Rhonda: you made a huge mess up of your last statement!!! If you reject the council of Nicea, then you must, of necessity, reject the whole Bible! will you do that? Of course no, but that's just because you don't actually know what Nicea was! In the 4th century AD, the church (which until then only had the old testament) began to have problems with falst teachings, and so they decided there must be a way to decide which writings (after Christ) were scriptural and which were not. The first wrote the Nicean Creed (obtainable on line), and then, from that, picked the 27 books that are now the New Testament. Reject Nicea, and you also reject the Bible. Will you do that?
---peter3594 on 4/15/10|
According to historical records, Lent was observed very early (granted a Lenten fast lasted exactly 40 days was not observed everywhere, but very early we can see some type of Lenten Fast observed), as it is evident from a passage quoted by Eusebius (Church History V.24) from a letter of St. Irenaeus to Pope Victor in connection with the Easter (Pascha) controversy, which discussed a debate not only on the time of keeping Pascha but also regarding the preliminary fast.
Tertullian, a 2nd century Christian apologist, also mention some type of forty days fasting (On Fasting 2 and 14, cf. On Prayer 18).
As far as Sola-Scriptura, that is your philosophy, not mine or the Holy Scriptures.
---Ignatius on 4/14/10|
Lent did not originated in the RCC. It was present in the Early Church, however, it was a long development. It centers around Christ.
The Early Church had nothing to do with lent it is a pagan tradition HENCE the Apostles wrote nothing about it
religious christianity introduced the pagan custom of lent and superimposed this over the Holy Day of Passover 1Corin 5:7-8 in other words they abolished Passover to start honoring pagan traditions which Christ WARNS True Christians to not do Mark 7:6-7
lent introduced at council of nicea 325AD it was NEVER observed prior to this time and nowhere is this abomination implied in scripture
---Rhonda on 4/13/10|
Pastor Jim, you read as a very angry man among Christian brothers and sisters.
Ask God to take you back to the point where you first became bitter and receive his healing.
Donna, Cluny, Alan and others are wonderful brothers and sisters in Christ. Leave the yelling (CAPS) for his praise.
---larry on 4/13/10|
Yes, the time is from the 40 days Christ spent in the wilderness. I would say it is a nice habit for some, at least those who find food some kind of temptation (which it certainly can be), but not a necessity for all
---peter3594 on 4/13/10|
Women weeping for Tammuz is where lent comes from:
Ezekiel 8:13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, [and] thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.
Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which [was] toward the north, and, behold, there sat .
Ezekiel 8:15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen [this], O son of man? turn thee yet again, [and] thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
---francis on 4/8/10|
\\ I kind of think it a joke for us to think that not eating our nearly favorite food or giving up a nearly favorite activity could in anyway resemble what Jesus did in the wilderness.\\
Anytime we say, "No" to a little thing like food or a favorite harmless activity makes it easier to shout, "NO!" to big things like sin.
---Cluny on 1/18/10|
Did God instruct us through His prophets to practice this?
Did God through His Word tell us to do this?
In other words...
Did Jesus pratice this or give instruction to us on how to do so?
If so,what are God's instruction exactly?
Maybe if we study where this is written,
we can have a better understanding of it.
---char on 12/27/09|
Jody "If ya want to celebrate lent, then go without food, sleep, human interaction and water for 40 days."
That is not what Lent is about, at least not in Eastern Orthodoxy.
You really have no clue what Lent is.......
---Ignatius on 12/14/09|
Jesus never implied that we need to spend 40 days in any type of deprivation. He did say to fast and pray in order to deliver one from horrific demons. I kind of think it a joke for us to think that not eating our nearly favorite food or giving up a nearly favorite activity could in anyway resemble what Jesus did in the wilderness. Symbolic? No...a joke which is somewhere close to mockery. If ya want to celebrate lent, then go without food, sleep, human interaction and water for 40 days. But plllleeese don't mock Jesus' experience by depriving self of something trivial. Peace in Christ to you, Jody:)
---jody on 12/13/09|
Lent did not originated in the RCC. It was present in the Early Church, however, it was a long development. It centers around Christ. During Lent, we Orthodox Christians prepare, through prayer, penitence, etc, for the Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ and Pascha (the Resurrection of Jesus Christ). The number "forty" (which is associated with Lent, 40 days) has biblical significance (for example, Christ fasted for 40 days).
In the second century, it was customary for Christians to fast for one or two days before Pascha. Gradually, the fast increased to a week (Holy Week) and then forty days.
Nothing is anti-biblical about Lent, and many Protestant denominations still observe it.
---Ignatius on 12/14/09|
" It is assumed that it came from ancient paganism [....]"
Yup, I stop reading your post after this sentence......."It is Assumed"? Yup, I trust in these "assumptions" as authentic historical truths.....(sarcasm)
---ignatius on 12/14/09|
\\Stick with the older books. They tend to be more accurate (less revisionist).
---jerry6593 on 12/11/09\\
If it's wrong to say that Lent started in Babylon in Ralph Woodrow, it's wrong in His-slop.
---Cluny on 12/13/09|
Cluny: I'll bet you just looked that up, didn't you?
Did you investigate Ralph Woodrow? I did. Guess what:
Ralph Woodrow has reversed his position taken in Babylon Mystery Religion and is no longer publishing the book. Woodrow said this about his book, "While many of the conclusions are valid, I came to realize that the way to get there was not always correct."
Stick with the older books. They tend to be more accurate (less revisionist).
---jerry6593 on 12/11/09|
\\ Cluny: Coming from the Anglo-Saxon Lencten, meaning spring,\\
In most European languages, this is called something that means "Forty Days" (Tessarakosti in Greek, Quadragesima in Latin, something phonetically similar in Romance languages).
Ralph Woodrow did a digest of His-slop's work called MYSTERY BAYBLON REVEALED.
He had the grace and courage to withdraw it when he discovered how full of historical errors (especially about Lent) it was.
---Cluny on 12/10/09|
Cluny: Coming from the Anglo-Saxon Lencten, meaning spring, Lent originated in the ancient Babylonian mystery religion. The forty days abstinence of Lent was directly borrowed from the worshippers of the Babylonian goddessAmong the Pagans this Lent seems to have been an indispensable preliminary to the great annual festival in commemoration of the death and resurrection of Tammuz (Alexander Hilsop, The Two Babylons).
---jerry6593 on 12/9/09|
Jerry, I believe you are correct with your answer. Lent has nothing to do with with the Bible, and doesn't appear in it. It is assumed that it came from ancient paganism. In was believed that Tamuz or Baal was killed by a wild boar, when he was killed his mother Semiramis, the high priestess of Babylonian paganism, mourned for him and cried for him for forty days, and at the end of those forty days, he was risen from the dead. So the whole concept of the forty day mourning and going without eating or fasting has absolutely nothing to do with the resurrection of Christ. But was impost on Christianity from pagan mystery religions of Babylon. Many pagan believes entered the early church.
---MarkV. on 12/9/09|
\\ Cluny: One has to wonder which side you're on.
---jerry6593 on 12/8/09\\
Your passage about Tammuz has nothing whatsoever to do with the Christian custom of Lent.
You are merely reading your preconceptions and biases into the passage.
This, btw, is called "eisogesis".
People do the same thing to come up with the pre-trib rapture.
---Cluny on 12/8/09|
1 Cliff, I do believe my faith in Christ works is the right faith. If it was not, I would not be following it. And I do embrace it. I don't know about others and cannot speak for them.
My answer about Rhonda was correct. The intentions behind answering have a lot to do with the motives behind why anyone answers. I do believe to celebrate lend is wrong. But my answer was to her statement that it was introduced to Mock Christ. It was introduced by people who were in the Church who brought their pagan religions to the Church. Yet there is no way anyone can know the reason. But has nothing to do with the resurrection of Christ.
---MarkV. on 12/8/09|
Cluny: One has to wonder which side you're on.
---jerry6593 on 12/8/09|
\\Eze 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north, and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
It was called an abomination in scripture. Perhaps it still is.
---jerry6593 on 12/7/09\\
And how many people who observe Lent that you personally know are weeping for Tammuz?
And is there a distinction between weeping for anyone and fasting, or are they interchangeable terms?
---Cluny on 12/7/09|
Mark V, Our country fought and is still fighting so we may enjoy "freedom of religion" Everyone believes their "faith" is the right one and have a "right" to preach it ,same as you!
If you agree with it--embrace it
If you don't--discard it!
Is my belief "the absolute truth?" (probably not, but it works for me!)
Like it or not, your belief is your "opinion".
---1st_cliff on 12/7/09|
1Cliff, it depends what kind of seeds she is planting. And the seeds that separate one brother from another are not seeds of God's Word. They are seeds coming from her and her understanding of a denomination. Nothing she said comes from Scripture only her own studies. What Rhonda did with lend was to put down what she learned and believed just like the RCC did with many traditions, to put their own opinions and not the Word of God.
And, getting an ok from you, is not the greatest thing in the world either.
---MarkV. on 12/7/09|
Rhonda: The practice of Lent is is found in the Bible, although it is not given a name. It predated the Hebrew nation, as a 40-day period of mourning for Tammuz, the illigitamate son of Semiramis, Queen of Babylon.
Here's the scripture:
Eze 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north, and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
It was called an abomination in scripture. Perhaps it still is.
---jerry6593 on 12/7/09|
\\The MOTHER RCC Rev 17 instituted LENT to mock Christ and the Passover he instructed TRUE Christians to observe
---Rhonda on 12/5/09
Rhonda, the Church at Rome was the LAST to adopt the Lenten Fast.
---Cluny on 12/6/09|
Rhonda,Can I offer you a little advice??
I am one of the very few who know where you're coming from,(I've been there too)
Sometimes you feel like you'd just like to reach out and swat someone, I learned that the "meek" inherit the earth!
Offer the findings of your study, if it falls on deaf ears ,so be it.
Some seeds fall on bare ground, some on fertile soil, It's God that makes it grow!
The watchman just sounds the alarm, he doesn't take part in the fight! agape
---1st_cliff on 12/6/09|
Rhonda ... None of the passages you quote mention Lent, or your alleged pagan predecessor.
"The MOTHER RCC Rev 17 instituted LENT to mock Christ" Presumably you have documented facts to back up this allegation?
However wrong the RCC may have been in their doctrine and practice, and in their way of worshipping Christ, it is only the twisted imaginations of those such as you who claim that RCC wanted or want to mock Him.
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/6/09|
Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day [alike]. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
Colossians 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, [do] all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Titus 2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity, that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
---MIchael on 12/6/09|
Rhonda, much is wrong in the RCC, But your statement is not correct. You said,
"The MOTHER RCC Rev 17 instituted LENT to mock Christ and the Passover he instructed TRUE Christians to observe"
I don't know what or from where you got that. Christ is our passover 1 Cor.5:7-8. Just as unleavened bread symbolized being freed from Egypt by the Passover (Ex. 12:15-17) so the Church is to be unleavened, since it has been separated from the dominion of sin and death by the perfect Passover Lamb, the Lord Jesus Christ. "Keep the feast" As the Jews who celebrate Passover do so with unleavended bread, so believers celebrate their continual Passover with unleavened lives" Where is the mocking?
---MarkV. on 12/6/09|
religious christianity adopted pagan lent honoring Tammuz Ezek 8 ...LENT is simply VOID of Gods Holy Word
people within this religion have submitted their wills and minds to a MORTAL man and mens traditions Mark 7:6-7
brainwashed to believe they mimic Christ Matt 4:1-2 ...LENT is antichrist to scripture Matt 28:19-20 ...Christ never observed ancient superstitious custom of lent and never commanded anyone to do so clearly understood by Apostles who never observed
only TRUE Christians believe and follow EVERY Word of God Matt 4:4
The MOTHER RCC Rev 17 instituted LENT to mock Christ and the Passover he instructed TRUE Christians to observe
---Rhonda on 12/5/09|
--MarkV. on 12/4/09 MARKv is right I know lots of Catholics that believe true doctrine as I know other denominations that do also.
---exzucuh on 12/4/09|
Donna 2: This is not to absolve the RCC for many of their terrible teachings. But we have to consider the fact that the elect are everywhere, many in the RCC, who have come forward and who will come forward and make a confession of faith. You are condemning everyone in the RCC. I knew some great loving people in the RCC who only loved Christ with all of their hearts many times even better then some I hear here on line. And no one can have a true love for Christ if they are lost. All they talked about was Christ and never anything negative to anyone. I know and believe also as Exzucuh that bringing judgment on everyone is not right. As he says, there is tares in every denomination, it is a matter of semetics as to the numbers in each one.
---MarkV. on 12/4/09|
Donna, I also agree with you that when a person come to Christ, is born of the Spirit, he will realize that where he is attending, in this case the RCC, that they are worshipping Idols. I too left because of that. Many of their rituals are directed at salvation by works. And anyone who stays, is in danger of falling back to the old ways. But if he is a genuine believer, only God knows who they are, he will never let a child of His completely fall since God will sustain him. God might want him to stay there for the purpose of helping others learn about the Truth. We just don't know the details of God's work. Also Alan is correct in that celebrating the birth of Christ does not mean we are celebrating in favor of any Emperior.
---MarkV. on 12/4/09|
Donna I greatly admire your witnessing to the Catholics concerning the Catholic Church.
The same people would want you to notify them that their house was on fire should you happen by when it was on fire. I understand that you know that their house is on fire from having been scorched a little by the same fire yourself, and you are desperately trying to warn them and for that I applaud you and am thankful to God for you.
---mima on 12/2/09|
Conna ... Since that is what you did, it is right for you.
It is right for younot to observe the Birth of Christ nor His Resurrection. I don't tell yuo that you have to.
But you are imposing a man-made rule on others that we should not observe those events. That prohibition is not biblical.
I don't follow man made rules, but you try to impose some on me.
Who is being pharisaical?
You have this absurd fixation that when we celebrate His birth we are not doing do, and that we do not celebrate His Resurrection.
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/2/09|
All Catholics do not believe the same, Just like all Baptist,Pentecostals, don't believe a like. You need to move on from your catholic phobia. You keep attacking them as you do and God will deal with you. If you want to reveal false doctrine that is fine, It is in all churches. You worship a three headed trinitarian god, That is not in the scripture. Others worship Mary or pray to statues of Jesus. Some will not be saved until the rapture
Others are saved and can sin all they want, Some can't be saved unless the go to church on Saturday.Some have to wear special clothes and live by rules their churches make. Some have to speak in tongues to be saved. The bible only teaches you have to obey the Gospel to be saved.
---exzucuh on 12/2/09|
exzucuh and AlanofUK, did you ever stop and think that if a person gets saved while in the Catholic Church, that they will COME OUT FROM AMOUNG THEM AND BE YE SEPARATE SAYS THE LORD? and they will STOP following man-mad rules such as praying to Mary.
I was raised Catholic and if you told me I would become born again, and develop a love relationship with God, I would have laughed at you 26 years ago, but here I am an ex-Catholic who truly loves the Lord God Almighty and following HIM, not man-made RULES.
You two are proving that what I said was right, "Let him who has ears, HEAR what the Spirit of God is saying." "While seeing they do not see, while hearing they do not hear is what Jesus was saying in the gospels.
---Donna on 12/2/09|
Mardi Gras, literally "Fat Tuesday," has its roots lie in the RCC Christian calendar, as the "last hurrah" before Lent begins on Ash Wednesday. That's why the enormous SIN-FILLED party in New Orleans, for example, ends abruptly at midnight on Tuesday.
What is less known about Mardi Gras is its relation to the Christmas season, known in many Catholic cultures as Carnival.
Carnival comes from the Latin words carne vale. Like many Catholic holidays and seasonal celebrations, its roots in pre-Christian traditions based on the seasons. As early as the middle of the second century, the Romans observed a Fast of 40 Days, which was preceded by a brief season of feasting, costumes and merrymaking.
---kathr4453 on 12/2/09|
Pastor J ... "Your posts are just like the Pharissees" The Pharisees insisted that the rules be followed all the time ... just as you do.
No-one here has insisted you follow their traditions so they can't be accused of being like the pharisees.
What on earth does "You do not hear your own words" mean?
You are the one issuing Pharisaical condemnation all the time.
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/2/09|
Donna has it right!
So you either follow God or the Pagan Roman Emperor Constantine. One or the other is your Master.
Since YOU choose to OPPOSE God to defend your Manmade Traditions, Sacred Cows/Idols of YOUR Church. Then you are NOT part of Him and His words are not in you. Your posts are just like the Pharissees. The ones Christ issued the Woes to. You do not hear your own words and are therefor blinded to the truth.
Enjoy your Shrouded Country Clubs with it's Heresies and Traditions and await your Jealous God who will consume you for many many reasons. Not the lease of which is your observance of Pagan Rituals and Holidays over the Holy Days of God. Which YOU have denegrade and dubbed "Jewish Holidays"
---PASTOR_JIM on 12/1/09|
Donna ... Exz is right ... you should not judge all men by the actions of one. None of my RC friends live in fornication. What does spirit filled mean? You don't have to speak in tongues for that. What does Born Again (with CAPS) mean? Nothing more than "converted" meant in the days when I was saved.
I am in a close relationship wqith the Lord, and He has shown me that I should celebrate the birth of Jesus (OK maybe not at the actual anniversary of that) and His Resurrection (which I do whenever I take communion) And they are not pagan.
That's what the Lord tells me & it is right for me altho' it may not be what is right for yuo/
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/1/09|
\\You follow manmade rituals in the Face of a Jealous God. Thereby committing adultery. \\
Pastor Jim, does YOUR church have presbyters and deacons ordained by bishops in the apostolic succession?
If not, then YOU are following "manmade rituals in the Face of a Jealous God. Thereby committing adultery."
---Cluny on 12/1/09|
This is a very true statement: Neither did Jesus instruct us to observe pagan rituals (Lent, Easter,Christmas)
If you are in a close relationship with the Lord, He will show you what Festivals and Holy days we as Gentile Christians are to celebrate. 1) Passover 2) Rosh Hannah 3) Yom Kippur 4) Feast of Tabernacle.
We are to celebrate HIS holy days. Every year God waits for us to come and celebrate HIS calendar holy days, but we choose to celebrate Christmas, Easter, all the pagan ones...why is that? Don't we get it yet? Let him who has ears to hear, hear what the Spirit of God is saying....PLEASE HEAR with your spiritual ears.
---Donna on 12/1/09|
Judging all Catholics by what you think a catholic is will put you in the category of a hypocrite. Within the churches of God on the earth are Some wheat and some tares and they will grow together. You suffer from Elijah syndrome thinking you are all alone you are so righteous, God told Elijah he had reserved 5000 that had not bowed their knees to Baal.
---exzucuh on 12/1/09|
alan of UK, you said: Donna ... "I'm a Born-Again, Spirit filled, blood bought, redeemed, justified, sanctified child of God"...Like most Christians, including RCs.
My Catholic friends, and I have three of them. They are NOT spirit filled, they pray to Mary and Mary isn't sovereign, she's not all-knowing or all-powerful. They live in fornication with a man and then abstain from eating meat during lent on Friday's....that is not a Born Again, Spirit filled person, I'm sorry, but you are WRONG. Catholics are not repentent sinners. They do Rituals...they follow Rituals of the Catholic Church, I don't. I follow the Word of God. They don't even know what the Glory of God is.
---Donna on 12/1/09|
If you bothered to read my post fully, you would not misquote me.
Christians do not observe pagan rituals.
Lent has been described here, as have Christmas and Easter.
You've been told what (most) Christians do at those times.
Yet you tell them they do something else. Can you get in someone else's mind?
I for one know what I do.
Cliff ... the fasting is said by Pastor J to be pagan ... so that means Christ followed a pagan ritual, whenever it was
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/1/09|
ALAN SAID:"all Christian groups spring from the Catholic Church".
NOT MY CHURCH! I OBEY HIM! NO ONE ELSE!
Neither did Jesus instruct us to observe pagan rituals (Lent, Easter,Christmas)
I've given you the scriptures(Absolute Truth) pertaining to this, Pre Trib, other heresies. Yet you don't hear HIS words. Because His word is not in you, otherwise you would hear Him and be healed.
You follow manmade rituals in the Face of a Jealous God. Thereby committing adultery.
You accused me of comdeming you, when it is NOT me who wrote these verses. If I am NOT your enemy, then HE who wrote them IS! If what I quoted offends you it is because you are NOT part of Him. Otherwise you would accept His words with JOY!
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/30/09|
Alan, Jesus spent the 40 days in the wilderness "before" His ministry,
Lent is observed before commemorating His death...where's the connection???
There's a 3 1/2 year gap between the two!
---1st_cliff on 11/30/09|
Donna ... "I'm a Born-Again, Spirit filled, blood bought, redeemed, justified, sanctified child of God"...Like most Christians, including RCs.
Nearly all Christian groups spring from the Catholic Church.
The fact is that "Lent is a time when (many)Christians remember the 40 days and nights Jesus spent alone in the desert without food, etc."
It's what I do and I am no RC.
Perhaps RCs do not eat meat on Fridays or during Lent ... why should it matter that Jesus did not give this instruction? Jesus did not give any instruction to abstain from alcohol, but many do.
I'll bet there are many things you do, not instructed by Jesus, to remind yourself about His sacrifice for us.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/30/09|
alan8566 of UK, while I honor you and DEEPLY respect you as a brother in the Lord, a man of God, who loves the Lord Jesus with all of His heart, I must correct something you said, in humility of course. I mean no judgement when I say this...but you said, "Lent is a time when Christians remember the 40 days and nights Jesus spent alone in the desert without food, etc."
I believe Lent was invented by Catholics, it is a man-made rule/custom that they don't eat meat on Fridays during lent, the time leading up to Easter. I'm a Born-Again, Spirit filled, blood bought, redeemed, justified, sanctified child of God and I don't do lent. I fast ALOT but I eat meat on Fridays during lent because Jesus never told us not to.
---Donna on 11/30/09|
Pastor J ... All that you have so accusingly and insultingly said so far here is a total lie about what Christians celebrate at Christmas, do during Lent, and celebrate at Easter.
But now, just to open up the debate, can you tell us what is your "ABSOLUTE TRUTH"
I'll tell you what mine is (off-the-cuff & necessarily drastically abbreviated)
That "Jesus came here, to be born as a human baby, to preach and teach, and then to willingly suffer and die, in order to save us from our sins"
Now yours, please?
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/29/09|
Sorry I had stabbed your SACRED COW of your "MENS TRADITIONS ABOVE GOD" CHURCH, But I speak the THE TRUTH and I have no Church to defend, only the Word of God and The Church of Jesus Christ.
AS THE LORD SAID, I HAVE SPOKEN IN THE OPEN AND IN THE TEMPLE, OF WHICH OF THESE DO YOU COMDEMN ME???
Jesus DID NOT spend 40 days of Lent after he went to Mardi Gras and then went to the cross right after and died on ISTER SUNDAY DID HE!!!!!
Sadly deluded people as yourself continue down you ignorant path of defend the honor of your Churchs(Country Clubs) Traditons even against God Himself. willing to go to Hell over these false traditions! There's only ABSOLUTE TRUTH and it not at your so called Church!!!
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/29/09|
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\\It is a Pagan Tradition following a Pagan Heathen Party(Mardi Gra) leading to the worhsip of the Goddess Ister (what ignorant so-called Christians call Easter). \\
Pastor Jim is wrong again.
Except when Pastor Jim said that pastors were ignorant.
---Cluny on 11/29/09|
Pastor J ... So When Christ went into the wilderness for 40 days and nights he was following a pagan tradition?
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/29/09|
LENT is a German word for Length. It desribes the days getting longer and more Sun.
It is a Pagan Tradition following a Pagan Heathen Party(Mardi Gra) leading to the worhsip of the Goddess Ister (what ignorant so-called Christians call Easter). She is the Goddess of the Rising Sun. To worship her you would climb a mountain and have a Sunrise Service as she rises from the sea (Sounds Familar?)They would then celebrate during the days with Fertility symbols ( Bunnys/Eggs (Babylonian) all in hopes to bring in a good crop in spring.
Christ was crucified on Passover. Easter was dereed to be Holy by the Pagan Roman Emperor Constantine. Christmas is THE most Holy Pagan day. Christ was born in Sept. (Google Ister)
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/28/09|
Among other things--there were several ingredients--the catechumens who were to be baptized and their sponsors and others would fast with them in preparation for their baptism.
Since Western Advent hasn't even started yet, why are you asking this, mima?
---Cluny on 11/27/09|
Mima, Strange time of year to ask about lent!
I think you got your holidays mixed up ,it's before Easter not Christmas!
It's a special time of year when you pay back all the money people "lent" you over the year! SI? NO?
---1st_cliff on 11/27/09|
I think it started from the first electric dryer, it is a custom to remove the Lint from the screen after each use...I jest.
---Eloy on 11/27/09|
Do a Google search & you will find the facts:
Lent is a time when Christians remember the 40 days and nights Jesus spent alone in the desert without food being tempted by the Devil. Jesus used this time to prepare for His work by fasting and praying.
Christians spend forty days in preparing themselves to rejoice at the resurrection of Jesus Christ at Easter
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/26/09|