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I am 13 years old and attends a baptist church which says that women should not wear pants, makeup, jewelry, false hair and even fake nails because it says that in the bible. Is this true?

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 ---manisha on 5/17/09
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Manisha why spend money on makeup and other enhancement products? Many women start with a few minutes a day and many more spend more than 30 minutes of their time applying it Gods Word women who wore makeup were prostitutes ...less than 80 years ago makeup was not the frenzy we see today we draw to end of the age and return of Christ the world becomes MORE self absorbed

Many women forget that makeup IS NOT for THEM - it is for OTHER PEOPLE who see them is no different than lying is a false appearance ...women wear makeup to be accepted by their peers whatever age that may be

problem with enhancing looks one LOOKS AWAY from seeking The Father in heaven and more for approval of mortal people
---Rhonda on 7/22/09

God brought you into this world with natural beauty,I believe that God desires to look at even now is natural beauty,Not painted-plastered over with make-up mud, paint powder etc.,even the adorning of to much jewelry makes a Ladies look like Jezebels. There has been so many Ladies that look like they put on make-up with a paint-roller. Body piercings tattoos are gross. Deu where it says that Ladies are not to wear clothes that pertains to mans clothing. People say,ahhhh,that's in the O-Testament & don't believe that today. True story of Noah then there's David with Goliath even with others,dont you believe them stories?,they are in the O-Testament also. If your Not going to take & believe The Whole Roll,you canNot take it at all.
---Lawrence on 7/21/09



The church does not now in the future or ever did in the past want to mess your pure life up but you have an adversary the devil that most of these good doers do not and cannot indeed understand because their advice is to go against advice that cannot and will not kill you either spiritually, physically or mentally.

But follow the bible on keeping pure in Christ without the worlds examples even those that try to tell you it's okay, trust me young lady there is a great life that awaits you if you can without distraction serve the Lord is the beauty of his Holiness.
---Carla3939 on 5/27/09

Manisha:- Man made denominations impose their own laws and extend their own rules.Just like the Pharisees.The Prophet Isiah talks about modesty so as not to create attention to ones self appropriate dress is always the best attire when visiting The lord for it is Him you go to see, worship and pray to.If your heart is pure God knows the difference.
---MIX on 5/26/09

Manisha, you are a smart girl. You are using the good brain God gave you to figure things out for yourself. Do you think wearing those things makes someone a bad person? I don't. But I think when someone overdoes it, they might be trying too hard.

If you accept yourself for who you are, make-up or no make-up, you will be beautiful.
---Deb on 5/27/09

Carla ... I do try to understand you, but if you wish to think I don't that is up to you.

It is not surprising that I was the onloy one to reply to you, since it seems I was the one you were addressing.

And I can't see where on this blog I have added sarcasm at the end of my post.

Mine of 5.18 was not addressed to you, and was no sarcastic.

My next post was to say you had agreed with me, and to remind you that no-one is less sinfl than others.

And my next was agreeing with you that the incident was disgusting.

My last was to explain that I had not been sarcastic.

All thses posts do suggest to me that you may be looking to find offense in my posts when there is none, and imagining it.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/26/09


If you were trying to understand me you would add sarcasm at the end of your blogs when you address me. I explained the situation in truth, you were the only one to comment in the manner that you did. I'm tired of your answers when you do that!
---Carla3939 on 5/26/09

Carla ... I do not intend to be sarcastic towards you. I'm sorry if you think I have been

Nor do I attack you relentlessly ... I disagree on somer issues. I hoep you do not think I should not express myself when I disagree with you?

You have not hurt me in any way at all!!

But you see Carla you have just demonstrated your weakness ... You do not accept at face value my comment "How disgusting" about the spectacle yuo described .. you seem tho think it implied you had hurt me.

Why do you always interpret what I say in th worst possible way ... are you seeking to prove to yourself that I am persecuting you?

I don't think it is persecution when I try to conduct a civilised discussion with you
---alan8566_of_Uk on 5/24/09

Robyn, wearing weave is not a sin?

The majority human hair it taken from poor Asian countries where children male/female are shaven for the lucrative Hair industry by their own people and paid little for the exploitation of their tresses to please Western Society.
---Carla3939 on 5/24/09


You are growing up and may have a number of questions. Look no further than the bible - the word of god - for all of your answers.

Sometimes men will teach things that are not taught by god so you need to be armed with the knowledge of the scripture to know the difference between truth and non truth. And, pray to god to speak to your heart as you search for his truth.

1Tim 2:9 I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.
---wal_rev on 5/23/09

The bible says to be modest in all that we do. In dress and appearance, in all things. As a young girl learn how to present yourself in a modest way. If you wear pants don't wear them too tight and revealing, skirts,dresses etc..Wear makeup but not to look like a clown(be modest)Weave hair is not a sin but do it in modesty. Fake nails are ok. I don't see anything wrong with them.Christian women have feelings and needs,too. But we are to be holy and sanctified.
Your church is very legalistic and under bondage. If possible,leave this church and find one more in line with the teachings of Christ. God bless you.
---Robyn on 5/23/09


My point was to raise you awareness of your strong sarcastic attitude always towards me!

Now you understand what it feels like, do unto others what you would like others to do unto you.

I hope my object lesson teaches you that you too have the ability to hurt unrepentantly you have attacked me relentlessly since my misunderstanding of you several years ago and Now you must stop.

However it is not my nature to turn on you but if it gets the point across we can stop because this foolish banter and do something more loving and constructive with your time and advice,

Don't you agree!
---Carla3939 on 5/23/09

Carla ... How disgusting!!!
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/22/09


We as mothers in the church have a responsibility towards the young women to present ourselves in decently and in modest dress, that takes presidents over the way the world looks and presents its flock destined for the broad road of destruction.

Likewise the Older men in Church should be an example addressing the decline/shortage of men in Church pioneering campaigns to evangelise the much needed youth/men folk to balance the ratio of women now overtaking many churches that are having to take up the posts ordained for Men who have gone AWOL.

Or do you pass the buck for Labours because it does not include you?
---Carla3939 on 5/22/09

Yes that is right.There is alot of the bible that talks about these things.If I had my bible with me I could send you some verses and where to find them in your bible.
love in Christ
---robin on 5/20/09

I am ultimately through the blood of Jesus Christ a sinner saved by Grace. I do not desire to put myself up against anyone as you wrongly suggest but then if anyone is not in agreement with you they are hypocrites and do otherwise That's a fine bless you, all those that disagreed with the church rulings of my day said similarly the same things to others when challenged.

However years on are now poor examples and are nowhere to be found in church one would be foolish not to take serious church advice.
I merely show you example of disobedience do with it what you will.
---Carla3939 on 5/20/09

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she was aware of the problem she had a young child and the man in front of her could not miss what was going on she repeatedly pulled up her clothes regardless of knowing it fell quite low if you told her she would say she knew because her husband whispered in her ear and she pulled her skirt up.

It never stopped her from standing praying for someone else even though she was not not dressed appropriately. If she was unaware I would have been the first to tell he it was obviously not a problem to her, decked out in the weave ,false nails, make up and attitude, this is what the church is safeguarding against.
---Carla3939 on 5/20/09

Carla ... As I said the answer to the blog question is "NO" ... And you have not shown otherwise.

As to your third paragraph, I can't see the relevance of the incident you mention. I am sure no-one here would suggest the girl was properly attired, but also, I don't think many would have noticed it.

You say she was not aware of the problem & I wonder why you did not quietly go and help her?

Do you recall Jesus's story of the self-righteous man who prayed in the temple "Thank you God that I am not like this sinner next to me"?
---alan8566_of_UK on 5/19/09

Alan you say:

Nevertheless, the answer to her question "Is this true?" is NO

The point is the bible Is Specific in terms of a woman being shamefaced concerning, modesty sobriety and Vanity all of which those things are biblically underwritten through scripture if you are in touch with the word and the ''real world''.

I cringed in shame just the other week as such a person didn't even realise their undergarments were visible for all to see and stood praying for a young lady in the prayer line, she just casually pulled up her tight skirt each time it went below her waist everything outlined above was there apart from the trousers ''pant'' as were know it was visible too!.
---Carla3939 on 5/19/09

You can wear make-up and dress but don't over do it.

Sometimes we get so wrapped up with cloths for our Flesh bodies,we must remember to make sure that our Spiritual bodies need attention as well and clothed it with the Armour of God
---Gabby on 5/19/09

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Whilst I agree with those who say the questioner should obey the rules laid down by her parents and the church she belongs to, and that some of the things she lists may be inappropriate at her age ...

Nevertheless, the answer to her question "Is this true?" is NO

That does raise the point that her church, or the pastor, or her parents, are laying down rules, giving a false reason for those rules.

Whilst there may be good reasons for those rules, especially for someone of Manisha's age, it is wrong to say the Bible forbids those things.

If you can't trust them on this issue, what can you trust them on?
---alan8566_of_UK on 5/18/09

Read the Bible for yourself and interpret it for yourself. Get in tune with the Holy Spirit and see what He tells you to do.
---amand6348 on 5/18/09

Hi, I would advise you to do what your parents say, but keep in your mind what you truly believe. When you get older you can do what you want, regarding religion.
---sue on 5/18/09

The church is correct in advising you to be as modest as possible Yes the bible speaks on vanity added together with the other scriptures they are not far wrong.

Live, dress and behave to please God and stick to those rules given by your elders for your protection and guidance, it is better to steer clear from the things that can really persuade you into doing your own thing leading to a life of sacrifice towards a Christ, you will also partake in his glory at the end of your journey. Rebel and you'll soon be going through the Church door to a broken and corruptible World.
---Carla3939 on 5/18/09

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Manisha, i have two questions
first do you love your pastors and church? if you do then the law of love is the greatest one and you should not try to offend them. after all (unless your parrents oblige you) baptists do not force membership upon their adherents.
second. as a believer would it not be correct to obey God in all so when God says that women should be modest and soberly dressed, is it really hard to follow?
I myself am a pastor, and i have nothing against most things (accept the false nail, I personally think its disgusting) Still i must admit, no scriptures forbid the use of these things. however can you submit to your elders and consequently to God? God bless you and help you to make the right choise.
---Andy on 5/18/09

It's nice to look your best for God and your neighbour, and I don't see anything wrong with wearing the above after a certain age, but you are still very young. You are under the authority of your parents and the church you attend so you have to do as you are told. That is Biblical. Obey those in authority over you as long as it does not oppose the Bible.
---frances008 on 5/17/09

In the minds of many true Christians exists an understanding that God sets no rules, loves all, and requires nothing to accept his love. These "rules" are man made to structure obedience. Follow his true word, the bible, and know that living by these prophecies, are living in his true image. Thank you for questioning and sharing. God Bless you.
---Grace on 5/17/09

While you live in your parents' home you are to follow their rules. The Bible says that instead of being decorated up with fancy jewelry and stuff that you should be more concerned with the condition of your heart. Have you accepted Jesus Christ and that HE died on the cross for you? Are you living your life for HIM? That's what the Bible says to be concerned about rather than your appearance. Although the things that you asked about are not in the Bible, you still should obey your parents on this. Ask them to show you the scriptures that support these teachings. If you are not attending church with your parents, you can find another Christian church to attend. Most Baptist churches are not as strict as this one.
---SusieB on 5/17/09

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Hi, Manisha . . . You can look at 1 Peter 3:1-4 and see what you learn from this. This talks about being beautiful to God and pleasing to Him.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/17/09

Regrettably your church is making up rules that do not have a Biblical basis and this this will only get worse as time goes on. They are behaving like a mind control cult. I would suggest that you change your church affiliation at the earliest possible opportunity. Stick to mainline denominations out side of Baptist affiliations. If you can't do it now because of parental pressure do so when you are of legal age.
---Phil_the_Elder on 5/17/09

The scriptural teaching is that these things cannot make you beautiful, that true beauty is found in the heart.

The don't touch this don't eat that regulations are over and all they ever did was make spiritual retards out of people. It's time to outgrow that kindergarten idea that what we do or don't do can somehow make us clean/unclean in God's eyes.

Our redemption (if we haven't placed ourselves back under the law and in spiritual bondage) is in Jesus Christ's finished work on the cross. Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!
---Pharisee on 5/17/09

The Bible tells us to live modest quiet lifes. The church is probably attempting to focus on some things that assist one to live a modest life. However, those are the specific rules of your church to help, but not verbatim in the scriptures. IE these are just guidelines.
---Moderator on 5/17/09

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It does not say these things in scripture. They are man-made rules.
---Trish9863 on 5/17/09

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