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Is The Hebrew Bible Lost

The Hebrew Bible has been lost. Does any one know about any research or discoveries concerning this?

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Thanks friendly blogger. I'll check it.
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/9/09

There have been many books scholarly written on the Dead Sea Scrolls, but there is a reasonable article in the Wikipedia encyclopedia on the Dead Sea Scrolls. What document fragments were found in each of the eleven caves.

Many scrolls not included in the accepted OT canon.

One important statement: "It is now becoming increasingly clear that the Old Testament scripture [content] was extremely fluid until its canonization around 100 AD."

It will help answer a lot of these questions.
---The_Friendly_Blogger on 11/8/09

God is God,He will still have His way.
With or without the original Hebrew writings,we can still study and research.
What I see lost through translation is the
Letters of the prototypical ancient Hebrew are known to have specific meanings,the order of character forms are of the same pattern.
The mathematical expression in the Hebrew are lost with translation.
Spiritual significance of numbers:
two-denotes difference
three-denotes completeness
The Gemetria of the Parts of Aleph are from the Hebrew letters that form it.
(Vav=6,Yod=10)the two Yod's and one vav equate to 26.
The Name YHVH equal the same number.
---char on 11/7/09

The Hebrews (Jews) today have the Talmud, they don't need the lost bible!
Ask a Rabbi!
---1st_cliff on 11/6/09

You're one of a few that know this 1St Cliff.

It is easily computer. But, they have so hidden the anti-elements in these writings it takes some digging to get the light on.
I stated earlier what someone pointed to me...just because they say they are....does not make it so. We foolishly take it at their word....when we are told they are liars. Baaa,baaaa,baaaa
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie,
---Trav on 11/6/09

The Hebrews (Jews) today have the Talmud, they don't need the lost bible!
Ask a Rabbi!
---1st_cliff on 11/6/09

\\The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Samaritan Pentateuch(which is really the orginal Jewish text, altered), ... It's interesting stuff.
---Pastor_Jim on 11/1/09\\

If the Samaritan Pentateuch (or any text) is altered, by definition it's not the original.

My understanding, likewise, is that the DSS are closer to the LXX in many places than the present Massoretic.

Whether a discrete Hebrew ms underlying the LXX is likely to be found, I don't know.

As I said elsewhere, if the original, authentic 1 and 3 Corinthians were found, it would be interesting--but they would no more be part of the Bible than the Letter to the Laodiceans.
---Cluny on 11/2/09

The enemies of God's Word along with them whom choose to neglect God's published words, have many many times tried in vain to obliterate the Word from spreading across the land and from public availability. But the reason that the Hebrew Bible, along with the entire Holy Scriptures are not lost is because God himself is preserving them, and he desires people to come to repentance and to be saved. "The grass withers, the flower fades: but the word of our God will stand for ever. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away." Isaiah 40:8+ Matthew 24:35.
---Eloy on 11/1/09

Thanks Tom!

If you have a link let me know. It would be great if it were the real 1st Corinthian. Since currently we have only 2nd and 4th Corinthians in our Bible. We're missing 1st and 3rd.
---Paster_Jim on 11/1/09

jim,the only thing I have heard about recently is the discovery of some fragmented popyros found that have been tested and dated to mid first century that are new testament scripture. Now Iam not sure about where they were found,and I believe they were first timothy,and first cor.
---tom2 on 11/1/09

Tom you're right about the accuracy of scripture.

The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Samaritan Pentateuch(which is really the orginal Jewish text, altered), The Murabbaat Caves agree almost to the word with the LXX and not the Massoretic Text (Written 500-1000A.D.). So Im not concern so much about the accuracy, but I wanted to know if any MS scrolls etc have been found lately. It's interesting stuff.
---Pastor_Jim on 11/1/09

"Is Cluny a troll?"

Well, he did claim to live in middle earth.
---jerry6593 on 11/1/09

\\Is Cluny a troll?

He seems to attack all the posters here.
---Pastor_Jim on 10/31/09\\

Only those who don't seem to know what they are talking about.
---Cluny on 10/31/09

the oldest hebrew text which is not complete,but fragmentory dates to the 2nd century bc,the oldest complete surving text that has been documented ,but is translated into greek dates to the fourth century to answer your question,no there is no complete, original hebrew old testament in existance.But most scholars concede that todays old testament has been preserved from past texts.why? because the early church as we today are profoundly compelled to perserve Gods word. Jesus spoke many times of fullfilling phrophecy,and the words used by him are the scriptures in todays old testament.
---tom2 on 10/31/09

The Hebrew Bible has not been lost. You can read a copy of the Aleppo Codex online, at- aledothebrewtanakhdotcom. And you can buy your own copy for 93 dollars and 75 cents, called The Jerusalem Crown, at- wwwdotjewishpubdotorgforward slashproductdotphpquestion markidequal sign331
---Eloy on 11/1/09

Is Cluny a troll?

He seems to attack all the posters here.
---Pastor_Jim on 10/31/09

\\If you are looking for books that teach against verbal plenary preservation of the word by God, they are out there as well, and are entirely wrong.\\

A concept the Bible itself does not teach. This is a theory imposed upon it from the outside.
---Cluny on 10/31/09

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Let me restate the question...

The orginal Hebrew OT manuscripts are lost. We know that the Masoretic text, as well as the Vulgate and the works of many 1st century scibes(i.e.Akiba/Aquila) and many other have used those MS.It is also quoted in the NT. James used it exclusively, but use the LXX for the Decree of the Gentiles. They have existed up around 500A.D. We have the LXX not the Hebrew. We also know the there were 3 complete OT scrolls in the Temple and it is believe 1 or 2 of these were rescued. My question is has anyone heard of any new info on this. Perhaps a find in some Ganiza. I alway ask this question as I am doing research on this myself
---Pastor_Jim on 10/31/09

It's on sale at many bookstores. And freely available both on the internet and in various Bible programs. If you are looking for books that teach against verbal plenary preservation of the word by God, they are out there as well, and are entirely wrong. If you are saying that God has not saved it textually and in its principles you are wrong. Psalm 12:6-7, Matthew 4:4, 5:17-18, 24:35, Mark 13:31, Luke 21:33, John 16:12-14, 2Peter 1:21.
Pastor Jim: with what type of congregation are you affiliated?
---Glenn on 10/31/09

Do you actually think that Moses one day remarked to his brother Aaron, "Guess what, bro? I'm writing the Bible!" and then continued inscribing the Torah and Job (traditionally by Moses, and some say the oldest book in the Bible)?
---Cluny on 10/31/09

if you mean any original copies iam not sure.
---tom2 on 10/31/09

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I don't quite know what you mean by this.

The Hebrew Masoretic text wasn't stabilized until the 12th century after Christ, true.

There is evidence that the Hebre text underlying the Septuagint is much older.

Or by "Hebrew Bible", do you mean the original mss?
---Cluny on 10/31/09

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