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Churches Of Revelation

As concerns the seven churches of Revelation, which of the churches are we presently in?

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I have only one disagreement. Steveng said to read Revelation through the eyes of a child and that there is no deeper meaning to the Bible. Well, Jesus spoke in parables. It is mainly for mature Christians to understand. We all know there are mysteries in THE WORD that are only shown to mature Christians through the Spirit. What does this mean? Well, not through the eyes of a child, BUT through the Spirit. This is how we are to read the Word of God. I don't know about anyone else, but I always pray before I read The Word. I thank God, and then I ask for HIS wisdom. To let me see what He wants, not what I want. God Bless!!
---ginger on 9/24/08

It's easy to put people into certain catagories. Our society today has trained people into this way of thinking. The truth is you can fit any man from any period of time in history into any one of the seven churches.

As I posted earlier, the seven churches are nothing but locations of groups of Christians. As you read the NT, you'll find that the apostles had problems with Christians in other locations similar to the churches in Revelation.

Today's denominational churches (having their own traditions, ways of living and bible interpretations) are the downfall of man. Denominational churches are a product of Satan causing the great falling away from the faith.
---Steveng on 9/17/08

We are presently exiting the Laodicean era and beginning the Philadelphian era. These are seven different eras (periods in history) in which these "churches" (congregations) had the true word of God and had the responsibility to live it and teach it to all mankind (humans), but failed to do so due to vanity, deception, self-righteousness, or combinations of these, Except for the Church (congregation) of Philadelphia, which is to prophesy the truth to the world just before and during the time known as the Tribulation.
---Doug on 8/25/08

James, I regret that you don't believe I have a clue when I actually do understand what these seven churches represent in regards to all of Christendom. The problem being, a lack of time or space to properly explain it all. So I will let you think what you will and let God know what He knows.
---Debbie_Jo on 7/14/08

Why are the 7 churches addressed in Revelation not taken as 7 literal churches that existed when John wrote?
---Bobby3 on 7/13/08

I believe the seven chuches symbolize your personal character in Christ. God said "you are the church" not the building you attend. So if I'm the church what type of christ like character do I have within me. Therefore, God describe the chracteristic of each church and you need to be honest with yourself to see what church you are in. And take heed to what the spirit says to do or not to do. Because He is coming back for the church.
---Katrina on 7/13/08

some are not in the church, and some are in synagogues of satan.
---Eloy on 6/19/08

Debbie, you might want to read the first verse of Revelation over. You made a nice try, but you have no clue as to what the real truth actually is. I say this because of your error right off the bat. God the Father REVEALED THE TIME AND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, to His Son Jesus, who by the way did NOT personally appear to John, but sent an angel to John to tell him the same thing so that John could write it down so that ONLY THE SERVANTS living in the last generation (144K) could/would be the ones that would understand and therefore become sealed by God (the coming like a thief) before the tribulation so that they (the Holy People) testify to the truth to the world about the 'gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven'. I hope this helps.
---james on 6/19/08

James, There are Saints who are sincere in their Relationship with GOD. They do not have "one foot in the world, and one foot in the Kingdom". The Laodicean saints are compromisers who play with the fire of sin. They love the lustful pleasures of this world, they love money and material excess. Their sights are fixed on this world and NOT on GOD and His Kingdom. GOD bids them to turn away from their sinful ways and get back to their First Love, GOD Himself, His Son YAHUSHUA (Jesus Christ). And then begin walking in Holiness. For the Bible clearly states that WITHOUT HOLINESS, NO MAN SHALL SEE THE LORD. NOR enter Heaven. And this Holiness is NOT automatically "imputed" by the Blood of YAHUSHUA. Saints are to work out their own Salvation with fear and trembling, by being straight with GOD, and OBEYING Him and, at least, TRYING to walk in Holiness daily.
---Gordon on 6/18/08

Tammy: "There is a deep meaning to be understood..."

There are no deep meanings. All secrets are kept from the worldly people and are revealed by the Holy Spirit to the Christians. The churches in Revelation are nothing but the locations of certain groups or Christians who picked up false doctrine. The same as the people today. Read the first four chapters of Revelation through the eyes of a child. You'll have a completely different perspective on the meaning.
---Steveng on 6/17/08

#1 - The Lord sovereignly made this revelation of His Son known to these seven churches, and they represent all Christendom during this Church Age. They have a dispensational relationship. Each one stands for a certain period of church history: Ephesus introduces the age, and covers about the first three hundred years. Smyrna figures all full overcomers who die during this age. Pergamus reaches down to about the 16th century, where Thyatira and Sardis begin.
---Debbie on 6/17/08

#2 Philadelphia and Laodicea stand for diverging features of the present time.
These assemblies relate to one another as to their religious characters and worth. When Ephesus as a body refuses to repent, the candlestick which figures the really spiritual saints is removed and becomes the assembly of the Smyrnians. What remains of the Ephesian assembly constitutes the assembly in Pergamos, in the same sense. Degeneration increases, for evil doctrine will prevail if allowed.
---Debbie on 6/17/08

#3 Again, the congregation fails to repent, therefore, the more spiritual ones, the overcomers in this grade, are separated by the Divine hand, and they are known as "the church in Sardis," which means "escaping" or "prince of joy." What remains of Pergamos constitutes "the church in Thyatira," figuratively. Thyatira speaks of Catholicism and Sardis speaks of Protestantism. Philadelphia stands before God blameless, without spot or wrinkle.
---Debbie on 6/17/08

#4 Philadelphis remains unblemished in spite of the worldly Pergamos condition and the lordly Thyatira condition and the empty Laodicean condition. Smyrna and Philadelphia are on the same level and are the full overcomers, Smyrna representing all believers during this age who fall asleep in Jesus in full victory, and they will share in the out-resurrection, and Philadelphia speaks of those who will live till Jesus sounds the trumpet and they will be the first to be translated.
---Debbie on 6/17/08

#5 Thus, there are three grades or ranks of believers outlined in these seven letters to the churches. If you study I Cor. 15:23, 41,42, you will see that Scritpure confirms ranks or orders in the body of Christ.
---Debbie on 6/17/08

Gordon, you said that some saints are here with us today, can you name one and give me their address and phone number? If someone is out there who has been sealed by God and therefore is sinless and believes, speaks and practices real truth (no lie in them), I for one would sure like to meet them!
---james on 6/17/08

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We are currently in the Laodicean Church Age. There are some Philadelphian Saints left, but they are in the minority in comparison. And the Laodicean Believers are NOT going up in the First Rapture of the Bride of YAHUSHUA (JESUS CHRIST). They will be Left Behind to endure at least part of the Tribulation. Price for living in Unholy Compromise.
---Gordon on 6/17/08

This question implies that 'we' are in that church. However, could not the 7 churches be the charector of the Kingdom of Heaven in the last days? And since the ten virgins are this new kingdom, then all 7 churches have to be about the ten virgins who are NOT the bride, but the servants who get the bride (from all religions) ready during the tribulation.
---james on 6/16/08

Good Job Tammy, It "is" the Spirit of those Churches that "live on" today.
It's in the RCC, The Baptist, ect. ect. ect. ect. ect...
And were warned not to be followers of their ways.
The Bride of Christ has been given "The Ways"
of her Husband and she listens to HIM!
Sheep know the Voice of their Sheppard.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/15/08

Remember, there are so many layers to the Revelations. I think the seven churches mentioned were the seven churches that existed, and also could very well be seven church ages.... But also further more, what church are you. In your personal life, walk with God. There are "seven churches" on the spiritual level as well. God works in multiple layers. The seen and the unseen. There is a deep meaning to be understood by studying the seven churches, historically and spiritually.
---Tammy on 6/15/08

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susieb,if the angels in heaven rejoice over a repentent sinner ,who are we not too?
---tom2 on 6/15/08

I believe in all of them.but mostly in the fall away category.
---tom2 on 6/15/08

For those of you who think the 7 churches in Revelation were the ones in Asia, and this is old stuff, consider this: The church of Sardis is sleeping when Jesus comes like a thief. The church of Philadelphia is sealed before the time of trouble (not a test) but will go through it. Laodicea has people that are in need of nothing (have faith, grace and love, but not the truth) and are told to sell it to buy truth.
---james on 6/14/08

Susie: Soooo true. You said it well. They have become houses of the Apostacy.
---jody on 6/14/08

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Mima_The 7 churches that are talked about by John were 7 Churches in Asia(Ephesus, Pergamos,ect.)That went astray from the Teachings of Paul & The D's.
The Spirit of those Churches live on today,
For example: Lukewarm, unrepentant, eat things after praying to Idols,
Left 1st love,ect.
I think the Churches of today have ALL these Spirits of Err in them!
Its not a count down to What Church era were in.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/12/08

Its been a long time since I've studied these, but aren't we in the end-time luke-warm church that thinks we're wealthy and have need of nothing but are actually wretched miserable poor blind and naked? (rev 3:15,17)
---Todd1 on 6/12/08

Do you think it is self-righteousness when someone tells everybody when they lead someone to Jesus? Do you think it is something we should keep quiet?
---SusieB on 6/12/08

The "church" of today is becoming quickly like the one spoken of in Revelations. That's the one where people's hearts are growing cold and they are walking away from the gospel of Jesus Christ. This is very evident in the churches where truth is taught. Many so-called Christians are running to the mega churches who offer programs, worldly music and surrounds (youth areas that resemble bars), etc.
---Susie on 6/12/08

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I'm human, too. So, I am capable of any wrong that anyone else is guilty of. So, I can learn from what Jesus says to correct ANY church. *Somehow* I can fail or trespass in all areas. So, I can gain from what anyone gets for correction. Also, I benefit from however we are told by the Bible to live in God's love. I "even" can learn from what the Bible says specifically to ladies and kids (o: example, how it is good to have a "gentle and quiet spirit" (in 1 Peter 3:4).
---Bill_bila5659 on 6/12/08

Well, only you can answer that about your own church. I don't know what kind of church you go to now, so I can't say which church in Revelation describes the church you go to.
---Rebecca_D on 6/12/08

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