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Revelation 11:3 "And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." Are the two witnesses the next/last Prophets to come before the rapture.

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The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
Luke 16:16

Where is the word rapture in the bible. I don't find it, but I find this: Colossians 1:27
To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Christ IN YOU is the hope of Glory.
---Angie on 8/15/08

Joy_Good Job!
Keep your wick trimmed, He's coming for us!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 8/11/08

Does it matter? My Dad spent hours on end time teachings. Who were the two witnesses? The final trump? HOURS! Now he is dead..did it matter? NO. How many people get saved with all this talk...very, very few! In my Dad's case..0. But we have men that make a living on TV with all this teaching...and 99% of the time they are WRONG!! If you read Leviticus it said that anyone that prophesied something and it did not come true they were to be stoned. I am not advocating that...but it sure would make you a lot more careful about saying.."Thus says the Lord!...
---melanie on 7/14/08

Help: Where in Revelation is the rapture mentioned?
---Bobby3 on 7/13/08

the way it looked was as if you were saying these we two different 7 year periods. my apologies
---evangelistjerry on 7/13/08

evangelist jerry - I may be wrong but I wrote as I was led by the Spirit of our lord . read Rev 11- 2: "..Gentiles.And they will tread the court forty two months."( 42/12 =3.5 yrs -calculation mine). Read Rev 11: 3 - and I will give power to my two witnesses , and they will prophesy, one thousand two hundred and sixty days ( 42x30=1260). Hence the total tribulation period is 7yrs. The Revelation is for both, i.e. the physical children of Abraham , and the gentiles or born again christians who are not caught up in the rapture ( the foolish virgins who came without oil) and will have to die as blood martyrs ) Rev 13 : 16 -18 .
---Joy on 7/13/08

please show us where you get Rev. 6-11 is 7 years and 12-19 is 7 years.
---evangelistjerry on 7/9/08

Joy_Praise God, only his revealing Spirit could have told you those things, and what a Joy it is to hear from the Spirit...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 7/9/08

The best way to understand the Book of Revelation is thus:
Chapter 1: Introduction, Chapter 2 & 3- Messages to the seven churches ( different church groups),Chapter 4 & 5: vision of the position of the various saints in heaven
Chapter 6-11- Things to come - 7 years tribulation from the Jewish Angle
Chapter 12-19 - Things to come - 7 years tribulation from the Gentile period( church) angle, chapter 20-22 : the Millenial Kingdom & Eternity
According to this the two witness will witness after the rapture of the church and in between the tribulation period of seven years . It will be their ministry that will make the Jews to go against the Anti Christ or the false Messiah.
---Joy on 7/8/08

I believe the two witnesses that prophecy for 1260 days means the word of God. The Law and the Prophets, the Old and New Testaments, however you look at it. The 1260 days is a significant number referred to many times in the scripture...also as a time, times, and half a time (1yr + 2yrs + 1/2yr = 3 1/2yrs = 1260 days). Incidentally the Catholic church was in power exactly 1260 years, during which time the word of God was surpressed (in sackcloth) but still prophecied.
---Todd1 on 5/21/08

Why concern yourself about who these two witnesses are? Apparently it's a debate that can't be won because of conflicting opinions. And most Christians will not recognize them when they do come. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Foresake the foolish gossipers, conspirators, and the debators and live and go in the way of understanding because these people create fear and division among Christians. Walk only in truth and preach the Kingdom of God for the time is at hand.
---Steveng on 5/20/08

Debbie_Jo: "Those witnesses may be two companies of people led by two prominent men."

Why do you add words to what Revelation says. These two witnesses work alone under the direction from God. God is not the author of confusion. Man is the one who interpretes the Bible incorrectly causing division among people. Stick with the truth, the gospel - the Kingdom of God and how to get there and preach it to everyone around you for the time is at hand.
---Steveng on 5/20/08

#4 Dan. 11:33 - These chief men correspond with the prophets Haggai and Zechariah, who are those instructors in Daniel's account if not the "two witnesses" in John's account? Those witnesses may be two companies of people led by two prominent men. Then those two witnesses will prophesy as John says - Luke 1:17. Men have tried to prove that Moses and Elijah actually will be those two prophets, but have considered what what Jesus said about Elijah - Matt. 11:14, 17:10-13.
---Debbie_Jo on 5/20/08

#5 It never was intended that the same Elijah should again come and prophesy, for John's ministry was the fulfillment of Mal.4:5,6 if the Jews had received him. We can't expect Elijah to come in person at the end of this age, but we can look for "two witnesses," whom God will choose for that day to give the final warning to the Jews "in the spirit and power of Elias" even as John the Baptist did. He will find two persons, or two companies, whom He will enable to perform His will.
---Debbie_Jo on 5/20/08

#1 These two witnesses are "standing" (ready to receive orders) "before the God of the earth." He calls them, "My two witnesses", because they will be His main representatives in behalf of Israel on earth. "These are the two olive trees," they will be anointed with the Holy Spirit, and will speak life and power to others. They are also called "two candlesticks (lampstands)," for they will be the spiritual light givers in Jerusalem at that time.
---Debbie_Jo on 5/20/08

#2 "Clothed in sackcloth" indicates the oppressive time of their prophecy, and the great need of those that hear them to turn in repentance to God. There are two witnesses because two is the least number of competent and invincible testimony. Compare Deut. 17:6, 19:15, John 8:17. In that coming day, two well-equipped Jews will be required to lift the scales from the eyes of their fellow Jews. Daniel foresaw these men as "other two" who shall speak in the end time - Daniel 12:5.
---Debbie_Jo on 5/20/08

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#3 We can get a clue of who they are in the return of the Jews from the Babylonian captivity. Zerubbabel was governor and Joshua was high priest in Jerusalem. Haggai and Zechariah were the Divine witnesses at that time. This is just as it will be when God starts to bring His people out of the thousands of years of blindness and captivity. "The prince of the host" - Dan. 8:11, corresponds with Zerubbabel, and the implied priest (for there will be sacrifices offered) corresponds with Joshua.
---Debbie_Jo on 5/20/08

The two witnesses are "Elijah" and "Enoch"...
Not Moses like some have been so erroneously taught...
These two witnesses will lie dead in the street "During the Tribulation Period"...
"Harpazo" meaning "being caught up" happens before the Tribulation Period...
The Word Rapture is not in the Scriptures...
---Elisabeth on 5/20/08

You are right Jerry, I fully support your reply to Rev 11..those 2 wits are the Old n New Testaments....some have not studied and understood their Bibles well..sorry guys..V4 tells of the 2Candlesticks and 2 Olive Trees/Bible foretelling us these things and its up to us to hold onto God's goes on to tell how God will save those who persevere .. and those who obeyed man instead will end up with the wicked..these 2 witnesses has nothing to do with man prophets...its God's Word we must hold onto..
---jana on 5/20/08

I am not sure about this rapture thing. There are many different opinions including that only the evil ones are taken out of the world, and that Jesus makes two returns. I think God does not wish us to try and be too clever in prophesying the future, but to try to look at the signs of the times. That is what he condemned people in his time for, that they could tell tomorrow's the weather from the sky, but failed to recognize what was going on in front of their noses.
---frances008 on 5/19/08

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frances008: "...still at your work trying to discredit me?"

You already discredit yourself by getting caught up in the things of this world by spreading your gossip, your conspiracies, your debates that can't be won.

Even if the conspiracies were true (most of them aren't), you cannot change end time events from happening. Christians are only to preach the truth - the Kingdom of God and how to get there.
---Steveng on 5/19/08

DDM, you are in league with the likes of John Hagee, who is determined to chase all Jews to Israel where they will be slaughtered. Does that sound like I am against Israel? I know Israel is important to the Pope for some reason. The leaders of the world bow to the Pope and do his bidding. Israel knows it has NO friends in the world, because America continually arms her foes.
---frances008 on 5/19/08

DDM, you are becoming difficult to follow. What are you talking about?

Jesus said 'It is finished.' These are not prophets, Jesus was the last one. These are only witnesses. They will come at the end of time. Why do you worry about the future witnesses so much when these things are all completely irrelevant to your salvation. Yes, read Revelations and get what you can from it, but remember it is written in code because John was in exile on an island and being closely guarded.
---frances008 on 5/19/08

Tammy_You have it EXACTLY Right, Now! he he
I was going to tell you it was Elijah,
but alot of people take correction Poorly
sometimes and i did'nt want to cause anything over a name, But i knew who you meant.
Thanks for speaking truth...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/19/08

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Sorry, in correcting myself, I realized I typed Elisha... I ment Elijah was taken up... Elisha got the double portion from God. So Elijah and Enoch will be the two witnesses in Rev. At least that is believed amoung many biblical scholars.
---Tammy on 5/19/08

Read your Bible frances008!
Because UNLESS the Persians(Iranians) & the Russians, China, Eqypt,Syria, ect. ect. ect.
ARE Illuminoti?
You Lie against the Word of God!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/19/08

The 2 witnesses here in Rev. are 2 prophets of the old testiment, who didn't die a physical death. According to the bible Enoch was taken Gen. 5:24, and Elisha also taken up by a whirlwind 2Kings 2:1. The bible says in Heb 9:27 "appointed unto men ONCE to die" The two witnesses are killed 3 1/2 years into the 7 year trib. These 2 are the prophets of old, to have yet to die their physical death.
---Tammy on 5/19/08

Your words condemn you, DDM. You speak falsehood and try to discredit me the whole time. I am trying to work to get Americans to open their eyes to the people trying to deprive them of all their freedoms. I wish for the Illuminati to stop plotting against Israel, America and the world, and interfering the whole time causing trouble between Jew and Palestinians when there was none for hundreds of years as the Neturei Karta will tell you.
---frances008 on 5/18/08

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It's amazing how people today can use their imagination to animate anything - a mouse, a sponge, even the Old and New Testaments. So, do we have two books "clothed in sackcloth"? To shut the sky to stop the rain? To have power over the waters to turn them into blood? "To smite the earth with every plague, as often as THEY (meaning people) desire." "And when THEY (meaning people) have finished their testimony." "and they stood up on their feet" so books have feet?
---Steveng on 5/18/08

Hi DDM, still at your work trying to discredit me? I wonder why that is! I wonder what great power I have on this forum that you should continually attack me whether it is relevant to the thread or not. Of course Jesus said to expect such treatment.
---frances008 on 5/18/08

frances008_You TAKE from the Book of Rev.
SO Much will be taken from you.
Read the 11th Ch.1-15 of Rev.and Understand it!

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another, because these TWO PROPHETS tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/17/08

18 For I testify unto EVERY man that heareth the WORDS of the prophecy of THIS BOOK, If ANY man shall ADD unto these things, GOD shall ADD unto him the PLAGUES that ARE written in THIS BOOK:
19 And if ANY man shall TAKE AWAY from the WORDS of the BOOK of THIS PROPHECY, GOD shall TAKE AWAY his part OUT of THE BOOK of LIFE, and OUT of THE HOLY CITY, AND from the things which ARE written in THIS BOOK.

Just think about what YOU'VE said:
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/17/08

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I'm starting to think you say alot things to get people to give you Bible verses, SO you don't have to READ!
Why do i think this?
Because, you'll say something that isn't Biblical, Then people load you W/Scripture and then it's Well im JUST learning on the cusp or in a haste or this or that!
My Brother, Your Lord says To know your calling and make it sure, Before you just start going out and running your mouth,otherwise you'll end up doing Exactly what your doing, Spreading FALSE Doctrine.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/17/08

frances008_You sure are sure of Yourself!
Like I said I think you a Muslim in Christian clothing.
You seem to agree with their philosophy, America is Big Satan & Israel Little Satan!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/17/08

Alan of UK: Great post!
---jerry6593 on 5/17/08

No. The two witnesses were the Old and New Testaments which secretly witnessed during the 1260 years of papal domination (538-1798 AD). As for prophets in the last days:

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
---jerry6593 on 5/17/08

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My reasoning is,We all know that the AC rules for 7 yrs.
and that the days of the 2 Wits. are 3 1/2 yrs..
We also know that the AC puts them to death & on the 3rd day they rise from the dead in front of everyone,
and then a Earthquake & Darkness.
Then shall the World SEE the Glory of our Lord Coming, And the Brightness shall be as the Morning Sun.
I'm a Pre-mid Trib. Rapture man.
This means I Believe it happens around the begining of the 7 yrs. BUT before the Last 3 1/2
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/16/08

The Bride WILL NOT be here During The 2 Wits. 3 1/2 yrs. on this Earth.
As we all know the AC & F.P start the 666 marking 3 1/2 yrs. into his rule.
This is when the 2 Wits. come around.
And we also Know that the AC & F.P are thrown into the lake When Jesus returns and starts the 1000 reign.
After ALL that has happened on Earth During the 7 yrs.,God Still gives man ONE last Chance to turn to him,UNLESS you've taken the Mark or worshipped the Beast!
THATS, A Loving God!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/16/08

No, there won't be any more prophets. Jesus was the last. (I never heard such rubbish in my life as the claim that there will be more prophets.) Sure there will be lots of false prophets. Sure there will be people able to know the truth amidst all the lies, and be able to understand the true state of the people spiritually. But no more big names, Jesus was the final warning to mankind.
---frances008 on 5/15/08

I believe they come The last Half of the AC's 7yr. reign, he puts them to death,rise 3 days later, Earthquake, Jesus sets his Feet on Mt., the Ground splits to the east gate pushing all the Graves from that area, pass thru the East Gate, The AC & F.Proph. are cast into the lake, satan is bound, Jesus sets up His Kingdom in Jerusalem for 1000 yrs., Satan is set free to gather man & come against us, God devours them fr. Heaven,
J-Day,The New Jerusalem & W/God forever more.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/14/08

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2 Witnesses are the Old & New Testament, the Word of God instructing us to take note of what is going take heed that your lamp is full of oil and ready for the is God Himself..not man..
---operator on 5/11/08

did their enemies see them raised from the dead and ascend into heaven as the rest of the prophecy reads,
Rev. 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies beheld them.?
---evangelistjerry on 5/5/08

Part #2
You see, this scripture says point blank that THE 2 witnesses will be seen by their enemies coming back to life and ascending into heaven, this part did not happen, therefore this is not that prophecy fulfilled, show me 1 prophecy in the bible that was considered fulfilled when only part of the prophecy happened.
---evangelistjerry on 5/5/08

Since we are on prophercy,lets do another.
"And the sea looked like the blood of a
dead man and every living creature died"
Remember when Saddam released the oil in
the Persian Gulf? I watched as millions of
fish and birds floated on the black goo,
dead or dying. John is trying to describe
the effects of a modern day oil slick.
---Michael on 5/5/08

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Yes, these are the men. They changed water
to blood(reporters show fountains spewing
blood). They close the heavens so it won't
rain(reporters talk about severe drought),
they will be killed, their bodies not put
in graves(two men stoned covered with rocks)
All the world will see them.CNN
---michael on 5/5/08

Many things happen that look like they could be fulfilling prophecy, several hundred years ago a volcano erupted so massive that is made the sun look black as sackloth and the moon as blood, but we know this was not the 6th seal. one last time michael, did these two men raise from the dead after the 3 1/2 days and ascend into heaven were every one could see?
---evangelistjerry on 5/4/08

part 2 read Rev. 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies beheld them. Did anyone see them ascend into heaven?
---evangelistjerry on 5/4/08

Alan_Daniel's books/letters are dated (6th Cent. BC).
2500 yrs. ago the Angel that revealed those things to him ,said , Close them up because they would'nt be understood until the End Times.

Not UNTIL Israel became a Nation in 1948, Could Parts of His Scripture EVEN be Excepted, Because there was NO Israel.
It's Just as Daniel,Ezek.,Jesus & John Said it would be.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/3/08

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They will close the heaven so it want rain.
(reporters talk about severe drought),They
will change water into blood(reporters show
outside fountains spewing blood), They will
be killed,and their bodies not put in graves
(two men lying in the street stoned to death)
The whole world will see them. On CNN.
I don't second guess God. I match bible
prophercy with news events. Three days later earthquake kills 7000 in city.
Yes to your question.
---michael on 5/3/08

But God never allows Himself to be without a witness. The very period of the trampling down of Jerusalem will be the time of their testimony. [just a thought] I wonder why Jerusalem is mention in such a way: Could it be because of the torture and murder of God's Son? People has different ideas on who the witnesses are, but most believes that it will be>>Moses and Elijah.>>The answer to your question, praise God, is YES.
---catherine on 5/3/08

Michael ... The fulfilments to prophecies have been going on for 2000 years now. And for 2000 years now people have been expectig the end to come shortly.
But you like so many others are trying to second-guess God. It will happen when he wants it to happen, and we are told it will be unexpected
The important things are to know it could be this next second, and to live as if it will be.
I wish I was able to do that. Father forgive me, and God give me grace from now on.
---alan_of_UK on 5/3/08

Michael please yes or no, are you saying these two men covered with rocks were the two witnesses spoken of in Rev? yes or no
---evangelistjerry on 5/2/08

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You know when the bible says something
is going to take place and the news event
take place, I am amazed at how many
christians say,oh thats not it.
I think one of the problems is many
want to put of the lord's coming to
somewhere in the future when it is
knocking on the door.
---michael on 5/2/08

Lets take an example: A christian family
is buying their home. They have good jobs,
two cars and a boat. Little Tater is getting
ready to start kindergarden. Daughter Mer Lizzy is getting ready to start college.
They don't want Jesus to return and interrupt
their lives, not now.
---michael on 5/2/08

Michael, I hope your not trying to say these men were the two prophets spoken of in Revelation.
---evangelistjerry on 5/1/08

News event, AUG. 1990 on cnn. People going
by in black sackcloth. Reporters talk about
severe drought in area. Fountains spewing
forth blood shown. Two men covered by rocks,
shown stoned to death. Three days later earth
quake hits. Iranians say 7000 killed in city. Perfect match for CHAPTER 11 REV.
---Michael on 4/29/08

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They will go to a place called Sodom
and Egypt. Some say it is Isreal. But
why would God call the place Sodom and
Egypt. I saw a news event a few years ago
that matched this event.
---Michael on 4/29/08

jody_theres more Alot Info. than that about them in the Bible!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/29/08

You assume that there is a limit to the number of prophets and that there is a rapture:) What we do know is that these prophets will appear before the second comming and great and glorious day of the Lord. The rest is speculation:) Keep your focus on the important things like a relationship with Jesus.:)
---jody on 4/29/08

11:4 These witnesses are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth. So look up psalms 119:105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet ( word is a lamp being the key ) meaning two lampstands are his words old/new testament. Oil is the holy spirit look up Zechariah 4:2-4:6 revelations 4:5 too long to put it in here
---Ramona on 4/29/08

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Eph 4:11, 1Corin 12 speaks of governments, gifts ...Christ will give two men on earth these positions

Zech 4:14 ...These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the LORD of the whole earth

Rev 11:3 ...Christ says He will give power unto my two witnesses

The witnesses preach throughout the tribulation

Christ doesnt return until AFTER the tribulation (1Corin 15:52, 1Thess 4:16) to gather those who flee tribulation and live through and resurrect the dead
---Rhonda on 4/28/08

Rebecca D_Good Job, THAT is the Absolute true Word of God!
God Blessed you!
However, I don't know if They'll be sent or the form of their Spirit as it was with Elijah & John T. Baptist.
Anyways, I can't wait!
Been waiting & praying for 35 yrs. for that day!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/28/08

These two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah, because they are the only two that has not seen death. And everyone is appointed to die once. Can't be Moses cause he already died. These will be prophets from God. They will be to sent to earth to give warnings to the people who don't belong to God. God will give them power to cause famine, sickness and to shut heaven up.
---Rebecca_D on 4/28/08

Revelation 11:7 says this,"And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them." I do not believe we should say, they were murdered by stoning.
---Mima on 4/28/08

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#1 We can get an idea of who these two are when we look at the return of the Jews from the Babylonian captivity. Zerubbabel was made governor in Jerusalem, and Joshua was made high priest. Haggai and Zechariah were the prophets or Divine witnesses, at that particular time. This is just as it will be when God begins His work of bringing His people out of the 2000+ years of blindness and captivity. "The prince of the host" - Dan. 8:11, corresponds with Zerubbabel.
---Debbie_Jo on 4/27/08

Elder_28 yrs. old?
"28" is How many countries that belong to the E.U. now, Not how old I am.
Ha Ha Ha your to funny!
I'm about to be 47.(thank you though)
Theres going to be a Solar Eclipse on my B-Day this yr. (Aug. 1st)
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/27/08

Hey, Duane_Dudley_Martin, who is going to listen to a 28 year old that talks like that?
---Elder on 4/27/08

Yes to the ?
I was 12, I asked God if it Possible, let the Spirit of Elijah come upon Me as with John T. Baptist.
That I would stand in the face of the AC & Proclaim His Name to ALL that's left.
Alot of people I told(1974) that Europe would Rise & Unite & Become the Most powerful form of GOV. THE WORLD'S EVER seen, They Did'nt Believe Until the B. Wall came down, and more Now that it's grown to 28.
WHO's going to Listen to a 12 yr. old?
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/27/08

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Carla5754, These two come in about the middle of the Tribulation. One may be Moses and one maybe Elijah or Elisha. They preach the Gospel. They are murdered by stoning and lay in the streets for 3 days. Then their dead bodies resurrect and they ascend into heaven.
---Elder on 4/27/08

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