Baptism For Salvation
I am a spirit filled Christian. Also, I believe (as do the Church of Christ) that baptism is part of salvation. Does anyone know of a church or even a denomination that believes in both?
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---Matt on 2/11/08
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Acts 10:44-48 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
---micha9344 on 9/16/10|
I also believe, baptism is part of salvation
In this dispensation of the Grace of God, Paul says one baptism
Eph.4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
And explains what it is
1 Cor.12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit
No Water needed for salvation
---michael_e on 9/16/10|
You keep throwing around Mark 16:16, but what you fail to do is show what Jesus meant when He said "saved". Saved from what?? Does it say?? Can you answer??
Saved is not a narrow word, but a broad word. Saved doesn't mean only saved from hell. It means saved from physical annhialation (Romans 5:9) when our bodies are ressurected, saved from hell (Eph. 2:8-9) through faith BY ITSELF, saved TO an inheritance through endurance (Romans 10:9-13), and others.
What was Jesus saying we will be saved from by being baptized?? Does He elaborate?? hmmm
---James_L on 9/15/10|
Mark 16 v 16 says, he that believeth(faith) and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be dammed.
It does not say he that believeth that is saved shall be baptized.
The Man - made trin relig - org's churches Are sure trying to be like thieves to steal their into heaven, Guess What ? , It wont happen.
I'm not going to cheapen the Gospel for No one.
---Lawrence on 8/6/10|
"You got it backwards. You do Not get saved first & then to be baptized." Lawrence I find this statement very strange in light of the fact that nowhere in the Bible does being baptized come before salvation!! And in Mark 16:16 Jesus said , he who believes(to believe is to have salvation) and is baptized shall be saved. Someone got it backwards but I do not believe it is Rebecca.
---mima on 8/6/10|
You got it backwards. You do Not get saved first & then to be baptized. If that is so, then Jesus said this Mark 16 v 16 wrong. Since The Word of God totally Correct, Jesus said it Right.
---Lawrence on 8/5/10|
Baptism is an important step of obedience that every Christian should take. Baptism cannot be a requirement for salvation. To make it such is an attack on the sufficiency of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
---Court7646 on 2/26/08|
i love it when people use the term'being saved' or something like it. "it is fitting for a person to live and die but once, and then the judgement." do you erase all the references to Gods judgement. show me one besides the thief on the cross, who confessed his sin first, who was ever told they were 'saved'. for a part of the rest of the story read John 3:16-21,not just verse 16, if you're people will let you.
---eric on 2/19/08|
Susie: If a saved person doesn't get baptized, they won't go to hell. It all depends on their relationship with God. There are many whom has been saved and became a Christian that backslide and are no longer on their way to heaven. If a person doesn't abide in Christ and Christ in them always, they won't make it. No matter how many times they've been baptized.
---Rebecca_D on 2/14/08|
Susie, no. An intention to be baptized is as good as the act itself if one is prevented.
---InimicusStultitiae on 2/13/08|
Matt, I go to the Church of Christ.I would be glad to answer your questions.email me. God bless
---Kella3336 on 2/13/08|
Mark 16:16 wasn't putting emphasis on water baptism, but on not believing.
There are several baptisms mentioned:
New birth(1Corinthians 12:13, John 3:3)
Water baptism(Matthew 28:19)
Baptism in the Holy Ghost(Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, John 1:33)
Baptism unto repentance in the Gospels was under the Old Covenant & doesn't apply to the church.
Baptism is only a sign of a good conscience.(1Peter 3:21)
---Rickey on 2/12/08|
So, if a person accepted Jesus Christ and died in a car wreck on their way to be baptized, they would go to Hell?
---Susie on 2/13/08|
The Catholic Church teaches that, as Scripture teaches, baptism washes away sin, so it should be done if possible. There are Catholics that promote tongues, and Church teaching does not oppose it.
---InimicusStultitiae on 2/12/08|
Baptism isn't required for salvation. Scriptures show it. For example, in Acts, folks were filled with Holy Spirit before they got baptized. The only folks who can get filled with the Holy Spirit are born-again/saved folks.
Romans 10:9-10 shows how to get saved.
If a person did Romans 10:9 & died immediately, would they go to hell because they didn't get baptized.
Jesus was baptized under the Old Testament as a requirement of the law. He was just obeying the law.
---Rickey on 2/12/08|
.susie, your belief that baptism is unecessary for salvation is a nonChristian belief. Christ Commands baptism, and he himself got baptized, therefore your belief is nonBiblical and antiChrist because you place your belief opposing God's Word.
---Eloy on 2/12/08|
Matt...The Apostolics believe that you must be baptized to be saved and they believe they are spirit filled also. Of course, they also believe you're not saved unless you speak in tongues. And, their members must dress in legalistic fashion. As a Trinitarian pentecostal (you call it spirit-filled), I do not believe that baptism is necessary for salvation. You can find all kinds of churches that will agree with you beliefs, but does the Bible????
---Susie on 2/11/08|
There are still some churches that believe in both. But you will find more and more Churches becoming apostate in these last days. Many are already blasphemously and blatantly preaching that baptism is not necessary for salvation, when in fact the Bible clearly Commands time and again that baptism is necessary for salvation. Lit.Gk: "whom obeys and is baptized will be saved, but whom not obeys will be condemned." Mark 16:16.
---Eloy on 2/11/08|
Your problem is with order of events. God chose his elect prior to the creation of the world as explained first the first chapter of Ephesians, God gives you his irresistible grace and adopts you in to his divine family. Every thing else is a result of your salvation, baptism and repentance included.
---Phil_the_Elder on 2/11/08|
What is the question? Beleives in both what and baptism?
---alan_of_UK on 2/11/08|