Luke 16:9: "And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness, that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations."
Betty, may I ask you what that verse and those around it mean to you?
---Nana on 7/2/09|
Yes, those scriptures say to separate onself from A BROTHER who does those things - that is, someone who calls himself a fellow Christian, yet still lives a lifestyle that goes against Christ's teachings.
Note that in Jesus's life, the only people he screamed at were in the same category - the Pharisees who taught scripture, but acted against it, and on one occasion Peter - who when Jesus said he needed to die, contradicted Jesus, and Jesus said "get thee behind me, Satan!".
Note that he had no problems with sinners who admitted they were sinners - just sinners who said that they weren't sinners.
---StrongAxe on 7/2/09|
strongaxe- Jesus Christ went to those places because He is God. We are not God. The Bible says "...what fellowship hath righteousnes with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial?or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?" 1Corinthians 6:14-15. "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing and I will receive you .... " 1Cor.6:17 1Cor. 5:9-11 says not to keep company with the wicked, not even with a brother who is an idolater, railer, fornicator,extortioner, drunkard...don't even eat with them. 1Cor. 5:13 "...put away from among yourselves that wicked person."
---Betty on 7/2/09|
Cluny: "If neither, then shut up."
Definately not a christian response.
---Steveng on 7/1/09|
It must be nice to have an inside track on just what God would approve of or not.
It's curious that while Jesus was on earth, he spent much of his time hanging around with the scum of the earth (prostitutes, lepers, tax-collectors (i.e. extortionists) etc.), and while of the times he screamed at people, it was almost always the respectable religious leaders of his day.
---StrongAxe on 7/1/09|
God would not approve of those occupations.
---Betty on 7/1/09|
\\ just because something legal dont make it right in Gods eyes.
---tom2 on 6/24/09\\
tom2, do you have a job for Augie?
Even more radical--are you willing to give up YOUR job to him so he won't have to do work that you think is wrong in God's eyes?
If neither, then shut up.
---Cluny on 6/28/09|
"Would it be O.K. for me to work as a "Bartender" or "Casino Card Dealer"?" Yes, If that is your desire.
Simply remember that whatsoever you do in word or deed, do it all to glory of our Father. If you deal cards, be honest, If you tend bar, be friendly, compassionate, quick to hear and slow to speak.
Be a witness for your Father in your own integrity, without judgement or condemnation for anyone, and without receiving judgement or condemnation from anyone.
"Hast thou faith? have [it] to thyself before God. Happy [is] he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth." Rom 14:22
---joseph on 6/28/09|
Work where you will make money just dont get sucked into the world of ugleness. Give your 110% and god will give you his.
---Michael on 6/28/09|
Augie: Obama doesn't "give" anything to anyone but his thug friends. He "takes" from the rest of us by force.
---jerry6593 on 6/27/09|
Augie, I hope you are able to be blessed in your job as a bartender. Many restaurants have bars which are rather decent to work in. My children worked with my brother in several restaurant chains where they had a bar, and my children served alcohol to the patrons, with no qualms. My children were not bartenders, but servers.
I believe you could be a tremendous asset to any establishment, as we are supposed to be salt and light, and bars, no matter their overall atmosphere, are definitely dark either in the actual lighting, or the overall atmosphere.
God bless you as you start this new employment venture.
---Trish9863 on 6/27/09|
Augie...If you were going to become a bartender anyway, why did you ask our opinion? I find it interesting that you are attending bartending school which is most likely going to cost you. Sounds to me like you have an entitlement state of mind when you think that President Obama is supposed to get you a job. Guess bartending is the only job available in the USA right now.
---SusieB on 6/27/09|
Augie: "I don't want to become a panhandler on this blog. "
God would rather have you become a panhandler than to make people stumble.
---Steveng on 6/27/09|
IF this answer is posted... it may may raise some eyebrows...but
It might be interesting as a temporary job.
(Keep praying for something else). If you never frequented the bar scene, you'll learn a lot. It's a place a lot of non-Christians go for comfort. They almost always find a sympathetic ear there (which isn't the case in church).
The bartender is never allowed to drink. You do not have to express either approval or disapproval of drinking. But you may be able to direct some patrons to a better place to find REAL answers to their problems.
Jesus was labeled a "wine-bibber" because he associated with such sinners.
---Donna66 on 6/26/09|
I'm starting bartending school next week.
If President Obama wants to provide me with another job, then that't fine. I just need work.
I don't want to become a panhandler on this blog.
---Augie on 6/26/09|
just because something legal dont make it right in Gods eyes.
---tom2 on 6/24/09|
Years ago, I heard that there was an old Chinese proverb: "Man wait long time with mouth open, waiting for roast duck to fly in".
---StrongAxe on 6/24/09|
Don't wait for a job to come to you. You'll be wiating for a long time.
Find your God given talents and create your own work. Long ago, before I started my own company, I would put up flyers to teach English between jobs or when I needed extra cash.
Although I made a few bucks working at my dad's restaurant in Chicago between the ages of eight and sixteen, I use to cut grass in the summer, shovel snow in the winter and sold greeting cards and subscriptions to newspapers like Grit and the Chicago Sun Times.
There are dozens of books and magazines on the subject of starting your own home-based business using very little investment money. It will also help you during the tribulation period.
---Steveng on 6/22/09|
Augie...Even if you could possibly find a job in the bar or casino business, it wouldn't be the kind of place that a Christian should work. Although those things are legal in some areas, so is prostitution. Would you work at a brothel? Sin is sin and when you contribute to someone sinning it is the same as if you sin.
---SusieB on 6/22/09|
You are going to get every possible answer on this that you can imagine. I suggest you pray and read some scriptures on gambling and drinking and ask the Lord to speak to you through the Holy Spirit. He won't let you down.
---Trish9863 on 6/22/09|
In John 15:16 we learn that Christ chose us and ordained us that we should go and bring forth fruit. This is our mission.
Can the lost be found in a Casino or nude bar, for sure? Is it the wisest way to influence others for Christ, probably not?
It sounds like you are having a problem with unbelief where you don't see things coming together and are stepping out on your own.
The question is really making a statement that God is moving too slow with too little and doesn't understand we needed that job yesterday.
If you are struggling with the decision you probably already have your answer from that small still voice.
P.S. I stopped my job search to respond, so the questioner is not alone.
---larry on 6/22/09|
How about something more "sin nuteral" like waiting? If you wait tables, you can get a good income from tips. Plus, you might be able to work a part time schedule around your other job interviews.
I knew a part time waitress back in 1980 at a high end steak resturant that made over $40K a year with her tips. That is probably $80K in todays money. She did have to serve some wine, but that was the worst of it.
---obewan on 6/22/09|
As long as these jobs are "legal", I don't see anything wrong with doing them.
I once worked at a sports stadium. Some people in my church had trouble with that. I would simply tell them that I would be more than happy to work at another job if they could find it for me. Surprisingly, none of them talked to me about jobs again.
Some folks have never had to work at these types of jobs. Therefore, they don't understand "why" you are. Trying to explain things to them is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. Sometimes it is best to just not say anytime and do what you need to do.
---Sag on 6/22/09|
If it's legal where you live, why not?
Just because some people are gluttons, would it be sinful to work in a grocery store?
---Cluny on 6/22/09|
What are your personal convictions concerning bartending or gambling? Also consider that you may be contributing to others habits and addictions.
---Vicki on 6/22/09|