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Do You Believe The Rapture

I believe the "rapture" is described in first Thessalonians 4:17, "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." What do you believe this scripture describes?

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If you read on from that scripture, it is talking about the second coming of Christ.
---jody on 6/14/08

and so shall we ever be with the Lord---the gathering up of the Saints and Martyrs, the desciples who were sure of thier salvation and a place in the Kingdom of God. To rule and reign with Christ for a thousand yrs. Not all of us ae going to qualify for a position with Christ.There is a day of Judgement for those not caught up, itYes, there is a second resurection. Most of humanity will be saved in HUMAN form.
---Danelle on 6/14/08

This scripture describes what will happen when
Jesus returns to gather His children.It will be a noisy and visible event seen by all!!
No SECRET RATURE! It can not be found in the Bible. PR.
---Pierre on 6/4/08

Janet_HI, Good Job,
Luke 21 is the same thing as Matt. 24, Just in his words.
I Like Matt. better since he was with jesus, Luke came around after Jesus's Res.
What I like about Matt. to is,
It says that the Gen. That see's the fig tree Blossom, WILL NOT pass away, BEFORE His Return, That Gen, has almost past, Not many of them alive that saw it Happen in 1948!
ALL things will be fulfilled Before that happens.
So watch & Pray Always.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/4/08

I do also believe in the "rapture". And more evidence is found in Mathew chapter 24.
My Pastor just this last Sunday spoke on this, stating that the latin word for caught-up is rapture.
And in the twinkling of an eye.
We are Blessed.
---janet on 6/3/08

"come up hither."

You take a little phrase to mean the rapture. The first was directed to John only. The second was directed to the witnesses.

How much presecution will you endure until you start cursing God? The tribulation is for the end-time Christians to endure until the end. Rising in the first resurrection is an honor to those Christians who can endure. Heaven awaits those who trust God for protection. Get strongly rooted in the Word now. I pray that all of you God's safety.
---Steveng on 6/2/08

I think this scripture describes the second coming of the Lord. But just because those who are alive and remain are translated, that sure doesn't mean that it's secret, or that life on this earth continues as normal with believers gone. I dont read that anywhere. Remember what Jesus said about his second coming, comparing it to lighting flashing all the way from the east to the west. And Paul speaking of the trumpet of God and the shout of the archangel. Dont know how anyone could miss it :-)
---Todd1 on 6/2/08

The Luke 21:36 verse.
The verses before this one,
Jesus had just told them that the Temple would be destroyed(Not 1 stone Upon another,
70 AD.Titus)
and Israel scattered, But that wasn't The End Yet.
Wars,Famine,Pest. & Death(4 Horsemen),
The Fig Tree(Israel)Bossoming(becoming a Nation AGAIN)Which happened in 1948...

These are the End Time things That JESUS said WE "COULD ESCAPE", IF we Watch & Pray Always.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/2/08

1 Thess 4:17there is NO Rapture,{there will be a gathering,when the 7th trump sounds}go up to 4:13 he is talking about where the dead are,that is the subject:Must follow
3) & make sure ARTICLE is Present
---Gabby on 6/2/08

This scripture describes the "Rapture" of those believers who are alive when Christ comes for His Church.
---Nadine on 5/28/08

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted WORTHY to ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/11/08

Steveng this statement was made to the Jewish people. "Eight, why would Jesus command the Christians to flee if they are going to be raptured without harm

Not true ...Christ was talking to His disciples NOT Jews who did not believe He was Messiah ...Christ taught His disciples so they would Teach Christians

The rapture is just a fantasy created by men with wild imaginations ...just like God instructed His people to FLEE in OT He will again with Christians BEFORE tribulation
---Rhonda on 4/11/08

Steveng this statement was made to the Jewish people. "Eight, why would Jesus command the Christians to flee if they are going to be raptured without harm?
---Steveng on 4/6/08"
---Mima on 4/8/08

Good Girl NVBarb...
Keep watching Sis.
SO many people have confused The Shout from our lord "Come up hither" with the 2nd Coming!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/7/08

I'm ready Susie and DDM! I have had dreams of being in the clouds passing stars and planets, what a feeling!
---NVBarbara on 4/6/08

Seventh, the verses that most Christians believe that pertain to the rapture can be easily plugged into the beginning, the middle or the end of the so-called tribulation period. Christians will be going through the tribulation much like all the other people who gone through tribulation in the past like the Israelites in Egypt during the plagues, Noah and his family, and all the remnants. Dont worry though if your faith in God is strong, He will protect you.
---Steveng on 4/6/08

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Eight, why would Jesus command the Christians to flee if they are going to be raptured without harm?
---Steveng on 4/6/08

Last, but not least, we will be warned about it before it happens.

So, forget about this rapture thing, about the age of the universe, about knowing how the Earth began, or when it will end, about dinosaurs, about "Whos on first, What's on second and I-don't-knows on third." Teach the Gospel that Jesus taught - the Gospel of the soon to come Kingdom of God and how to get there. Go out into the world and spread the Gospel. For the harvest is plenty, but the workers are few.
---Steveng on 4/6/08

This is a frivolous debate. But if you must, let's reason this out.

First, There is only One Judgement Day, not two. If people are raptured at the beginning, judgement has been pronounced, because the Christians were taken and the evil people left on Earth. But it is written that both the tares and the wheat will be harvested at the same time.
---Steveng on 4/6/08

Second, there is nothing new under the sun. No one in history was ever raptured. Jesus himself said no one has ascended into heaven. Neither Moses or Elijah will be the witnesses. God even says that he buried Moses in a valley. I suggest reading a phrase dictionary telling the many ways to say that a person kicked the bucket, bit the dust, he flew on the wings of the wind to the happy hunting ground, etc.
---Steveng on 4/6/08

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Third, Every time there was a catastrophe, Godly men and women were not raptured, but were protected by God while still on earth. Noah and his family, David and his friends, the Israelites during the plagues, etc. The Christians during the tribulation period will be protected the same way by the mark of God. All humanity is in the same boat and will experience the same thing, but Christians are protected.
---Steveng on 4/6/08

Forth, There are only two resurrections, not three. If there was a pre-trib rapture, there would be three resurrections - one at the beginning of the tribulation period, one at the end of the tribulation (to bring up the Christians and converted ones), and one at the end of the thousand year period. It's written that blessed are those who rise during the first resurrection. The second resurrection is at the end of the thousand year period.
---Steveng on 4/6/08

Fifth, Why have a tribulation if the Christians were taken up and the evil left on earth? Many Christians believe that they would rise before the tribulation to escape Gods wrath. But why would the dead be taken? Can the dead feel the wrath of God on Earth if theyre dead?
---Steveng on 4/6/08

Sixth, how can you Christians be so vain to think you are more special than the Christians and Godly people who died in all of history. Don't be afraid about what is about to happen during these end times for God promised to protect you from his wrath. Persecution, on the other hand, is what we will face. Are you willing to die for Jesus like all the other Godly people and Christians in the past? Now is the time to strengthen your relationship with God.
---Steveng on 4/6/08

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When a person dies, they leave the physical world.

Heaven is not a physical place.
---deb on 4/5/08

The Rapture IS a TAKING AWAY "Come up Hither"
7 days are in The Marriage,For 7 days the RAPTURED Bride will be in Heaven W/the Groom(Jesus),ON Earth these are the 7 yrs. of Tribulation,Half way thru the 7 yrs. the AC changes his Peaceful ways in which he comes to power, and the F.P makes the people that are left to worship the AC as God Himself!
the 2 Wit. Killed then rise,darkness falls upon the Earth, WE return W/Jesus!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/5/08

and hoooooray mima: for once you got it right..full marks for you ...Praise God you got it right...
---pop on 4/5/08

Hi, Rebecca . . . I enjoy answering things like this, more than once. New guest readers may see what we share on our perpetuatually (o: repeating subjects, which they would miss if these subjects were to stay in back blog files.

Rhonda, I have understood the term "Rapture" means Jesus coming back and resurrecting the dead, first, and then we who are still alive get resurrected, right off our feet (o: or beds, etc. Pre-trib. believers don't own this term. I use it to mean post-trib.
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/5/08

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Does our Apostle Paul believe in the Rapture? Then what term did he use for it?

"And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that

the resurrection

is already past, and they overthrow the faith of some." (2 Timothy 2:17-18)
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/5/08

How many times is this question going to be asked? And usually it is by the same people but asking in different ways. We all know that Jesus is coming back for his children. And that verse means just what it says. The dead in Christ shall rise first, then the ones remaining, (Christians) will leave and they'll meet Christ in the air. How else can one describe it?
---Rebecca_D on 4/5/08

Christ does not return twice ...Christ in this verse is returning AFTER Gods Wrath (tribulation has ended) to set up His Kingdom believe in the rapture would mean you contradict Gods Truth beleiving Christ returns here before the tribulation - then again somewhere else in scripture ...scripture doesn't support Christ returning again after this verse
---Rhonda on 4/4/08

(R2) Jesus says, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light," in Matthew 24:29. So, all will go dark >

next verse > "'Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.'" > all will go dark, then Jesus will shine so brightly out of the darkness above the earth. (R3) >
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/4/08

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(R3) > So, this will be done BIG, mima (o:

"'And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet," we have, next, in Matthew 24:30. And Paul does say "at the last trumpet" (1 Corinthians 15:52) > THIS trumpet will be "Immediately after the tribulation". So, "the last trumpet" will be post-trib., I would think (o: And the angels "will gather the elect", Jesus says.
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/4/08

The Rapture is when Jesus Christ returns to remove the church (all believers in Christ) from the earth. The Rapture is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. Believers who have died will have their bodies resurrected, and along with believers who are still living will meet the Lord in the air. This will all occur in a moment, in a twinkling of an eye.
---Court7646 on 4/4/08

Well, mima, before this scripture we have "the dead in Christ will rise first", in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 which is the previous verse. So I can see the dead Christians at Rapture time will be resurrected and rise to meet Jesus "in the air". THEN we who are alive, then, will also be resurrected, right off our feet into the air to be with them up there. > (R2) >
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/4/08

Please give one word in this passage--or within a few verses of it--that says it happens before the Tribulation.
---Jack on 4/4/08

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I chose to believe that the entire Bible is true and that we who are saved will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. I'm ready! Are you???
---Susie on 4/4/08

Mima, I believe it means exactly what it says i.e. that when Jesus returns those of us who are still alive (in this earthly body) and remain (in Him) will be taken to be with Him and will remain with Him for ever.
---RitaH on 4/4/08

On a christian website I use to visit,
the moderator said that the rapture was
devised by a feel good church in the 1800's
to give hope to the flock. As more end time
events take place, I wonder if their will be one. "For in her were found the blood of
the saints". Revelation
---michael on 4/4/08

I choose to not know.

Enjoy your belief.
---pharisee on 4/4/08

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