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Fate Of Aborted Babies

Abortion is probably the most widely used form of birth control in the world. That isn't good. Abortion is MURDER.
What happens to all these little murder victims?

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I have been reading peoples views on abortion. Just for a moment let us all take a step back and breath!! Abortion is often not just taken lightly. Read anti abortion web pages and you will read the heartache and suffering woman go through. He who is free from sin cast the first stone. Many many of the woman bitterly regret their decision and wish they hadnt gone through with it. So perhaps we should be asking where is the help when these woman made a decision whilst confused or feeling pressured. Perhaps we should be questioning the abortion clinics and drug companies who have created these options for woman when they are feeling vulnerable.
---karen on 7/8/10

ONLY the righteous can say Romans 10:6:7:8

all others are un/righteous?( AM I Quoting from Biblical scriptures and y'all still saying what the scriptures said you should not?

Can you all see how you error badly?

I don't understand that it say's one thing and then Y'all post the Opposite....Duh!
---Carla5754 on 6/9/08

Lets see what God's Word says about where the Little ones are after being killed by abortion........To be absent from the body,{soul & spirit} to be present with the Lord.
Documentation 2 Corinthians 5:8 Gabby
---Gabby on 6/6/08

Ken, Well said!
---Gordon on 6/3/08

I think our kind God will take good care of this babies.But we need to teach our kids THY SHALL NOT KILL Babies are blessings from God.Some planned blessing some unplanned blessing.But if God bless them with money they sure would not burn it.It is murder.God planned our lives before we were born.He knew who are parents would be before them.How dare someone mess with that plan.
---Marina on 5/29/08

God does not force himself upon us because he loves us. Part of that love is his gift of free will to choose. Until we are old enough to make that choice he holds all little ones blameless until one grows in maturity with the ability to differentiate between right from wrong, good from evil, and fully understand what sin is. Only he knows when that point is for a young person. At that point it will be time to choose. We can be confident in knowing that all aborted children are with Him.
---Ken on 5/29/08

Rom 10:6

But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down [from above]

Rom 10:7

Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.

Rom 10:8

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, [even] in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach,
---Carla5754 on 5/29/08

Rev 5:3
And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation,
---Carla5754 on 5/29/08

Carla5754, GOD is the ONE Who reveals where aborted babies go at Death. HE has made the knowledge known to His servants, who in turn, have informed others of the Church until the Info has spread by word-of-mouth and through documented writings. What happens to babies when they die is not such a "mysterious, unknowable issue". GOD makes it CLEAR why abortion is wrong. While the infant victims go to Heaven, the murderous adults involved need to get right with their Maker, or they end up in Hell.
---Gordon on 5/25/08

Christianity and philosophy do not go together. We have only the word of God as our guide and he say's nothing specific. I really think we should just have a little FAITH in a God who would sacrifice his only son on a tree just so the very people who hated and despised him could repent and be spared his wrath and fury. If he loves us that much, how much more these little ones?
---Danosaur on 5/24/08

ONLY God Knows!
---Carla5754 on 5/24/08

The Bible is silent on this issue, so all we have are opinions, some believe that all aborted babies will go to heaven, and that's understandable. Some believe that they will be blotted out as if they never existed. We'll only know when we get there. The only problem I have with touting the former opinion too much is that some women may think "the baby will be better off going to heaven"...deceiving themselves into thinking they're doing what's BEST for the baby.
---Todd1 on 5/24/08

You can Rest assured that Every baby that has departed earth is in heaven...
Actually there was a Mother who was contemplating an abortion, who had a vision of heaven...She saw millions of children who had been aborted.They were asking God to please Bless and give to all of their sisters and brothers on planet earth, all of the gifts and talents that they never got to use on be cont'd.
---Elisabeth on 5/23/08

This is True...There was a pastor who had a vision of heaven and in that vision he saw babies everywhere...He heard a voice that told him that for every baby and young child that are in heaven that their saved Mothers would have the opportunity of raising them in heaven whenever they got there.There was some more to this story but it is too long to write.
---Elisabeth on 5/23/08

Exactly, Jeff (Jansen), That's another aspect of YAH's Grace.
---Gordon on 5/23/08

Since these babies are too young to make a conscience decision for themselves to accept Christ or reject Christ, I believe God takes them all to heaven.
---jeff_jansen on 5/23/08

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Cindi, Things are different for every single human being after Adam and Eve. They were directly created, while everyone else was birthed. Thanks to mother's-to-be and Ultra-Sound, we know that unborn babies are alive and kicking. YAH (GOD) forms and grows the baby in the mother's womb. And, if you claim YAHUSHUA (Jesus Christ) as Saviour and Lord, you SHOULD stand up for what is Right concerning Abortion. YAH Bless!
---Gordon on 5/18/08

Cindi a living soul is a being who is alive, having the capacity for survival, or a continuation of a meaningful and purposeful existence. A fetus has that capacity. The mother breathes for her unborn child, as the oxygen carried in her blood sustains the child via the umbilical cord. The child is as much a living soul as his/her mother. The vitality of a child is the characteristic, principle, or force that distinguishes his/her life. Not their ability to breathe on their own.
---Josef on 5/18/08

Cindi ... God does not make us in the same way that He made Adam
---alan_of_UK on 5/18/08

Let me start by saying that I'm not PRO abortion, I'm not committed either way. BUT, I did want to bring up that Adam was not 'a living soul' until God breathed into his nostrils the "breath of life". So it would seem to me that God has decided that Life begins when breath is taken. Therefore, the aborted fetus' would not be living souls.
This can not be a popular thread, I try not to tackle this subject often... but now and then I do like to make sure all angles are thrown into the mix.
---Cindi on 5/16/08

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If I swing an axe, it is just at unsupported claims. When people believe very strongly about doctrines that have no basis in scripture, I just challenge them to demonstrate where they get their ideas from, and to defend why they (and we) should believe them.
---StrongAxe on 5/15/08

Ryan Z, You're right, I DO know the Truth. I don't know EVERYTHING, I don't CLAIM to. But, I know what I know. The Truth which I know comes from GOD, for He alone is TRUTH and the Source of all Truth. And, YES, anything that opposes the Truth, which I, or ANYONE ELSE on this WebSite has posted, IS "false doctrine". GOD makes it very possible to know the Truth, you just have to WANT it. And not settle for the smooth and shallow doctrines spewed out by the Devil through any willing vessel.
---Gordon on 5/15/08


Abortion is murder! It is bad!

Babies need a Savior just like adults. King David said:
Ps 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.
They are saved just like you and I by the grace of God and the precious blood of Christ!

Lord bless,
---trey on 5/14/08

Gordon, I could show you verses in bibles that have better transalations of words in Greek & Hebrew, but then your going to tell me I am using improper bibles and I should only be using King James' Version (Which is grossly incorrect in too many areas to be used) And that would be a pointless discussion. Your mind is made up, you and only you know the truth and anything that doesn't fall in line with your truth is "false doctrine."
---Ryan_Z on 5/14/08

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Laura, what you are suggesting is that all of humanity are born sinless? That would mean every person born is just as the Messiah at birth. That would put every person equal with Christ at birth. Have you thought your doctrine through?
---Ryan_Z on 5/14/08

Ryan Z, Where did you get that the Lake of Fire is for CORRECTION? Do you happen to have a Scripture Verse handy for that one? People have all the time to be corrected of sin, and to repent of sin NOW before Death. It is appointed unto man once to die, and after that the Judgment. Meaning, UNLESS GOD DOES OTHERWISE for a specific reason, MOST have to decide NOW where they will spend Eternity, not get a "second chance for correction in the lake of Fire after Death.
---Gordon on 5/14/08

I heard a Lutheran pastor say, that a baby who dies without being baptized goes to hell. This pastor has a radio program and occupies an important position in the Missouri Lutheran Synod!!! Question for any Lutheran, is this the Lutheran Church official position?
---Mima on 5/14/08

Children aborted go directly to Heaven. They have never sinned, so they do not need Salvation to get them there.
---laura8395 on 5/13/08

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Gordon, salvation begins and ends with the Father. He is the author, initiator and grantor. Mankinds role in salvation is to receive the gift, either now or after correction in the lake of fire. God is the lake of fire, He is an all consuming fire. In your doctrine it sounds like He picks and chooses His favorites to live out eternity with Him. This would mean that God plays favorites with hummanity.
---Ryan_Z on 5/13/08

Ryan Z, The people who end up in the Eternally Burning Lake of Fire will ONLY consist of those who rejected Salvation through YAHUSHUA. The Fiery Lake will only inhabit those who refused to turn away from their wickedness and sin, and accept GOD's Forgiveness and then begin walking in GOD's Way of Holiness. GOD is not the Hypocrite. It's those of mankind who fail to listen to GOD when He warns them about SIN.
---Gordon on 5/13/08

Strong axe, Your words sounds like the thoughts of Ishmaels axe.. Perhaps it's much more comfortable swinging the handle than receiving the blade.
---frank on 5/13/08

#1 Gordon, I like to stick with scripture. Babies are human and suffer from the human condition. If they do not have a believing parent then they are destined for the second resurrection and the correction period in the lake of fire. I do not believe their correction period will be as intense as a murderer but they are still human and were not covered by the blood of the Lamb by the believing parent.
---Ryan_Z on 5/12/08

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#2 Gordon, I am deadset against protraying God as a hypoctrite. He tells us to forgive 70 X 7 times yet He will turn around and be so unforgiving as to roast the majority of hummanity in eternal torments for all eternity. What god do you serve?
---Ryan_Z on 5/12/08

(stepping aside one moment to answer the question this blog posted, rather than any side topics that may have arisen).

I'm curious why this this issue is important. If someone is WORRIED about the fate of the souls of aborted infants, that means he's afraid of something. But of what? That God might somehow treat them unfairly? If one believe that, then one has MUCH bigger problems than just the question on this blog.
---StrongAxe on 5/12/08

The red bio-medical materials disposal bag along with all other waste tissue.
---notlaw99 on 5/12/08

Ryan Z, No Scripture will you get from me on this one. I'll leave it with you to figure out. For, why are you dead-set against WICKED, SIN-LOVING PEOPLE being everlastingly punished via the Lake of Fire, but yet, it's like PULLING TEETH to convince you that GOD automatically admits INNOCENT, UNBORN, MURDERED BABIES, and any other baby , into His Beautiful Heaven. And one must become like a child in order to get there anyway.
---Gordon on 5/12/08

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Is a person who is being kept alive by medical machines until they are able to survive without them biomedical waste?

The human body is often considered a biomachine. When in conception, the female machine keeps the fetus alive until it grows to sustain itself.

Is there any difference?
---Steveng on 5/11/08

The fetus is not a stone. The fetus is like any any other part of the female body. The fetus a living part as much as the heart, the liver and the brain. The fetus is an outgrowth to continue the life cycle of man and woman. How many of 2 million fetuses that were mudered over the years could have been the person to lead other to Christ? Who could have been a very important person to God? This is Satan's job. He is doing everything in his power to kill Christians.
---Steveng on 5/11/08

Reading comments on abortion, I leave this with you.
Im a guy with big tough guy friends. Men who were proven on the battlefield. They made brash statements and reveled in callous remarks. They were educated and too intelligent for any belief in GOD. Their knees knock, they tremble when they hear the name of Jesus. They carry Bibles wherever they go... Friends and family are amazed to this day. You might say that they as a group, without warning suddenly, (saw the light).
---frank on 5/10/08

I met several people in the Spirit that had been aborted. One in particular stood with me looking at a mother holding her child. He turned and looked me in the eye and said, "Everyone needs a mommy." Then walked away.. Simple words but they have burned in me unto this day.
---frank on 5/9/08

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There will be MILLIONS of babies in Heaven! Don't forget, "Jesus loves the little children~red & yellow, black & white, they are all precious in His sight"!
I knew of a girl yrs. ago who worked for an abortion center. She said that they would joke & say, "ok, takin' the "kids" for a walk" their dead bodies were carried in a bag to an incinerator to be burned up! (contd.)
---iloveHim on 5/9/08

MORE~ How sick is that?? I would LOVE for all women who have abortions to walk their own babies to the incinerator and watch them burn? Do you think then that we would have so many abortions? If only we can show the young girls, images of their moving fetus' in their wombs or the early stages! May God save them...or they are all going to Hell for murder. (Thou shall not kill. Does anyone remember this commandment??) Oh that's right, we took the commandments out of public places. So sad!
---iloveHim on 5/9/08

What happens to any any victim is not for us to know that's taking Christ off the Cross, Why will y'all not read UR bibles and allow Christ be the Judge, worry that your own names are written in the Lambs Book of life and let the Immortal, invisible the Only Wise God do his Job come the end of this world at His Appointed time!
---Carla5754 on 5/4/08

Aborted babies go to heaven. 'Baptized by blood'. God never punishes a child for the sins of their's parents.
---Nicole on 5/3/08

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See Ecclesiastes 12.7. Psalm 146.4 shows that the body and spirit have different fates.
---frances008 on 5/3/08

Those who die without having the opportunity of hearing the gospel of Christ, would not have had the privilege of embracing the Father's word of salvation through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus, or the opportunity of willingly acknowledging and confessing Him as Lord of their salvation. They will be raised in the first resurrection and taught the salvation of God during the millennial reign of Jesus. They will be given the choice of accepting or rejecting that salvation.
---joseph on 5/3/08

Gordon, do you have scripture to support the claim that murdered babies go straight to heaven?
---Ryan_Z on 5/2/08

The consciences of people have been seared as by a hot iron. They live to regret it sometimes. I have seen a woman in tears who had had two abortions before becoming a Christian. We need to evangelize to nonChristians before they do such things. We need to make them alive in Christ in order to save these poor little babies.
---frances008 on 5/1/08

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This must be the saddest thread ever written in the history of this blog. Think of all those dear souls whose parents do not want them. How I would love to save one or more of them and bring him or her up in a loving home. How sad for the parents that they have had their consciences seared as with a hot iron, and cannot see their sin as murder of the worst kind. Have you ever seen a mother of a stillborn child. I have. It is the saddest sight in the whole world.
---frances008 on 5/1/08

The aborted babies go straight to Heaven. If the mother or father or whoever doesn't want them, GOD still does. They belong to Him! Pray for the mothers and fathers of the aborted ones, that they may be Saved, and be reconciled with their little ones in Heaven.
---Gordon on 5/1/08

Notlaw99: Abortion is wrong in God's eyes. Exodus 21:22-23. How can you say that the quality of life after a child is born is the only thing that counts? They are biomedical waste? Your heartless as well as the women that has an abortion done. So if a woman is 5-6 months along in her pregnancy and finds out that the baby might have a deformity she should just terminate her pregnancy? Your voting for Obama aren't you?
---Rebecca_D on 4/2/08

Children have yet to sin. They are in the same place as all dead, waiting for the resurrection. Until you reach the age of accountability (Jewish use age 12) you don't know right from wrong, you can not sin. Jesus said that you must be as the little children, for such is the kingdom of God, sinless.
---Chip on 4/1/08

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It is more important to Worry that YOur own name is written in the Lams book of life than to take Christ off the Cross and try to read his mind when the time has not yet come for him to Judge the WORLD!
---Carla5754 on 4/1/08

Abortion is murder. Even the world knows this. If a pregnant woman is murdered, they try to convict the murderer for two murders. Biowaste? Read Psalm 139:13. Aborted babies go to heaven. They never had the chance to choose or deny Christ.
---melann on 3/31/08

Matthew 18:10,"Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones, for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven." Based on this scripture. It is my belief that all aborted children go to heaven.
---Mima on 3/27/08

--notlaw99 You sicken me. It's people like you who are deceived, and pass on your deception to other foolish people.
---pgfdottie on 3/26/08

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From the point of conception we are a living soul. Abortion is murder and Christian people should be upset, but we become willing to accept anything, which is wrong on our part. Sin is sin no mater how we want to sugar coat it. We are saved by grace. The unborn that are murdered are covered by grace in other words saved as they have not yet reached the age of accountability.
---Brent on 3/26/08

Pharisee, I do love discussing this with you.

Sorry bro, I don't.
I've been chastised for this reasoning for far too long by fellow bloggers, but my conviction stands that God is a God of reason and doesn't create people for Hell, that's foolishness that defies reason, for what glory does God receive in punishing those who never chose to transgress his law?
NONE, and they won't pay for a sin that's paid for, it doesn't even make sense.
---pharisee on 3/26/08

does the fall of one also taint the other?

Absolutely, we are born with base animal drives, but also (illicitly) with the reason and power to overcome those drives through close fellowship with God.
Even before Jesus came God was reaching down to man to reason with him and carve out a people for himself- those who took what they shouldn't have and gloried not in it, but in it's subjection to God were approved of him and their sin wasn't counted against them.
David declares this in the Psalms.
---pharisee on 3/26/08

Isn't that why we need new bodies?

corruptible puts on incorruption. were resurrected and changed, I don't remember reading anything about new bodies.
---pharisee on 3/26/08

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If you seek Me (God) with all of your heart, you will find Me and finding God is finding God's answers."
The Lord then led me to hear teachings from anointed men of God, that these little ones are in heaven being raised by families that are alraedy in heaven. If you were God, would you send a baby to hell? God, in His Love, and in His Mercy knew man would murder babies, so He took them to heaven with Him and they are being taken care of by families who are already there.
---Donna on 3/26/08

God is the God of life wouldn't any kind of death be sinful or an abomination to Him?

Not when it comes as a natural consequence assigned by him to his law -NO.
---pharisee on 3/26/08

I haven't changed my position, these things were written the last time this topic came up.

"The transgression of Adam doesn't merely result in natural death"- I agree. It also results in people alienated from God spiritually, but you have to ask yourself WHO made this to be so or allowed it, and is that itself "the condemnation" to Hell.

I contend that if it were NO ONE would be created EVER. God has provided a means of salvation even before Jesus came.
---pharisee on 3/26/08

A Man's son is not called to pay for his father's sin, Adam's sin WAS paid for and forgiven so there's no punishment left to be handed out for that.

The consequence remains- we are born spiritually darkened and alienated from God not only tempted but naturally inclined to all types of sin, and in this we need a savior.

No one needs Jesus to save them from Adam's sin, they need Jesus to pay for THEIR SIN, being born is not one of them or God makes sin.
---pharisee on 3/26/08

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#1 Pharisee, I do love discussing this with you. Appearantly you have been doing some thinking on the subject and I see you have changed your line of reasoning, slightly. I like this:

"Natural death is the penalty for Adam's sin."
---Ryan_Z on 3/26/08

#2 However, it makes me think, "If the transgression of Adam only resulted in 'natural death' and that 'natural death' has no effect on the soul of man, then why Did Christ come to redeem souls?" Since the soul and the body are so intimately connected does the fall of one also taint the other?
---Ryan_Z on 3/26/08

#3 Isn't that why we need new bodies? Because this body is sinful and our souls are weak without the power of the Holy Spirit to avoid the lusts of the flesh? Isn't that what made Christ's soul so unique? He was able not to succumb to the desire of the flesh? Didn't He succeed where no other man could? And, since God is the God of life wouldn't any kind of death be sinful or an abomination to Him?
---Ryan_Z on 3/26/08

If all babies that are murdered go to heaven then baby murder is the greatest tool of slavation bestowed upon the kingdom of heaven by man. If the murdered babies are judged by God then we will remain within biblical teachings and say it is God who shall decide their fate. Of course if one believes in universal reconcilliation rather then the perverse sadist god of many denominations then we can truly see God's glory in all things and we will not have the question of where murdered babies go.
---Ryan_Z on 3/26/08

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Notlaw: Biomedical waste? That makes me ill. I had 2 stillbirths and they were fully formed tiny babies, NOT waste material! That is truly a sickening thought.
---NVBarbara on 3/25/08

** The quality of life after a Child is born is the only thing that counts.**

So if he isn't going to have a high quality life (decided by whom with what criteria?), the child doesn't deserve to live or even be born.

Is this what you are saying?
---Jack on 3/25/08

If we really believe the unborn are people the same as us, then I'd think we have reacted to the killing of three thousand unborn, the same as we reacted to the killing of about three thousand people in the Trade Center attack.

I "suspect" people do NOT really deeply believe the unborn are really people, considering how leaders, here in the U.S., have been so intent on going after Osama Bin Laden, yet have N-O-T been effectively defending our unborn citizens.
---Bill_bila5659 on 3/25/08

Nobody goes to hell for dying a natural death, observe:

Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

In the day that they ate of tree all races of men died spiritually to God and could not abide his presence.
It's through a life in a fallen state that one receives the condemnation, the multiplication of the sin of Adam and subsequent denial o God.
---pharisee on 3/25/08

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Entrust them to God's mercy.

He's the only one Who can sort the matter out properly.
---Jack on 3/25/08

1. Abortion was mandatory under Judaism if the life of the mother was threatened, actual life takes presidency over potential life.

2. There are problem pregnancies that should never come to full term. The quality of life after a Child is born is the only thing that counts. When this is questionable terminate the problem before it's born this is Christian and ethical.

3. Aborted fetus have never been independent life forms or breathes the breath of life, they are simply Biomedical waste.
---notlaw99 on 3/25/08

It makes sense that if coming to Christ is done of reason and thought through repentance, and the penalty of hell is doled reciprocally, through an abject denial of Christ, that one incapable of deciding this for him/herself is excused.
Others draw different conclusions, and I'm sure you'll be bombarded with dogma that "all have sinned"---True, but consider the condemnation of hell (John 3:19) to the condemnation of all men to a natural death.
Natural death is the penalty for Adam's sin.
---pharisee on 3/25/08

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