Why Allowed Into Heaven
The Bible says that Christ came to save "the lost". If predestinaton were correct, then that is impossible, since you must be lost to be saved. Just another example of MarkV's cognitive dissonance, like breaking the law is really obedience to it.
---jerry6593 on 12/15/12|
Sis. Shira, great answer you gave, a person must be born of the Spirit.
God will never ask "why should I let you in to heaven."
"For it is appointed for man to die once and then the judgment."
For once he dies a physical death without Christ, there is no second chances.
While standing before God man will listen to all his unrighteous works and rebellions against God when the books are open, after that he will be sentence.
---Mark_V. on 12/15/12|
Hi Shira, You are correct! We must be "born again" (regenerated (Tit 3.:5, past from death unto life (John 5:24), translated (Col 1:13, quickened (Eze 16:6, Eph 2:1), hear the voice of the Son of God (John 5:25) etc.)
Please note that that in every case the believer is passive. God acts on the spiritually dead sinner and the sinner responds! It is an effectual call (in other words, God acts and it is effective, it gets the job done!)
---trey on 12/15/12|
Jesus answered with ye must be born again. we have a natural birth and a spiritual birth...if we are a born again christian.
---shira4368 on 12/14/12|
WHAT MUST MAN DO to be saved?
Mankind needs an answer. Was this question never asked of Jesus? If so, what did HE answer?
---duane on 12/14/12|
Marc, you can call me what you want. It changes not the Word of God. I'm here to help against those who bring the wrong gospel. Salvation is not of works, it is by grace through faith. God has to give you eyes to see, ears to hear, and a heart to perceive otherwise you remain the same, lost and dead in sin.
Israel is still the same to this day:
Moses told the people:
"You have seen all that the Lord did before your eyes in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land. The great trials which your eyes have seen, the signs, and those great wonders. "Yet the Lord has not given you a heart to perceive and eyes to see and ears to hear, to this very day" (Deut. 29:3-4).
---Mark_V. on 12/13/12|
"Because, O God, you have said you would"
---Phil on 12/13/12|
MarkV: "God does not force anyone. They are dead in sin and don't even know it. You ask, does He supernaturally convert John and not Rick? [but, on the other hand] Yes [he does]."
As I said, over and over again, you're a Gnostic, an early Christian heresy. That is, someone who believes there is a secret knowledge to the Gospel and who holds mutually opposing ideas at the same time. E.g. God does not force conversion and he does force conversion.
---Marc on 12/12/12|
Marc, you again missed the word of God that I put down for you. You didn't say God was wrong when He wrote His Word, all you did judge me. I don't think bad about you at all. I feel sad, you reject the Word of God. You might believe other parts of Scripture, but when it comes down to your rights over God you don't really care to hear.
You are a good example of those who are lost. No matter how much truth is presented, they will not believe it. Listen to how the Bible discribes the lost,
"For the message of the Cross is foolishness "to those who are perishing," but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." (1 Cor. 1:18)
No matter how much Truth it presented to them, they will never believe.
---Mark_V. on 12/13/12|
So terribly sad.
"You've become people who need a milk diet and cannot face solid food! For anyone continuing to live on "milk" is obviously immature - he simply hasn't grown up. "Solid food" is only for adults, for the man who has developed by experience his power to discriminate between what's good and bad for him. Can we not leave spiritual babyhood behind - and go on to maturity? Let's leave behind the elementary teaching about Christ and go forward to adult understanding. Let's not lay over and over again foundation truths - repentance from deeds which led to death, believing in God, baptism, laying-on of hands, belief in life to come and final judgment. No, if God allows, let us go on."
---Marc on 12/12/12|
Marc, concerning the passages I've given you, you reject them as Truth, like so many others. You say,
"So, God supernaturally changes John (but not Rick) to believe the Gospel, not through a person's preaching but by a forced conversion"
God does not force anyone. They are dead in sin and don't even know it. You ask, does He supernaturally convert John and not Rick?
Yes, to John the gospel come with power and the Holy Spirit not to Rick. Paul tells believers:
"For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance.." (1 Thess. 1:5). Why even say that, if the gospel was coming the same to everyone?
---Mark_V. on 12/12/12|
God won't ask such a thing. He already knows I will be in heaven. my name is written down in the book of life. all who are born of the Spirit have the assurance of everlasting life.
---shira4368 on 12/11/12|
No, MarKV, I don't reject truth, I reject the foolish, pagan, non-Christian understanding you have of God. I also reject the arrogant elitist belief you have that you alone have it. I also reject your inability to reason and your inability to actually grapple with someone's argument rather than, as you have always done, spray a non-relevant counter-argument that isn't on track.
I'll leave you in your unhappiness because such an unloving, ungodly exclusive club soteriology can only make a man very glum.
---Marc on 12/11/12|
Matt.25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee --- and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
---j_Marc on 12/11/12|
Matt. 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
---j_Marc on 12/11/12|
If God were to ask, "Why should I let you into heaven?" What would you say?
Because I can't live and am nothing - without you.
---char on 12/11/12|
Marc, You contrive idea's for the purpose of rejecting the Truth.
I tell you the Truth, write it down, and you reject it. Do I force you reject it? No, you do it out of your own will. You know why? because you have no faith. The lost don't believe it either. They reject the gospel because they don't have faith in Christ.
"Faith comes from hearing, (now hear this if you can) and hearing by the word of God" If you believe this passages then God has given spiritual hearing, and with it, faith. It's all the work of God. Faith is a gift, some get it some don't. What you want is for sinful man, to have the right to make up his own faith, and give himself spiritual hearing without God, you want freedom from God, admit it.
---Mark_V. on 12/11/12|
MarkV: "They need God's supernatural act to pull them out." Now it's augmented: "every believer giving the gospel must reason with those whom his speaking to."
So, God supernaturally changes John (but not Rick) to believe the Gospel, not through a person's preaching but by a forced conversion. However, God needs someone to preach to the person he's already about to change their will against their will, but the actual words spoken by the evangelist aren't doing the changing of the person - it's God forcing his will onto another's because people don't have free will, and that's why God must force people to change, but only ones he wants changed, despite being able to change all people's will to love and worship him.
---Marc on 12/10/12|
Marc, every believer giving the gospel must reason with those whom his speaking to. The people in (Acts 17:) were religious people who worshipped idols. Paul didn't know whom God had prepared to hear the gospel Truth, no one knows. He preached Christ and His resurrection. Paul said God would judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He ordained. After he spoke many mocked him while others said (v.7:32) they wanted to hear more on the matter. (v. 34) says,
"However, some men joined him and believed, among them Dionysius the Areopagite, and woman name Damaris, and others with them" Paul had no clue who would believe.
I don't either, you or anyone can mock me, yet believers or others God has prepared will believe.
---Mark_V. on 12/10/12|
MarkV: Which of your statements is a lie?
MarkV: "Jerry, I have never told anyone to break the commandments of God."
MarkV: "No true Christian is trying to keep the Ten Commandments"
You do understand that not keeping the Commandments is breaking them, don't you?
---jerry6593 on 12/10/12|
Again, re REASONING with someone, note 'Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was provoked within him when he saw that the city was given over to idols. Therefore he REASONED in the synagogue with the Jews and with the Gentile worshipers, and in the marketplace daily with those who happened to be there.' (Acts 17:16-17) Note also Acts 18:4,19ff.
According to you, Paul must have been wasting his time.
---Marc on 12/9/12|
Marc, I noticed you never changed anyone's heart, stopped them from going to hell, or brought anyone to spiritual life, You know why? Because with man it is impossible. Now you say,
"MarkV, Have you ever, ever wondered why God could save your son but doesn't really want to, so he hasn't?"
It might be because he is not one of the elect, might be because God wants to see him humble first before bringing him to faith. There's many reasons. Only God knows.
If one day he is going to be saved, the gospel will come to him in power and the Holy Spirit. If not:
"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God"
---Mark_V. on 12/9/12|
1. "Marc, how many people are going to heaven because you saved them?" This is a Straw Man Argument, one a Christian should never lower themselves to use.
2. "Can you change someones heart?" Again, a Straw Man Argument. Not surprised as Hyper-Calvinists like yourself demonstrate a disdain for the mind and thus for God's having created us in His image. That notwithstanding, what does Scripture say? 'Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and demonstrating that the Christ had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, "This Jesus whom I preach to you is the Christ." And some of them were persuaded.' Acts 17:2
---Marc on 12/9/12|
Have you ever, ever wondered why God could save your son but doesn't really want to, so he hasn't?
---Marc on 12/9/12|
Jerry, you now say,
"MarkV: " I did not make the rules, God did."
Yet you routinely insist that man need not keep God's simple Ten Commandment rules. You can't have it both ways.".
Jerry, I have never told anyone to break the commandments of God. No one. Not even you. I have told you there is no salvation through the law, the Ten Comandments do not save you, Jesus Christ saves, God saves. The law does not save. So please, do not spread lies. You who speak for the law, break the law.
"Marc, how many people are going to heaven because you saved them?" Can you change someones heart? Can you make someone have faith? Can you bring anyone spiritually alive? I wait for your answers.
---Mark_V. on 12/9/12|
MarkV: Jesus answered and said, "This is the Work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent" (John 6:29).
I cannot change my son, "it's the work of God He believes Jesus"
Mark, in a moment of charity I could demur you've an extremely poor grasp of English. More realistically, however, that's not the reason your son has ignored God: it's your atrocious exegesis. You've twisted Jesus' plain words to patch up your unbiblical theology. Jesus had previously told them not to labour after perishable things but everlasting life (v.27). They wanted to know more. He told them to "engage"/"labour after" him, Jesus, not that belief in Jesus was God's work. It was an offer to participate in eternal life.
---Marc on 12/8/12|
Believers understand God won't be asking our actions demonstrate whether we follow the Lord.
To play let's pretend is foolish by ridiculing Gods ultimate plan and his supremacy by imagining you can talk God into allowing you an exception.
Further there is nothing in holy scripture that states the reward of the saved is heaven. Holy scripture clearly states no man is in heaven now only the Lord. when the Lord returns to earth to rule from Jerusalem as King of Kings The Lord will be on earth ruling and where Lord is will we always be with him. The Lord returns to earth from heaven he does not stay in heaven.
philosophers changed the reward to heaven however nothing supports their fantasies in the bible
---Follower_of_Christ on 12/8/12|
MarkV: " I did not make the rules, God did."
Yet you routinely insist that man need not keep God's simple Ten Commandment rules. You can't have it both ways. You can't be a keeper of God's law while being lawless. You fight tirelessly to prove that God didn't really mean what he said in the Bible. If you are such a rebel against God, then why does it surprise you that one of your sons is following in your footsteps?
---jerry6593 on 12/8/12|
Marc, don't feel sorry for me, feel sorry for yourself for not understanding the God of Scripture. It's out of my hands.
God is not obligated to save sinners who are already heading to hell. They are condemned already. They need a supernatural act of God to pull them out of that path. It is the Work of God.
You hear the Truth like my son, but you do not believe it.
"Then they said to Him, "what shall we do that we may work the works of God?" I asked God that question, but He said,
Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the Work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent" (John 6:29).
I cannot change my son, "it's the work of God that He believes Jesus"
---Mark_V. on 12/8/12|
I feel sorry for you. You've a son who doesn't [yet] see Christ as his best friend, torture yourself with a non-Christian soteriology which says God can save him but won't, present this PAGAN, unbiblical philosophy as God's "truth", and then wonder why God won't save him. Maybe your son's rejecting your God, not God revealed in Jesus. Humans have this uncanny way of projecting their nightmares onto God and believing they know him.
Mark, you've closed your understanding and won't listen to some of us here who are trying to persuade from Scripture that there's an alternative way of looking at God's Word, but you won't put the guard down and listen.
The Lord is more generous and loving than you believe.
---Marc on 12/7/12|
MarkV, "For God is not obligated to save anyone, that he does, is the miracle."
Yes he is. As the disciple says, "God is Love." He is obligated by his very nature.
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!"
---Marc on 12/7/12|
Marc, more name calling does not change the Truth of God's Word. I did not make the rules, God did.
And by the way, I have three sons. One is not saved. He is not just a rejecter of the Truth, but is an opposer of the truth. In much rebellion against God. I would love very much for God to change his heart, I pray for him. He knows the gospel Truth because all my family does. I cannot change his heart, I cannot make him feel what I feel, I cannot make him believe what I believe, it has to come from God. I don't know if he ever will be save, only God knows that. One day he will have to answer to God. I love him with all my heart, but it's up to God to have mercy on him. For God is not obligated to save anyone, that he does, is the miracle.
---Mark_V. on 12/7/12|
Acts 2:40 "And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation."
If by 'believer' the connotation is 'the saved', it follows that Peter was talking to the unsaved aka unbelievers.
---Nana on 12/7/12|
Rod4Him: It is likely the self-righteous ones that God would ask this question from and gain-saying may not help. The ones who submit to & are led by Christ until the end may not have this question asked from them?
---Adetunji on 12/7/12|
Q: If God were to ask, "Why should I let you into heaven?" What would you say?
A: Do you mean, as if salvation originated with us and we have the difficult task of talking God into being merciful?
I'm glad God isn't like your hypothetical question implies.
---jan4378 on 12/6/12|
Trey, I was not judging anyone. We will be judged on the words that Jesus has spoken. John 12:47-50 "He who rejects me and does not receive my Words has one who judges him, THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN, the same shall judge him in the last day."
I was pointing out that God's Kingdom did not know their Messiah because they believed they were following God but were not. Read what Jesus told his disciples about them in John 15:21-27. Notice that they have no cloak for their sin. Jesus did not cover up their dirty rags with righteous gowns because it was something they had to do for themselves. Rev. 19:7-8.
---barb on 12/6/12|
I believe on HIM who you, GOD have sent.
This is my answer to this blog..
---duane on 12/6/12|
Oh, this is a good question! I have had a conversation with God about this. I gave Him a whole bunch of reasons why He probably shouldn't let me in. And He said, "Those are the people that I will let in". I slept like a baby that night.
---pat on 12/5/12|
Barb, I did not leave anything out. You also said,
"Mark V, ..The Jews that Jesus is talking to do not hear the Word of God because they do not follow the rules of the Kingdom and obey Him.
Barb, it is not because they don't follow the rules that they don't hear. They do not hear barb, because they are "not" born of the Spirit. You see barb, "But the natural man does not rceive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14). They are not His sheep. His sheep hear His voice and they follow Him. Unbelievers do not hear spiritual truth. Only believers hear and understand and follow Christ.
---Mark_V. on 12/5/12|
Since you don't have children this may just seem "worldly wisdom". I looked at my young son's picture today and thought, if your soteriology is right, if my son is not of your Elect, then I love my son more than God does. I don't expect you to understand the logic and theological implication of this but it just shows you what nonsense arises from your non-biblical and gnostic philosophy you hold.
I guess you haven't been a Christian for too long and, obviously, you are part of a quasi-cult. This would explain the unloving and antithetical-to-Jesus theology you communicate. But perhaps worst of all is the hubristic belief you, and you alone, have God's secret truth. You cut a very sad, lonely figure.
---Marc on 12/6/12|
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Re Matt. 11:25, do you REALLY think Jesus meant the people who were actually wise or do you think he was being ironic and was talking about the people who were wise IN THEIR OWN EYES? See, for example, John 9:39-41. Or as Paul cautions, "Do not be wise in your own opinion." (Romans 12:16. Also see Romans 1 Cor 3:18).
Imagine isolating one word, even one sentence, from a friend's long letter and then trying to build a whole biography of your friend from it. Many Christians do that theologically to Paul's LONG letter to the Romans Jews and Gentiles (deciding to whom he's talking at any moment is often problematic, but not impossible). Re Romans 11:7, the completion of Paul's question is found in verses 11ff.
---Marc on 12/6/12|
Lu6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
I'm not attacking you, just given you some scripture to ponder. It is my belief that we should never judge who is and who is not of God.
---trey on 12/6/12|
Marc, I give you the spiritual word of God, the words of Jesus, write them down for you, and all I get is your worldly opinion, which means nothing since it is worldly.
As I said before your humanism is showing. You want to take the glory that only belongs to the Lord by taking credit for your salvation. Salvation from beginning to end is all of God. That is what I promote, the gospel of the Lord.
""Nothing has been kept secret but it should come to light." (Mark 4:22)" First, did you read the next verse? "If you have ears to hear, let him hear" you have no ears to hear.
And if it should come to light that means it has been kept secret. Did you even think before you wrote that?
---Mark_V. on 12/5/12|
Mark V, you left out some important parts of Jesus' message in John 8. John 8:47 "He who is of God hears the words of God, for this reason you do not hear them because you are NOT of God". The Jews that Jesus is talking to do not hear the Word of God because they do not follow the rules of the Kingdom and obey Him.
What they are not understanding is that they are still bound by sin and that is why Jesus tells them in John 8:34 "Whosover commits sin is the servant of sin." He has already told them in John 8:31-32 how to free themselves of sin but they can't hear the Truth because they would rather believe the smooth easy lies about salvation that Satan gives.
---barb on 12/5/12|
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Hi MarkV and Marc. Here are a few verses to ponder.
Mt11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Hmmm sounds like some things were hidden.
Lu8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables, that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
Ro11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for, but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
---trey on 12/5/12|
You promote a Jesus who teaches a secret doctrine for an elite only. This is Gnosticism. Careful study of the history of the early Church confirms that you and they are not different. You are nothing more than a modern heretic who wants Christians to return to a false understanding of the God who is love. You obviously have issues in your upbringing you haven't dealt with and now you project these onto God and twist your theology to ease your psychological pain. I know it makes you feel superior, but your belief is an imitation Christianity. So sad.
"Nothing has been kept secret but it should come to light." (Mark 4:22)
---Marc on 12/5/12|
Marc, You read, hear the words of Jesus but don't perceive or understand. Like those in (John 8:42-44).
"Jesus said to them. if God were you Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God, nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. ( hear this) "Why do you not understand My speech" (answer) Because you are not able to listen to My Word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do.."
If Jesus wanted all those who heard the parables to understand, He would have explained them to them.
"but to those who are outside, all things come in parables so that seeing they may see and not perceive, and hearing they may hear and not understand"
---Mark_V. on 12/5/12|
If God were to ask me why I should be allowed into heaven, my only plea would be "The Finish Work Of Jesus Christ!" (John 19:30, Heb 4:10).
If works are neccessary for salvation, I will be the first to admit that I am doomed! My response to my sin is, "who shall deliver me from the body of this death?" (Rom 7:24) but thanks be to God which giveth us the victory through Christ! (1Cor 15:57)
My security in my salvation lies in my Saviour, and I draw comfort from his words, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
---trey on 12/4/12|
Mark V: "Jesus never wanted to make His message clear."
Now I understand that you are not an orthodox Christian. What you are in fact is a Gnostic.
Warning to everyone: Be very careful of MarkV's doctrine as it was anathemised by the early Church, and, indeed, the disciples.
---Marc on 12/4/12|
Well, Mark V, Jesus told Nicodemus that works are needed for salvation. He also told almost every one of the Seven Churches in Revelation that they must overcome.
You can believe Paul's theory on grace but as for me, I will abide in the words of Jesus Christ. Either way I will make it into the Kingdom because if I am wrong...grace will save me but if I am right I'll be one of few walking down the narrow road and entering into eternal life.
---barb on 12/4/12|
barb, this should not even be an issue but I suppose it is to you. Works have nothing whatsoever to do with saving you. I don't know why you do not understand the requirement for entering the kingdom of God. Jesus was very clear. You must be born again of the Spirit. He did not mention the requirement of also doing good works.
Later we are told that
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, (hear this) and that not of yourselves" it is a gift of God, (hear this) not of works," (why?) lest anyone should boast"
If people believe their works had something to do with their salvation they would boast. The glory goes to Christ.
---Mark_V. on 12/4/12|
Thanks Mark V, but I know very well what that passsage means. In fact if you read my answer you will see that the last line I wrote is very clear about that.
You are the one who stated that no works were ever mentioned or required to enter into the Kingdom. Are you sticking by that statement or have you changed your mind? It is hard to tell from what you wrote.
You might want to compare John 3:21 to Rev. 3:21 for a clearer understanding.
---barb on 12/3/12|
barb, I left that out because I though you knew what it meant already, look, here it is:
"But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God" (John 3:21).
So what does that passage say? First those who practice the Truth, this refers to only believers. They are the only ones who practice the Truth. They only come to the light so that people can know by his good deeds he is already a child of God. Those are the works that are found in (Eph. 2:10) "we are created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them" Here God gets the glory, for all good things come from above.
---Mark_V. on 12/3/12|
Hi, we have to be careful who we pose that question to, years ago I was with a college group that went in pairs to strangers' doors and asked that, one woman burst into tears and said she'd just lost her son two weeks before. Our intent may have been "godly" but we certainly did not MINISTER to this woman. Never know what people are going through. Just my two cents :)
---Mary on 12/2/12|
Mark V, you quoted Jesus as saying only those born of the Spirit could enter the Kingdom (I agree) but then you added that no works were ever mentioned or required and by doing so you interrupt Jesus in the middle of His lesson. He did not finish teaching Nicodemus the Way into the Kingdom until the end of verse 21.
Therefore you leave out an important part...John 3:21 "But he who practices the Truth, comes to the Light, that his deeds may be manifested that they are wrought in God."
We have to do the work if we want to come to the Light and be born again.
---barb on 12/2/12|
barb, thanks for your answers. When I said God doesn't have to ask for anything it is because He knows everything. If He had to ask for something, it would mean He doesn't know how you will respond, "For He worketh all things after the counsel of His own will" (Eph. 1:11).
You gave two passages concerning works. One who does evil works. That is the lost. And one who does good works, that is the believer. People know the believer by the deeds they do. When I answered you it was concerning what Jesus said as to who could enter the kingdom of God, and Jesus said only those born of the Spirit could enter. No works were ever mentioned or required.
---Mark_V. on 12/2/12|
Mark V, right. God does not have to ask us anything.
Did you read these three verses from John chapter 3?
"And this is the condemnation that Light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light for their deeds (works) were evil." and "For everyone who does evil hates the light, neither do they come to the light lest their deeds (works) be reproved." and lastly "But he that does Truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds (works) may be seen that they are wrought in God."
---barb on 12/1/12|
barb, you said this time,
"I doubt that God is going to ask us why He should let us into Heaven. The only Way into the Kingdom of Heaven is by obedience to the rules of the King."
God doesn't have to ask us anything. Jesus said,
"Most assuredly I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Here Jesus says "see" then later He says,
"Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God" Here the word is "enter" He didn't say you had to do a lot of works and then you might make it in.
---Mark_V. on 12/1/12|
Cluny, Here it is straight from the mouth of Jesus "And, behold, I come quickly and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be". Rev. 22:12.
The works that Jesus is referring to can be found in Rev. 12:17 and Matt 19:14-21.
I will have to take the Word of God over the words written in some ancient prayer.
---barb on 11/30/12|
\\The only Way into the Kingdom of Heaven is by obedience to the rules of the King. \\
This is nothing more than salvation by works.
As one of the standard morning prayers in Orthodoxy says, "If You saved me for my works, this would not be grace but rather a duty, but there are no deed which would justify me. Rather, let my faith suffice for all my deeds. If faith of the desparate saves, then save me, quickly, lest I perish."
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/29/12|
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I doubt that God is going to ask us why He should let us into Heaven. The only Way into the Kingdom of Heaven is by obedience to the rules of the King. The Followers of Jesus will understand this and will be enduring, overcoming and abiding in His Word when He arrives.
When Jesus comes in the clouds it will be too late for questions...the wicked will be destroyed by His sword and the birds will eat their flesh. Rev. 19:21.
We would be wiser to prepare ourselves by abiding in the teaching of Jesus Christ who is called The Word of God. Rev. 19:13.
---barb on 11/29/12|
is God going to ask questions or just look at the book of names?
---Tj on 11/28/12|
"If God were to ask, "Why should I let you into heaven?"
What would you say?" Father your grace is sufficient for me.
---Josef on 10/25/09|
I'm here by invitation of the King of Kings.
When I gave my life to JESUS, HE took my sins upon Himself and imputed His righteousness to me. I have nothing of my own to offer for entry into Heaven.
---Donna66 on 9/22/09|
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To think that someone will use these lines!:
Matthew 25:24-25: "Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine."
---Nana on 9/22/09|
Good question Rod. I would say to God,
God, I surrender my life to you, for I bring nothing of value to give You other then the life You gave me. I want to be with you forever, and I am holding on to your promises, that If I give my life to you, you will forgive me through the shed blood of Your Son Jesus who gave His life for me. I repent of my rebellion against You, and ask for forgiveness, and by that faith You gave me, I believe and trust in your promises.
---Mark_V on 9/20/09|
What would David say or have said? Perhaps:
"Let thine hand help me, for I have chosen thy precepts."
---nana on 9/17/09|
What if you remember there is someone you haven't forgiven. What happens then?
---Donna66 on 9/15/09|
Because you so loved the world, that you sent your only Son, to live a sinless life, to die a substitutionary death in our place, to make atonement for our sin debt, and having accepted His death and the free gift of mercy, you have made me your righteousness in Him.
Now that I am righteous in Him, I am justified to stand in your presence, holy, sinless, and without spot or wrinkle, I am justified to participate in the inheritance you have prepared for Him, and justified to be your child and heir.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/15/09|
catherine, true, that's why I asked "if," but are you avoiding answering the question?
---Rod4Him on 9/15/09|
He won't ask. God knows who are His!
---catherine on 9/15/09|
I totally agree with this answer.
I plead the Blood of the Lamb of God!
---caughtup on 9/14/09
To this answer I believe Almighty God will say, WECOME HOME,
---mima on 9/15/09|
Jesus came knocking at my hearts door & I recieved Him in. Recieved God's Only Salvation Plan According to Acts 2 v'37-41 which Fulfills Matt 28 v's 19-20. I must walk the straight & narrow,(not partaking of the things pertaining to the god of this world, worldly pleasures), bid God's service, which is just a reasonable service. Till when my # is called or the rapture takes place.
---Lawrence on 9/15/09|
Because while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. That's the only basis for salvation. He did it for us. Nothing we could do would qualify us for heaven.
---mugwump on 9/14/09|
I plead the Blood of the Lamb of God!
---caughtup on 9/14/09|