Where Is Satan Today
Revelations is the book of future prophecies of the end times, and it consists of Satan being cast out of heaven. Satan gives rise to the anti-christ as a sign of his literal presence on the world. Then why do people say Satan's been cast out a long time ago?
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---Katherine on 9/28/09
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Im thinking there are the different roles the adversary plays- and- his
(Familiar spirits) are allowed on earth now-but-he may not be here in person yet--
It will be like in Gen 6
"But as the days of Noe were so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
"For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,"
---char on 1/5/13|
Rev 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Sa'-tan, which deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
*Dragon: one third with his tail
Rev 12:4 "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born."
*serpent: beguiled Eve Gen 6
*Will come in person (anti-christ)
---char on 1/5/13|
Satan is here on earth. If people insist Satan has been cast out they are deceived. Evil is from Satan, not God. If they believe Satan is not real then they must also understand they believe evil is from God.
The evil from Satan in this world is increasing every day, soon the Lord Jesus will return to bind Satan so he will have no influence during the millennium, then Satan will be let loose for a little while, and in the end after the 3rd resurrection, Satan will be cast out to outter darkness forever.
---Follower_of_Christ on 12/28/12|
Lk 4:8 "And Jesus answered and said unto him,
"Get thee behind Me, Satan:
for it is written, `Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.' "
Matt 4:10 :Then saith Jesus unto him, "Get thee hence, Satan:: for it is written, 'Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.' "
Deut 6:13 "Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and serve Him, and shalt sware by His name."
---char on 12/17/12|
Hi,Sis.Shira this ELENA looked & I found the verse believe the one you talking about it is Rev.12:10 takes as you say "And I heard a loud voice,Now is come salvation and strength,and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is
down,which accuse them before our God day and night. It mentions Satan in preceeding verse 9. Much love myfriend may God bless you! ELENA
---ELENA on 12/17/12|
satan is walking to and fro seeking whom he can devour. satan does go to heaven to accuse the brethren. I will find book and verse and record it here since I can't remember like I use to.
---shira4368 on 12/15/12|
Revelations: Satan being cast out of heaven.
Before the creation week he was cast out of the heaven where God resides.
Taking up residence in the atmospheric heavens above the earth. The angels fought with him during the time of Daniel.
Satan will be cast down from there during the time of tribulation as written in Revelations. I believe Jesus saw that day/time and spoke of it prophetically.
---jan4378 on 12/14/12|
Beloved,after much thought & really having some time to give only to God ...Now you take a pastor who really seeks to help ( ah Serve in the community ) among the poor, the lame,widows, latch key kids who are ignored..a servant as Christ commanded..a church of faith & love and church that Prays! Satan is Right there.Stand on Ps.64,Ps.1,Rev.12:11 To try and stop the move of God.. brother Pastor the evil one is after such a one as you but keep the faith.We are overcomers! Amen. ELENA
---ELENA on 12/9/12|
Brother Micha, don't give up on me already. There is a reason why you do not believe they were at the Throne of God. You must have been convinced of that for a reason. I believe the Spirit leads us to all Truth, not at the same time and on the same points.
You might know a lot that I don't, and I might know a lot you don't. And others might know more then both of us. I am willing to hear what you have to say. You might bring truth to me I have not known before that I need to know.
---Mark_V. on 7/18/12|
I cannot convince, only witness.
It will be the Spirit who will convict and convince one of us of our error in this matter.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
---micha9344 on 7/17/12|
Jason, that's really sad that you would rather worship a false god than the true God. I pray you'll change your mind before it's too late.
---Jed on 7/17/12|
brother Micha, I do understand what you are trying to convey. I am convinced in my heart that God holds council in His heavenly court, though He is Spirit and Omnipresent. The passage in (Job 1:6) indicates a location when it says
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them, and the Lord said to Satan, from where do you come from?" They came to God's throne to render account of their ministry throughout earth and heaven (1 kings 22:19-22). If you can convince me with Scripture that this event was not in Heaven, I will be happy to go over your response.
---Mark_V. on 7/17/12|
Jed: Give it up. You'll never convince a liberal to act like a Christian. Indeed, it is impossible for a true Christian to be a Democrat. The Democrat Party is the Party of Satan. They use his methods and promote his perverse lifestyle.
---jerry6593 on 7/17/12|
Jason, I'm sorry to tell you but satan is only one spirit and he is not Omnipresent as God is. He can only be at one place at a time. If he was in every Mormon or false teacher he would have to be Omnipresent. I don't think this blog is speaking about elections.
Satan and his demons do roam around the earth tempting people, accusing people, deceiving people, and possessing people. But have no power over the children of God. Greater is He that is in you, that he who is in the world.
---Mark_V. on 7/17/12|
god gives every one a choice it's also one of the benefits of living in a free society.this is atest by god to see if his so called flock actually hates enough to side with satan i beleive you so called christians do satan does to when you support republicans you support war, poverty, thousands dying for lack of health ins.and also greed. i know the god i worship is against all these things.obviously the god you worship isn't i don't think i want to worship your god
---jason_brown on 7/16/12|
satan is with anybody that adds or detracts from the bible example rommney being a mormon
---jason_brown on 7/16/12
Jason, you mean like Obama when he dismissed as obscure, the teaching of the Apostle Paul in Romans 1 that calls same-sex acts indecent and perverse? Or when he says that there are "many paths to heaven"? Or when he openly mocks christians who "believe in the inerrancy of the Bible"? Or when he even twists the Bible by applying biblical pages to his campaigns theme of political hope that actually refer to the hope Christians have in Christ? Or the way he twists selective scriptures to advance non-Biblical lifestyles using the golden rule to justify immorality?
---Jed on 7/16/12|
satan is with anybody that adds or detracts from the bible example rommney being a mormon missionary actively pushing the book of momon as the word of god true christians should not and cannot support this man he is cursed by god revelations chapter 22 verse 18 and 19
---jason_brown on 7/16/12|
I understand you still believe that the Job passages must refer to Heaven.
But to base many doctrines on this one interpretation leads down a slippery slope.
If your interpretation of Job 1:6 and 2:1 proves to be false, any doctrines(teachings, ideas, interpretations) based on that would also be suspect at best and downright rejected at worst.
Do you understand what I am trying to convey?
---micha9344 on 7/16/12|
Satan has been cast out of the heavens for the last days.
He cannot go back up. He is walking the earth now only trying to destroy all he can, for his time is short.
---michael on 7/15/12|
bro. Phil, I can see that disagreeing with you, is starting to get to you, for my name is Mark, not Marky. But I understand.
Concerning what John saw in the future (Rev. 12:9).
Satan and his demons were cast out of heaven at the time of their original rebellion, but still have access to it (Job 1:6: 2:1) That access will be denied, and they will be forever barred from heaven. That has not happen yet.
---Mark_V. on 7/14/12|
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Mark_V. on 7/12/12 said, (Luke 10:18) which indicates it had already happen(sic). Lets look Marky:
Lk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Using that reasoning then this also too must have happened.
Re 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit...and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Ya think? Or maybe they both were prophecies. What say ye?
---Phil on 7/13/12|
There is two descriptions of the first fall of Satan. One by Jesus in (Luke 10:18) which indicates it had already happen. And in (Ezekiel 28:12-16). This lament over "the king of Tyre" reached behind to the real supernatural source of wickedness, Satan (Matt. 16:21-23) where Peter was rebuked by the Lord, as under Satanic control and motivation. "You were in Eden" this refers to Satan in the Garden of Edn (Gen. 3:1-15). "Annointed cherub" this refers t Satan in his exalted privilege as an angel guarding (covering) God's throne, as a cherubim guarded Eden (Gen. 3:24). Satan originally had continuous and unrestricted access to the glorious presence of God.
---Mark_V. on 7/12/12|
Satan was cast to the earth by the curse given from God.
This was new, something that never happened before, a flash of light into darkness.
Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field, upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Luke 10:18-19a And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents...
1Pe 5:8b ...because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Job 1:7b ...Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
---micha9344 on 7/10/12|
I would suppose just 'cause he's here is enough to conclude that he's cast out. But understanding he's not, and that malignant forces occupy the heavens still, is for the mature in Christ. Discernment comes with usage of faculties. Today's "chew food" dished out every Sunday does little to equip believers. Their on their own, ultimately.
---Phil on 7/10/12|
Satan counterfits Christ's return when he falls as lightning from heaven. Earth will think he's Christ coming as lightning from east to west. Satan is the antichrist!
---michael on 6/22/12|
Clarance, the word "anti-christ" or "anti-christs" is mentioned in two small books in scripture, (1 John and 2 John) I will write only a few of thirteen.
1. Even now there are many antichrist ( 1 john 2:18)
2. This many antichrist "went out from us" ( 1 John 2:19).
3. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist (1 John 2:22)
4. These antichrist are trying to seduce us away from Jesus Christ ( 1 John 2:26).
5. There is a spirit of antichrist ( 1 John 4:3)
6. The spirit of the antichrist is already in the world ( 1 John 4:3)
7. There are many deceivers and antichrist in the world ( 2 John 7).
---Mark_V. on 3/1/12|
Mark. You are right, everything I write should be checked out in the Scriptures. One of the places you find who is the antichrist is 2TH.2:1-4, there he is called the son of perdition, we know that there is only one person that was sentenced to perish and that is satan. Rev.12:7-9 tells us that satan will be thrown down to earth, that hasn't happened yet because we know from 2TH.2:14 that he will claim to be God and deceive many who will no longer be virgins when Christ comes for his Bride. For those who think it already happen, remember that one day for God is a thousand years for us, so he's been gone for only a couple of days.
---Clarence on 2/29/12|
Steven G, very good point.
(1 Peter 5:8) clearly teaches that,
"Your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour" If he was locked up in heaven, how could he be walking about like a roaring lion? First it says "like a roaring lion" that that he is one. "Ready to devour you" does not mean his hungry for food, but to take you into sin. So if a person is not careful, they will fall for his temptations, he is very sneaky, dangerous and deceiving that people will not notice he was even there.
---Mark_V. on 2/29/12|
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The Book of revalation does not go futher that the time frame of SOON,NEAR, and AT HAND. It already happened, the entire book has been fufulled. Hence the words the time is near, and Jesus telling them 2000 years ago He's coming quickly!! And His reward is with Him!
---sam_bradford on 2/28/12|
Clarence, here is what you said,
"Some people say he was cast out a long time ago because they do not know better, the Scripture is the only source of truth, cursed is the man that follows man."
If Scripture is the only source of truth, and curse is the man who follow man, why should anyone follow what you said? you don't explain with the Word of God anything you said. So why should anyone listen to what you say?
1. Satan is locked up in heaven
2. Satan does not give rise to the anti-christ
3. Satan is a copycat.
4. People who believe satan was cast down don't know Scripture.
Can you, with Scripture backup what you say?
---Mark_V. on 2/28/12|
Where is Satan today?
He, and his minions, are standing right behind you waiting for a chance to devour you.
---Steveng on 2/27/12|
//Satan is still locked up in Heaven// clarence
i agree. however, i think that if paul mentioned a third heaven, then there must be at least two more. i believe the first is where our kites and airplanes fly. the second is extraterrestrial, which is where satan resides. and the third is where God "is". it is more relational than physical.
genesis and job indicate that satan had direct access to the earth. but, there is no indication that he has it now until he is loosed. but, i do believe that satan was allowed to dispatch some of his angels to dispatch immannuel.
---aka on 2/27/12|
Satan is still locked up in Heaven, he will be trown out on the sixth trumpet, sixth seal and sixth vial, thats why he is 666, he will not give rise to the anti-christ he will be the antichrist, satan is a copy cat, Jesus was known as the bright morning star [lucifer] now satan calls himself lucifer. Some people say he was cast out a long time ago because they do not know better, the Scripture is the only source of truth, cursed is the man that follows man. Always make sure by studying the Scriptures.
---Clarence on 2/27/12|
Eloy, very good point you made. I believe Legends was answering Amanda concerning how she feels about Daystar. And the display of the station using the name of Daystar. I too believe TBN is a station no Christian should watch, though every once in a long while a good preacher will come on.
About twenty one years ago I too watched it, but after many preachings I found out their teachings were not soundly based, in other words false.
---Mark_V. on 2/26/12|
Legends, Yes satan can "appear" as an angel of light. But "appearances" and "pretenders" are deceiving, for in truth satan is a devil of darkness and there is NO Light in him at all.
---Eloy on 2/25/12|
DAYSTAR is a good term. Jesus is called Daystar! Term is rendered MORNINGSTAR in many translations.
DAYSTAR(latin/Lucifer) in Isaiah14 context is used as a TAUNT/mockery against high-minded, self-exalted king Nebuchadnezzar.
Mocking/taunting calls someone something OPPOSITE of what you believe they are for the purpose of pointing out vivid flaws.
Example: When one is acting stupid and not receiving wise counsel, by mocking them we would call them SMARTIE or WISE-GUY or SMART-ALEC.
Like the words SMART and WISE, generally, DAYSTAR is a very good term to call and be called. UNLESS YOU'RE BEING MOCKED!
I don't suggest this to you since you are so smart. BUT if your beef with TBN continues, feel free to call them Daystar as mockery.
---Legends on 2/25/12|
Was reading the index of my King James Version Bible..looked at Lucifer....his latin transalation..DAYSTAR. That's all I have to say, that says it right there. No "christian" network would dare do something as stupid and slimy/slick as this. What did they think noone would put two and two together???????
---Amanda on 2/21/12|
Hello Wayne: I have a message for you. As a believer of YHWH you know HE answers prayers! Please take a copy of the Bible that you are using and a copy of KJV Bible that Christians use. At a place where nobody sees you (maybe your room), kneel down before God (like King Solomon did I Kings 8:54), present the 2 Bibles to HIM, ask HIM to tell/show you which of these 2 BIBLES contain MORE of HIS truth. God bless you more as you do so. Amen.
---Adetunji on 1/11/10|
there are fallen angels in the book of genesis they also breed women , they are called sons of God and they are called nephilims in the greek this means earthbound or ,fallen one,or giants(genesis6) the results of this off spring was giants they are also mentioned at sodom & gomorrah, jude6,7, . I believe these are ancestor of goliath. I have also read the writing of enoch who desribes these fallen angels by their name and the knowledge they exposed to men. There are some who have done studies on this and teach these are demonic spirits that are
so called space aliens . I follow the word of God and listen to what the Holy Spirit speaks to me concerning Gods word, not men
---ronmc on 1/7/10|
Satan is a deciever of women so I would imagine that he would be trying to operate through them.
---lisa on 1/6/10|
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Isaiah 14:15,16 Tell us that Lucifer will be brought down to hell and they that see him will wonder if he was the one that made the earth tremble and the kingdoms shake
Revelation 12:7-12 Describes the war in Heaven and how the "dragon and his angels" are cast out and neither was their place found any more in heaven That means he CANT go back, period!
It also shows us that before this great war he accused the brethren day and night before our God, meaning he had access to God just as he did in the days of Job.
When he is cast down a voice from heaven says Woe to the inhabiters of the earth...
This was not before Adam and Eve as church tradition has taught us.
---JackB on 11/16/09|
The Bible says when he is cast down he is gonna be full of wrath because he knows his time is short. He goes after the woman that brought forth the man child, showing that the birth of Christ is something from the past.
Believing what "we've always been taught" doesnt always line up with what the Bible says unfortunately. This is how cults get started.
Don't always believe what a man says simply because he bears the title of 'pastor'.
---JackB on 11/16/09|
Satan is not very creative, inventive. His ploy has always been and still is to get man to worship him instead of God. His tatics are to instill pride in a person. - Sandra
This is christianity at its best. christians do not worship YHVH, they worship a myth, a god-man just as the pagans do and did. And the pride they have keep them from accepting YHVH's Law. Oh you praise YHVH with your lips but your hearts are far from Him. And your pride keeps you from looking at the truth. satan has decieved most of you
---wayne on 11/16/09|
Satan is not very creative, inventive. His ploy has always been and still is to get man to worship him instead of God. His tatics are to instill pride in a person. Then, in this pride, he convinces the person that he (Satan) can help that person become rich, powerful, etc. This is the way Satan gets people to worship him.
Satan is alive and working feverishly in the earth today. You meet him every day, and you have the choice to follow him or obey God.
---Sandra on 11/15/09|
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I really do not want to look this up, so>>>>because the Bible also tells us of Satan's pride and trying to take God's throne away from Him [an insane idea for sure]. God kicked him out and Satan took the angels who also rebelled against God with him.....Hence, Satan was cast out of heaven a long time ago. Landed on earth and Adam and Eve ect.
---catherine on 11/14/09|
Joseph, you are correct that the two words have different meaning. Satan does have access to the heavenly realm. He goes back and forth but in Revelation 12:8-9 we are told "but they (Satan and his demons) did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great Dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan who deceives the whole world, he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him. "
Satan and his demons were cast out of heaven at the time of their original rebellion, but still have access to it. (Job 1:6, 2:1). That access will then be denied and they will forever be barred from heaven.
---MarkV. on 11/14/09|
In this verse, "...I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven..." Luke 10:18, we are aware that the Kingdom of God resides both inside and outside of linear time. Yes? Therefore the Holy Spirit resides both inside and outside of linear time: in eternity.
Satan has audience with God so as to accuse the brethren. Would that be possible were Satan to already be cast out of heaven, when viewed strictily from within human limitations of linear time?
We have a tendency to think the "world" is somehow important in the grand scheme of things. Be careful not to diminish Christ's victory over Satan by attaching mere human understanding of time to the realm of God. Eternity ain't limited by the mere ticking of clocks.
---BruceB on 11/13/09|
Unfortunately satan is very much alive and well on this earth today. I was mislead through a neighbor's bible study and became possessed. This is a warning for all christians everywhere. Satan is using verses in the bible and twisting them. Always remember to read the scripture above and below a "referenced" verse, so you can discern the content correctly. Satan is copying Jesus Christ. He is working overtime to win living stones (us) to build his own unholy body. He even fills your body, with a fake Holy Ghost. He performs miracles for those who worship him.
---rescuedfromthelion on 11/12/09|
I understood your post - thanks
Satan is the ruler of this world now ...he is the father of lies and prince and god of this world today
to understand the accounts of Satan cast down to earth LONG AGO one should look to Christs very own words: I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven Luke 10:18
this confirms the event already happened in Ezekiel and Isaiah
if this is a "future" event then Christ lied when he said he overcame the world
by overcoming the world Christ overcame the god of this world - Satan who was ruler than and now
future rulership of Christ on Earth occurs in the millennium - otherwise he would be ruling earth today and the resurrection is past
---Rhonda on 11/11/09|
I am longing for the day when there will be a true Christian Television Network which shares GOD'S TRUTH'S and not those television networks which cater to FALSE TEACHERS who use God and Christianity to make money (FLEECE THE FLOCK) for their GREED and their gain.
---Rob on 10/6/09|
Rhonda please forgive the typos of my prior post 'were' for 'where', 'casted' for 'cast' :o0 I trust that even with those mistakes the post was understandable. :o)
---joseph on 10/4/09|
Rhonda, look up the word "before" in the language used.
The same word, used in the same way, is found in Luke 1:15 translated presence, and in Acts 4:19 as in the sight of.
Every time the word 'enopion'' is used in scripture, it means the same thing, "in the presence of, of occupied place: in that place which is before, any one and towards which another turns his eyes."
I may very well be mistaken, however I have "ADDED" nothing that is not implied.
Jesus told Satan to get behind Him, that is were I believe He is. The word "behind" used there is the same word John used in Rev. 1:10.
Also consider that the words 'casted out' and 'fell' are different words, different meanings.
---joseph on 10/3/09|
According to Rev. 12:10 Satan de facto stands 'before' (in the presence of) our God day and night as accuser of the brethren until he is casted out.
you have ADDED the idea that Satan was in heaven and standing 'before' God Prov 30:5-6
In Rev 12:10 the loud voice was in heaven ...Satan was NOT
God is omnipresent ....mankind is in HIS presence as are ALL of HIS creation here on earth
Satan is the god of this world 2Corin 4:4, Eph 6:12 who was cast out of heaven Isaiah 14, Eze 28
the fall of Satan happened LONG before the creation of mankind ...otherwise Satan had NOTHING to GIVE Christ Luke 4:6-7
if Satan is still in heaven then mankind is STILL waiting for a Messiah just like the Jews
---Rhonda on 10/3/09|
Miche: I suspect you believe "the sons of God", in Job 1, were angels & the scene took place in God's Heaven. I don't believe that. :) I believe when God asked Satan about Job, He had to actually show Job to him. Why? Because Satan isn't omniscient (all knowing).
If it had happened in God's Heaven, when asked about Job (a man living on earth), Satan may very well have said, "WHO"? Since Job was on earth, God & Satan were also & "the sons of God" were God believing worshippers (people) of Job's day (to include Job himself).
God is Spirit & Satan is a spirit creature. So, the talk between God & Satan happened in the presence of, but unbeknownst to Job & the other people.
---Leon on 10/2/09|
"why do people say Satan's been cast out a long time ago?"
Because Jesus said "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." However, Jesus was speaking positionally of his fall spiritually. John was instructed to write the things he had seen previously, things currently happening, and things which were to come "hereafter". Rev. 4:1 begins the prophetic hereafter, (a foretelling of future events), to the time of the writing, ending with Rev. 22:7. According to Rev. 12:10 Satan de facto stands 'before' (in the presence of) our God day and night as accuser of the brethren until he is casted out. He currently roams the earth in spirit only as the mystery of iniquity, now working in the children of disobedience.
---joseph on 10/2/09|
First, there are three types of heavens. The first is the atmosphere that surrounds the Earth above. The second is Outer Space, where the planets, Sun, Moon and stars are stationed. The third Heaven is far beyond Outer Space, and is where GOD's Throne sits and where the heavenly Mansions of the Saints exists. First, after Satan's initial rebellion, He was cast out of the Third Heaven. He was the arch-angel close to the Throne of GOD, but, he lost that high position, and his place in Heaven. He comes before GOD to accuse the brethren, the Saints, but, he does not live there. He does, however have access to the second heaven and first heaven above Earth. Revelation is saying that, soon, Satan and his angels will be cast out of the second heaven.
---Gordon on 10/2/09|
If a person wants to see where Satan is, all they need to do is watch TBN or the Daystar Television Networks.
During their fund raising campaigns, they say they need money to spread the Gospel around the world, but they will never tell you the Gospel they are spreading is not the Gospel of Christ, Galatians 1:6-10.
The people on these networks tell you if you want to receive a blessing from God, you need to sow a seed (send money). These people in their GREED even have the nerve to tell people to send their money even if it means their children will go hungry.
These people will never, ever tell you that their FALSE TEACHINGS goes against what is written in Acts 8:20:23, and 1 Timothy 6:3-10.
---Rob on 10/1/09|
Jesus says: "All power is given to Me in heaven and on earth."
Who is right?
And this proves what in context to Satan who is god of this world?
seeing the account in Matt 28 where Christ is giving his Disciples a MISSION to spread the gospel of the Kingdom of God ...KNOWING Gods Kingdom is not here YET Matt 28:20
if Satan was NOT god of this world he had NOTHING to tempt Christ with in Matt 4
the earth is Satan's prison who was CAST OUT of heaven ...HERE on earth Satan RULES ....seeing promise of Christ's return has not been fulfilled 1Corin 15
---Rhonda on 10/1/09|
Leon, Have you read Job?
6Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
---miche3754 on 10/1/09|
Sometimes scripture flip-flops in time. One verse may mean one time period & another verse mean another time period.
Lucifer was in the Garden of Eden.
Job 1:7 "And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."
---Betty on 10/1/09|
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Cluny, I have to agree with you on your statement. God is ultimate Ruler of all, in heaven and on earth. Satan's power is limited to what God permits him with. The world is blinded by satan, not that He has the power to blind them, since they are blinded by the curse of Adam when they were born under sin. All Satan does is continues to work in their lives and they continue to do his will because they are lost.
---MarkV. on 10/1/09|
"Satan is obviously going back and forth between heaven and earth at this very hour." Mima, 9/30
If Mima is speaking of the heaven (sky & quarantine SPACE/gulf) above the earth, I agree. But, if he's implying a banished (exiled) unholy Satan can at will break confinement and travel back and forth between earth and the Heaven wherein Holy God resides, then I staunchly disagree. There's no "obvious" Bible evidence to support such a claim.
Satan and his demons are "obviously" locked down in God's maximum security prison (earth realm) until such time as they're cast into the Lake of Fire.
---Leon on 10/1/09|
Kathrine, I would go by Shawn T's answer. You have to remember when you read Revelation that some thing spoken, already happened, others are happening, and there will be future happenings as Miche also said.
Rev. 12:7-9, "The dragon was cast ..to earth" comment by John is a future act that will happen. Satan and his demons were cast out of heaven at the time of their original rebellion, but still have access to it (John 1:6, 2:1). That access will then be denied and they will be forever barred from heaven.
---MarkV. on 10/1/09|
Rhonda says: "Satan rules the world and ALL its governments ...otherwise he could NOT TEMPT Christ ....ALL Kingdoms/governments are Satan's to give Matt 4, Luke 4:6, Matt 12:25, Rev 12:9, Eph 6:12 including sovereign government of vatican"
Jesus says: "All power is given to Me in heaven and on earth."
Who is right?
---Cluny on 9/30/09|
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Satan has already been cast down to earth
Satan rules the world and ALL its governments ...otherwise he could NOT TEMPT Christ ....ALL Kingdoms/governments are Satan's to give Matt 4, Luke 4:6, Matt 12:25, Rev 12:9, Eph 6:12 including sovereign government of vatican
Satan is god and prince of this world 2Corin 4:4, John 12:31, 14:30, 16:11, Eph 2:2,3,5, 1John 4:4
Satan is father of lies 2Corin 11:31
Satan deceives the whole world Rev 12:9, Mark 8:36,
if Satan has not been cast down to earth yet then Matt 4 is a lie and Christ lied when he said he overcame Satans world Matt 16:33 and his death on cross was in vain there is no savior and so one would be like the Jews who are still waiting for a Messiah
---Rhonda on 9/30/09|
1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Job 1:7,2:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Mar 1:13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan, and was with the wild beasts, and the angels ministered unto him.
Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
---MIchael on 9/30/09|
Where is Satan today? I believe Satan and his crew are in Washington D.C. running our government. A part of his crew are also here in California running our government here. I suppose a part of his crew is also in every other state, running things there.
Part of Satan's crew is at many churches making sure church leaders continue to teach tithing and other laws that ended at the cross.
A part of his crew is also along side each one of us, hoping to make our lives miserable.
I don't know where the rest of his crew is right now.
---Gary on 9/30/09|
Satan is obviously going back and forth between heaven and earth at this very hour. You have heard that there will be a new heaven and new earth but why? Perhaps because both the present heaven and earth have been contaminated sin. How has it been contaminated by Satan who is himself SIN.
---mima on 9/30/09|
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Well said Samuel, simplistically enlightning.
Turn on the news and its evident he is alive and well and his behavior suggest he has a better understanding of the time and seasons than most Christians. He's busy as if time is short. Hmmmmmm.
---larry on 9/29/09|
Satan knows his time is short so he has been very busy using his servants (FALSE TEACHERS) like those of the Word of Faith/Name It Claim It/Prosperity Movement to do his work, 2 Corinthians 11:1-15.
---Rob on 9/29/09|
Satan is walking the face of the earth as a roaring Lion seeking whom He may devour.
---Samuel on 9/29/09|
There are things in Revelations that has already happend and there are things that are happening now, and things which are to come.
Jesus says he saw Satan fall, and many prophets of old testament speak about his fall and what happend. They all coincide with each other like pieces to a puzzle that fit perfectly.
We know what he looks like, how he will try entice us to sin, and what he will do and how God is defeating him right this moment.
---miche3754 on 9/29/09|
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\\Then why do people say Satan's been cast out a long time ago?
Because that's what Jesus said in the Gospel.
He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."
Is that good enough for you?
---Cluny on 9/29/09|
To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?
The confusion is stemming from the fact that Revelations is not JUST a Book of future Prophesies!!!!!
While the word prophecy does means by definition 'future occurrences', Revelations is made up of what has happen, what will happen and what could be happening at this very moment. All of which needed to be spoken into the earth because it was PreOrdained to be so.
When reading Revelations recall all of God's Word and don't allow your mind to be conformed to the lineal thinking of the world, but instead allow your mind to be Spiritually renewed & transformed by the Omnipresence of God's Word.
---Shawn.M.T. on 9/29/09|
Because of pride etc, satan was cast out of heaven. For he is the prince & the power of the air & world wide, even the god of this world (the god of sin & worldly pleasure etc to take peoples minds off & away from God Almighty).
God took on flesh & came to earth as Jesus Christ.
For satan still roaming world wide seeking whom he may devour, satan will take on flesh to be the anti-christ.
---Lawrence on 9/29/09|