catherine, what do you think some of God's rights are?
And where do you get this idea?
And how are they under attack by a Nativity Scene in the Rotunda of the Capitol?
---Cluny on 9/4/10|
Well, they are going to pay for at. On the otherhand, in this country we all value our freedoms. What messes with my mind the most is this>>>GOD'S RIGHTS. Are being trampled upon left and right, up and down, and all over the place. The wicked man will pay, and pay dearly, my friends.+
---catherine on 9/4/10|
francis, why are you so offended by a visible reminder of the Incarnation and Nativity of our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ?
---Cluny on 9/3/10|
"Nativity scene, Christmas, Easter: When did God ever command these things.
Which Apostle ever did these things.
No christian can defend these practices with the bible as being christian." (francis)
Which Apostle ever:
1) Drove a Car
2) Used Public Transportation
3) Used a Computer to log on to Christianet
4) Used a stove to cook their food
5)........................the list goes on and on.
Do you see how silly your man made tradition of Sola Scriptura (very strict version of it) is?
---Ignatius on 9/1/10|
a sign by a nativity scene...a mosque at ground zero...is there a difference?
The Truth is becoming more evident, isn't it?
---aka on 9/2/10|
\\Christians spend way way too much time and money fighting over things that are not biblical or scriptural.\\
So do you, francis.
---Cluny on 9/2/10|
If a nativity scene is adding to, so then there is something you are doing to take away ?
A nativity is So much better to celebrate Jesus birth with than the dumb jingles bells, santa clause etc.
---Lawrence on 9/1/10|
Christians spend way way too much time and money fighting over things that are not biblical or scriptural.
Nativity scene, Christmas, Easter: When did God ever command these things.
Which Apostle ever did these things.
No christian can defend these practices with the bible as being christian.
So much for not ADDING to the word of God
---francis on 9/1/10|
For the atheist Are the ones that have super harden hearts & enslaved minds that have captured their understanding that Has gotten so sered. Thank God there is some hope for them.
The Nativity Scene Is Great.
It's better than santa clause, jingle bells etc.
---Lawrence on 8/30/10|
Barb: That teacher probably lost the law suit. I went to church with school board members here in Pa. They were from two different school districts, two were presidents of the boards. I taught junior high Sunday School and discussed these very things with my students. The school board members all agreed that it was illegal for the teachers to admonish students for their Bibles or religious clothing or jewelry.
---Trish9863 on 12/9/08|
Being a teacher, you'd know that better than I would Trish.
I just remembered a case in Texas some years ago where a teacher took bibles away from a couple of students and put them in the trash.
There was a lawsuit filed by the parents.
---NVBarbara on 12/8/08|
NVBarb: I hate to have to correct you, but kids can have their Bibles in school. Teachers cannot teach the Bible as fact, but kids can have and have had their Bibles in school. My daughter held Bible studies during lunch when she was in elementary school. There is no legal foundation for kids not being allowed to have their Bibles.
---Trish9863 on 12/7/08|
NVBarbara, very interesting story about the sign. The problem is that if there is only the natural world there are no rights only survival. Why would any non-believer care about hearts and minds. Talk about a waste of time!
No one should entertain any protest for or against any Nativity scene. Since there is only the natural world there is no reason for the atheist to care or to be offended with Nativity because nothing matters.
I wonder how atheists explain the inscription on the east side of the Washington Monument, designed to reflect the sunrise on its inscription?
Will they suggest we deconstruct the monument and the reflecting pool?
---larry on 12/7/08|
Nativity scenes, Menorahs and most things related to God have been taken away.
A kid can't have a bible in school. Some work places don't allow you to have one on your desk.
Complaints from customers if a store has anything "religious" so no more CHRISTmas displays so as not to insult some shoppers.
Should Christians complain that we're tired of Santa and snowmen?
Our 1st Amendment rights haven't been taken away, just deluted by the almighty dollar.
Good on ya' Leon, keep your scene in plain view, it's a witnessing tool!
Hallo Alan! How are you dear heart?
---NVBarbara on 12/7/08|
Should Christians really be surprised by the behavior of unbelievers? I don't think so. Actually, their staunch opposition (first & formost to God) unwittingly confirms & strengthens the Bible record.
In the world the contrast is always, light & dark, truth & untruth, good & evil. So what if there's an atheist sign next to the Nativity scene. Guess what! Christians live, work & play next to atheist everyday. So...
By the way, have any of you noticed the significant absence of the Nativity scene in your neighborhood, etc., during the Christmas season? I have, but prominently display mine. How about you? (Is. 9:6-7) AMEN!
---Leon on 12/7/08|
The First Amendment gives them as much right to express their lack of faith, as the Christians have the right to display their Nativity Scene.
---Trish9863 on 12/7/08|
I agree with post below, they have as much right to voice, or in this case display, their opinion as anyone else. No harm done. Jesus is irrevocably LORD.
---josef on 12/7/08|
NVB .... Hallo again1
Thanks for that
The last line contains just a little truth.
It's evident that some do have their heart hardened by religion.
---alan_of_UK on 12/7/08|
What? Stole their sign? Where'd they get that idea? If there is no God then there is no stealing. Everything is of the earth and earthly and belongs to each of us if there is no God.
Humruf.... I don't believe in sign stealers... so there, that's settled... no more problem.
---Elder on 12/6/08|
Someone stole their sign, but its been replaced.
The athiests who placed it there (with a permit) considers it their freedom of 'religion' or lack thereof.
It was placed next to a Nativity Scene in Olympia, Washington.
The sign from the Freedom From Religion Foundation reads:
"There are no gods, no angels, no devils, no heaven or hell.
There is only our natural world.
Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."
---NVBarbara on 12/6/08|
I think the atheists have as much right to freedom of speech as Christians. However, the way the sign describes people of faith is slanderous. Thus it seems inappropriate and disrespectful to place it next to a religious display.
---Donna66 on 12/5/08|
Equal expression I suppose?
I don't know a thing about it.
If we have the right to express faith others should have the right to express doubt or unbelief. That's American.
Again I don't know what the sign says, so I can't comment on that. But I guarantee if it was the birth of Mohammad we'd have all manner of folks screaming about the sign, and even a UN resolution to stop "religious defamation."
You ought to google that last bit.
---Pharisee on 12/5/08|