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Are There Christian Liars

Christians still sin, and MUST repent (turn from sin). Anyone who claims not to sin (including Christians), is a LIAR (1 John 1:8-10). What say you?

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Leslie, everyone sins. They might not sin by actions taken, but they sin by the heart, the mind, and with their eyes. The heart and our minds has been change, but the flesh is still there. We can stop commiting action sins, but we cannot stop flesh from sinning. The longer we live as Christians the more we see how short we fall from the standard of God scale. One day the Lord will change our flesh and we will be glorified to stand with the Lord forever. "If we say we sin not, we deceive ourselves and the Truth is not in us"
---MarkV. on 10/28/09

Are you speaking of your protegee Duane? Of course I know that you are not... What else is there to know?
---Nana on 10/24/09

Leslie, I would say they are not Christians.

People who think they are sinless are obviously experiencing no conviction for sin whatsoever. They believe themselves to be perfect in every way and incapable of sinning. Scripture has already demonstrated that people who do not believe they are sinning are mistaken.

In fact, Scripture paints a bleak picture for anyone who is under the delusion that they are without sin.

1John 1:8 states simply, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

People who are oblivious to the fact that they still have sin do not have the Spirit of truth within them. There is no light shining to expose the darkness of their souls.
---kathr4453 on 10/20/09

Christ was all about not being too rigid when it came to certain aspects of the Law and one thing about customs were that is is better to good or sit and watch an unecessary evil prevail.
---Carla3939 on 9/6/09


Every sin is forgivable
accept the sin against The Holy Spirit.

Christan Liars.

everyone can tell a lie it just comes down to what the lie is about, if it came to saving a person from a potential killer one would have to lie and not disclose the whereabouts of that person, even though you know exactly where the individual is you would have to lie to say you didn't. So it depends on the gain of the lie your telling wisdom for the good maybe a lie but not necessary sin.
---Carla3939 on 9/6/09

I agree with this. I've heard of some Christians who pray to God everyday for forgiveness.
---amand6348 on 9/5/09

atheist asks > "Can a Christian be a serial killer?" Atheist, you're still here? No, I would say a "real" Christian would not be a serial killer. God changes us so we would not be getting into stuff like that. But one claiming to be but just acting surely can get into anything, including habitual predation on kids while pretending to be Jesus Christ's priests > 1 Timothy 3:1-10 clearly shows such men are not qualified to be even *considered* for ordination. Plus, Jesus gives His *sheep*, even, sense of smell so we can tell the difference between who we need to trust and who we shouldn't (John 10:1-30). But a serial predator may receive forgiveness and be *cured* of any evil, at all.
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/1/09

I agree with you, but even though Christians should repent, I know many who don't. They deny they have a spirit of pride. They deny they are in unforgiveness and have a root of bitterness and I recently found out that if you deny you have pride, and have a root of bitterness, that denying it is SIN too. Not just lying.

DENYING is sin too.

You used the word MUST in all caps....God gives us a free will. I would use the word, SHOULD REPENT. IF we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. The word IF there sets the tone for that scripture. Many Christians don't believe they are in sin when they operate with a spriit of pride. What do you say?
---anon on 8/31/09

"Are There Christian Liars?" Let us consider the word "Liar" and its N.T. usage.
The greek word used is "pseustes"-A falsifier, or It can simply mean one who breaks faith, in other words, one who fails to abide confidently in the Father or His Word. Personally, I must admit that I have been guilty of this.
As Bill has noted, during times of worry I have shown myself a liar. Now anytime I discern doubt, worry or uncertainty arising within, I cast it down, pray and search His word for His truth.
The sin of unbelief, was the sin that so easily beset me. When that error was recognized and the truth concerning it embraced, Giving all praises to the Father, the error no longer finds a place within me.
---josef on 8/29/09

"Anyone who claims not to sin (including Christians), is a LIAR (1 John 1:8-10). What say you?"
I say the word "no" in this verse 8 should properly read "not" based on the previous verses, specifically 7.
For those of us who walk in the light as He is in the light, have 'fellowship' (an intimate association) with [Him] and the 'blood' (atoning sacrifice) of Jesus 'cleanses' (frees us from the defilement of) 'all' (every, the whole gambit of) 'sin'.
Reiterated and reenforced in and by verse 9. Upon confession of our innate sinfulness, and His Lordship, He cleanses us from 'all' unrighteousness [of heart and life]. For "he was manifested to take away our sins, and 'in' (by, with) Him is 'no' sin."
---joseph on 8/29/09

Of course there are Christian liars! Who can possibly say they have never told a lie (big or little) since they became a Christian?
---Donna66 on 8/28/09

Yes ALL have sinned and fallen short

John 8:7 ...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her

1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us

DUPED by RELIGIOUS christianity MANY follow ANOTHER Christ 2Corin 4:11 believing they are spirit now ...this belief creates chaos directly contradicting John 3:6, 6:63 ..unable to comprehend they live in lasciviousness deceived by god of this world Rev 12:9, 1Corin 4:4 by believing they are sinless in the FLESH

Truth is salvation is an INHERITANCE AFTER DEATH not before it is a FUTURE PROMISE 1Corin 15

---Rhonda on 8/28/09

We ALL, as human beings, have the propensity to lie. As believers in Jesus Christ we still find ourselves in situations where we are tempted to lie for many reasons. One inmate asked me recently when I had spoken on the subject of truth, if it was okay to lie to protect our loved ones. While that sounds like a good excuse and sound human logic, I believe it says that we do not trust the Lord to protect us and our families.
---tommy3007 on 8/28/09

Are There Christian Liars
Christians still sin, and MUST repent (turn from sin). Anyone who claims not to sin (including Christians), is a LIAR (1 John 1:8-10). What say you?

This question, read closely, according to what some people believe about repenting seems to deny that those repenting ever repented. Many think that repenting means to turn completely from sin and not do it again(Mr. Swaggart put this in writing once in one of his books). They also believe that once you turn back and sin again that that sin is unforgivable.

O what people believe!!
---mima on 8/28/09

Can a Christian be a serial killer? Will he be forgiven if he repents no matter how onerous his crimes?
---atheist on 8/28/09

If all mean are liars, do you believe this:
Romans 9:1: "I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,"
2 Corinthians 11:31: "The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not."

I believe Paul that he is not a liar. Why would he commend us as:

Colossians 3:9: "Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds,"
---Nana on 8/28/09

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Even children know that not all are liars, but that there are both liars and truth-tellers. A liar is not a truth-teller, and a truth-teller is not a liar. The whole passage comes from verse 6, which is the subject of the text, and to remove this subject from trhe passage and replace it with "all" people is a gross blasphemy. Verse 6, in context: "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth." This speaks of people whop say that they are Christian, but their walk proves that they are lying, because if they were a real Christian they would not be walking in sin but instead they would be walking in righteousness with the Righteous One.
---Eloy on 8/28/09

But we can trust God to change us so we do better > and not to dwell on how we can sin, but get into loving and enjoying God, submitting to Him in His peace, and caring for all others. And if one thinks one does not lie > you never *worry*? Isn't worry a pathological lier? Has my perception of other people always been honest? Have I had honest perception, about who to marry? about who I should vote for? Or, have I lied to myself, thinking what liers have told me . . . when I could have made sure with God and gone the way He would lead me reliably according to what He knows is true. Yes, I have fooled my own self, and didn't even know it. So, I have this adventure of trusting God, instead (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 8/28/09

Well, what does the bible say?

Ro3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar, as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Sounds like we all are liars to me.
---trey on 8/27/09

1. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the TRUTH [Jesus] is NOT IN US.

2. Let the one without sin cast the first stone.
---Cluny on 8/27/09

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