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Changing God's Mind

The Bible says ask and you shall receive. So can you change God's mind if you continually ask and have enough faith?

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 ---bonita on 7/16/09
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the answer is no.abraham barganed with God saying that if he found enough good souls there would he destroy those good along with the bad,but God already knew,unlike abraham.Faith wont change the truth,orwhen you or anyone asks for something outside of Gods will,or word.Just as with anything you become a pest after a while.
---tom2 on 7/19/09

remember this,just as abraham did for sodom. God knows his word,and doesn,t need reminded,but Iam sure as any good parent knows,and gets a great satisfaction from,when we as believers know Gods word,and his promises he well fullfill all his promises when we use his word when asking.
---tom2 on 7/19/09

"So can you change God's mind if you continually ask and have enough faith?"

"The Bible" instructs us to ask in faith according to His will. His will is documented biblically, asking something of Him that is contrary to His will, I would think, is futile.
However, Jesus did liken the Father to one who just might be persuaded If one came to Him with-"importunity"-shamelessly or offensively boldly. Luke 11:5-8
---Josef on 7/18/09

A good question! If it's God's will you will have it. God can change His mind. Faith: "Try and seek things from above". I think you can have all the faith in the world and still not receive what you think you want. Not that we have all that much faith, that's not what I am saying. But we do have to be careful in trying to make God into some kind of genie....In otherwords, we are not suppose to do that.
---catherine on 7/18/09

Bobby 3, your answer hit the nail on the head. I just finished explaining to Alan that very point. When we read a passage it is only correct if it reconciles to the nature and attributes of God. If it does not then we have interpreted wrong. No passage should go against the Soverignty of God. Because He does not change. He does not stop knowing, He does not increase in knowledge. He is not blind to our next move. He knows even out thoughts.
---MarkV. on 7/18/09

depends on what your asking for,and even more how you are asking ,and how your life is being lived while you are asking.
---tom2 on 7/17/09

God's concept of time and ours are entirely different. God sees things in terms of eternity. We want what we want when we want it...or at least by next year!

Sometimes what we want could be disastrous...but we can't see it. God may be merciful and not grant such a prayer...or, then again, He may, so that we can see how misplaced our values were.

We may beg Him to bring a loved one to salvation. Years pass...we see no signs of progress...but the long-suffering God is at work. Then, yes, maybe 30 yrs later, the answer to our prayer comes.

I doubt we change His mind. He knows what we will ask before we do. But the asking, the believing, the waiting, is, I believe, pleasing to Him whether or not we end up with what we wanted.
---Donna66 on 7/17/09

Well, I think Jesus means for us to ask for what God does want for us.

And seeking and finding can include taking on the challenge of learning to relate with God, in personal submission to Him, at each moment sensing and obeying how He rules us with His own peace in our hearts (Colossians 3:15) so we are doing only what God in us is having us doing with Him in His peace. And face the challenge of finding out how to love each and every person.

There is no other challenge that can keep us alive spiritually.
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/17/09

There were many godly people in the bible who change the minds of God. Abraham was one of them.
---Steveng on 7/17/09

He works all things after the counsel of His Will.

So if you're asking Him for something that is according to His Will, He will grant it to you.

If not, you won't get it. I have friends who have been asking God for things for 30 years now, the same things over and over and He hasn't answered, so I suggested they lay it down like Abraham laid Isaac down as a sacrifice to show God it isn't an idol in your heart - they wouldn't do it and to this day they still don't have what they want.

Let God give you HIS best. You won't regret it. Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, the things that God has prepared for them that love Him.
---anon on 7/17/09

I read somewhere that God is like a parent who wants to give his child a bike for his birthday. All he has to do is to get us to ask for it. John wrote that if we ask according to God's will, he will hear us. James also wrote that we ask and do not recieve because we ask with wrong motives.
---rutha6387 on 7/16/09

I assume you are referring to Matthew 7:7-13 which begins: Ask, and it shall be given you...

Matthew 7:7-13 is referring to the Holy Spirit, not anything else. If you believe and
you ask for the Holy Spirit, it shall be given to you.

Many people misinterpret this scripture to mean you can ask for anything.

To see the meaning a little clearer, see the parallel verse at Luke 11:9-13.

For general praying for what we want, we ask that it be given IF IT IS HIS WILL.
---Gary on 7/16/09

This all depends on what you ask for, and the motives, and rightness of your heart. If you ask for money so you can get a nice sports car and mansion - all so you can say "Hey everybody look at ME, look how cool I am" - then God will NOT grant you this. If you ask with impure motives, or sin and unforgiveness in you - God will NOT grant you this. If you ask God for something like His love - so you can share it with others, and you have a Godly motive (pointed to Christ, NOT self), and you have repented and forgiven - then God may grant your request, if it is His timing (NOT ours), and if we can handle it (will not make an idol of it or use it to glorfy SELF instead of God).
---Leslie on 7/16/09

To say that God "changes His mind" is to say that God lives in time, which He does not. That's what "eternal" means--outside of time. It's an entirely different quality of experience from ours.

Furthermore, your question implies that we have some kind of power over God.

The purpose of knocking and asking and seeking is to get in touch with God's will for us.

In other words, prayer and faith are to change OUR minds and hearts, not God's.

And how much faith do you need to do this? Check what Jesus said about the quantity needed.
---Cluny on 7/16/09

I would disagree with the idea of God 'changing His mind', and even less with the idea that our 'faith power' can somehow cause Him to 'change His mind'. Suggesting that God 'changes His mind' calls into question His immutability and omniscience (specifically His perfect knowledge of future events). Finally, a few verses for consideration in this matter:

1Sa 15:29 "Also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His mind, for He is not a man that He should change His mind."

Nu 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?"
---Bobby3 on 7/16/09

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