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President Obama In Cairo Egypt

USA President Barack Obama gave a speech in Cairo, Egypt. He called for a "New Beginning" between Muslims and the United States. I'm not sure what President Obama means by the term "New Beginning". Comments?

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GOD is not the God of the Muslims. "Allah" is the Islamic god. They are not the same God. Abraham is the genetic father of the Arab peoples, but, Abraham is not related to the religion of Islam. Jerusalem is the capitol city of Israel. Israel was given to the Jewish race from GOD Himself. The Land of Israel is not to be parted. There will be a Curse from GOD upon those who defiantly part that Land. Obama, nor any other President, nor the Anti-Christ, will ever make peace in the Mid-East, that will only happen when YAHUSHUA (JESUS) returns! When did "JESUS" pray with Moses AND Mohammed? YAHUSHUA prays through no one outside of the ONE and True Living GOD.
---Gordon on 6/16/09

Okay, so like, the United States (of America) were founded on GOD's Principles. And, we are no longer what you would call a "Christian Nation". But, let's not even BOTHER to try to reverse that sad condition. Let's not bother. Let's, rather, begin to repress the American Christian's rights to Freedom of speech and Freedom of Religion, and INSTEAD, in it's place, let us embrace Islam! Let's do all that we can to let the Muslims know that they are respected, loved, and considered a welcomed part of us WHILE we let the Christian Religion continue to spiral down into Hell and let the religious Christian nuts all get corraled up into the newly-prepared concentration camps, 'cause GOD don't live here no more!
---Gordon on 6/15/09

NurseRobert, A Christian is someone who has repented of sin and evil and has accepted GOD's only Son YAHUSHUA (JESUS) as their Saviour and Lord. And who loves GOD and follows His Holy Ways. GOD loves everyone and He dearly loves little children. GOD has commanded His people that "Thou shalt not kill." Christians are not to kill people. All Vengeance belongs to the LORD alone. GOD set up the civil authorities to "bear the sword" to execute justice. Abortion is the murdering of unborn babies. Obama is all for Abortion. By supporting Abortion, he is advocating the acts of Abortion performed in America and across the Globe. He is not following GOD's Ways. Therefore, Obama is lying when he says that he is a "christian".
---Gordon on 6/12/09

Ironic isn't it? Europe has begun to reap the fruits of Socialism, and they don't like it. But we have lurched far to the left.

Brits, Germans and the Chinese (who are buying most of our debts) among others, are all warning us that our overspending will lead to disaster. The truth about "socialized medicine" is coming to light, with Canadians and Europeans warning against it. It has not served them well.

But Obama says he's following the only "proven" (when?) way out of recession and that nationalized medicine is absolutely essential. Strange that our leader, who prides himself on being a "citizen of the world", dismisses this advice from our allies and friends in the world.
---Donna66 on 6/8/09

BRUSSELS Center-right parties hailed European Parliament election victories as a continent-wide vote against stimulus spending and corporate bailouts and pledged Monday to forge ahead with conservative solutions to the economic crisis.

Right-leaning governments came out ahead in Germany, France, Italy and Belgium, while conservative opposition parties won in Britain, Spain, and Bulgaria. Far-right groups also made gains in Britain, Austria, the Netherlands and Hungary.

Many Socialists ran campaigns that slammed center-right leaders for failing to regulate financial markets and spend enough to stimulate faltering economies. But voters did not embrace their cause.
---YLBD on 6/8/09

an excerpt from one of many speeches.

"The United States respects you, we respect your country. We admire your rich history, your vibrant culture, and your many contributions to civilization. You deserve an opportunity to determine your own future, an economy that rewards your intelligence and your talents, and a society that allows you to fulfill your tremendous potential."

"A courageous group of Arab and Muslim intellectuals...wrote me a letter...they said: "The shore of reform is the only one on which any lights appear, even though the journey demands courage and patience and perseverance."

"bombed into submission?" Iraq is free from a cruel dictator.Their democracy and economy thrive.
---Donna66 on 6/7/09

Donna, could you please point out to me the speech where Bush reached out the the Muslims.

He may have reached out, but certainly took it back when he bombed Iraq into submission.
---NurseRobert on 6/7/09

>>it certainly does not hurt to reach out to them, unlike his predecessor.<<

The speeches of Pres. Bush in the Middle-East invariably DID "reach out to them"... every bit as much as Obama's! That's partly why I said (excepting Obama's obsequious remarks, which may not help as much as he thinks...) his speech was nothing "new". Much of it could have been parphrased from speeches by Bush and Clinton.

But Obama is a gifted speaker, a celebrity and something of a cult figure in America. My point is that policy, not personality, is what will matter, especially to Muslims and Jews. And the Jews can't have been too pleased with his speech in Cairo. Obama will find he can't be everything to every nation on earth.
---Donna66 on 6/6/09

NurseRobert: Indeed, "It is what it is. We still need to try." Nothing beats a failure but a TRY. Think of the souls that may be won to the Lord if we TRY! God bless you brother. :)

Sag: Jesus said, "You have heard it said, you should love your neighbor, & hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies, bless them that hate you, & pray for them which despitefully use you, & persecute you, that you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven, i.e., for he makes his sun to rise on the evil & on the good, & sends rain on the just & on the unjust." (Matt. 5:43-46)

I believe President Obama is TRYing to do what Jesus said despite the age old obstacles to peace.
---Leon on 6/6/09

The fight between Israel and everyone else is a historical fact. It has been going on for thousands of years and will never change.
---NurseRobert on 6/6/09

Galatians 4 tells us that Ishmael had been "born according to the flesh" while Isaac had been "born according to the promise". The current struggles between Israel and it's neighbors reflect this "spiritual battle".

I once thought that if you just "buddy up" to the Middle East, you could be friends and there will be no more problems. I think that President Obama is trying to do the same. However, that just doesn't work because of the continuing "spiritual battle" of Isaac vs. Ishmael.
---Sag on 6/6/09

Ralph, thank you for your opinion. Of course, you and I will not agree on this issue.

While the definition of a travesty is fine, I do not believe that his speech falls into this category.

in love with him? I dont think so, but maybe the world was tired of the opposite that ran this country for the 8 previous years.

Enjoy the weather. Its beautiful here in Upstate NY. Bright, sunny, slight breeze and about 65-70. We are having a garage sale and not doing too bad.
---NurseRobert on 6/6/09

Obama's seems to think that reaching out in friendship to Muslims will make them "like" us and reduce their hostility toward the West.
--Donna66 on 6/5/09

Donna, I think that Obama knows very well that the Muslims do not like us and do not trust us. That said, it certainly does not hurt to reach out to them, unlike his predecessor.

The fight between Israel and everyone else is a historical fact. It has been going on for thousands of years and will never change. It is layed out in the Bible that the final battle will be Israel against the Muslim nations (as well as others). It is what it is.

We still need to try.
---NurseRobert on 6/6/09

My appologies folks, I apparently misread something in Mr. Obama's speech, which I have read through twice. Where I got the "comments" I cannot find now. So, please forgive my error. Mr. Obama's frequent quoting of the Quran does still give cause for concern considering the frequent attacks on anything relating to Christianity or the Christian Bible.
---tommy3007 on 6/6/09

Only God knows what this guy is up to.much as I welcome his present deeds,I fear for Obama of the future.For,too much compromise puts us in extreme danger.
---CYRIL; on 6/6/09

Nurse, I gave my opinion, that's it. I am frankly weary of hearing Obama and hearing about him 24/7.

Definition of "travesty": A false, absurd or distorted representation of something.

This can apply to most of what he said in the speech. It can also be applied to much of what he has said since he took office. That is my assessment.

But hey, the world is in love with this guy and everything he says is gospel, so what can I do? I am going to go out and enjoy the beautiful weekend, Obama-free.
---ralph7477 on 6/5/09

Obama's seems to think that reaching out in friendship to Muslims will make them "like" us and reduce their hostility toward the West.

He's missing the point.
"Nice" won't cut it.

Americans have risked their lives on behalf of Muslims...assisting the Afghan mujahadeen against Soviet invasion of the 1980s... liberating Kuwait, helping suffering Somali Muslims in Mogadishu, Bosnia and in Kosovo who faced a Serb onslaught.

But it did not make us friends...

Muslims blame the U.S. for Israel's policies toward the Palestinians. That's their primary issue. Moderate and extreme Muslims agree on this. "Feel good" rhetoric and "apologies" will do nothing to change their viewpoint.
---Donna66 on 6/5/09

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ok, I just read through his whole speech and nowhere did he describe us as a Muslim Nation.

Please direct me to where he said that...
---NurseRobert on 6/5/09

Tommy: There are 4,147,521 Muslims practicing in the U.S., according to Operation World.

"Mr. Obama noted that the United States also could be considered as one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." I would have to agree, because I have a friend who is a missionary to the Muslim world, and it is well known that the U.S. has one of the fastest growing Muslim populations in the world.
---Trish9863 on 6/5/09

Mr. Obama in his speech yesterday referred to us as the " largest Muslim Nation in the world."?
---tommy3007 on 6/5/09

What I found is:

On April 6 Obama said: We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation, or a Jewish nation, or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens, who are bound by ideals.

On June 1: "If you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world."

Ok, Tommy, please tell us what speech did he say we were a Muslim nation. Did you personally hear this? What he said is nowhere NEAR saying we are a Muslim nation. I would really like to hear your sources.
---NurseRobert on 6/5/09

Tommy ... If you took the trouble to read what Obama actually said ... you would find it was:

"if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world"

The meaning of that is quite clear.

He was not saying the US is a muslim nation
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/5/09

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NurseRobert - you are doing great LOL. I am looking forward to the specifics myself.
---Moderator on 6/5/09

I feel guily about what happened:

I drank about 3 glasses of soda pop with my pizza lunch. Nature came calling and I had to use the bathroom.

Uh, Oh. The public restroom was occupied. Weird sounds were coming from the room. And the water was running. What was going on? I banged on the door and a police officer came running. I explained that I had to get into the bathroom. After a few minutes, the police officer also banged on the door and told the occupants to "hurry it up". Four Moslem guys came out and explained that they were only having their noon prayers to Allah and foot washings.

Oops!!! I didn't mean to cause any bad feelings between Muslims and Christians here. I just had to get to the bathroom.
---Sag on 6/5/09

He is a liar. He opposes everything this American Country was built on and he opposes the very GOD Who founded it.
---Gordon on 6/5/09

Gordon, please back this up. What did he lie about and what do you think he opposes?

(moderator, this is really difficult)
---NurseRobert on 6/5/09

His entire address was a travesty.
---ralph7477 on 6/4/09

Ralph, please expand your answer. Just how was it a travesty...
---NurseRobert on 6/5/09

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What I want to know is, Is anybody else surprised to hear America referred to as a "Muslim nation"? I thought we were still a majority christian population, but, Mr. Obama in his speech yesterday referred to us as the " largest Muslim Nation in the world."?
---tommy3007 on 6/5/09

"I'm not sure what President Obama means by the term 'New Beginning'."

Sag: I believe he means what he says, i.e., we (the U.S.) & the global community must TRY our best to come together, & begin living in a spirit of mutual respect for each other regardless of our numerous differences. What's common to all huemans is we want & need respect -- love. Disrespect & hatred has been the root cause of wars & other age old hueman atrocities.

Fellow blogger: Let's not be so "self-righteously" quick to damn (yes, that's a Bible word) the intentions, motives & credibility of the President. :)

PSALMS 1 -- 1 JOHN 4:7-21
---Leon on 6/5/09

Gordon is correct
---mima on 6/5/09

What we are now seeing are Obama's TRUE COLOURS beginning to show. As a campaigning candidate, he, just as so many Presidential wanna-be's before him, said smooth things that so many americans wanted to and were READY to hear. This man, if he isn't the prophecied Anti-Christ, is AN antichrist! He is a liar. He opposes everything this American Country was built on and he opposes the very GOD Who founded it. (And he STILL claims to be "christian". HELLO??) Obama declares that this country is no longer a christian Nation, which is true, but, he does NOTHING to revert that. Instead, he FREELY quotes the "holy" Koran. Declaring that the U.S.A. and Islam should unite! YAHUVEH's Judgment has already begun. This is our WAKE-UP Call!
---Gordon on 6/5/09

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Obama is a political chameleon, he changes his story to fit his surroundings. During the presidential campaign he said his father was an agnostic, no that he is in the Mideast his father was a muslim? What happens when he goes to China, will his father have converted to Buddhism?
---TIMOTHY on 6/5/09

What Obama said in Cairo was nothing new or different...nothing Muslims have not heard from other American presidents (minus the obsequious apologies). I doubt the leaders were too impressed, especially since he didn't make the specific promises they were looking for.

The only thing I heard that was "new" was his unequivical support of nuclear power for Iran, provided it is used for peaceful purposes.

Now, if he would only allow the same for his own country...instead of mandating windmills!
---Donna66 on 6/5/09

I dont want top sound as a dooms prophet, but could this be the begiining of harmaggedons battle?
---andy3996 on 6/5/09

NurseRobert....I used the wrong word. I did not mean to say that Obama had ever been a Muslim. The fact that Obama said he was a Christian surely did not impress any Muslims. I expect most wondered why he wasn't a Muslim since his father was one.
---SusieB on 6/4/09

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When you have an Arab American President addressing a Arab audience they listen attentively which is not necessarily good.
---Phil_the-Elder on 6/5/09

SusieB ... I a child automatically a Christian, or an athiest or whatever, just because that is what his or her father believe or disbeleives?

You can't say that because Obama's father was a Muslim, he must have been
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/5/09

His entire address was a travesty.
---ralph7477 on 6/4/09

There is a difference between moderate Islam and Islamic extremists or terrorists. President Obama is appealing to moderate Muslims to reject extremism in order to freeze out extremist leaders like Bin Laden. By extending the olive branch to sensible moderates who do not wish to destroy America, but who also feel threatened by anti-Islamic sentiments they are often targeted by, the hope is that Bin Laden's recruitment strategies will be weakened and that moderates will actually vocalize their opposition to his ideals.

President Obama's strategy is to divide the moderate Muslims from the extremists and conquer extremism. Bin Laden is threatened by this effort, hence his latest anti-Obama and anti-American statements reported this week.
---AlwaysOn on 6/4/09

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I believe President Obama meant a new beginning in terms of treating one another with respect and decency, as opposed to using the Islamic holy book for target practice as has been done in the past, or labeling all Muslims as terrorists.

By the way, the word "holy" is defined by Strong's as meaning separate or set apart. Its pre-Christian etymology means being whole or intact, and that that shouldn't be violated. Many other religions have holy scriptures by this definition. The Quran is often referred to as holy by non-Muslim journalists, politicians, etc. primarily out of respect for the beliefs of others.

One doesn't have to agree with another in order to show respect.
---AlwaysOn on 6/4/09

In his speech, Obama said that he is a Christian, but his father was a Muslim. Bet that went over well in the Muslim world. Muslims do not believe in conversion to Christianity.
---SusieB on 6/4/09

Susie, I do not believe he said he converted from the Muslim religion.
---nurseRobert on 6/4/09

I don't know what he meant by that. Maybe that there'd be peace between our country and their countries, but every leader says things like that, and just saying these things doesn't make it so.
---amand6348 on 6/4/09

Here we have two different ideologies on how to bring about world peace.
Obama is offering an olive branch and "reason" to the Muslim world.
Their idea is bring down the WTC ,lob missiles at Israel,kill as many as possible by suicide murder!
The Pres. said "America is not at war with Islam".
Well, maybe he's not, but I am.They are a global cancer!
---1st_cliff on 6/4/09

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In his speech, Obama said that he is a Christian, but his father was a Muslim. Bet that went over well in the Muslim world. Muslims do not believe in conversion to Christianity.
---SusieB on 6/4/09

Mima: I teach a unit on World Religions in my World Geography class. The definition of the Qu'ran is "the Muslim holy book." It is considered holy by Muslims. That does not necessarily mean I believe it to be holy, but that Muslims believe it to be holy.
---Trish9863 on 6/4/09

The other day I was watching Perry Stone talk about America headed for a "Pharaoh" type of system like in the days of the Exodus. The next day, the news said that Obama was going to speak in Cairo, Egypt where he would talk about a "New Beginning" for Muslims and the U.S. This could be the beginning of that "Pharaoh" system being set up in America. This is a very bad sign, and one we should pay close attention to.
---Leslie on 6/4/09


Thanks for your reply. That is what I think too. Obama's "New Beginnings" are probably a lie about some more sugar-coated "trouble in the making". His reaching out to Moslems sounds very nice. However, I'm don't think that he intends to "evangelize" those nations. I heard that he called the USA one of the "largest" Moslem nations. Yikes !!! I don't want to be converted to Islam. I assume many others don't either.

We all need to pray and be ready for Jesus Christ to return. Soon. He will be the only answer to the world's problems now.
---Sag on 6/4/09

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With the president calling the Koran a holy book we have an insight into his beliefs. I do not believe any knowledgeable Christian would call the Koran holy. The situation is very explosive. As concerned Israel and the Jewish people we know a true Christian nation cannot be evenhanded. If you are bible knowledgeable you understand that as Christians we must stand with Israel. I believe this present situation is leading to a preemptive_ strike by Israel which will quickly bring the hammer of international opinion against Israel. Perhaps at that time we the United States will also condemn Israel. If and when we do that that will signal terrible times ahead.
---mima on 6/4/09

If this strategy really ends up working then even I will admit that the end times are upon!
---TIMOTHY on 6/4/09

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