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Is Jesus' Kingdom Here

When does Jesus set up his kingdom?
Daniel 2 talks about 4 kingdoms that will rule the world in succession. God says he will set up his kingdom during the 4th kingdom. The 1st kingdom mentioned was Babylon, 2nd was Persia, 3rd was Greece and the 4th was Rome.

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For all who have a 'love devotion', the "kingdom of His Son" has been here since rome.

Colossians 1:13
"transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son".

JESUS is the third temple (and the OUTER temple established IN HIS own body)...

John 2:19, 21
"three days"..."He was speaking of the temple of HIS BODY".

We each are the INNER temple (1 Corinthians 3:16 and 6:19) and have LIFE being INside Jesus's body (a new creation is when OUR SPIRIT is compatible with HIS spirit).

"IN HIM, we live and move and have our being", Acts 17:28.

John 14:6 "I am...THE LIFE" for those inside.

Verses from RSV.
---more_excellent_way on 10/5/09

Kingdom of God to where Jesus Christ is. Today Jesus Christ is in heaven setting on the right hand of his father. Kingdom of God will return to the earth when the Lord Jesus Christ again returns to the earth.
---mima on 10/5/09

Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you

For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink, but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Romans 14:16-18

2 Peter 1:10-12
10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

12Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.
---Trav on 9/4/09

Hebrews 9:26 but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

The cross was the end of the world. We who are in the kingdom already reap the benefits of
the kingdom. but the blind are standing around looking up waiting, preaching a future Jesus saying in four months will be the Harvest,

one day by and by we will fly into the sky and doing nothing until we die. No cross to bear no tribulation for me, no white garments do you see, We have faith in the future we have faith in days of old, But faith in the day we live is rejected and grown cold. with eyes to heaven do they look for Father and SON and never do they start, to realize that all the time they were in their heart.
---exzucuh on 9/4/09

Do you think that the end will be on 2012 Dec 21? Did you think the world was going to end in the year 2000? The people in 1975 thought they were the final generation to see Christ come. 1988 is another time in history where people thought that was it. There are other dates that go back 100's of years without the return of Jesus. After 2012 there will be still other dates set for Jesus to come back. These dates will come and go without Jesus coming back again. Why? Because he already came back in 70 AD during the time the Romans were ruling the world. According to the Bible it was the end of the Jewish age. Not the world.
---markw on 9/3/09

Absolom, we are talking about the Literal Kingdom of the Lord, NOT the spiritual one that you have stated, their is a differance you know?
---YLBD on 8/28/09

Jesus said the kingdom of God is in us and God give this kingdom to His son for He loved him so much. Ever since He gave it, Jesus set His kingdom in our hearts since we were born and reclaim it when we sin by God's amazing grace when we repent of our sins.
---Absolom on 8/28/09

Sorry, but the their is even another, the Stone/Rock/Jesus that is/was carved out of a MT. w/o hands, this is the Kingdom of which you speak, and it is the Lord...

And he will smite the Feet/Nations of the Image and grind them to powder...

Read it, it's a Kingdom w/o end, there is only 1 Kingdom that will have no end, so thats a no brainer :)
---YLBD on 8/28/09

I've known the truth of this for over 35 yrs and it was without the help of any man..

I dont need to re-read Daniel,

When does Jesus set up his kingdom?
Daniel 2 talks about 4 kingdoms that will rule the world in succession. God says he will set up his kingdom during the 4th kingdom. The 1st kingdom mentioned was Babylon, 2nd was Persia, 3rd was Greece and the 4th was Rome.

I believe i said 5, And the 5th IS the Feet of IRON & Clay w/10 toes, then 11, 12, & 13,
And then the whole world would start joining!
The E.U
---YLBD on 8/27/09


Please re-read Daniel 2. There are indeed five kingdoms but the fifth is not the toes. The toes are still partly of iron (Rome). The fifth kingdom is Christ's kingdom.

The statue was crushed by a stone cut without hands and the statue was blown to bits, and the bits carried off by the winds. The stone then became a mountain and filled the whole earth.

The stone is Jesus, created not by human hands, who will crush the kingdoms of the earth and will establish His kingdom on here on earth and it will cover the entire world.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/26/09

You're right about the Jewish people planning to rebuild the temple. I've heard they have everything ready for when the temple is built. I don't think it will be built again because of the Muslim opposition. If anybody even gets near the dome of the rock there is rioting. Inorder to change the Muslim opposition one would have to change their minds on Mohamed. We don't need a temple to be built again because we are the temple of the holy spirit. I know everybody is saying Jesus coming is imminent. I watch the tv preachers. I don't have my head in the I know what's happenin. Jesus has already come. People don't believe what Jesus said so they must invent something else.
---markw on 8/26/09

Jesus will set up His kingdom when He comes back to rule and raign from Mt. Zion in Jerusalam. During this time, we have His kingdom in us - Jesus said the kingdom is in you. So we have the power to call His kingdom to Earth as in Heaven.
---Leslie on 8/25/09

Somethings about to happen that will make it possible for the Jews to rebuild the Temple,
They already have all the instruments needed to perform the Daily sacrifice again.
The AC has a big part in this happening when he comes to Israel with his 7 yr peace plan, KEEP your eyes opened and watching...
The Israeli's have the plans for the temple all drawn up, it will take them about 3 1/2 yrs to rebuild the temple, thats halfway thru the rule of the AC, this is when the 2 witt's stand up and when their killed and left in the streets for 3 days and rise so that all on the earth can see, a mighty earthquake and the skies are darkened, this is when the Lord comes in all is glory for his 1000 yrs reign of the earth.
---YLBD on 8/25/09

The Angel of God that was with Daniel told him to seal up his words that they wouldn't be able to be understood until the end of days,
A times, a time & half of a times,
Well, it wasnt 250 yrs. he was talking about, so it has to be 2500 yrs. which just happens to be now, 2500 yrs ago Daniel wrote his book, and NOW you can see The Feet of Iron & Clay w/10 toes(E.U) rising to power, 27 nations belong, soon the known world!

Clearly Babylon ruled the known world. then the Medes & Persians, and then Alexander the Greek(Great), then the Romans(the scattering of Jew & Christian), then 1948 the fig tree blossomed(Israel became a Nation again)after 2500 yrs of being pursecuted almost to extinction.
---YLBD on 8/25/09

To say that his words have come and gone and this is whats left, is like an ostrich that sticks his head in a hole just before a Lion devours him, Blinding yourself wont change the outcome.
Watch & Pray, so that when he calls for you,
he may find you doing so...
---YLBD on 8/24/09

Daniel9 gives a timeline of the end times. To know when the end is we have to know when the temple was built. People say 515BC. The Bible says something different. In Ezra Cyrus decrees the Jews can go back to Jerusalem and rebuild 539BC. Temple not being worked on through Cyrus, DariusI and Xerxes reign. Artaxerxes decrees they cannot build at all. Finally DariusII decrees they can build. Temple finished 6thyr DariusII 417BC. 490 years from 417BC is 73AD. 69'7s 483 years is 66AD when Nero sent Vespasian to stop Jewish uprising. In the middle of the final seven years the ruler would putetosac and set up abofdes70AD. 3.5 years later Masada was taken. Romans never had anymore Jewish uprisings. This was the end.
---mark on 8/24/09

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The Feet of IRON & Clay w/10 toes of Daniel's interputation of King Nebz. dream of all the ruler of the world unto the end of days, are the same as the 10 horns spoken of in the book of Rev. by John.

When the Lord said that not 1 stone would remain upon another of the temple of God,
he said right after that but this isnt the end *yet*
As you said, that did happen in 70ad.,
(Thats when Jesus meant the end is not yet).

And it was his son Titus that destroyed the temple & took all the gold back to Rome, Domitian, Titus's brother built the
"Arch of Titus" in Rome just after Titus's death, its still there check it out.
---YLBD on 8/24/09

When does Jesus set up his kingdom?

The Lord set's up his 1000 reign in Jerusalem with his Church/Bride, those who were beheaded for not worshipping the AC(666), & the 144,000.
This happen's when the 7 years of the AC are over and he is cast into the Lake of fire along w/the false prophet, and Satan is put into the pit & sealed up by an angel of God for those 1000 yrs.

Ezek. say's that in those days(1000 yrs), it will be a strange thing if a man die at the age of 100, that it would be as if a child died at an early age.

Satan will find millions to follow
him and come against the Lord after those 1000 yrs.
---YLBD on 8/24/09

Peter says a thousand years are like a day and a day is like a thousand years. In Thessalonians Paul says that the dead will rise first and then those who are still alive will rise after them. Paul was talking about Jesus coming back in his time. It doesn't seem Paul was expecting to have to wait 1000 years for God to return a third time. Jesus even said he would come back in the apostles time. In 1Corinthians7 Paul is writing that everybody should remain as they are because the time was short. Historians Josephus and Tacitus have eyewitnesses seeing armies in the sky and a voice saying come up here. In 70AD.
---mark on 8/23/09

God speaks in Metaphors they give a picture of what God is saying. Jesus said I am a Door, A Shepard, A Gait, The word, But these are not literal but ways to understand his purpose and who he is to us. They are Metaphors. He said he is the Son of God that is not a Metaphor it is literal. Many of these things that you make doctrines from are metaphors. Jesus said Go into you closet to pray, that is metaphorically speaking to say pray to God in your secret place and not to be heard of men.
But he did not mean you could not pray aloud or in front of People, He prayed to God Aloud for all to hear. Prophecies are types of metaphors you must know Gods symbolism to interpret them.
---exzucuh on 8/23/09

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Jesus said you have what you believe! Jesus is Now not later! He is the I AM!

John 11:24-25 I am the resurrection,

Jesus is not my soon coming King! he is my King that is Coming Soon. The Kingdom of God is in those that Have the Holy Spirit.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Luke 11:19-20 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges. But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
---exzucuh on 8/23/09

excuse me if im incorrect.

lions laying with sheep. Sounds like the apostosy that is happening in the churches. how even those of evil intentions are in fellowship with those who are of the fold of our lord Jesus christ? Had not evil entered in to the upper room into Judus Isacariot to betray Jesus. Let us not be too naive about these things. We should look at the book of Jude explaining the accurances that are happening in this day and age and study the parables of the seeds regarding the Kingdom of Heaven. Forgive me for my frankness because I'm very concerned for us today. Pray for one another that the Lord giveth us food each day to eat. Amen
---john_camping on 8/23/09

Daniel 2and7 talk about the same timeline of when Jesus comes back. There doesn't seem to be another kingdom mentioned. Legs, feet and toes are divided but only 1 kingdom. Rev. 17:9 gives a timeline of the Roman kings. The 8th king goes on to destroy Babylon. He was the 2nd beast and the AC. He spoke for the 1st beast who had the healed wound. Peter writes from Babylon.
Peter was in Jerusalem. Vespasian destroyed the temple and Jerusalem in 70AD. He was the 2nd beast. Jesus came back just before the temple was destroyed. The end was 3.5 years later in 73AD. It was not the end of the world it was the end of the Jewish age. See Daniel 9 timeline.
---mark on 8/23/09

If you read your bible correctly, there is a 1000 year reign, satan loosed for a little season, and then on to eternity. The kingdom starts at the beginning of the 1000 years, and although there is a brief interim, it's still the same kingdom that doesn't end.
---Jake on 8/22/09

Good Job & Amen!
The brief interim happens when fire comes down from heaven to devour Satan and the army he was able to gather after the 1000 yrs ended, God at this point will burn everything up so that no evidence of mans old exsistance remains on the earth or in the heavens, J-Day for those who will go thru that and then the New Jerusalem desends from heaven unto the Earth and God dwells with his children forever and ever...
I cant wait
---YLBD on 8/22/09

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Daniel speaks of 5 kingdoms,
1. The Head of Gold was Babylon.

2. The Arms & Breast of Silver was the Medes & Persians.

3. The Belly & Thighs of Brass was the Greeks.

4. The Legs of IRON was the Romans.

Then in the endtimes:

5. The Feet of IRON & Clay w/10 toes from which the littlehorn(AC)would rise.

John in the book of Rev. speaks of this, but uses Horns on a Beast that rises from the sea(nations), these nations are the ones that are part of the E.U.

I've just given you the understanding & wisdom to see(If you'll look), God himself gave me this understanding when i was a littleboy.
---YLBD on 8/22/09

"In other words, it's that wonderful paradox: Already, but not yet.
---Cluny on 8/21/09"

Or you're wrong. You're calling God a liar when he says lions will lie with sheep.

The Vatican is the roman Empire, but not quite. just as there is iron, and iron mixed with clay. Keep in mind the Rock strikes the statue at its feet - the last kingdom.

If you read your bible correctly, there is a 1000 year reign, satan loosed for a little season, and then on to eternity. The kingdom starts at the beginning of the 1000 years, and although there is a brief interim, it's still the same kingdom that doesn't end.
---Jake on 8/22/09

jesus told polate his kongdom was not of this world,and to others he ststed that the kingdom was within them.
---tom2 on 8/22/09

It's in the heart of each believer. Very good Cluny very good.
We probably confuse his kingdom with external control over the sinful activities we see in the visible world.
Without spiritual insight one could easily get discouraged and suggest the kingdom is only the third heaven.
We are in his kingdom but not yet home.
---larry on 8/21/09

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Cluny: "In other words, it's that wonderful paradox: Already, but not yet."

You sound like an amillenialist.

I definitely agree with your comments on Jesus' reign. He's King on the throne RIGHT NOW.
---Bobby3 on 8/21/09

The fourth kingom is a Mahometan confederation, not the Roman Empire. This is just typical Western centrism.

Jesus set up His Kingdom (which He insisted was NOT of this world) when He came the first time.

It's in the heart of each believer.

And the fullness of His Kingdom which has no end (NOT a mere 1000 year one) will be revealed when He returns.

In other words, it's that wonderful paradox: Already, but not yet.
---Cluny on 8/21/09

Hi, Mark . . . these four kingdoms were on *this* earth, and kingdoms of this evil world not God's kingdom > Jesus says, "My kingdom is not of this world," in the Gospel of John 18:36. Plus, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation," and "the kingdom of God is within you," in the Gospel of Luke 17:20-21. In Romans 14:17, our Apostle Paul says God's kingdom is "righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit." So, we have this kingdom now, *in* us > God's kingdom is God's realm of how God is in love (1 John 4:17), with the almighty power of God's love ruling in us who obey the ruling of God's peace in our hearts (Romans 5:5, Colossians 3:15).
---Bill_bila5659 on 8/21/09

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