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Was Jesus Born On Dec 25th

I heard that 12/25 is not jesus's birthdate and in fact I looked into this and found that indeed the birthdate 12/25 belongs to an ancient god called Mithra. I want to celebrate "christmas" but I don't think thats possible. And you?

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Alan, you will notice that Rhonda takes pieces of common Christianity and then combines it with other pieces of common NonChristianity to try to substantiate falsehood. To wrongly join Christ with other religions is error, for there is no fellowship with light and darkness, truth and falsehood, Christ and idolatry: II Corinthians 6:14-16.
---Eloy on 10/22/09

Amen Francis

Alan there are no verses in Gods Holy Word that claim what counterfeit christians do today which is celebrate Christs birth at RCC's christ-mas(s)

Apostles did not celebrate his birth

Christ did not celebrate his birth as no Jew during Christs time would celebrate a pagan day of birthday

maybe RCC tells their subjects it is receiving Christ the WRITTEN definition is a DEATH sacrifice ...ignorance is bliss and choosing to call it a celebration of birth is foolish the word invented by RCC states christ-mas(s) is Christ's Mass ...Mass is a death sacrifice

christ-mas(s) is unbiblical celebrate it however you choose it is NOT FROM God
---Rhonda on 10/19/09

Francis ... I did use the word "celebrate", not "show" or "remember"

Your first example is a remembrance of His death, and is specifically linked to His Return, and your second is fact a celebration of His Resurrection from the dead, not of His death.

In fact, what I said in the first of my blogs on 10/18.

Can you help Rhonda by providing evidence that at Christmas, we celebrate the Death of Christ?
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/19/09

There are TWO occasions when christians celebrate the death of christ,
A: 1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

B:Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
---Francis on 10/18/09

Rhonda ... When has any Christian of any denomination celebrated the "Death of Christ"??
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/18/09

Rhonda ... The RC Mass is their receiving of Christ into themselves. Other denominations do this too.

Can you provide any evidence that the RCC (or any other Christians) have at any time in their history celebrated Christ's desth?

No, they remember Christ's sacrifice (death of His earthly body) for us on Good Friday, and celebrate His Resurrection for us on Easter Day

And on Christmas Day they celebrate His Earthly Birth for us.

And the majority of Christians do the same.

You may not like the fact that we celebrate, or disagree with the dates chosen, but do not try to tell us that we celebrate His death.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/18/09


yes it seems for Eloy Gods Holy Word is written to quote from when he condemns people for not following his lies ...yet he doesn't understand he chooses not to follow scripture as it is written ...instead ADDING to it Prov 30:5-6 like his last post ...the profane is christ-mas/christ-mass (one "S" or two doesn't matter the WORD was INVENTED by rcc it means DEATH of Christ)

Eloy I noticed for the 4th time now you have evaded and ignored the very word of christ-mas(s)

Again where is christ-MAS/christ-MASS in Holy Word of God? Why do you continue to run and dodge this question?

I stand on Truth in Gods Holy Word there is no christ-mas/mass ...celebrate if you choose it is unbiblical
---Rhonda on 10/18/09

christ-mas(s) originated as a compound meaning of Christ's Mass

knowing word MAS/MASS is term of RCC

Christemasse Middle English

Cristes msse Old English 1038AD

Cristes is Greek Christos (Christ)

msse is Latin missa (MASS)

NOTICE TWO "S" unlike foolish who use word and letter play claiming christ-mas(s) with ONE "S"

the word MAS/MASS has NO OTHER MEANING in history or today ...unlike the spin from one poster claiming mas means festival

the word festival comes from feast

fest is Middle English
festivus is Middle French word , from the festivus is Latin

Festival use began in 1589

WORD christ-mas(s) is simply Death of Christ
---Rhonda on 10/18/09

Rob, a made up word like Christ-MASS, IS NOT ChristMAS. Woe to them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. The natural person receives not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to that one: neither can know that one, because they are spiritually discerned. If they called the Lord of the house beelzebub, how much more them of his household?
---Eloy on 10/18/09

Rhonda, Have you noticed that Eloy always tell people they bear FALSE WITNESS whenever someone accepts the BIBLE AS IT IS WRITTEN, and they take a stand against his falsehood.
---Rob on 10/17/09

Rhonda ... Your name is that of a town in Wales. Does that mean you were born there?

My surname sounds like an Indian dish. Does that mean I am Indian?

But in any case

And we can celebrate whenever we like ... as it is we celebrate on 25th December. Why not? Whenever we celebrated you would find fault, for we know you don't like the celebration of the birth of Christ. That is for you not to celebrate yourself, but do not impose your own practice on others.

We celebrate Jesus birth on this Earth ... you know it is absurd to say we are celebrating His death. Use your sense, girl, we know what we are celebrating.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/17/09


you simply deny TRUTH to SERVE ANOTHER Jesus 2Corin 11:4

christ-mass is VOID in scripture it is an antichrist term INVENTED by rcc ...a man-made term several hundred years after Christ by merging pagan practices of death sacrifice p537 Catholic Encyclopedia

TRUE meaning of words merry christ-mass MEAN merry death of christ

WORD christ-mass comes from Cristes Maesse early English phrase meaning Mass of Christ

the word MASS is religious term by roman catholics not recognized by her PROTEST-ant daughters Rev 17...christ-mass literally means mass of Christ handed down by generations of death of christ keepers - APOSTLES NEVER knew this pagan day

there is no other meaning for the word christ-mass
---Rhonda on 10/17/09

Rhonda, it looks like you may have an issue with a mass of Christ, else a massive Christ which you cannot comprehend.
---Eloy on 10/17/09

But there is no connection between a catholic mass, and Christ-mas.


no small wonder you have no answers seeing you evaded my question with a wordy post unrelated to my question

then AGAIN Eloy enlighten us mortals ...where does the word christ-mass originate? ...or for you - christ-mas

please I'm more than curious to YOUR idea's since they are far more fable-like and fabricated then reality

seeing the term is not in scripture please tell us your fairy tale - where did it come from?
---Rhonda on 10/16/09

rhonda- People celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. It's called Christmas, and has been called that for a very long time. Christians also celebrate the resurrection of Jesus when He rose from the dead. So we are celebrating His life when we celebrate Christmas and Easter. You are totally obsessed by the Roman Catholic Church.
---Betty on 10/16/09

obewan- As many people have already stated, the actual birthdate of Jesus Christ is not what Christians seek to honor. We seek to honor Jesus Christ who came to earth to be born through a virgin, preach the kingdom of God, teach man God's will, and to die for the sins of mankind. After all Jesus did for us, He deserves the worldwide attention He gets at Christmas and Easter.

Some say July 2 should have been independence Day, because it was the date Congress voted for independence. John Adams noted in his writings that July 2 would be remembered in the annals of American history, and be marked with fireworks and celebrations. The document wasn't signed until August 2.
---Betty on 10/16/09

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Rhonda, Please notice that there is only 1 "S" in Christmas, and not 2 es's. "Christ-mass" is a ficticious word you made up to try to wrongly establish a false connection between the noncatholic birth of Christ and the catholic's religion.
But there is no connection between a catholic mass, and Christ-mas.
---Eloy on 10/16/09

Rhonda, you still bear false witness against me and the holy scriptures.
---Eloy on 10/15/09

Why don't you quote us that scripture since you say it exists?

Every true student of Christ's history knows that his "birthday" date was set by the Pope on December 25th to compete with a pagan holiday.

In fact, if you read the scriptures you might conclude as many historians have that Christ was born in the fall and not winter because the animails were still grazing in pastures and not barns.
---obewan on 10/16/09

12\25 is not the actual birthday of JESUS. We do not know on what day He was born because it does not matter. The World celebrates that day and in harmony since it is unimportant so do I. Anything that helps reminds people of who JESUS was and what He did is not all bad.

The use of alchol on that day is much more to be decried then just a day of celebration.
---Samuel on 10/16/09

Rhonda, you still bear false witness against me and the holy scriptures.
---Eloy on 10/15/09

then enlighten me ...where is christ-mass in Gods HOLY Scriptures?

I'll save you a trip isn't and you look foolish claiming scripture describes Christs birth when several people have attempted to help you see the lie ...knowing you cannot tie back John's birth to the misunderstandings you have been given by deceived men

christ-mass is a TERM GIVEN by rcc

sorry if the TRUTH hurts you and the lie duped upon you by your MOTHER rcc Rev 17 ...the Biblical Christ never asked his true followers to celebrate his birth we celebrate his LIFE at the right hand of The Father in Heaven
---Rhonda on 10/15/09

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Rhonda, you still bear false witness against me and the holy scriptures.
---Eloy on 10/15/09

according to both testaments, It is recorded for all whom care to know, that my Jesus was born on December 25

then celebrate "your" Jesus birth 2Corin 11:4, 4:4

Biblical Christ was not born on 12/25, so by celebrating the day you either serve ANOTHER Christ 2Corin 11:4


you support a LIE breaking the 9th commandment by bearing false witness of the Biblical Christ ...understanding Biblical Christ was not born on this day and knowing scripture does not provide his birth date one would then be celebrating a lie to SERVE traditions of men Mark 7:6-9

Christ said if you love me obey and KEEP my commandments ...instead counterfeit christians do neither and create days for their own pleasure
---Rhonda on 10/14/09

according to both testaments, It is recorded for all whom care to know, that my Jesus was born on December 25, 5 B.C.
---Eloy on 10/14/09

Jesus was born around the 25th of September.
you can do a study on john the baptist father,and you can figure out the dates he had to serve in the temple (two weeks service at a time) figure out when john was conceived, then just do the math.
Mary went to see her cousin (johns mother) after the holy Spirit came upon here and when she saw her cousin, John leaped in the womb. (This alone proves live starts at conception.)hope this helps.
God knows your heart celebrate it on the 25th of Dec, and enjoy the fact that you know the truth.
---larry on 10/13/09

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A-men Alan. I hope all is going well with you. You see there two paths in life: one called the strait and narrow which the Christian travels hand-in-hand with Jesus, and the other is the broad and wide road which the nonChristian travels without Jesus. And the thing about the two roads are that they are progressive, the one leads deeper and deeper into the glory and wisdom and blessings of God, and the other leads deeper and deeper into the emptiness and foolishness and cursings of the world. One we are changed from glory up to glory into harmony with Christ and all his fullness, and the other the soul is degenerated down into baseness and chaos growing more distant apart from Christ.
---Eloy on 10/9/09

I noticed the word in my earlier posting should be posted "...has zero to do WITH the word "mass"..., and Not without.
---Eloy on 10/8/09

Eloy ... Thanks for that.

In any case, it's what you make of something that counts, not what someoen else makes it.

I could say that drinking water is bad for yuo, and that Rnonda sins by drinking it. Does not make it so for Rhonda.

It is outrageous for Rhonda to say that we when celebrate Jesus' birth, we are celebrating His death. I know what I celebrate. My mind, I think is my own, not hers.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/8/09

Betty, If you read rhonda's posts, you will note that she is much anti- and not pro-. She wrests the scriptures into falsehood, and bears false witness against the saints, and disses the righteous Christians. Do not believe her words. The truth is, the word "-mas" in Christmas is an archaic word meaning feast or festival. Thus Christmas means "Festival of Christ", and has zero to do without the word "mass" in the catholic's religion.
---Eloy on 10/8/09

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so now christ-mass is about driving cars and Hebrew gesture reserved for most honored by placing palms in front of Christ

oddly you defend xmas much like a teenager would defend their wrong choices ...well Mom so-and-so did - it seemed and felt right at the time ....hollow reasoning VOID of God ...why Christ declared men would HONOR traditions of men MORE than HIM Mark 7:6-9 ....cherished ignorance more important than Christ ...term christ-mass invented by rcc (seeing it ain't biblical) MASS is simply rcc pagan tradition for death sacrifice

ho ho ho merry death of christ is TRUTHFUL meaning of "merry christ-mass" ...celebrate rcc xmas ...can't honor tradition of men from rcc with Biblical Christ on rcc's day
---Rhonda on 10/7/09

We have no biblical basis for most of the claims you make, rhonda. Where in the Bible were the people commanded to wave palm branches at Jesus and shout "Hossanna!" ? Did Jesus rebuke them for doing it, or did He receive His honor graciously, as a King would do? Christmas honors Jesus.
---Betty on 10/7/09

Eloy- I noticed the same things. If some so-called Christians get their way, they'll lead a whole generation to hell. Jesus said that the night cometh when no man can work, and those Bible rippers & slicers are trying to find out how to turn out the lights.
---Betty on 10/7/09

Larry, Zacharias was performing the priests Day of Atonement to make atonement for himnself and the people in the 7th month (Heb: Ethanim= Eng: October- Lev.16:29-34+ 23:26-32). Now the angel Gabriel spoke to him at this time, Lk.1:8-11. Elizabeth in her 6th month of pregnancy, when Mary concieves seed from the Holy Ghost (from October, November is 1, December is 2, January is 3, and so on up to April is the 6th month- Lk.1:26,27,36). Now count 9 months for Mary's pregnancy, 1,Abib or Nisan, April + 2,Zif, May + 3,Siuan, June + 4,Tammuz, July + 5,Ab, August + 6,Elul, September + 7,Ethanim, October + 8,Bul, November + 9,Chisleu, December. Thus fulfilling the prophecy of Heggai 2:15-19, Jesus the Cornerstone was indeed born on December 25.
---Eloy on 10/7/09

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Interesting Eloy, but how does this comport with Luke's description of Elisabeth (John's mother) conceiving in the third month, Mary conceiving in the 6 month of Elisabeth's pregnancy and in town for the Feast of the Tabernacles in her 9th month, where there would typically be few rooms available at the Inn and thus Christ was born in a barn or temporarily homeless if you please.
The Feast of Tabernacles in the month of Tishri putting the birth of Christ sometime about now in either September and October?
If John was born during Nisan (March or April), Jesus was more likely "concieved" around Christmas and born in the month Tishri.
---larry on 10/6/09

YAHUSHUA (JESUS) was born on the Holy Day called the "Feast of Tabernacles" (4 Oct. 2009). YAHUSHUA was called "EMMANUEL", that is, "GOD dwelling with us." YAHUSHUA, the Son of GOD, came to Earth, to dwell among us in a temporary Flesh-and-Blood Body, a Tabernacle. The Holy Day of "Hanukkah", in December, is the Time when YAHUSHUA was conceived in the womb of Miriam (Mary) by the Holy Spirit SHKHINYAH. "Hanukkah" is the "Festival of Lights". For YAHUSHUA came as the Light of the World. The "Jewish" Holidays do not just remind the Jewish race of how GOD worked in their lives throughout their history. The "Jewish" Holidays point directly to the Messiah YAHUSHUA.
---Gordon on 10/6/09

You are right. He was not born on the 25th. No one really knows his b-day. And his b-day is not important to us. His preaching is. As for Christmas, you can celebrate. It really has no religious meaning at all.
---felix on 10/6/09

rhonda, you are not a part of my body nor a member of my family, and until you become born-again you will continue to bear false-witness and mock the light of Christ.
---Eloy on 10/6/09

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Betty, very good. Christians celebrate Christ at Christmas, but unChristed flesh doubts Christ, doubts creation, doubts many fundamental doctrines of Christianity, becasue their flesh rebells against the Spirit and does not want to be subjected nor transformed by the Spirit, but instead desires to live in their worldlyness and death. I have seen in this generation people questioning basic truths of Scripture like wild today as never before, as Satan the adversay and enemy of God's Word and our souls still tempts, saying, "Did God say...?" when knowing full well "God did indeed say."
---Eloy on 10/6/09

sonofturbo, the infant is quilt-strap in the winter when it is cold, just as scripture records. And there are scriptures found in both testmants together which give the exact month and day and year and hour of Jesus' birth. But unregenrate flesh whom thinks that they know better than the scriptures and what the Bible contains, even though they do not read nor study the scriptures are puffed-up in their vanity and ignorance, and they do not know as they yet ought to know. I have had people bear false-witness against me and call me a liar, but then after loosing their unChristlike pride and honestly reading the scriptures I cited, some of these actually repented or came to accept the truth.
---Eloy on 10/6/09

He tell us whether or not to drive cars. I bet you drive a car, don't you?

and that proves one should celebrate the god of this world suns-day at winter solstice because why?

christ-mass is not from or about Biblical Christ

MASS is a simply death sacrifice followed by rcc who adopted this pagan ritual

christ is rcc's sacrifice EVERY DAY

rcc sacrifices christ at their mass ritual EVERY DAY

christ-mass is sacrificing Christ to the sun-god for their winter solstice festival AGAIN adopted from pagans

when you say Merry christ-mass you LITERALLY say Merry Death of Christ

celebrate the day but you have NO CLAIM this day is for the Biblical Christ - NONE
---Rhonda on 10/5/09

The date is immaterial. Any day chosen to celebrate the goodness of God (Thanksgiving), his birth(Christmas) or his resurrection (Easter) are all good days.
Pagans have hijacked the holidays and are the worse of all church/state hypocrites, however the aforementioned holidays are treated at my church as very real opportunities for evangelism.
What we call CEO's (Christmas/Easter Only) church attendees are often ripe for the message of salvation during these holidays so don't miss the opportunity for some banal argument about wheather Christ was born in December or July.
---larry on 10/5/09

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rhonda- Christians made Christmas have something to do with Christ. It is to celebrate the fact that He was born into this world to save us from our sins. Jesus Christ's birth is what we celebrate, not the day itself. God didn't tell us to celebrate or not celebrate birthdays, nor did He tell us whether or not to drive cars. I bet you drive a car, don't you? The Christmas season celebrates Jesus Christ, and nothing is wrong with that.
---Betty on 10/5/09

Please in future blog rplies if a scripture is quoted give the scripture,
Luke 2:7 (King James Version)
7And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.
King James Version (KJV)
Exactly what about this scripture says that jesus was born on dec 25? it doesnt, it was a date that was chosen in 1500 ad. why does it matter that much to you people? He wasmt born on dec 25th, the bible doesnt give a date, it you claim otherwise please post the scripture stating DEC 25, you cant because the gregorian calendar wasnt even invented yet. Just accept the truth and move on, you were lied to, OMG guess what santa clause isnt real either.
---sonofturbo on 10/5/09

the magi? the 3 wise men as the fable goes ....scripture does not say how many came to visit Christ LIE OPENS THE WIDE GATE to many more ...doped up on lies unable to recognize or discern TRUTH or caring - preferring traditions of men Mark 7:6-9 RATHER THAN LOVE for Christ Deut 5:10, Dan 9:4, John 14:15, 21, 23, 24

the magi where magicIANS (not christIANS)

The magiians traditions was to give GIFTS to a King acknowledging Christ as a royal ruler

Matt 2:8,11 referst to Christ as a YOUNG child not a baby as the lie goes

ANOTHER Christ 2Corin 11:4 is "loved" on xmas ...TRUTH is xmas has nothing to do with Biblical Christ

xmas is simply a holiday of the world and ITS god 2Corin 4:4
---Rhonda on 10/5/09

Rhonda, I invite you to accept Jesus as your Savior, and then you too can know the documented truth of Bethlehem.

gnostics claim they have specialized "knowledge" outside of scripture or taking plain scripture and ADDING an idea that simply does not exist

YOU are a modern day gnostic making claims antichrist to Word of God and IGNORE Prov 30:5-6

I celebrate LIVING Christ High Priest and Messiah at right hand of The Father in Heaven whose birth date is unknown ...not suns-day heathen rituals adopted by rcc who slapped ANOTHER Christ over them 2Corin 11:4

rcc invented term christ-mass ...MASS is simply pagan ritual for death sacrifice ...merry death of christ
---Rhonda on 10/5/09

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Jesus was Born during the Jubillee year October 2, 7 BC. The time was celebration also of the Feast of engathering or Feast of the bibles where Jewesh will blow trumphet. The family radio holds actual calendar history even the creation of the world.
---ROSALIE on 10/4/09

The mediterranean climate in December is warmer then Northern England's and Alaska's. lit.Gk: "And she birthed the son of her, the first-born, and quilt-strapped him..." Luke 2:7. So when God's Holy word, along with the civil records also, reports that Christ was born on December 25, when the shepherds took their flocks out after supper, then which human is it to say "Not So"? or to say that, God's word is not true? Should one say that the prophesied, witnessed, and documented historical reality is a lie? The spirit of antiChrist rejects that Christ was born according to the scripture and according to the manifested truth. Whose report will you believe?
---Eloy on 10/5/09

somebody already stated but i wanted to confirm, sheperds did not hang out in the fields in the dead of winter, thats absurd. jesus birth was either in the late fall or early spring. to the jehovas witness who posted about the birthday. so wat if jesus nevr celebrated his own birthday. I dont like people wo try to make me feel guilty for celebrating something that i feel is important. with no holidays your life must be somewhat boring. Try to enjoy life a little bit huh, why else did god make us? it not like by wearing a halloween costume in october,you are spitting in gods face or something, poeple like an excuse to dress up and act silly and have a good time. there is nothing wrong with that. It not like anybody is worshipping pumpkins.
---sonofturbo on 10/4/09

Rhonda, Thank you for your opinions. After the magi knowingly celebrated Jesus birth in 5 B.C., afterward in the 4th Century A.D. Cyril the bishop in Jerusalem was given the actual date of Jesus birth from the chronicles kept in Rome. And from this time, throughout the generations, the Christians dwelling in Jerusalem and then spreading across the land were confirmed to celebrate Christ's birth every December 25th. Rhonda, I invite you to accept Jesus as your Savior, and then you too can know the documented truth of Bethlehem.
---Eloy on 10/4/09

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Jesus' witnessed, biblically documented, and historical birth was proven to be born in the 2nd hour of night, between 7 and 8 oclock Mediterraean time, on December 25th, 5 B.C.

first self professing "christian" quack making outrageous claim BOLDLY IGNORING Gods Warning Prov 30:5-6 by ADDING to Gods Word a claim it is "biblical" knowledge

sweety sorry to inform - gregorian calendar was not invented until sometime in 1500's separated by Julian calendar so it is beyond absurd and just plain foolish to claim Biblical Christ was born on 12/25 5BC as the date didn't exist

only pagans celebrated birthdays seeing no references in Bible for ANY of Gods CHOSEN people
---Rhonda on 10/4/09

No. Shepherds were not in the fields in the dead of winter.
---jerry6593 on 10/3/09

Jesus' witnessed, biblically documented, and historical birth was proven to be born in the 2nd hour of night, between 7 and 8 oclock Mediterraean time, on December 25th, 5 B.C., and has zero to do with any manmade mithra idol. Just as your birthdate has zero to do with any fairy tale that some imagined being was also born on your real birth date. "And now set now your heart, from this day and upward, before the stone was laid upon a stone in the temple of Yhwh: Now set your heart from this day and upward, from the twenty-fourth day of the ninth (ie, December, from Hb.Chisleu), from the day that the foundation of Yhwhs temple was laid, set your heart: form this day will I bless." Heggai 2:15,18,19.
---Eloy on 10/3/09

rhonda- If you don't want to celebrate Christmas, fine. People the world over know that Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ. Do you want to rob Jesus of the glory He receives from the Christmas season? Everything wrong in this world can't be blamed on the Catholic Church.
---Betty on 10/2/09

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Betty christ-mass is a "holy" season for MOTHER rcc who invented the term and ITS Jesus 2Corin 4:11

seeing you have zero scripture to support all of "holy" gibberish from your post ...christ-mass is a pagan heathen day VOID of The Father in Heaven ...christ-mass is the DEATH of christ ...MASS is just another adopted pagan tradition Mark 7:6-9 and per rcc its mass celebrates a sacrifice - DEATH ...christ-mass found NOWHERE in Gods Holy Word

True Christians celebrate LIVING Christ our High Priest and LORD who sits at right hand of The Father in Heaven - Christ is NOT DEAD

no small wonder Santa is laughing at Biblical Christ and his sacrifice for mankind when he says ho ho ho merry DEATH of christ
---Rhonda on 10/1/09

rhonda- Tell me what other Jesus was born of the virgin Mary, in Bethlehem, and is the Son of God that the Bible tells about? None. Christmas has given glory to Jesus Christ for centuries, and drew away pagans from pagan ceremonies. The false sun god was only a fallen angel (demon) that God Himself had created. The Son of God is remembered every Christmas, even by those who rarely think of Him the rest of the year. God wants His Son to be praised and celebrated. He has dealt with that sun-god issue long ago. Christmas is a holy season because it honors Jesus Christ.
---Betty on 10/1/09

No,Jesus was not brn on Dec 25th!
Accoding to PAGANISM, TAMMUZ, child of the sun-god was born on that day. His birth was hailed as a great miracle. Falling as it did during the slowly lengthening days, immediatly after the winter solstice, it was also seen as an omen of te sun's rebirth and was heralded by tumultuous rejoicing. Dec 25th was thereafter observed as the birthday of the son of the sun-god, and becae a yaerly feast throuhout he kingdom
---Pierr5358 on 10/1/09

Rhonda ... On Christmas day, I do not celebrate the death of Christ, and I know no-one (Christian or otherwise) who does.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/1/09

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No Jesus (Word God) He was not born on Dec 25th. In fact it is not recorded in the word what date He came into the world. One of the obvious reason why is because the date of his coming (birth) is not as important as the day of His death. In addition there is no place in the word which teaches us to keep the day of his coming ("birth"). In fact is written not to worship the True God as other heathen nations worship false gods. Deut 12:30-30, Jer 10:2-5, Gal 4:8-10. We are to worship according to his word, how can someone eternal have a true date of birth?
Christmas is not of God, but carnal minded men.

---Greg on 9/30/09

Christmas honors Jesus Christ, and nothing & no one else.

christ-mass is FROM RCC it is THEIR WORD and it "honors" HER (REV 17) death sacrifice adopted from pagans who sacrificed their children an abomination to God ...hence mass is KILLING Christ EVERYDAY ...per rcc their pagan mass ritual is their "worthy" victim to their god

TRUE Christians celebrate Christ at the right hand of The Father in Heaven - THE LIVING CHRIST

when one says "merry christ-mass" they are saying merry death of christ ...just like Santa LAUGHING at the Saviors death as he says ho ho ho merry death of christ

christ-mass honors ANOTHER JESUS 2Corin 11:4
---Rhonda on 9/30/09

Christmas honors Jesus Christ, and nothing & no one else. Just as in the past the Christians tore down pagan temples & built churches on the pagan sites to honor Jesus Christ, so the Christmas celebration replaced pagan celebrations held at that time of year. Christmas makes people think of Jesus and His commands & it's a good thing.
---Betty on 9/21/09

Jesus was born on the Feast of Tabernacles.

I did not work the details, I have only read them from a Jewish Voice publication.

You can read the details by Google "Jesus born on feast of tabernacles".

Makes sense, when you consider that the tabernacle was a temporary dwelling for God, and does that not describe our body?
---Mark_Eaton on 9/20/09

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Susie expected a *Halloween* question . . . giggling and oinking, here > I love the uniqueness of our answers (o: Well, that midsummer sounds good. But is Jesus embarrassed? Maybe *Satan* is not tickled that Jesus has moved in on sunny's birthday to get all the attention > like how Jesus took our place on the cross and took over instead of our sin (o: And to have a holiday during colder weather . . . this can help to generate charity for needy people. When Americans are moving into harder weather, Thanksgiving and Christmas can encourage us to help people > "you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good" > in Genesis 50:20.
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/20/09

Alan and Cluny,
I will say it again.I believe the tradition of celebrating Jesus' birthday on Dec.25 is an embarassment to Jesus.Jesus spoke of the traditions of men.Christian leaders should smoothly clarify this thoughtlessness of substituting birthdays even if it takes it's toll on church participation and practices.If it was not incorporated back then it would not be an issue today in misguiding truth seekers.
As poor judgement was then to compromise so it is now in maintaining clarity.This however it appears is historical and does not detract from individual saving truth.
---earl on 9/20/09

Hey! I have a "novel idea." Why don't we just celebrate the birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus EVERYDAY in our hearts and then we won't have to worry about which is right or"are we worshipping demons/pagan gods." According to what I have readpreviously, Jesus' birth would have happened sometime around Sept/Oct. Does it really matter? He IS God, let's focus on Him.
---tommy3007 on 9/20/09

\\I believe,after 2000 yrs., it is an embarassment to Jesus that it continues\\

Jesus assured me that He's not in the least embarassed and told me to tell you so.
---Cluny on 9/19/09

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Correction to everybody....Jesus was born on October 2,7 BC. He was Baptized on September 26, 29 AD. He was crucify April 1,33AD. This is a careful study from the Scriptures comparing the Hebrew Calendar into our Gregorian Calendar. October 2, 7 BC was exactly Jubilee year which means "Liberty"That is Liviticus 23:24.
---rosalie on 9/19/09

All that matters is that He came and died for us.

God Bless you and your question!
---amand6348 on 9/19/09

bible is silent on date of Christ's birth ...births were not celebrated by ancient Israel only pagans practiced birthday worship

The Father in Heaven would not lead anyone away from Christ by having His Son's birth the same day as the sun-gods day ...christ-mass started by rcc Rev 17 and her daughter Protest-ants follow her tradtions

ancient Israel spent generation after generation learning lessons of merging their lives into heathen counterfeit christianity openly celebrates pagan days calling them "christians days" deceived by generations of deception from the god of this world 2Corin 4:4, 11:4

christ-mass is a pagan celebration Mark 7:6-9 not from Holy Word of God
---Rhonda on 9/19/09

December 25th was just an arbitrary date chosen in the 4th century CE to bring more converts into the church as it was close to a old Roman God feast day.

Christ was born in the fall of the year, the date changes for read to year on the current calendar. If you want to be a Jewish Messiah and be the second Adam you have to be born on the date attributed to the creation of the first Adam, Rosh Hashsnsh.

There was no room in the inn as every one was going to the Temple for High Holy Days, any inn with in a half day of Jerusalem would be full. And sheppards would still be in the fields in the early fall not in late December.
---The_Friendly_Blogger on 9/19/09

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You could check Romans 14:5 and then decide if you want to observe Christmas. Paul leaves it entirely up to you!
---mugwump on 9/18/09

I think any day on the calander could be found to have some pagan connection! What does it matter?
Most calculations put the birth of Christ sometime in the approximate season. The important thing is That His Birth is worthy of celebration!!! May we always give glory to God as we celebrate the coming of Jesus to earth.
---Donna66 on 9/18/09

Lets see!

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Youre talking about god, right!

How about today, and tomorrow and the next day and forever!
What say ye?
Happy Birthdays!
---TheSeg on 9/18/09

as i understand it His actual birthday would have been in late june or early july,as if You are calling Your subjects to a census you dont want them traveling in winter because they will all die making the trip,and You do not want them traveling in spring because You hope they will plant crops,and You dont want them traveling in fall so they will be harvesting there crops,
so all that is left is mid summer.
---kevin on 9/19/09

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"it is an embarassment to Jesus that it continues"

Did He tell you He is embarrassed by this?
---alan8566_of_uk on 9/19/09

Oh, gee!

Are we talking about the origin of the Feast of the Nativity according to the Flesh of our Lord, God, and Saviour Jesus Christ for a change?

This is a new topic.

Actually, a historian named Something Africanus (can't think of his first name) suggested this in 211.

Edelsheim in his LIFE AND TIMES OF JESUS THE MESSIAH said that if all the incidents relating to the infancy of Christ happened in one year, His nativity would have had to take place in late December.
---Cluny on 9/18/09

Christians made many compromises long ago.
It is a early christian tradition to celebrate Jesus' entry into our world on Dec.25.I believe,after 2000 yrs., it is an embarassment to Jesus that it continues .A day of discovery would counter the compromises of our ancestors.
---earl on 9/18/09

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