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How does James Robison live with himself? With a million+ home he is trying to sell in the ski resort region of Colorado, while just having purchased another multi-million home in the same area? Money for orphans? How?

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ven:

Before accusing someone of lying, it would probably be a good idea to actually investigate whether what they say is false or not. Bearing False Witness is one of the Big Ten. Educate yourself on what kinds of things Paula White has been saying. Your eyes might be opened.

In 2007, Paula White, said, "Anyone who tells you to deny yourself is from Satan". Anyone familiar with the Bible would know that Jesus told us to deny ourselves, take up our cross, and follow him. So either Paula White is grossly misinformed about the Bible (negligently so, as she claims to be a Christian minister), or she believes Jesus is from Satan.

This is the kind of "minister" Trump has as his "spiritual advisor".
---StrongAxe on 6/17/20


So ven didn't see the American Gospel, nor does he know that WOF is witchcraft in itself. I can absolutely tell you that in the 80's when all this WOF garbage hit this country big, the LORD yes Ven The Lord revealed to me that THEN Satan had a stronghold over this nation through WOF. They would preach horrific things like "throwing their spirit" onto another to harass them , curse headaches on their enemies and on and on, saying they could TRANSLATE THEMSELVES etc.

I find it so sad that Calvinism And Calvinist's are so very ignorant in matters, never being exercised to discern what is going on. Your constant coming against the truth ven does me no harm, but only exposes your ignorance. So sad.
---kathr4453 on 6/17/20


kath writes, " With Paula praying curses over anyone re satanic womb nonsense, that is witchcraft. And Trump has invited witchcraft into the WH and put this evil on the WH payroll. God repented he made Saul King when Saul turned to WITCHCRAFT for advise"
You love to invent lies. The only cures coming to the White House are coming from people from the left who want to take over our government and change it to a socialist country. People like you Kath, who always speak of witchcraft.
The Word of Faith teachers are false teachers, and will be judge by God when the time comes for them to stand before God.
---ven. on 6/16/20


kathr4453:

Paula White prayed: We command any satanic pregnancies to miscarry right now!
In contrast, pro-life believes ALL pregnancies must be brought to term, even those from evil circumstances (e.g. rape, incest, adultery, etc.)

She later clarified this to be just metaphorical. She should say what she means. When you use metaphors, you connect one thing to something else similar. You don't make an analogy with actions you're diametrically opposed to. You don't say "We will murder the plans of unbelievers". You don't say "We will bear false witness against the un-elect". You don't say "We will steal from the left". You don't say "The Church should commit adultery with Baal".
---StrongAxe on 6/16/20


It's totally nuts Strongaxe isn't it? And also very dangerous. The influence this false Gospel has not just here, but WE, "AMERICA" has exported this through out the while world, aka WITCHCRAFT. With Paula praying curses over anyone re satanic womb nonsense, that is witchcraft. And Trump has invited witchcraft into the WH and put this evil on the WH payroll. God repented he made Saul King when Saul turned to WITCHCRAFT for advise. And apostate Christians just can't see this. I personally believe this is why we are seeing all this upheaval in our country. This and seeing Trump exploit the Bible at his photo opt....isn't christianity but anti-christianity. God WILL NOT BE MOCKED.
---kathr4453 on 6/16/20




kathr4453:

Exactly! I heard some WOF preacher saying being God's children makes us "little gods" - like Mormonism. I watched some WOF preacher (maybe Creflo Dollar?) and was rubbed the wrong way when the choir sang "Jesus on the Mainline - Tell Him What You Want", treating Jesus as a cosmic vending machine.

Even though WOF preachers tell US to depend on God for everything, THEY don't depend on God. They tell US to send them money, and often use threats. e.g. Oral Roberts said "If I don't raise $8 million by next week, God will call me home".

Trumps "spiritual counsellor" Paula White told people to send her their January salary to "prove" their faith. What quackery!
---StrongAxe on 6/15/20


James Robinson is one in a long line of huckster that Jude and Paul warns us of.

People want an easy way to become rich and want GOD to help them. So these false prophets spread lies to become rich.

One of my Sisters believed in them and refused treatment for curable cancer sending thousands of dollars to a fake healer. She died.

Matthew 25 will come true.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/15/20


James Robinson like so many have fallen away from the TRUE GOSPEL of Christ Crucified. ....which by the way 2Peter 3:9 would suggest to the misapplication of the Sovereignty of God that ALL will be saved in the end, also called Universalism. It's a slippery slope ven you slide down when any false gospel gets a stranglehold over the TRUE GOSPEL. If we are talking about GODS WILL ....and how God is not WILLING ANY SHOULD PERISH, debunks Calvinism along with many false gospels including the WOF who also prevent the meaning of ones WILL. let's not also prevert Gods WILL too.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/20


Interestingly Strongaxe WOF has perverted free will into saying WE through our own words can WILL health wealth and prosperity, because we have become little gods speaking something into existance out of nothing. And it appears that because of THIS false doctrine, some have overcompensated by saying we have no free will at all, relying on a faulty understanding of free will to begin with. I cannot will something out of nothing, however I can receive or reject something offered to me GOD CREATED and willed into existance. Even a dog can accept or reject the dog food offered to him. So in discussing the False doctrine of WOF, their perversion of the definition of our will being able to create as God created should also be discussed.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/20


Axe, I created two new post, but they never came out.Concerning Calvinism, Kath keeps speaking lies concerning Calvinism, so I feel I should respond. It's necessary to get to the truth.
---ven. on 6/15/20




Trump has no religious beliefs Jerry. Unless believing in yourself is in itself a religion. Obama wasn't influenced by Witchcraft in the WH, re Paula White, praying the Demon of Coronavirus BE GONE, where Trump then claims it will disappear mysteriously ......which we see has not costing so far over 116,000 lives to date. BE GONE PAULA WHITE. Totally wish it were that easy ...say it claim it is not biblical. And don't blame Obama for abortions beginning around 1970.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/20


jerry6593:

I have no particular interest in Calvinism, other than to debunk it when other keep insisting on talking about it in the absence of all else. Calvinism is not my pet horse. I did not initiate that particular conversation here. ven did, on 6/13/20.

What Muslim beliefs does Obama have? Obama is a Christian. He attends church regularly, quotes from the Bible, and obeys the Ten Commandments (unlike Trump).

As has been said, "The same people who believe Trump is a Christian also believe Obama is a Muslim". They also believe Obama was born in Kenya, despite repeated proof to the contrary. Such people will believe any lies as long as they fit their agenda.
---StrongAxe on 6/15/20


ax: on the surface, it seems a bit hypocritical of you to decry folks hijacking a blog subject to discuss another, when you are discussing Calvinism on a James R. ski resort blog.

Kat: See above, re your incessant blather about Trump's religious beliefs. How about Obama's Muslim beliefs?


---jerry6593 on 6/15/20


There are some people who are so obsessed with what day we should (and should not) worship, that they end up hijacking almost every blog topic and turning them all into discussions of Sabbath vs. Sunday, away from their original purpose.

And lo, now we seem to have the very same thing happening with Calvinism vs. free will.

People should create new blogs specifically for the purposes of their pet topics, instead of hijacking other blogs for that purpose.
---StrongAxe on 6/14/20


This is what you put down,
"Also, why do you mention "the prince of power of the air"? It can be dangerous to accuse others of being "of the devil" just because their theology is slightly different than yours (and sadly, there are some people on this site who do that constantly)."
Axe, Is's not my theology, the Bible tells us so.
"And you He made alive "born again" who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince and power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience.." Eph. 2:1-2.
---ven. on 6/14/20


So is your worldly disobedience ven a product of your no free will preaching a false gospel because the devil made you do it. WOF, Norman Vincent Peale "The power of positive thinking," THE SECRET, is all promoted by Trump's circle PAULA WHITE is witchcraft and Gnosticism, you support as a reformed theologian, so was NVP Interestingly after leaving the Methodist Church, who Trump said was his pastor. I find your lack of discernment as a Christian even more disturbing as you continue to support this witchcraft in the White House. As you point to others three fingers are pointing back at you. Because you have NO DISCERNMENT, but believe somehow Trump is God picked and surrounded by heretics is mind boggling.
---kathr4453 on 6/14/20


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ven:

Paul said salvation is not a matter of works, let anyone should boast -BUT- also exhorts people to choose to follow Christ.

We aren't responsible for saving ourselves, but we ARE responsible for asking for and accepting salvation.

If your house is on fire, and you call the fire department to come and put it out, you can't take credit for putting the fire out, but YOU first have to decide to make the call in the first place.

Also, why do you mention "the prince of power of the air"? It can be dangerous to accuse others of being "of the devil" just because their theology is slightly different than yours (and sadly, there are some people on this site who do that constantly).
---StrongAxe on 6/14/20


It is a shame to hear many so call Christians, those that say they are in Christ, who somehow while walking with the prince an power of the air, made a call for Christ, because they have free will. They should get a bonus for making Jesus there Savior.
Now they are making thing up to show how great they are. The problem is, they get caught in a lie. Could be they have been here so long they have forgotten to tell the truth.
---ven. on 6/14/20


That's exactly right Strongaxe. Just do some research on the subject. There are plenty of articles on that subject going way back. Yes many actually believe they are the elect because they have wealth using that as a reason they are elect.

But I also remember reading some article written by some theologian tracing the prosperity gospel all the way back to Calvinism. Remember too the Puritans were Calvinists who were deeply rooted in the foundation of America . This too is where the beginning of the false Gospel of America , a different subject thAn the Netflix doc. It's not a Netflix doc, but is just picked up by Netflix as others have as well.
---kathr4453 on 6/13/20


kathr4453:

Thanks for the tip, but I have never subscribed to Netflix, so I can't watch the show.

I'm curious how this can be even remotely related to Calvinism, because I would expect that Calvinists would say that the rich are rich because it's God's Will, and nothing we can do (e.g. donating 10% our income to God'$ Mini$ter$) would change that.
---StrongAxe on 6/13/20


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Kath, when you speak at least tell the truth. You say that Calvinism is the godfather to the Prosperity preachers and you are wrong again. You love to make fun of the Sovereignty of God.
First, I saw the movie two months ago. Everyone at my church got a tape of the movie. Nothing about Calvinism being the Godfather of the movement. In fact they come from the Pentecostal movement. Started with Oral Roberts. who was the first televangelist. But it has nothing whatsoever to do with Calvinism. Calvinism teaches the Sovereignty of God.
It is not about making money, or healing, no, it's about worshiping an all powerful God who controls all thing.
---ven. on 6/13/20


Strongaxe, if you get Netflix watch The American Gospel. It's awesome, and Benny Hinn's nephew is part of this Doc. You should hear his story and how he was so involved in his Uncles ministry, but now preaches and is exposing this horrible movement that has permeated this country as well as our horrible influence around the world. It goes into more , so I won't give it all away.

You also may want to research the fact that Calvinism is the Godfather of the prosperity gospel. And we see in this country our worship of capitalism and it's all connected to our very foundation. How we scoff at the poor, just as WOF does as well.
---kathr4453 on 6/12/20


ven:

I also used to be a big fan of Benny Hinn's. But several years ago, I heard recordings of several of his "prophetic statements" that very specifically turned out to not be true. The Bible is very clear about how we should treat prophets who make predictions that do not come true. We are not to fear them, because the words they speak are not from God. Quite the opposite - saying something in God's name that he didn't tell you to say is the very essence of taking God's name in vain.

I also find it suspicious that faith healers always operate on huge stages surrounded by thousands of fans. If they REALLY had great healing gifts, they should be walking through hospitals visiting those who need healing the most.
---StrongAxe on 6/12/20


David, they make me sick also, I heard of Benny Hinn, and I looked him up and he was also mixing the truth with error every time he spoke. He introduced music first and after he had the people shouting and dancing into a high, he did his work with false healing's. Just another false teacher with lots of money from the people.
I believe all those evil guys will be at the head of the line together with the pedophiles.
---ven. on 6/12/20


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These folks make me angry too, but to squelch that anger, I am reminded they will kneel before the Lord someday. Many who believe they are saved, will come the Truth About their salvation, on that day. So I also have pity for them.
---David on 5/25/20


"Prosperity gospel" preachers tell you to give until it hurts, not pay bills, and "trust God". THEY don't do that. THEY don't give till it hurts. THEY don't trust God. THEY don't live humbly and cheaply. They constantly passive/aggressively coerce YOU for money, like "I need you to send money so I don't go bankrupt" (Jim Bakker) or "If I don't raise $8 million by March, God will call me home" (Oral Roberts). THEY don't practice what they preach - or what Jesus preached ("It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God).

Doctors may not be Christians, so you can't expect them to follow what Jesus taught - but preachers SHOULD be.
---StrongAxe on 5/24/20


"You can give money to a Doctor who heal you physically. But, not to someone who helps your spiritual healing?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/19/16

A doctor will heal me but I don't see these rich charlatans doing anything but lining their pockets. Creflo Dollar (apt name) wants a "bigger" jet, because the one he has isn't fancy enough. Bakker and his wife used the money to AIRCONDITION their dog house.

Give your money to these people, maybe if you follow their prosperity gospel you too can be rich. Just like an AMWAY saleman..
---NurseRobert on 5/24/20


Matthew 8:20 - And Jesus said to him, Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nest, But the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.

1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be Blameless The husband of one wife, temperate, Sober minded,of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach

1 Timothy 3:3 - Not given to wine, not violent, not Greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous,

1 Timothy 3:4 - One who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence,
---RichardC on 5/7/20


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Many self-proclaimed preachers and evangelists live ridiculously rich lifestyles. They preach the prosperity "gospel". The say "name it and claim it" and expect God to enrich you, but when THEY need money, they ask YOU for it, not God. They whine "You NEED to give or we will go bankrupt in two weeks". They preach guilt and fear, not love.

If Jesus was walking the earth today and preachin the Gospel, how many mansions, limousines, and yachts would HE own?

Many preachers today want their churches open - not to care about their flocks (as many will get sick and some will die - as has often happened), but because they "need" money flowing into their collection plates.
---StrongAxe on 5/4/20


I did a little bit of research and this is Not a good organization!!! Do Not donate your money to James Robisons pocket.. Theres plenty other wonderful organizations that are honest and that will help others, not themselves, with your donations. Do the research please! GOD Bless & #128591, & #127995,
---Deb on 5/4/20


Its not the fact that he made millions off of writing books its the content of the books and how these preachers get rich off of the word of God. A simple question to ask yourself is if Jesus made millions of dollars off of selling book about Christianity would be go out and buy a mansion or use that money for orphans A preacher is like a disciple and when a man ask Jesus what he should do he said give all you money away and follow me . That pretty clear where God stands on wealthy people. Why would God want anyone to be wealthy when he speaks out on how evil money is. Its written in the word of God money the root of all evil why would he want his preachers to be rich . Just another of Satans deceptions
---Mark on 9/11/18


You are going to give to theses tv
Stars and knowing that what they
Are doing is wrong the you become
Partakers of their sin that's bible
It say mark those that labor among you. Not support them.
---John on 2/5/18


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:( Verses quoted, at best, w/o Christ's character. Jesus said the "LOVE of money was the root of all evil" -- not simply money. God can bless anyone he chooses w/ great abundance.The poorest person can have a love of money which leads to evil...envy, jealousy, backbiting, stealing, lying, gluttony etc. I've seen the most God-fearing, generous, Christians judged in this way while others say hateful things out of ignorance, pride & jealousy. In humility "accurately divide the Word." GOD determines the gifts. Are WE being faithful w/ all He has given, including our tongues? Search the Word. SOME left all, going wherever the LORD led, OTHERS remained, given positions of leadership along with earthly wealth.
---Orphans_cry on 4/13/17


Jude 1:11-13
Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, ...to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/25/16

Best answer yet Samuelbb7.
These guys are get their reward here. (Luk 16:25 Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented)

TV preachers,contribute nothing back except confusion to people already confused. Enough that they will accept false Gospel hope from these imposters. The contributor is more pitiful than the recipient.
---Trav on 4/3/17


This truly saddens me.Presumptive,judgemental comments that repel the unsaved seeking truth. What kind of example are we setting? He has made multi-millions on books over 40 yr ministry. He couldve taken the easier route,written books and stay home. What they do is a 24/7 momentous job.I do not agree with all I see on television, but Are we going to condemn brother & sisters in Christ publicly based on gossip?How many people have we led to Christ by our comments? Do we believe that God will NOT say, Well done good and faithful servant due to the size of their home or bank account? Only God knows the heart. Lets support each other as a family of God. Lifting one another in Prayer & Encouragement. We are ONE Body in Christ.
---Dianna on 3/16/17


Master Rob, but no one has used this blog for 6 days. Can I post on this site?

He is real nice, so I know he will let me. Hes so kind.

//If I began telling the story of the 3 Pigs,...I've never said one word against Goldy Locks except she is not in the Story of the 3 Pigs...I won't let Goldy Locks in the Pigs house to get out of the cold, and enjoy porridge with the three Pigs until the Wolf got home to tuck them all in.---kathr4453

Sorry Misses, but I can't read. But I use to listen to my Misses read to her childrens thoses stories.

I get them confused in my head cause I had to clean while I listen.
I be washing the dishes when the misses is reading to them sweet childrens.

Thanks Misses. Now I knows!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/16


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I agree with you, Debi_Kehrley

//I just can't see giving my money to these TV stars. Million dollar homes, private jets?---NurseRobert 3/27/16

You can give money to a Doctor who heal you physically. But, not to someone who helps your spiritual healing?

A Doctor can have a mansion and jets, but we draw the line with Pastors?

Clinton can use donated funds to the Clinton Foundation to pay for Chelsea's wedding and life style standards, but God forbid a Pastor lives as well as Chelsea?

The Church voted on a Pastor's salary, now he needs votes on HOW he spends it?

As long as he tithes 10% to the church. It's non of your business. BTW, that means the Church ONLY pays him 90% of the Salary they promised him.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/19/16


Jealousy is the work of the devil. ---Debi_Kehrley on 11/10/16

Ex 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

Ex 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

Dt 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
---aservant on 11/16/16


Jealousy is the work of the devil. Reading through these blogs it's disappointing to read so many "Christians" think that is horrible for this man to be wealthy. God is surely blessing this family for their commitment to His kingdom. Think of King David, or Solomon, the wealthiest men ever to be. These were men after God's own heart. Be careful not to judge or you yourself may face the judgement on your final day, and you may be unpleasantly surprised.
---Debi_Kehrley on 11/10/16


I just can't see giving my money to these TV stars. Million dollar homes, private jets? I give to our local church and support local misdionaries. And hey, money also goes to local animal shelter and a few others. Much more need than mansions and jets
---NurseRobert on 3/27/16


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My guess he sees himself as deserving it.

Jude 1:11-13
Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds, trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots, Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame, wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/25/16


When will those who claim to be Christian stop being ignorant?

People like James Robison, those who appear on TBN and Daystar, along with those of the Word Of Faith Movement, are ministers and servants of Satan.

Their only goal is how much money they can con people out of!
---Rob on 3/25/16


Once upon a time, the chairman of a congregation's pastoral search committee prayed, "Lord, send us a pastor, poor and humble. You keep him humble, and we'll keep him poor."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/24/16


Preach the word not for filthy lucre. Scripture. The old way was tithe, the new law, give all yiu have and follow me. Your mind He desires not money to make others wealthy. The poor shall inherit the earth. Sell all you have. We are to be created in His image, and it is not in the riches of the world. It is the riches if rge soirit if our Lord. No, these ministers have gone astray, and serving the gid if the world. Go to yor Bible to seek the truth, from the Holy Spirit. You need not that man teaceth with mans wisdom, but, bt the teachings if the Holy Ghost. Scriptual.amen
---Roberta_cohalla on 3/21/16


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I just watched a Life Today. How agonizing to watch the video and pictures on the screen of starving kids, hours away from death. How a Christian host of the show can sit there knowing they have the money and means to personally save more lives but don't completely blows my mind. While they have millions at their disposal they have the audacity to ask people making $28/$33/$45 thousand a year for more money? They don't understand the millions they have came from donations people thought were going to help the poor and starving? If they had to pay taxes, they wouldn't have so much money to throw around.
---LeithTribe on 3/21/16


I think we should take into account that James is also an Author, and the sales from his books contribute quite a bit to his salary.
---Diana_Sullivan on 10/1/15


These men are blessed by God. I used to think the same thing that they were shysters, but in all honesty to do what they do on the scale that they do it, they cannot be in the hood driving an unreliable used Pinto. These men meet with heads of State, may travel across countries in one week to orchestrate agencies, events, seminars, etc. and it would not make sense for them to be paupers. I used to hate on them for the riches, but now I see that MOST are just blessed and they definitely use more than they live on. What does it cost to build shelters, churches, broadcast nationally every single day, etc. They cannot do what thy do from the projects. Plus we all have an obligation to help. We cannot use their riches as an excuse NOT TO DO.
---Angela on 3/26/14


Darlene, I pay my tithes to my local church. I would never send any tv preacher a dime. most are money driven. I watch them and cringe. hope you are doing well Darlene. I was coming to texas in may but delta has stopped coming to my town. before I had a direct flight from here to Atlanta then to Killeen. I don't know how I'm gonna get there for my grand daughters graduation. God bless you Darlene.
---shira4368 on 3/27/13


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i was just listening to James talk about these kids being trafficked and how a 120 dollars a month will save a child i just wonder about this so called christen how many dollars he has and how many kids he could help who knows maybe if he sold one of his homes he could save 10,000 maybe 60,000 kids and just think these other big wigger like Joel olsteen or Joyce Myers you guys know the people who i am talking about those big TV Evangelist with all their millions making you fell like crap because you cant Evan send 20 dollars you know it just sickens me
---anthony_gniech on 3/26/13


God says Bring me the tithes to the warehouse so that there will be meat FOR MY PEOPLE...not your own pantry preachers
Jesus...THey are wolves in sheep clothing..You can tell them by their fruits...Jets flashy cars mansions on hills holidays in hawaii paris israel back n forth
These are just some of their fruits..
GOd says..THey do love to say *Give Ye*...Say GIVE US THEY DO plant a seed..send your first fruits..meaning send it to me .tithing these words fall from their lips as if they are vaselined. Preaching the prosperity gospel...If you are seeing all this dont send them any money.You tithes should go to the warehouses of the Lord in your community.
---Sandra_C on 2/15/10


Ano,Sorry,I didn't make myself clear about the gossip. I was referring to your statement about what you were told about the special speaker asking people to pay for their expenses. Registration fees,I have never seen any Retreat or Special Seminar which let people in free and depended on an offering to pay for it and I've been to many of those. Remember in Old Testament we are told to bring the tithes and offerings into God's storehouse which I take as home church. It would be wonderful in every Ministry if they could depend on offerings only and I know God can cause that to happen but it would be very poor management to not have the attendees pay their way for what they are getting. We must do that for any other kind of Activity we go to.
---Darlene_1 on 7/31/09


Mark:

James would "look like world" if he was poor like those in "China... Africa, any Muslim controlled country, or anywhere outside of the "western" world."

We are not all given the same amount of money by God. Look at the parable of the talents. Some are trusted with little, some with much, but we're all responsible for what we've been given. Judging others for what they are given (and that is what you're doing, no matter how much you deny it) is not our concern.

I doubt you are close to James, so how can you know his heart? King David lived in a mansion. He had servants. He was rich! Was he a man after God's heart? By your standards, no. But by God's, he was.
---Brian on 7/31/09


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Brian:

I challenge you to tell this story to a fellow believer in China, the countries of Africa, any Muslim controlled country, or anywhere outside of the "western" world. See what they think of a believer needing a million dollar "investment" home.

Your post merely proves my point. The body of believers have become so conformed to this world that the mere mention of denying yourself money, fires you up. So much so that you accuse me of judging James.

I do not judge James, I merely point out our problem, our sin, our love of money. James stands as an example of our Lord to the world around us. If James looks like the rest of the world, what does that say about our Lord and about us?
---Mark_Eaton on 7/31/09


Darlene1, sorry but I totally agree with SusieB, the gospel is NOT for sale.

Also, Darlene, where is scripture to back up this opinion of yours? Gossip has nothing to do with DISCUSSING why they are now charging registration fees when in the past ministries would take up a free will offering and TRUST in the Lord with all their heart for their provision.

God's name is Jehovah JIRAH, right? HE is our Provider, isn't He? Not the people, not the registration fee. What if Jesus charged a fee? His audience wouldn't have been as large as it was - who wants to pay for the gospel? Believers may, but we're trying to get UNBELIEVERS SAVED, aren't we?
---anon on 7/31/09


I think it is quite reasonable to charge a fee for lectures etc. That way, only the people who are really interested attend.

No reason a skilled preacher shouldn't be compensated more than average. (But being a multi-millionaire is more than "a good living").

I suppose one reason people object is that, unlike someone who gets promoted, he's paying himself...he hasn't "made" money, just solicited donations from people who often sacrifice to support his ministry. I'm not condemning this, just saying why it is distasteful to many.
---Donna66 on 7/30/09


Mark_Eaton

At what level of income is he "denying" himself? $10,000 a year? $100,000 a year? $1,000,000 a year? Please tell us all how to conform to that verse, which never mentions money, and put a dollar amount on it.

I don't read that Mr. Robinson didn't want the money. You are putting words in his mouth. You are right when you say "it is about faithfulness with what He has given to us." You seem to think that you are the judge of that, though. You are not. Neither am I. The judgement seat is made for one person, but it seems really crowded in this forum.
---Brian on 7/30/09


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thank you for your honest answer Randy. Are you the son?? I love Jim and Betty and know that the work they do is Gods work, even though some people think they should be poor to do good things...funny how they would take a promotion in there job but don't think ministers of the gospel should also earn a good living.
---Anne on 7/30/09


Randy_Robison:

I am sorry, but I find your explanation to be extremely lame.

I find owning a million dollar "investment home" to be a far cry from Luke 9:23 "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow Me.". If James did not want the money He could have donated it to charity.

This resonse shows the nature of the greed problem in the church today. Everyone who does this kind of thing says "well...I am not doing anything wrong...stop judging me...God is just blessing me".

God will not say on that day "Well done, good and successful servant". No, it is about faithfulness with what He has given to us.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/30/09


I appreciate the work of Christian ministries around the world.
---Lilly on 7/30/09


These tv & radio ministers are there with their hands out, mostly for their own-self gain for filthy lucres sake. J.R. shows those people in diff countries, now money that comes in, about how much goes to those needs & how much goes in their pockets?
Even there is No such a thing as a christian politician, why? Politics are corrupt. This would leave this so called christian-politician vulnerable to Ratt God's people for their own self gain.
---Lawrence on 7/30/09


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Problem is that so many today think that anyone preaching or teaching (on or off television) is anointed. An anointed minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ knows that the gospel is not for sale.
---SusieB on 7/29/09


anon,you said I call it greedy,well I call it gossip,you were told,hearsay has never been considered as truth or fact. I agree there are some greedy ministers but if you watch thoae ministries you will see God makes them lose favor among believers and the ministries sputter and die. As for registration fees they are more than fair,for the most part,and think about any business,which they are as well as ministry,they have overhead also,a business never operates on offerings. One has to have the attendees pay for what they get. Theres no reason Ministries should give anyone a free ride unless its just to help someone who can't afford it.
---Darlene_1 on 7/29/09


I didn't know anything about the house but I hear the same complaint about Jim Bakker who is appealing to fear (not from God) by selling these 20-year shelf life food packages for your panic room.
I saw this Monday for the first time and it was really weird sky is falling in type stuff.
Have you ever known God not to provide provision for his people?
I am not suggesting its not going to get tough and we may watch paper money collapse in our life times, but the appeal to the base Orwellian anti-government wing nuts on the right is inexcuseable.
---larry on 7/29/09


\\ What really bothers me is that even the most anointed teachers of the Word are charging Registration fees to their meetings......\\

Of course, the building they were holding their meetings in merely waited in faith in the Lord for them to pay their rental or give them a free-will offering, right?

And how do you know they made "thousands" at their book table?

This brings up another issue: Why was the CHURCH (as opposed to a public meeting hall) charging rent to a speaker they had supposedly invited?
---Cluny on 7/29/09


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I have the same concerns you have. I do not even know who James Robinson is but your point is well taken. It is not envy, or covetousness, but merely a concern over the lack of humility displayed by our spiritual leaders.

I know many of our bloggers are from outside the USA, but to those inside the USA, our culture is obsessed with MONEY. American greed knows no bounds, and it has infiltrated the church in the USA. Many speakers come to large church rallies charging appearance fees, arriving in limos, flying in private planes, and dressing in $5,000 suits. Excess, excess, excess. Shamefully, they draw thousands of people who are looking for a word, a sign, a feeling, that they think will be from God. Sadly, they will be disappointed.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/29/09


What if he is selling the house and giving the money to orphans? Sounds like you are a little green with envy.

Like the parable when the workers who came in at the end of the day got the same pay as those who worked all day long...
---mandy on 7/29/09


What really bothers me is that even the most anointed teachers of the Word are charging Registration fees to their meetings.

What happened to free will offerings? What happened to let's trust in the Lord for our finances? What God orders, he pays for.

Then I was told that on top of the Registration fee, this anointed speaker asked a man & wife to pay for her airfare and lodging and the cost to rent the church they were holding the meeting in. So what did this preacher do with the Registration fee? Keep it all? Plus thousands were made at her book table - I call this greedy, what do you call it?
---anon on 7/29/09


Coveting.

God will judge the man on whether he is worthy to be in heaven.
---stephen on 7/29/09


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These days the matter of charitable contributions, whether "religious" or other, is a troublesome one. Every day my mail is predominately requests for money, from multiple cancer associations, veterans groups, police organizations, Campus Crusade for Christ, etc. We want our money to help the needy, not go into a millionaire's bank account. There are web sites that evaluate the bookkeeping of charities, but again are they trustworthy. The Lord's Prayer asks for "daily bread" not treasure to fill storehouses. I believe the more we want the less we love.
---Geraldine on 7/29/09


Jen,
I don't understand this either. Maybe he's spending millions on orphans and doesn't see that as a large amount to pay for a home.

He's responsible to God, not me.

BUT I don't give to ministries like this. I like to give to ministries whose finances are reported openly and who give a high percentage to those upon whom they feel called to minister.
---Donna66 on 7/28/09


Darlene...You are so right! They are selling their version of the Word of God. The gospel has never been for sale.
---SusieB on 7/28/09


As Jesus asked in the parable of the workers in the vineyard, is he not free to do what he wishes with his own money?

How much money have you given for orphans, Jen?
---Cluny on 7/28/09


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Jen, I think you need to ask him that. If he is tithing, giving to the poor, feeding the poor, etc., and he has money leftover to buy a nice house, that's his business. It's not a crime to do that you know.

God's throne is made of Gold, lapis, diamonds, emeralds, so why would God not bless His people.

"No good thing does He withhold from those who walk uprightly."

Being poor is not a sign you are a Christian and neither is being rich, but when the Lord Blesses, why not receive it?
---anon on 7/28/09


What many fail to realize is the high profile TV Ministers write books and sell tapes of their TV sermons,those who sing also those tapes. They gain a lot of money that way plus whatever they receive as a preacher. In the Old Testament Numbers 18:21 there is a verse which says give all tithe to the children of Levi,who were the priests. If that method was used today that would leave a lot to be spent even after paying for TV airtime and orphans.
---Darlene_1 on 7/28/09


Please be reminded that James Robison has to have a home also. So the cost is over $1 million dollars, that is really not too high considering he is spending other people's money. And now your criticism for him buying another home, well perhaps he would like to move because he has nosy neighbors like you. And while were on the subject won't you please send in the largest gift possible??
---mima on 7/28/09


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