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Will Obama be the next president of the United States?

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 ---Alan on 2/26/08
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Alan, the UN & all of congress voted to get Sadam out. Bush responded to the terrorist attack in Afganistan & "we" are still there.
Our President was a democrat when US went into all other Wars except for the civil war. I didn't say any war was unprovoked, only that they were democrats.
---Chip on 4/17/08

Alan, why do you say 'Is there any one here besides you that is not a Satanist?' You are deliberately accusing me of accusing members here of being Satanists, when I am talking of World Wars being started by Satanists, a fact that you wish to distract people from. You know, Albert Pike (33 degree freemason) and his plan for three world wars. If you cover up the guilt of freemasons then I can only think you have some reason for doing so.
---frances008 on 4/17/08

AlanofUK, which 'bin Ladin' you are talking about.
1. The one who lives at the Hyatt hotel and is well built, with a long beard.
2. The one who the US worked with and supplied with arms in Afghanistan and the US had videos of the training camps and has a long beard.
---frances008 on 4/17/08

3. The one who goes from cave to cave with his kidney machine trailing behind him, but evades all US attempts to spot him and has a long beard..
4. The one the US kept in a US hospital and has a long beard.
5. The one who died several years ago and had an orbituary placed in an Egyptian paper and had a long beard.

NB please notice they all have/had long beards.
---frances008 on 4/17/08

Chip ... You suggest that a Democrat "got America inot WW2" whereas Bush merely responded to attack?
Pearl Harbour was an atrtack on American property and its navy, by an identifiable ememy - Japan. The attack started the war for the USA.
The attack which Bush responded to was by an enemy identified as Bin Laden, based in Afghanistan. But Bush attacked Iraq ... without any evidence that Bin Laden had any support from Iraq.
---alan_of_UK on 4/17/08

NOTICE to everyone:
That's why I said, "Dems. Got us INTO",
Not started...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/17/08

Alan, I was referring to wars that the U.S.A. fought had a democrat in office. Not that they literally started the war, only that they put the U.S.A. in them. Now democrats call republicans warmongers. How ironic. I am not a democrat or republican, I vote for the one that I think best for the job.
---Chip on 4/17/08

Chip ... All wars were started by Democrats?
You have got to be kidding!
Looking at the last century ... WW1 was started by a german emperor
WW2 was started by Hitler & Mussolini & the war in the Pacific (which brought America in) was started by Hihorito.
Korea was started by North Korean Communists

None of them bore any resemblance to democrats or Democrats.
---alan_of_UK on 4/17/08

alan_of_UK, sorry I took so long, didn't see you're response.
All wars were by democrats except for the civil war, Abe was a republican.
Bush didn't start this war, we were attacked, our President responded.(with full vote of support of congress & un)
---Chip on 4/17/08

Reply ... Is there anyone here, except yuo, who is not a Satanist?
Is the present credit crisis a result of Satanists, or of foolish bankers lending to the sub-prime borrowrs?
A few months ago, you would have said it was satanists who were not lending to the sub-sub prime borrowers who were creating housing ptobelems fior them.
Your attitude seesm to be if there is some (fabricated) evidence, that is proof of conspiracy & if there is no evidence, that also is proof of the conspiracy.
---alan_of_UK on 4/17/08

Alan of Uk, Communism was created for many, many reasons, including the purpose of creating Hitler to combat it, too. There are always a million ways the Satanists benefits from their actions. They do the most atrocious things so that umpteen objectives are met at the same time, it is quite devilishly ingenious. But they don't full the researchers of historical facts.
---frances008 on 4/16/08

"The point of the two Wars was the creation of Communism"
Strange that Hitler came to power on the promise to fight Communism.
He later attacked Russia
---alan_of_UK on 4/16/08

I saw an old Iraqi man crossing a street on youtube. Right behind him a bomb went off, and he didn't even react. I am 100% sure the Iraqi people would have preferred for the USA not to bomb them to pieces. That's my opinion. Saddam Hussein was backed by the US all along, they are all freemasons together leading the planet.
---frances008 on 4/16/08

You don't think the WOMEN in Iraq are Happier, NOW that Saddam & his Child Raping Sons are GONE & WHO killed/tortured 100's of 1000's of them?
IF not, you hav'nt spoken to ANY of them.
IF Russia & China WAS'NT getting their OIL(12 dollars a Barrel) from Iran, They would help US & THIS would be OVER in Iraq!
However, God IS in Control!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/15/08

Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. W Bush's grandfather was the financial backer of Hitler. The point of the two Wars was the creation of Communism, notice Japan who opposed Communism, needed to be taken. The Chinese suffered far more under Communism at the hands of their working class, than they did at the hands of the Japanese - despite the propaganda put out in history books.
---frances008 on 4/15/08

You err!
R. Nixon GOT us out of Viet-Nam,
THAT a DEM got us into & kept US in for 10 yrs. & 54,000 dead American Boys!
Korea, DEMS.
Dropping a NUKE,Twice... DEMS.
Clinton show of WEAKNESS in Somalia, that CAUSED O.Ben-Laden to be empowered by the LACK of RESOLVE the DEMS Had/have!

WE were attacked 7 times under DEMS.
Thats WHY "They" want the Dems to win!
Your Bleeding Hearts, will Kill most of US!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/15/08

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Paul was a great prayer warrior. He would have made a great president. Man, that is what we need in the whitehouse. A prayer warrior.
---catherine on 4/15/08

The thing is, to create a problem (war) and then offer the solution (peace under a Communist system) and we all know which everyone will beg for. It was deliberate of the Republicans to cause wars so that people would vote for illuminati Obama or Clinton. McCain more or less blocks himself from the Presidency deliberately, by making it clear that he, the only republican, loves to spill blood.
---frances008 on 4/14/08

Chip ... for those of us who are not US citizens, please tell us!
---alan_of_UK on 4/14/08

Francis, how many wars have been started by repub. presidents? How many by democrats?
---Chip on 4/14/08

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Rebecca, you say "Alan of UK: I watched a clip on You tube. She spoke that she and Obama now, believes the same way. Oprah has a huge impact on alot of people"

Clearly, she has had a huge impact on you!

But why do yuo beleive what she says about Obama's beliefs?

Would you like someone here telling us all what you beleive?
---alan_of_UK on 4/14/08


You are definitely right. Unless we regularly invade and occupy foreign countries, kill thousands of their inhabitants, including women and children, we will ever be able to spread the message of freedom. We reach out to the world with our vision. Bombs, bullets, and cruise missiles are efficient and effective tools to project that vision, especially to those who disgree with us. Only after we reach out to everyone else in the world in this way can we hope or peace.
---matthew on 4/14/08

IMHO McCain was brainwashed by the Vietnamese/captors into working for the Communist NWO. Therefore he took the nomination of the Republicans (who have to stand against socialism) in order to offer the public WAR as against the democrats PEACE. So naturally, the sheeple will pick PEACE but they do not know the cost to freedom of thought, of that 'peace'.
---frances008 on 4/12/08

I certainly pray Obama will be the next president.He is a fine man and I believe a Christian.He also has great plans to help this nation.
---shirley on 4/12/08

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DDM, no harm done. You will find over time that I post only fact that can be verified with something that we all can agree with. I understand that you made a "blanket" statement for those that "push" rumors. God bless.
---Chip on 4/11/08

Chip_ My Bad, Just trying to keep it Real!
It was'nt just to you though, It was to anyone who started replying with their code book logic...
No harm intended!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/11/08


I don't think they were saying what you thought they were saying therefore I didn't want to get things stired up. However, if you are correct, it would be sad. Let's take the high road and move on.
---Moderator on 4/10/08

Alan of UK: I watched a clip on You tube. She spoke that she and Obama now, believes the same way. Oprah has a huge impact on alot of people.
---Rebecca_D on 4/10/08

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Everyone is entitled to believe what they want to.
I don't believe that Sen. Obama is a Muslim, NOR the anti-Christ.
There is no shred of evidence of either of these hateful rumors. Get informed!
---NVBarbara on 4/10/08

Obama is an obedient agent of the Illuminati, he may be working for the Antichrist, but he is NOT the boss.
---frances008 on 4/10/08

alan of u.s.: lol and he barks up the wrong tee all the time..he has a big car, big house, big mouth and big head..what next lol
---lila on 4/9/08

Duane Dudley Martin, please read my post again. I didn't say Obama is or could be anti-christ, I said that I have heard & read that. I didn't offer my opinion. I do not form opinions or learn from "code books & such". If I offer my opinion I will state "in my opinion", other wise, all of my post is verified with Bible, not anyones opinion.
---Chip on 4/9/08

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Mima ... I have no argument about Islam being a religion of the devil.
You know two Moslems, and have read the Koran.

So what?
That is no justification of your assumption that Obama is a Muslim.
---alan_of_UK on 4/9/08

I believe so, but I no longer believe that he is the right person.
---catherine on 4/9/08


I am a mathematician by training (and temperament) and a software engineer by profession. My life revolves around precision. Thus, I strive to ensure that when words are used, their meaning is clear and unambiguous, when claims are made, their source and reliability are well understood.

Thus, I may appear contrary to some. I don't argue just to argue. I challenge people to support their beliefs and claims. More power to them if they can! Otherwise, all should be aware of that too.
---StrongAxe on 4/9/08

--alan_of_UK I would urge you, and I have urged others many times to actually get a copy of the Koran and read it. After having done that if you cannot see that Islam is a religion of the devil then really. I believe you're blind.
---Mima on 4/9/08

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I doubt it(Prez), But crazier things have happened before...
The AC Isn't a Black or White man(Christian or a Muslim)from America!
Read your Bible, NOT code books & such!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/9/08

I have read & heard that Obama is the anti-christ. If that is true, he will be elected president, however, being elected doesn't mean that he is the anti-christ.
I suspect that he will be our next president. Most "people of color" & democrats will probably vote for him.
---Chip on 4/9/08

Rebecca ... Just because Opraha beleive it!
What evidence is there that Obama "believes that man made God in his own image"
It does seem a leap of imagination!
---alan_of_UK on 4/9/08

Wow Mima !!!
You are a man. Your name has four letters. You own a large car, and you are an evangelist.
I know an evangestist who ives near me, whose name has four letters and he owns a large car.
He has a dog who once bit my daughter.
That Mima is enough to convince me that you ought to have yuor dog destroyed!
---alan_of_UK on 4/9/08

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I am going to vote that Obama doesn't get elected to be the next President. We don't need a person like him. Not because he is black, he could be pink and I still wouldn't vote for him. Before Obama came about, Oprah Winfrey didn't believe there was a God. Now since she has joined forces with Obama, she now believes there is a God. But she believes that man made God in his own image instead God making man in his own image. I think we need to worry about Oprah's soul as well.
---Rebecca_D on 4/8/08

Strongaxe, we should follow the call of the Lord,serving whereever He desires.

I am called to contradict those who distort His Word-wolves in sheep's clothing-leading people astray.

If it appears I am too direct then I'm sorry for any offense I cause you.

I wonder whether it is a cultural thing? You Americans are well known for using euphemisms-the correct'toilet' becomes 'bathroom', where there's no bath or 'restroom' where no one rests. Maybe we need to tell it like it is.
---Warwick on 4/8/08

Actually I have very little evidence. My basic evidence comes from a study of the Koran when I was in college, the course was taught by an old Orthodox rabbi. The only other evidence I have is personal knowledge of at least two Moslems who have converted.
---Mima on 4/8/08


What did Jesus talk about: loving your neighbor, feeding the poor, making peace, forgiving your enemies, etc.
He rarely raised his voice to (anyone other than religious hypocrites, Peter once, and a fig tree once.)

(Interesting - your last post got duplicated, and appoved on two different dates!)
---StrongAxe on 4/8/08

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Do you have a single shred of actual evidence that Barack Obama is a muslim, based on his words or his deeds ("by their fruits ye shall know them"), or it it merely from conjecture and innuendo?
---StrongAxe on 4/8/08

to mima - the conservative right voted & supported a 'christian'. look what happened to this nation. this person who profess to be christian does not practice it.
---mike on 4/8/08

I am very prejudiced, not over color, but over his background. I do not believe he's Christian. I believe, in fact, he is a Moslem. At the risk of sounding arrogant, you would have to know something of how young children are brought up in Moslem nations. The hatred you see expressed by the Moslem crowd on TV is real very real and very well indoctrinated!!! If he becomes our president. I believe God has hidden his face from our sinful nation.
---Mima on 4/8/08

Catherine: Dare you put words into God's mouth? You really need to take a moment & just chill (pray God's will be done in the matter according to "His" word & purpose). :)
---Leon on 4/5/08

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Catherine, your only other option is Ralph Nader---again!
If God told me the words he told you I would automatically think of McCain. He's a warmonger and can't keep his lies straight.
---NVBarbara on 4/5/08

I am becoming very dissatisfied with this whole thing. I want someone else running for president. you need to know. God said, "if that man wins the election". This is all He said. I believe I know which man He was talking about. The tone of God's voice was not of "happy".>>>You judge a man. Judge whether or not the living God lives in him. Please!
---catherine on 3/25/08

Robyn, I pray that people won't vote for color or gender. We just need to be in earnest prayer for God to choose our next President and that whomever it is will listen to God's leading.
---NVBarbara on 3/18/08

StrongAxe I agree we all can fall for majoring on the minors. What do you believe are the more fundamental issues?
---Warwick on 3/18/08

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Who cares? But I think what you really wanted to say was and I will say it for you: will a black man be the next president of the United States? Again that said and out of the way. Who cares? And yes I am black. I am a Christian first and foremost. I respect whomever fills the position. Color does not matter. If the people want white. Give them white. If black. Give them black.Amen
---Robyn on 3/18/08

Very Good Leon--THANKS!
---NVBarbara on 3/17/08

StrongAxe I agree we all can fall for majoring on the minors. What do you believe are the more fundamental issues?
---Warwick on 3/17/08

lEON ... I agree with what you would find refreshing, but we will have to wait & see what happens.1
---alan_of_UK on 3/17/08

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"...people are more likely to vote for a white man." Okay Alan! We'll just have to wait & see. :) In my opinion, Americans really do want "change" & it's about time. Many of us want leadership at the very highest level of our government that ethnically represents all of "we the people". It would be refreshing to periodically see a black, latin/hispanic, native american, asian american, etc., male or female president versus "white man only" leadership.
---Leon on 3/15/08

God HAS given the illuminati power to destroy this world. That does not mean to say that they won't be punished for it. Who is right God or Jack?

Judas was given power to betray Jesus. Peter was allowed to deny him. We all have free choice, Jack.

Caiaphas allowed Jesus to be handed over to die for the Jewish people.
---frances008 on 3/14/08

Alan of UK-Just as an aside, I looked it up and there are at this moment 249,900 in the USA! I couldn't find a count for the UK. I do know that Alan (swoon) Rickman is from the UK!
---NVBarbara on 3/14/08

I believe so.
---catherine on 3/14/08

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Leon ... I think I am probably a "Model T"
Most of those, except the museum examples' are probably rusty by now (like my brain!
I don't know about Obama's chances ... I guess he may be the Dem candidate (and I have to admit I don't like the other contender)
I think when it comes to the final vote, if the US is anything like the UK, people are more likely to vote for a white man.
---alan_of_UK on 3/13/08

Never mind Alan. I was just having fun. :) Thanks for your input.

By the way, do you still think Obama doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell at winning the U.S. presidency? I know you didn't say it quite that way, but I think that's the point you were trying to make.
---Leon on 3/13/08

I think Leon was joking Alan. A 'model' # may be the year you were born?
However on a scale of 1 - 10, I think you're a '10!'
---NVBarbara on 3/13/08

frances said: ** StrongAxe, the Illuminati DO rule this world, but not the next world.**

Jesus said: "You could have no power over me were it not given to you from above."

Who is right: frances or Jesus?
---Jack on 3/13/08

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Based on the heated arguments in these blogs (and also all over the church in general), many Christians waste their time quibbling about such superficial issues as whether to worship on Saturday or Sunday, or whether it's OK ot eat pork, or drink wine, or vote Democrat or Republican, or baptize by sprinkling or dunking, or whether we should read Harry Potter.

Meanwhile more fundamental issues of Christian life are often left unaddressed.
---StrongAxe on 3/13/08

Leon ... I'm still puzzled! You aksed my "numerical designation in the UK" & now you refer to my "Model number"
Both those terms seem strange to apply to a human being ... but perhaps in the US they do mean something.
We don't in the UK have names like "Alan Currie 2"
---alan_of_UK on 3/12/08

Leon ... And this nondencse has nothing to do with the subject, but it has to do with my trying to say I was not the other Alan.
And I did that, because when you said "They could be one & the same since both claim to be from the UK ", you seemed to be casting doubt on my previous explanation to RitaH that I was not the same man.
---alan_of_UK on 3/12/08

Leon ... I was not suggesting YOU would steal my identity.
But if I released my national Insurance number here, and my Christian and surnames are already here, it would be possible for someone to steal my identity and with that trawl round to find which bank I am with, and then apply for change of address and new cards.
It's been done.
---alan_of_UK on 3/12/08

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No, no, no Alan Currie! I may've meant your model number. Do you really mean to imply I'd "steal" your identity? :)

By the way, Alan of UK, what in the world does all this nonsense have to do with whether or not Obama will be the next U.S. president? It seems Hillary & Billary, & Ol' John Mc Cain are at sixes & sevens over the possibility.
---Leon on 3/12/08

1)StrongAxe that which well read committed Christians argue over is little.

Others-some Christians-come to Scripture prejudiced against it-can't accept any Scripture which contradicts their worldly long-ages-evolutionary views,forced to argue as acceptance of God's Word at face-value would undermine their non-Biblical view.

We're all biased but need to decide which is the best bias to be biased with: changing opinions of fallible, sinful men or the unchanging Word of a perfect God?
---Warwick on 3/11/08

2)I agree about the Holy Spirit-some use this excuse to follow their feelings. Anything the Holy Spirit says will agree with Scripture so we must test our 'inspirations' by Scripture. A checking mechanism. Those who read Scripture cover to cover discover Scripture also interprets Scripture.

One of the reasons we have many denominations is that many are national churches. Also others branched out when the original denomination began to favour the rules of men over God's Word. Some are fakes!
---Warwick on 3/11/08

Leon ... "Alan: Yes, we have an abundance of Alan's here too. So, what is your numerical designation in the UK?"
What do you mean?
Of my various numbers, national Indureance, Passport, bank, Inland Revenue, only my driving licence contains any reference to my surname and Christian name.
And I won't give you any of them because there is a real threat of Identity fraud
---alan_of_UK on 3/11/08

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Yes, that is true, but WHO gets to interpret what scripture MEANS? Who is the final authority on that? The reason we have so many Christian denominations is that there are many different schools of thought on that.

And if you say "The Holy Spirit", there are just as many people saying "I feel that the Holy Spirit is telling me this" or "is telling me that". So until Jesus returns, there is no objective criterion.
---StrongAxe on 3/10/08

Mr. Binky:

America was attacked on 9/11 - and what did George W. Bush do? After he found out, he thought it was more important to spend the next 20 minutes reading stories to children.

And Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 (which has been re-iterated again and again). The reason we invaded Iraq was because North Korea has WMDs but no oil, while Iraq has oil. It was to defend not the US, but commercial interests.
---StrongAxe on 3/10/08

Melissa: Having served in the U.S. Armed Forces is not a prerequisite for becoming president.

"Respodsipility"? Being able to correctly spell words isn't a Constitutional requirement for being president either. Aren't you glad? :) That sounds like how my dear grandmother would've pronounced responsibility with teeth out off her mouth.

Alan: Yes, we have an abundance of Alans here too. So, what is your numerical designation in the UK?
---Leon on 3/10/08

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