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Kathr4453 I said When Christ died for our sins it was a one time thing. I don't know why you are trying to twist what I said,just for arguements sake I guess,well I won't argue with you. Christian the same goes for you it appears both of you must take pleasure in contention,well I don't I used God's own Word to explain myself to you,I tried to be polite to you both,and if you choose to ignore God's Word thats all on y'all not me. Blessings
---Darlene_1 on 10/17/12

Christan, not according to Hebrews. I just answered that question.

Being in "Abraham's bosom" is not the same as being IN CHRIST.
---kathr4453 on 10/17/12

//---aka on 10/17/12//-- for the record,
Humbled state witnessed, God bless you brother.

Christ our Rest/Passover/Sabbath
1 Cor 5:7-8
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
Mat 11:28-30
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
---char on 10/17/12

First you say, "No one was IN CHRIST in the OT." 10/16/12

then you say "those OT Saints were put in a place called Paradise AKA Abraham's Bosom, and stayed there until Jesus rose from the dead." 10/17/12

Sounds like you are contradicting yourself, first saying that "No one was IN CHRIST in the OT" and then saying they "stayed there until Jesus rose from the dead."

Since they were "not in Christ", why would they wait for "Christ to rise from the dead"? It's either they were in Christ from the beginning or they are not. And if they were not, Christ rising from the dead shouldn't matter to the OT saints, right?
---christan on 10/17/12

---"I've got it covered" meaning paid for,taken care of,done away,redeemed.
---Darlene_1 on 10/17/12

Those sins "covered" in the OT had to be "covered" year after year. So the COVERING only lasted a year, and then again on the day of atonement they had to be covered over again.

In Christ they are DONE AWAY once and for all.

So those who know Scriptural termonology and use it correctly know the difference.

To say, "Iv'e got it covered" is slang.
It doesn't always mean bought and paid for.

If I agree to do a particular part of a project for a group, I may say, I've got it covered. Now my group may need several people to cover all the details.
---kathr4453 on 10/17/12

Hebrews 10:11-14 says "And every priest stands daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins---

But Christ, For by one offering He has perfected for ever them that are sanctified."

It was only through Jesus death and sacrifice of His own blood that it was possible for the ancients in the Old Testament to receive the promise of eternal life as well as we. Their sins were covered but not eliminated. Hebrews 9:15 is clear: "And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance."
---kathr4453 on 10/17/12

Acts 8:12 clearly says, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women."

Notice the order, "believe" precedes "baptized".

They baptized because they were "born of the Spirit", or how else could they "believed"?
---christan on 10/17/12


Where does it say they were saved first and then water baptism. Philip apparently taught baptism was part of salvation, why be baptize?

They were baptized because they remember Jesus words " You must be born again with Water and Spirit to enter the Kingdom of Heaven" v5
---Ruben on 10/17/12

\\Cluny all I can do is give you the Word of God again,I think that makes it very clear.\\

Quoting scripture is NOT the same thing as giving the Word of God. I've explained that earlier. To refresh your memory, Satan and Pharisees quoted the Hebrew scriptures to Jesus all the time, but they were never giving Him the Word of God.

\\ Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new Testament,which is shed for the remission of sins. Jesus talking there.\\

And He's talking about the Eucharist. Look at the context. (A text without a context is a pretext.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/17/12

Well first of all christan, those OT Saints were put in a place called Paradise AKA Abraham's Bosom, and stayed there until Jesus rose from the dead.

Hebrews 12 tells us they could not be made PERFECT without us. NO ONE was in "Heaven" not "Paradise" until Jesus opened the Way THROUGH HIS BLOOD!.

Luke explains this. There was also a place where those who were not saved went as well. They were able to actually talk to one another.

That is not possible today. Jesus lead captivity captive and took with Him all those saved prior to His resurrection into Heaven with Him.
---kathr4453 on 10/17/12

christan, the other blog is closed. so, this seems like an appropriate blog to continue on.

from your responses on the holy spirit blog...again i did not compare the gospel to master chef. i compare interpretation of the scripture by different people. same ingredients ... different dishes. same scriptures ... different interpretations.

as far as blessings ... if i speak ill to or about somebody when they are in pursuit of jesus whether it suits you or not, you are blessing them. you bless many of us here. and, we thank you.
---aka on 10/17/12

1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Hummmmmmmm, it would appear christan has no clue as to what Peter is saying. Peter himself is talking about that spiritual baptism, not water baptism.

We must remember the flood brought DEATH and a New Life/New Earth out of that death.

Sadly Calvinists pass over teh heart of our New Birth, climbing over some other way AVOIDING the CROSS altogether.
---kathr4453 on 10/17/12

Romans 4:2 Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness. Romans:6:2-4 We died to sin,-. Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death. We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead throgh the glory of the father,we too may live a new life. Water Baptism represents Christ death,burial and resurrection and by it we are buried and risen too. Rev 1:5 Jesus--washed us from our sins in His own blood. As for covered,people use it like I did all the time here even when paying in a store,"I've got it covered" meaning paid for,taken care of,done away,redeemed.
---Darlene_1 on 10/17/12

Hmmm.... truly interesting. Let's see, if the bloods of goats and sheep could only cover the sins of the OT saints and not redeem them (according to Hebrews), how then did Abraham (OT saint) ended up in Paradise (as told to us by Christ in Luke 16:19-31)?

Aren't we told in the Bible that it's only through the blood sacrifice of Christ that will and have redeem (saved) His people from their sins?

And if all the prophets of God in the OT were not part of His promise to save them "before the foundations of the world", then how did Abraham get to be in Paradise? Is there another way outside of being Justified by Faith and redeemed by the blood of Christ? Wasn't Abraham justified by faith? Hmmm.......
---christan on 10/17/12

shira, you brought up an excellent question with regards to baptism. And you are right, baptism does not save and don't let some fool you into otherwise?

Acts 8:12 clearly says, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women."

Notice the order, "believe" precedes "baptized". And how does one "believe"? "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." John 3:3

They baptized because they were "born of the Spirit", or how else could they "believed"?
---christan on 10/17/12

kathr, are you saying baptism saves from sin? ---
---shira4368 on 10/17/12

What kind of baptism are you talking about? Water or Spiritual?

You can't be raised up with Christ without "first" being baptized into His death. Resurrection life comes out of death. I believe being baptized into His death thereby being raised up together WITH HIM is what Born Again is all about.

Born Again is being Born of the Spirit of the LIFE of Christ, His RISEN LIFE. It's His RISEN life that has quickened us. Jesus is that LIFE GIVING Spirit.

So to be baptized into His death whereby we die to that not also being saved FROM SIN?
---kathr4453 on 10/17/12

Jesus life on earth was our perfect example of total surrender to the will of God. His suffering was to leave us an example.

When we are told to FOLLOW Jesus, we are to FOLLOW Him into death and resurrection life, via the cross.

I am Crucified with Christ is the heart of the Gospel of GRACE, and how one is saved BY GRACE through faith.

To RECKON yourself dead with Christ is FAITH. No longer I but Christ IN ME. and teh life that I now live (in the flesh) I live by the faith of the only begotten Son, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not make void the GRACE of God, for if righteousness comes by keeping the law, CHRIST DIED IN VAIN.

Justified by His Blood, SAVED BY HIS LIFE...Salvation is NOT choppped up.
---kathr4453 on 10/17/12

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kathr, are you saying baptism saves from sin? I know some people believe that but ye must be born again. I hear lots of people say so and so was baptized but hardly ever hear they are saved. a sweet lady told me the other day that someone was baptized and the first thing I ask her was if she was saved and she said of course..makes me wonder.
---shira4368 on 10/17/12

Darlene1, #2..

No one was IN CHRIST in the OT. To be IN CHRIST is to be baptized into His death, before being raised up together with Him and placed in the Body.

So not only in the NT are we in Christ, but He is in us.

It's the New Creature who is IN CHRIST and Christ in us.

The Blood can wash away my sin, but it cannot wash away my old man. Our Old man is Crucified with Christ, that the power of sin has no more dominion over us. Romans 6.

Romans 6:7
For he that is dead is freed from sin.

We need more than just a covering or washing. Jesus made that possible.
---kathr4453 on 10/16/12

Darlene, you seem to have no understanding between the words "covered" and "redeemed" (conf in Hebrews 9:12). Once again, Christ's blood did not "cover" the sins of His people BUT it "redeemed" them, which the blood of goats and sheep couldn't.

Cluny, you accuse me of chopping Christ up is because you have no understanding of the significance of Christ's life on earth, His death and resurrection did. Each phase - His life, death and resurrection had a significant meaning. Yet you seem so learned in your blogs. Do you even know why He said "It is finished" before giving up His spirit?
---christan on 10/16/12

Cluny all I can do is give you the Word of God again,I think that makes it very clear. Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new Testament,which is shed for the remission of sins. Jesus talking there. Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through His blood,the forgiveness of sins,according to the riches of His grace. Jesus Himself stated the importance of the blood as the focus for our forgiveness and redemption Rev. 1:5-washed us from our sins in his own blood. That all sounds clear to me sorry if it doesn't to you.
---Darlene_1 on 10/16/12

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Yes! I enjoy this. I pray.
---pat on 10/16/12

Cluny, great point.

Darlene1. I believe Christan and I were talking about the biblical wording scripture uses covered vs washed.

Sins were only covered in the OT. Because in the OT it ws the blood of bulls and goats.

Jesus blood however is more than a covering, but a complete doing away IN CHRIST...THE WHOLE PERSON.

We are now complete in Christ.

God doesn't see us through the blood as in the OT, He actually sees us as a New creature IN CHRIST.

Just like it says in 2 Cor 3, re the Law...The law was a veil, that separated God from man. But Now the veil is removed in Christ. Same principle.
---kathr4453 on 10/16/12

Kathr4543 Sorry if I didn't make myself clear,I used the word covered in the same sense as washed. Cover protects and for us our sins are covered by the blood because we are washed in the blood, therefore,our sins have been removed and hidden,done away with,and we are protected from the penalty of that sin. Wash means to clean,something swept away by water,remove. How ever we say it Jesus took our sins on Him if we only believe and receive Christ,son of God,as our Savior.
---Darlene_1 on 10/16/12

\\christian,sorry but you're mistaken I need no correction about what the blood of Jesus did. \\

Does the blood of Jesus do something separate from what His life or death or resurrection does/did?

Do we really mean to chop up the physical person and earthly life of our Savior into discrete pieces, each one responsible for doing something different for us?

Or are we not rather saved by the ENTIRE Christ?

Please clarify.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/16/12

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christian,sorry but you're mistaken I need no correction about what the blood of Jesus did. Revlation 1:5 --.Unto Him that loved us,and washed us from our sins in His own blood. Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament,which is shed for the remission of sins. Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through His blood,-. As those under the Old Covenant were redeeemed by the many blood sacrifices of animals we're redeemed under the New Covenant by the blood of the Lamb of God,Jesus,a one time sacrifice. Christ died on the cross once for our sins under the New Covenant,nailing the handwriting of ordinances which was against us to the cross with Him. Christ died for our sins,that we may live unto him.
---Darlene_1 on 10/16/12

I think many today only think of their sin as being "covered", rather than washed away.

In the OT, only the High Priest could enter into the Holy of Holies where the mercy seat was, *FOR the people*(not without blood) but the people could not enter themselves.

But TODAY, Jesus entered through His own Blood has opened the way for any individual who has been washed, cleansed and a New Creature IN CHRIST, to come into the presence of God. Jesus said No one can come to the Father except THROUGH the Son.

TODAY we entere a NEW and LIVING WAY, through the veil, that is to say His Flesh( THROUGH THE SON)...being crucified with Christ and raised up together with Him seated in Heavenly Places in Christ.
---kathr4453 on 10/16/12

"Now our life is through His blood which covers our sins and gives us a new life in Jesus."

Forgive me Darlene, correction is in order here. It's the blood of animal sacrifice that "covered the sins" of God's people and that's because the fullness of Christ was not yet. But after His death at Calvary, we are told:

"but by His own blood He entered in once into the Holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us." Hebrews 9:12

His blood actually redeemed His people from "the curse of the law which is death". Whereas, goats and sheep couldn't and cannot redeem His people but only just covered. For the sacrificed animals couldn't enter the "Holy place".
---christan on 10/15/12

We are told in the Old & New Testament not to eat blood,thats because the life is in the blood. The Bible tells us too there has to be blood to form a Covenant,thats why it was called "Cutting Covenant",there was always spilling of blood. Jesus "Cut Covenant" with us by his blood sacrifice on the cross,telling us that there is a new Covenant and the Old is ready to pass away,it did. Now our life is through His blood which covers our sins and gives us a new life in Jesus. Now we are a New Creature in Christ and we should do all things which will draw us nearer to Him. Our most important job is to Praise our Lord God Almighty for he wants our fellowship and he inhabits our Praise.
---Darlene_1 on 10/15/12

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The value of the "life" is the measure of the value of the "blood." This gives the blood of Christ its inconceivable value. When it was shed the sinless God-man gave His life. "It is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats could take away sins" Heb 10:4.

The meaning of all sacrifice is an execution of the sentence of the law upon a substitute for the offender, and every such offering pointed forward to that substitutional death of Christ which alone vindicated the righteousness of God in passing over the sins of those who offered the typical sacrifices Rom 3:24,25 Ex 29:36.
---kathr4453 on 10/15/12

A Mexican jumping bean usually tan to brown in color, "jumps" when heated, because the larva spasms in an attempt to roll to a cooler environment. Heat stimulates the larvae to "jump".

When the bean is abruptly warmed, the larva twitches and spasms, pulling on the threads and causing the characteristic hop.

We see one demonstation here today!
---kathr4453 on 10/15/12

HEBREWS 4,12 - For the word of God is Quick, and Powerful, and Sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joint and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
---RichardC on 10/15/12

Kathr, go ahead and keep trying to revile me with your evil words, God has protected me from any attempts of the enemy, the Bible tells me,
"Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on My account" (Matt. 5:11).
We were speaking about the eternal Son of God. You said He became a son. I say, He has always been the Son, for He has always been God the Son.
---Mark_V. on 10/15/12

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MarkV, your stupid insults mean zilch to me. Just another one of your mad dog foaming at the mouth moments.

I'm not going to keep defending your LIES that "my jesus" so you say is not God.

MY Jesus IS GOD.

And everyone here knows I BELIEVE the WORD who was with God IS GOD and was made Flesh.

All know you continue to LIE as always.

MarkV, you have lost all credibility. You HATE that I believe EXACTLY as Scripture states. YOU HATE that you cannot manipulate the Word and we are to bow down and worship YOU. No MarkV, I will never worship YOU, that would be bending the knee to BAAL! The ELECT will never bend the knee to your false doctrine or your false interpretation ( GNOSTICISM) .
---kathr4453 on 10/15/12

"The blood of Christ is used as a figure, you are correct. But it is the cross, the suffering, humiliation and ignominy he endured before shedding His blood that the blood represents, not His life." Phil

Say what? Do you even have an inkling idea of what Christ came to do? Let me say it, He came to deal with the sins of His people by dying on the cross, which required the shedding of His precious blood that washed away the sins of His people. Hebrews 9:22 declares:

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood, and without shedding of blood is no remission."

Do you even know what Christ's blood even means? Most definitely not just a "figure"!
---christan on 10/15/12

Kathr, I'm sorry to tell you that you do not have the mind of Christ Jesus. Christ was not spiritually sick, He is God. But then again you believe Jesus was created a son, so I do understand why you say what you say to others and me, because you do not have the mind of the real Jesus of Scripture, but other jesus you invented in your mind. And that jesus is not Divine "God".
---Mark_V. on 10/15/12

Haz27, appreciate the feedback.

Phil sounds more like the RCC's version of salvation and their "stations of the cross", along with the WOF's version.

I wasn't saved by Jesus suffering, I was saved by His death and resurrection. I was redeemed by His Blood, not His suffering. And I was raised up with Jesus through the blood of the everlasting Covenant. Romans 8:11-13 Hebrews 13:20-21. not His suffering. I believe in the FINISHED works of Christ.

But since Phil is now blowing sunshine all over MarkV, and MarkV's interpretation, not found in scripture, pretty soon we'll see Markv will be the next disciple of Phil.

---kathr4453 on 10/15/12

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1 John 5:6
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

1 John 5:8
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Now let's watch phil explain away that because a JEW wrote this, saying it does not apply to the BOC. That's because he has no understanding of the above.

He's denied redemption through the Blood, and also the Holy Spirit.

Don't reply phil, because it will be held against you on Judgement day!
---kathr4453 on 10/15/12

"In contrast, the shedding of blood represents the shedding of life"---Mark_V, you are so spot on at times, its refresing.

There is no sensation where there is no blood. Soul, or sensation (not life), is in the blood.

Animals properly sacrificed do not suffer much. But the blood was not drained from the great Victim until after His sufferings were over. He suffered beyond our power to comprehend.

The blood of Christ is used as a figure, you are correct. But it is the cross, the suffering, humiliation and ignominy he endured before shedding His blood that the blood represents, not His life.

He gave His life for us, but He has it back. Not so His blood.
---Phil on 10/14/12

kathr. I didn't know about France 24 but note it's on the web. Thanks for letting me know.
I noticed today's news on France 24 Tyson offered unqualified support (but not saying she was correct) for our prime minister's (politically motivated) allegations of misogyny and sexism, against her opponents.

Whilst the article did offer a little of the other side of the story, it wasn't enough to say it's a balanced news article. The prime minister's allegations were unfounded and was just misleading retaliation under pressure. That's politics for you.

BUT blogs can be similar to politics. It's an easy trap to fall into, getting ugly over disagreements.
---Haz27 on 10/14/12

Dear brother MarkV, i find it rather hypocritical of some who dare speak of "Christ's blood atonement" with such gusto and still believe that a man can still loose his salvation even after they are saved by His blood.

That's why the doctrine of His blood atonement is very specific, ie only for "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me, and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." John 6:37 - and they believe that a man can lose his salvation if God has already chosen them in Christ.

Isn't that blasphemy?
---christan on 10/14/12

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Phil, LIFE is what the original Hebrew states. Life also has several meanings...

Strong's H5315 - nephesh

neh'fesh (Key)
1) soul, self, life, creature, person, appetite, mind, living being, desire, emotion, passion

a) that which breathes, the breathing substance or being, soul, the inner being of man

b) living being

c) living being (with life in the blood)

d) the man himself, self, person or individual
---lathr4453 on 10/14/12

Are you now MarkV correcting yourself that the BLOOD in fact makes atonement for the SOUL as God said. Or do you think your words are more truth than God's? Or do you believe you need to interpret what anyone can read and understand themselves?
---kathr4453 on 10/14/12

I know haz27 will also agree that truth is REVEALED to us, it is not learned as in head knowledge. It's Christ in us, that gives us the mind of Christ as we walk in obedience to Him.

If you knew that you would know we have two natures, one, our old man sin who was Crucified with Christ, and the New Man who was CREATED in Christ. Being conformed to His Image is not learned, it's revealed as we grow in the Grace and knowledge of Him.

For Shira to compare Romney to God, stating works can bring one equal to God, is to also say God's righteousness is equal to a dirty rag.

Now tell me MarkV, are you going to defend truth or thumb truth in the face because Shira can do no wrong in your eyes?

---kathr4453 on 10/14/12

For the "life of the flesh is in the blood": ---kathr453 on 10/14/12

This, too, is incorrect, as is commmon in creedalism.

The failure to distinguish life from soul is accentuated by the persistence with which current versions translate soul by means of "life." But life is never synonymous with soul in the Word and it is presumption to interchange the terms.

"The soul of all flesh is the blood thereof" (Gen.9:45, Lev.17:11,14,14).

It is deplorable that the translators have so often confused it with soul. Life is not seated in the blood, as the versions affirm.

The life is in the spirit, not in the blood. The soul, or sensation, is in the blood.
---Phil on 10/14/12

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Kathr, the blood of Jesus purifies us from our sins, it cleanses us from all unrighteousness. Believeing and trusting in the works of Christ on the Cross, His death and resurrection, brings eternal life, which saves your soul from condemnation. Blood carries life sustaining elements to all parts of the body, therefore it represents the essence of life. In contrast, the shedding of blood represents the shedding of life, His death (Gen 9:4). Blood makes atonement because it cleanses us of our sin. Without the death of Christ you are the same old venomous snake you always were.
---Mark_V. on 10/14/12

Haz27, MarkV has no clue at all what that means or the blood. He lies all the time .

Here' a lie:

The shedding of blood" not the blood itself, means someone or something has to die. In the Old Testament it was animals, in the New T. it was the death of Christ. That is for the saving of the soul. "The blood itself" is for the forgiveness of sins.
You have no clue what limited Atonement means.
---Mark_V. on 10/12/12

NO MarkV the heretic this is what GOD said...
Leviticus 17:11
For the "life of the flesh is in the blood": and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is "the blood" that maketh an atonement for the soul.
---kathr453 on 10/14/12

Haz27, thanks for the info. No I don't watch liberal news. Can smell then like a rat.

I do find though the media in general really do not just report facts. They are all biased one way or another.

Do you get France24? What do you think of them? Or better yet, what international news, (yes, I prefer to watch what is going on in all the world) and have found they report on all the world.

Appreciate your feedback...!
---kathr4453 on 10/14/12

Mark V. I read those posts below that you referred to. I agree with Shira in that we can sometimes get a bit ugly on these blogs. And like Shira, I think many here often regret it later.

Also the word limits on posts require a concise message hence it might often seem like we are being short with each other when in fact we're not. Hopefully most here understand this.
---Haz27 on 10/14/12

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Haz, she is already poisoned, and passes that poison to others whenever she has a chance. Here she picked on Shira, who only shared her own personal opinion the reason she said "I".
This other person is already a viper spreading venom. At least with a liberal you can still discuss somethings even if they disagree.
My answer was really pointing to her. I just didn't put her name. Is it sinful to call someone a viper? Jesus did.
---Mark_V. on 10/14/12

kathr. I don't watch Fox so can't comment on them, and I wouldn't be surprised if they offer biased news. BUT, they don't have the same extent of coverage/influence as the Free to Air News.

BUT the fact is it's the Free To Air News who, as you said, "BASH and divide everyone else". They are a much greater threat than Fox.

The Free to Air news is a liberal/Left propaganda outlet for politically correct, Humanist indoctrination of society. They are the greater hate mongers, bashing and bullying any who dare speak out against their indoctrination of society.

I hope you recognize this and avoid their poison?

---Haz27 on 10/13/12

Beany,--- They are an addiction. I think most of the bloggers on here don't have jobs and are lifetime welfare and dissability recipients so they have nothing better to do than waste time arguing with others.
---Jed on 10/12/12

With Jed, everyone is a disabled lifetime welfare recipient.

Well, even Paul stated we preach the Gospel through "much contention", as did he. But it didn't make him stop. JUST READ ABOUT HIS LIFE LONG EXPERIENCES OF BEING BEATEN, BOOED, IMPRISONED, LAUGHED AT.

The reason Jed hates these bloggers is because Jed is all political, and this is a Christian web site...not FOX news! Now he watches FOX news day and night, while they BASH and divide everyone else. That's his addiction!
---kathr4453 on 10/13/12

follower of Christ: if everyone interperted and rightly divide we wouldn't have this blog. I have said it before, I am what I am because of the way I rightly divide the Word of God. ---shira4368 on 10/12/12

Not everything is about YOU shira.

You need to lose the I and say, no longer I but Christ in me.

No one is saved by their intelligence or lack thereof. And no one IS what they are because of their intelligence or lack thereof.
---kathr4453 on 10/13/12

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We should always be praying and doing so,asking God to lead us,before we answer the Blogs does help us not to be harsh with others. There is never any excuse for bad manners or attacking another person and as Shira said she is convicted,if we allow our hearts and God's Word to lead us,our hearts will convict us too when we are out of line. There may be contention and differences on here but we can use the experiences to help us be better and kinder people. Walk in the Spirit and you will not fullfil the flesh. Jesus said Be you Holy as I am Holy. Wisdom mellows our speech and guides our words,get wisdom.
---Darlene_1 on 10/13/12

Beloved,got to share tell you I was so,out of sorts going to chemo, stress well, I found CNT on my little fon. Been such a blessing to me.thankfull because, it has become a wonderfull experience ,learn alot
.on here. We are human not divine,. thanks is what I do,Phi.4:12,13 and Phi.4:8, Ps.119:41 may your unfailing love come to me,for I trust in your word. The lord has been so,wonderfull to me.The lord has blessed me,so very much because it really means alot to, lately been house bound and really appreciate CNT.May God bless everyone on here,be inspired .love agape.

---ELENA on 10/13/12

Chria, you gave a great answer. No matter what we answer, if the Truth is involve, God has a purpose for it, it has power. The Truth teaches others, and the Spirit reveals things to some, that they needed to know.
Non-truth has no purpose for any believer, but has a purpose for unbelievers.
When the Truth is presented, it will have a negative effect on the unbelievers. They will fight you tooth and nail, the Truth convicts them of sin. Instead of giving Scripture and making a point on the passages they give, they instead spread lies about you, call you name, "that never fails," and try to make you look bad in front of everyone. That works on those others who hate you already, and they join in the hunt.
---Mark_V. on 10/13/12

follower of Christ: if everyone interperted and rightly divide we wouldn't have this blog. I have said it before, I am what I am because of the way I rightly divide the Word of God. some people agree and some don't and yes some are ugly in their responses but I count it a priviledge to share my views and listen to others views, even tho I may not agree. I have been ugly a time or two but God always convicts me and am sorry the minute I get off this blog. God bless you
---shira4368 on 10/12/12

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few rightly dividing the word, most rarely share scripture only their denominational ideas. contention and division seems caused by few who attack everyone, I have seen some posters go back and forth on a topic (so far off topic with dozens of hate-filled rants) and see someone come in to answer topic (and their post gets lost) between the constant bickering, smearing, so much hate and anger. You cannot cause someone else to be contentious, however you can get caught up in others hate and anger easily. I'm learning to distance myself from the interaction of some and focus on sharing Gods Kingdom and warning more, and spending more time in scripture to answer, many topics I answer for myself now without participating because of the hostility.
---Follower_of_Christ on 10/12/12

"the single worse things about this blog is that if a non-beliver was looking for truth, this would not be the place to be
---francis on 10/12/12"

Father can draw any as He wills, even here, despite the multitude of conflicting doctrines, the debates, and lies of the enemy. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation, and is presented by some. God alone is able, and He alone does as He chooses. If one thinks others may not be blessed here, believer or unbeliever, then why post?
---Chria9396 on 10/12/12

These blogs can be used for the good of others or to boost the ego of a few. I come here now and again and then duck out when things become unpleasant, which seems to happen quite often by the judgemental ones. I'm no longer a regular here, just dip in and out to see if there's something I wish to answer and then leave it alone for a while
---Rita_Harold on 10/12/12

Beany, that's a very valid question. No, I do not believe these blogs are a beneficial use of our time. They are an addiction. I think most of the bloggers on here don't have jobs and are lifetime welfare and dissability recipients so they have nothing better to do than waste time arguing with others. It's a shame.
---Jed on 10/12/12

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The single benefit of this blog is learning what others believe.

the single worse things about this blog is that if a non-beliver was looking for truth, this would not be the place to be
---francis on 10/12/12

//Is this a wise use of our time?//

when Jesus presents his church without spot or wrinkle, do you think he did not clean it or use a hot iron?
---aka on 10/12/12

We all have our lots cast in with the Christ of God. He is our God and Saviour. All that is His comes from His Father. And all that came to Him from His Father belongs to us by faith and election. 1C 3:21 Eph 1:11

It is good for a son to know and realize his father's estate before inheriting it. The more you know about it, the better equipped to deal faithfully with things to come.

As luminaries in the heavens, our portion is based upon His achievements in our lives. Knowing and having a realization of God, with wisdom and understanding is extremely valuable.

Blogs help everyone who is called to attain that to that goal.
---Phil on 10/12/12

Family, prayer always good,but do not be hasty throw in the towel. One time. I got stress out,on here blame it on chemo,serious people here are
human not divine.this is. a good forum,it is conveniente, people like myself, live in a city god know the situation here.Times are changing,we live in "shoe mentaiity" I can trust more on here than my city, I can ask for prayer,I can send a prayer. We need this CNT.Don't throw out "the baby with the water".
If you really don't. feel comfortable, don't make it so,those like myself house bound.don't. have a forum.when I feel ill or need. A break I do,but,there are good people here,my opinin. Thankyou agape.
---ELENA on 10/11/12

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Thanks for all the positive feed back, I guess at times we forget this battle is spirtual and words are weapons. Blessings to you all.
---beany on 12/4/09

Beany..Sometimes I have to force myself to read and respond to these blogs. Yes, if the blogs create a sense of fruitlessness for you or dissention, then it would be wiser to use your time in prayer. If you feel strong enough in the Lord to get through the critisizm and satanic influences, then I feel that it is important to respond to prayerfully and in good faith. Many people read them and need your Godly imput. The written word is important and affects the reader. Blessings to you:).
---jody on 12/3/09

What's wrong with doing both. Why can't we blog and pray?

We can pray that our blogs are being used to help others who have no other way of getting christian information about God.

Maybe God wants us to blog so that we can help others!
---bee on 12/3/09

There's no reason for any contention and division amongst believing bloggers. Everyone should be respectful of each other's opinion ( You cant respect an unbelievers opinions. ) We can learn from each other. It's not my way or no way--it's God's way. And like Donna says "Praying puts us in communion with God. Blogging puts us in communication with man/women."
---Sissy3396 on 12/3/09

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The truth corrects only those abidiing in the flesh and in falsehood, for they are disbelieving bloggers: but my words are welcomed by those living in the Christ's Spirit, and these believers will be greatly blessed.
---Eloy on 12/3/09

Karen D... anyone who believes God the father sent Jesus Christ to pay the penalty for the sins of the world.anyone saved Through Faith,the strong follower and the weak, all who believe, those who see more clearly and those who don't,those who have walked many days and those who have just begun.thanks.
---beany on 12/3/09

There is opportunity to learn godly things from others on this website. The spirit of controversy is not of God. But know that in the earthly church, we all come to Christ with our baggage of inadequacies, in fact Christ advises us to come to Him with our burdens Matt.11:28-30. It may be that on this website somebody who do not know him/herself to be unnecessarily argumentative, abusive or easily angered will learn something about that & change. So please bear with them.
---Adetunji on 12/3/09

From most of the posts on this site, I believe that the majority of those who are Christians on this site spend a lot more time praying and studying the word of God than they do on this site. It takes only a few minutes to post here. It has taken me only fifteen minutes to read and post anything I felt I should on these blogs. As far as the "unity of the body" it would be interesting to see who you would be considering as members of that body.
---KarenD on 12/2/09

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Thanks for you comments,i agree with most of your is sad to see so much contention though,perhaps we could start some "please pray for blogs".
How about "unity in the body" for a starter?.
---beany on 12/2/09

Each of us is answerable to God, that we do not get into contention and division, but learn to blog in the right way, to share our good things with one another. So . . . pray, first, to prepare so we are in God's love with His self-control and creative caring for blogging right > "Do all things without complaining and disputing, that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world," (Philippians 2:14-15) > not allowing ones who do evil to make you quit. Wrong ones will answer > I don't have to control and fight them, but 1 Peter 5:3 (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 12/2/09

I do both. But I spend much more time interceeding in the Spirit.

The entrance of the Word giveth light, so we need to be enlightened in the Word and by the Word, if my other believers or if by reading and studying the bible ourselves.

But I've noticed when I interceed for hours, I see the hand and heart of God move very mightily.

Praying puts us in communion with God. Blogging puts us in communication with man/women.
---Donna on 12/2/09

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