit, not the Holy Spirit.
---lovable_linda on 1/14/08

Tell the married woman that the devil is a driver. His aim is to drive you right into the ground, forever. He's always roaring, seeking whom he may devour.
Remind the married woman of fallen pastors laying along the roadside. Teds, the Jims, and woman pastors that have recently fallen.
---lovable_linda on 1/14/08

Tell the married woman that everything she and her husband have worked for will go to the dogs.
Remind her of what happened to Jezebel in the bible.
This behavior, victims becoming the predator is a cycle caused from abuse.

Remind her that the bible says to avoid even the appearance of evil. It has the appearance of evil, and where there's smoke, there's fire.
---lovable_linda on 1/14/08

1) Lovable hit the nail on the head. There is definitely a Jezebel spirit at work here. The married woman even told the unmarried male business partner that he should not even think of getting married for at least 2 years in order to concentrate on their business. Can we spell CONTROL?? And the reason I know so much and God has spoken to me about all this is because these people are friends from church and since the beginning of their partnership,
---Holly4jc on 1/14/08

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2) they have invited me to pray for their business. When you pray, God reveals. God HAS been speaking to them all along, each and every time that someone says to them that there is alot more going on between them than a business partnership, God is using the mouths of others to speak. God speaks to us in many ways, even using the unsaved to do so. We are to avoid the appearance of evil and be a holy witness unto Jesus.
---Holly4jc on 1/14/08

Holly ... something is strange about the whole of the relationships in this case, because you yourself seem to be unhealthily informed, interested and involved in the situation, and for some reason you refuse to beleive what they say about their relationship.
How do you know that God told you their relationship was wrong? How did you receive this revelation?
---alan_of_UK on 1/13/08

Lady Bug, Lady Bug, fly away home
Your marriage is a disaster
But you're always on
the phone

You've told the entire world
That your husband is a bore
It was a match made in heaven
But your mind has shut the door

Lady Bug, Lady Bug, fly away home
Put back the latchkey on your heart
Your children are home
---Fill_up_No_more on 1/12/08

If you're sharing an office, ok.
If you're sharing a bed, no.

If you have to go on a business trip together, either invite the husband, or stay at separate hotels (or at least on separate floors).

Remember, keep your business life separate from your social life. And when it becomes the latter, ALWAYS invite the husband along with. (Unless it's just a cup of coffee at Starbucks. No need to get ridiculous about the matter, LOL.)
---Nancy on 1/12/08

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It is not a proper relationship.

If your husband should be going on a long trip, leaving you for any length of time, I think you will be in danger of destroying your marriage, and I think you already know that. Secretly, I don't think you care too much about your husband anyway.
---Cindy on 1/11/08

Holly...My husband and I have such a friend. We advised him as to how he could improve himself since he was very backwards and shy. He is like a member of our family like one of our kids although he is three years younger than me. He has no living parents or siblings. Two years ago he married a Christian woman who at 48 had saved herself for marriage. I would have no problem working with this man in a business without fear of any sinful thoughts. I would trust him more than some of my women friends.
---Susie on 1/11/08

4) ...not with a ladies' group or "best friend". So, sexual fidelity, I'd say, is the most **superficial** part of marital faithfulness and fulfillment.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/11/08"

What is a Billbila doing in a ladies group?
I forgot, you are a woman, ooopsie daisy.
BTW, Bill, I have noticed the hidden code you are using. earl used to to that or was it jhonny. Either way, one of you always likes to do that.
---Mark on 1/11/08

Thanks for the clarification. The situation is not at all as I believed it to be. Please ignore my response below, it obviously does not fit the situation at all.
---RitaH on 1/11/08

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Why would a married woman be waiting for her mate? Do you mean an alternative backup plan?

I have developed an immunity for fictitious details. Do you not know that trademarks of compulsive lying are details, details, details. Even a small child of 6 or 7 can understand the difference between truth and fiction.
---Mike on 1/11/08

Victims becoming predators.
A spirit of Jezebel enjoys the process which always leads to treachery.
"lording it over his head".
Do you know what, this is a spirit of Jezebel.
A spirit of Jezebel enjoys that element of control, especially over a weak man.
Jezebel attracts the weaker vessel. Men or women can have a spirit of Jezebel. Regardless, they become a predator, preying on weaker victims, vessels.
They destroy ministries, pastors and their prey.
---lovable_linda on 1/11/08

A Jezebel spirit is always looking for the next conquest. She leaves a trail of destruction wherever she goes.
The weaker vessel/mate often knows that they are controlled by Jezebel but are in such a weakened condition, are left helpless or too tired to deal with it anymore. They start turning a blind eye, and look away, ignoring Jezebel as she exploits others for her own selfish and narcissistic purposes.
---lovable_linda on 1/11/08

The not a male but a female and a single female indeed...celibate for almost 12 years and waiting on the Lord for my mate! This is about some friends of mine from church...not me!!!! I do not even date! Thanks to all who are responding, I appreciate the input. :-)
---Holly4jc on 1/11/08

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1) Yes Bill...their relationship is such that they do share all personal info with each other and the married woman counsels the single guy and the single guy even feels he has to get HER approval regarding the person he would want to marry. It is as if she lords over him and he needs her approval in all things. To me, this is not Godly or healthy. You are right Bill...he needs to get his own wife and stop depending on her as if she was his wife.
---Holly4jc on 1/11/08

2) It's as if they are married without the physical intimacy and her husband seems alright with it. All 3 of them joke around that SHE has 2 husbands. Something is not Godly about that!
---Holly4jc on 1/11/08

(4) I'm finding that the most perfect fulfillment of Christian marriage is in sweetly and sensitively sharing our most personal things with each other...not with a ladies' group or "best friend". So, sexual fidelity, I'd say, is the most **superficial** part of marital faithfulness and fulfillment.

If he's using someone else's wife for the fulfillment of sharing his personal things, then, I'd say his **sister** needs to send him to find his own Jesus lady for this (((o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/11/08

(2) Whoever the wife is, don't you need to take this to your husband? Is he Christian? If he is, he is your "head" (Ephesians 5:23), plus Paul says, to wives, "if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home" (in 1 Corinthians 14:35).

If you don't use a muscle, it will atrophy > I'm NOT saying he's a musclehead, but you need to take things personal to hubby so he won't atrophy in his ability to share and handle personal things with you.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/11/08

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Everyone answering so far seems to think that the questioner is almost asking permission to start an affair. All I get from this question is that he is wondering if others will get the wrong idea - and I guess that, if these answers are anything to go by, those who actually know the people concerned might also think that way. It depends how well these 3 people are known and what sort of minds their friends and associates have I guess.
---RitaH on 1/11/08

(3) A sister can be the business partner of her brother, I understand. Holly, are you the wife? Is your partner your Christ? If you pride yourselves in being faithful, you can tell how you really are doing.

I offer > I have found I can have a perfectly beautiful relationship with ANY really Christian sister. So, even if he does like you a lot...what else would be expected? AND his **sister** can tell him he can have at least as good with any other lady of Jesus (((o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/11/08

1) Hi all...thanks for your comments so far. This situation is not about me!! It is about 2 friends I know from church. They joined together in a partnership in real estate a year ago...he is unmarried, she is married...but he is friends with both her and her husband, although SHE is his best friend. They claim they think of each other as brother and sister and that the Lord said it was ok to be partners and her husband is also ok with it. They are in business now and have many big plans for...
---Holly4jc on 1/11/08

2) ...future business endeavors together. Recently he came to me and asked me if God had told me anything about him, if God had spoken to me about him and I shared with him that God had told me that it was not proper for a single man to be in a partnership with a married woman. The Bible says we are to avoid the appearance of evil. He laughed and told me that he did not see anything wrong with it, that God was blessing it, yet many, many people, even those at work, do not really believe they are..
---Holly4jc on 1/11/08

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3) ...just friends. They laugh at him when he says they are just friends and say to him "yeah right!" He just shrugs it off and laughs. I am just praying for Godly order in all things for them, but I wanted to see how all you bloggers out there view this. Thanks for your input and please, if you have anything else to add, please do!
---Holly4jc on 1/11/08

"Holly4jc" has asked this. In case you're the wife, Holly,
I c the "4jc" in your name (o:

Your husband knows your partner? Are you all Christians? It can be good to have a guy who understands you two. But I'd keep the personal conversations to when you-all three are together openly discussing things.

And talk with your **husband** about this. > (2) >
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/11/08

The Bible says nothing about this kind of situation as during that time in history women were only considered to be property of the husband. Women had no rights to even own property.
---Susie on 1/11/08

Many hours alone is a sure recipe for disaster. If you must work together, then there should always be someone there too. It sounds to me like there is already a measure of attraction between the two of you, and if so, you must avoid all temptations to act on it. Maybe this is God's way of providing a way out and not letting you be tempted beyond what you can bear as mentioned in 1 Cor 10:13
---Tupou on 1/11/08

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If married woman is focused on single man, blogs will not deter woman from making a run for it. "If God will bless my affair".

When victims become predators, they lose all sense of right from wrong.

The moral compass always points back to self. Quite often it takes a ride in the "cruiser" downtown before reality hits. Meaning when a predator moves on from consenting adults to the non-consenting - dawn comes to light, quickly, in the back of a "cruiser".
---lovable_linda on 1/10/08

When victims move into the role of the predator, it wouldn't matter if the business partner was single, married or divorced - predator's going to pounce on anything that moves.
Crime doesn't pay. Eventually, it all catches up and the thief is caught with their hands in the cookie jar. You need more help than what we can ever give you.
---lovable_linda on 1/10/08

I can't recall that the Bible makes any reference to such a situation.
But we are warned to be careful about our relationships.
In your case, as Mod says, there could be potential danger, but if your friendship is pure, your wish for your best friend will be that she remains happily and completely married to her husband, who is also your friend, and all your actions will be to that end.
---alan_of_UK on 1/10/08

Having said that, I now suddenly wonder why you have felt you have to ask wherther it is OK
Are you feeling yourself drawn to her, or is she to you?
Is it that which is making you unsure?
If so, you need to find a way of making the business partnership a bit colder.
You may have to explain to her that you are feeling too much for her ... and hopefullly she would laugh and ridicule you!
---alan_of_UK on 1/10/08

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I wonder why you are still unmarried?
Have you had girlfriends?
Have you secretly had hopes of this girl?
You need to be honest with yourself.
Could you ask her to help you find a girl-friend?
---alan_of_UK on 1/10/08

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