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Mima, When John hesitated to baptize Jesus because Jesus is The Lord, Jesus said, "Let now, for thus it is fitting us to fulfil all righteousness." Matthew 3:15.
---Eloy on 1/20/10

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 17:11 Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me,

that they may be one, as we are.

John 17:21 That they all may be one,

as thou, Father, art in me,

and I in thee,

that they also may be one in us:

that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

If you are not one with the Father and the son you will not believe God sent his Son into the world.
---exzucuh on 1/20/10

John 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

John 8:16-19 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

Those that Believe on the Son, Believe on the Father because the Son is the only way to the Father. Those that deny the Son have not the Father or the Son.
---exzucuh on 1/20/10

Romans 1:3-5 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh, And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
---exzucuh on 1/20/10

Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Romans 6:17-21 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity,
even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
---exzucuh on 1/20/10

Jesus is and has always been the Son of God. There is no commandment or scripture that tells us to believe he is the Father. Not one in the Whole Bible. But the scripture always distinguishes that there is a Father and a Son and commands us to believe Jesus is God's Son. And says those that do not believe are Antichrist and Damned.

John 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing ye might have life through his name.
---exzucuh on 1/20/10

Wow, two sinless guys "Exzucuh" and "Eloy" disagreeing with Scripture. Now, One of the two is lying. Which means someone is not sinless as they have stated. This is good and wish we had more space.
---MarkV. on 1/20/10

Exzucuh, I don't see where the Scriptures you gave show that John and Jude considered Jesus was not God. Not God the Father of cousre, but in calling Him God's Son they are making Him equal with God. Consider John 5:18 where the Jews determined to kill Jesus because in "calling God His own Father, he was making himself equal with God." And John 10:33 where the Jews picked up stones to execute Him "... because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

It is also clear from John 1:3 that Jesus is the Creator, therefore God.

John calls Jesus the Saviour of the world (4:32), while in the OT (e.g. Isaiah 43: 3,11) God is the only Saviour. God is the only Saviour, Jesus is the only Saviour, therefore Jesus is God.
---Warwick on 1/19/10

John 8:24I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
The Messiah doesn't sat he is GOD in that passage. In John 8:28 he explains this.
"28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself, but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things."
---Ed on 1/19/10

exzucuh, I can lead a horse to water, but I cannot make you drink. You blaspheme because you do not believe that the only Lord God Jesus is come in the flesh. Jesus came straight from heaven and is born from the Holy Ghost: and Jesus speaks very clearly to his disciples, and he completely proves his credentials, which he himself personally professed not only to his disciples but also to the world. Now each writer of the New Testament knew Jesus Christ is God and they have precisely written so, because they are faithful witnesses of his: and these Christians have written down as the Lord instructed, for all future generations, their own testimony to the gospel of truth.
---Eloy on 1/20/10

1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

2 John 1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:

John and Jude did not believe that Jesus was God or they would not have went to so much trouble to distinguish between them.
---exzucuh on 1/19/10

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

4 times Jesus confesses he has a God. If he was God the Father he would not have a God.
There are no Gods before God. He is the God of gods.
---exzucuh on 1/19/10

---Jed on 1/19/10 I have not only proved it with scriptures. I have proved it with the mouth of Jesus and his Father.

Jesus was on the cross he said Father why have you forsaken me . If Jesus was God he could not leave himself.

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God, neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

If he was God he would have sent himself and he testified that he did not send himself, God sent him.
---exzucuh on 1/19/10

Eloy surely isn't humble when posting. He must like being center of attraction - flaunting his knowledge of html. : )
---Steveng on 1/19/10

If you do not believe that Jesus is God, therefore, Jesus says, you will die in your sins (John 8:24). For both testaments record that Jesus is God:

"A virgin will conceive, and bear a son, and will call his name Immanuel: for God with us. For to us a child is born, to us a Son is given: and His name will be called, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father." Isaiah 7:14+ 8:10+ 9:6.

"In beginning being the Word, and the Word being from God, and God being the Word. This One being in beginning from God." John 1:1,2.
---Eloy on 1/19/10

Jed, many do not accept that the Omnipresent Spirit of God can put on flesh. They want to believe that God is "far out there" somewhere, rather than right here and right now and "in your face". Many could not accept the fact and truth that Jesus (Yeshuah God) is come in the flesh: but they fail to know that God can do whatsoever he pleases, which is the privilege of being Almighty. No one can put him in a box, if he wants to walk on water he will, if he wants to turn water into wine he will, if he wants to raise the dead he will, if he himself wants to become sin and go to hell for others he will, and if he wants to resurrect himself he will. Glory and power and honor onto the Lord our God, for he is worthy to be praised.
---Eloy on 1/19/10

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eczucuh, you can quote scriptures all day that prove Jesus is the Son of God and you are correct in saying that. But you cannot provide one scriputre that says he is NOT God. We all know full well that Jesus is the Son of God. But He and the Father are One. That is what Jesus said. You are ignoring scriptures that say Jesus is God just because there are ones that say he is the Son of God also. He is Both.

Also, just an aside... Paul and other apostles did miracles in Jesus' name. "In the name of Jesus Christ, stand up and walk". Also, Jesus said that men would do miracles in his name.
---Jed on 1/19/10

Eloy I agree with every thing you wrote it is the word of God. I never disagree with scripture. I dis agree with your concept of what it is saying.

I and my Father are one-- The Father and I are one also just like he and Jesus is one.

He that sees me sees the Father, Jesus is the express image of his father he looks just like him. We are supposed say when you see me you see Jesus we look just like him being conformed to his image.

Jesus is the beginning and the end. He is the first born of every creature and the Last Adam. The first to rise from the dead and the end of the law for righteouness.
---exzucuh on 1/19/10

//Everyone whom denies the Son, has neither the Father, whom confesses the Son has the Father also." I John 2:23.

NOt a favorite verse for Jehovah's Witnesses who believe that Jesus was a god instead of God.

Of course, another problem is that Scripture tells us there is only one god and no other god was formed before Him.

Isaiah 43:10 You are my witnesses, declares the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.
---Lee1538 on 1/19/10

Jesus says: "I and Father are one. He that sees me sees him that sent me. Believe me that I in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me because of the very miracles' sake. You all call me The Lord, indeed you all say well, for I am. I am the Alpha and the Omega, Beginning and Ultimate, which from being, and which to being, and which coming, The Almighty. I am from above, I am not of this world: If you all believe not that I AM, you all will die in your sins."

"He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son." II John 9.

"Everyone whom denies the Son, has neither the Father, whom confesses the Son has the Father also." I John 2:23.
---Eloy on 1/19/10

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1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

The Christ/ messiah is the Son of God if you deny the Son of God you deny the Christ. If you say that the christ is the Father you deny them both and the doctrine of the Father and the Son. The Father says he sent his son you say he sent himself. Jesus says his Father is Greater than him. You say they are equal and the same. You are calling God a liar.
---exzucuh on 1/19/10

exzucuh, It is already professed and also proven by Jesus himself exactly whom he is: Jesus is The Son and Jesus is The Father, Jesus is The Lamb and Jesus is The Shepherd, Jesus is The Servant and Jesus is The Master. For there is Only One God, namely Jesus Christ, and there is not 2 nor 3 Gods, nor more. Thus it does not matter what any demons believe nor say, but you will believe whatever you desire: "You believe that there is One God, you do well: the devils also believe, and tremble." James 2:19.
---Eloy on 1/19/10

---exzucuh on 1/18/10, "Without controversy, JESUS IS GOD, and JESUS IS MY GOD". "And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed in world, elevated up with glory." I Timothy 3:16.
---Eloy on 1/19/10

I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father, neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy,and my burden is light.
---TheSeg on 1/19/10

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---Eloy on 1/18/10 God gave Jesus a name above every name and every knee must bow to him. Every demon that ever cried out never referred to Jesus as God. They called him the Son of God. Why? because they knew he was God's son.
---exzucuh on 1/18/10

Jesus was baptized as our example.Showing we need to be baptized after conversion by immersion as He was.This is to be our demonstration of faith in Him.
---shirley on 1/18/10

Jesus did not perform any miracles.

"Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me." (John 11:41). Jesus depended on the Father to raise Lazarus from the dead. It was his prayer to the Father that the Father perform the miracle.

Athough many christians believe that Jesus performs miracles, he did not. Jesus by himself could not perform any of the miracles he performed without God the Father. Jesus said so himself: John 5:19, John 5:30, John 14:10

And christians can do greater miracles than Jesus: John 14:12-15

eloy, Jesus is not his real name either.
---Steveng on 1/18/10

If anyone wants to test the truth that Jesus Christ alone is God Almighty, do this. Confront a person whom is known to be greatly demon possessed, and say to them, I command you in the name of God to come out of him/her: You will note that the demon will not come out, because God is not God's formal name. Now say, I command you in the name of Jesus, come out of him/her: You will note that the demon will come out, because Jesus is the only real and everlasting God.
---Eloy on 1/18/10

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Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

It says that the word is a sword is that literal no that is a metaphor to describe what the word can do.

John said that the word is God as a metaphor as a description of the authority the word has. The authority of the incorruptible seed
the word of God was God's means of reproduction
Jesus was begotten by this and John was explaining it the only way he knew. Mary became
pregnant by the word of God and that word became the son of God in the flesh.
---exzucuh on 1/18/10

Actually I do understand the trinity very well
The trinity does not say that Jesus is God one in the same.
The trinity doctrine says that God is thee distinct Persons God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. These are three operations of one God in three persons. THe trinity does not support the idea that Jesus is the Father. It says that they two distinct
persons. The oneness doctrine is the one that believes that Jesus alone is God and the Holy Spirit.

I do not support either of these man made doctrines.
---exzucuh on 1/18/10

2 Peter 1:16-17 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

God did not say this is me he said it is my Son
The only salvation there is is to confess with your mouth that Jesus is the Son of God.
Those that deny the Son are Damned.
---exzucuh on 1/18/10

Revelation 1:5-6 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

I can give scriptures all day long that prove Jesus is God son and he is not God alone.He has the authority of God because God gave it to him and he sits in Gods throne at his right hand that makes him God but the bible says when we accept his authority as the Son he steps down to let God be all in all.
---exzucuh on 1/18/10

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exzucuh, Well, you completely missed or avoided the part that said "The Word WAS God". What do you say to that? And no it does not say that God made everything through his son Jesus. It says "All things were made BY him, and nothing has been made without him." Just like I said you would you have tried to "interpret" a scripture that needs no interpretation. It is plain as day. There is no hidden message. The bible says that God and the Son of God are one in the same. End of story. You cannot understand this unless you understand the trinity.
---Jed on 1/18/10

ex. your post saying god cannot pay for sin is in error,god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son ,that whosoever believeth in hiM shall not perish but have eternal life,christ was the lamb that had the 7 spirits of god,that payed for our sins, he that knew no sin became sin for us,we are all bought with a price,and its god that paid that price with the blood/life of his dear son.acts 20v28 take heed therefore unto yourselves and to the flock over which the h.g has made you overseers,to feed the church of GOD,which he has purhased with HIS OWN BLOOD,christ WAS THE LAMB/BLOOD HAVING THE 7 SPIRITS OF GOD
---alex on 1/18/10

exzucuh: "There are 66 books of the word of God if man redefines them to his understanding and Doctrines he adds the number 6 to the Bible because it is the number of Man.
666 represents man corrupting Gods word."

That is totally ridiculous. Revelation tells you exactly what the numbers mean, right there in black and white.

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man, and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

"A man." One man. Reread verses 10 through 18 very slow.
---Steveng on 1/17/10

Trav seems to be just as confused as his trinity doctrine is.That's why Satan tempted Jesus because Jesus was fully 'flesh', and NOT God.
---David8318 on 1/15/10

I've been waiting for a "Genius" like yourself. You are making it easy to cling to what I know as truth. You post a scripture, and then argue with yourself.
I guess, not knowing GOD was married made you a little angry, but I didn't write it. I guess, you being "Human" totally, haven't met your "Spirit" side yet. I'll introduce you on the next blog to him.
The temptation of Jesus is self explanitory if you translate Satan. He was tempted of his self. Kinda like you whatever tempts you. You are your own adversary.
---Trav on 1/17/10

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Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Revelation 1:5-6 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
---exzucuh on 1/17/10

Yhwh is Yeshuah: "For you will worship no other god: for Yhwh, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: Who is this King of glory? Yhwh of hosts, he the King of glory. Exalt. Know you all that Yhwh he God. His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. And they went into the lodging, and found the infant with Mariam the mother of him, and kneeled down and worshipped him. Then says Jesus to him, Away with you, Satan: for it is written, You will worship the Lord your God, and him only will you serve. And here Jesus, he met them saying, Rejoice! thereupon they came forward embracing of him his feet, and worshipped him." Ex.34:14+ Ps.24:10+ 100:3+ Is.9:6+ Mt.2:11+ 4:10+ 28:9.
---Eloy on 1/17/10

---alex on 1/17/10 It was not God that had to pay for sins, but a man with out sin had to pay for sin. He had to be of Adam and be without sin.That was impossible. So God sent his incorruptible seed the word to be made flesh.
Sin came upon the world through Adam not Eve so Jesus was born the Second Adam with out sin.

1 Corinthians 15:21-22 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

God cannot die or pay for sin. Because he has never sinned. God requires payment for sin from man that has sinned against him.
---exzucuh on 1/17/10

problem with christ not being god, is if christ were not god,the cross and his blood would have no value as an atonement for the sins of the world,mans blood couldnt atone for the sins of the world,b/c all men carried the stain and the spot of adam,the lamb of god was emaculate/god having the 7 spirits of god,so when we negate the deity of christ, we annual the power of the blood and it redemptive power,the cross/blood has become of no effect.rev. 4v6 the lamb of god had the 7 spirts of god,rev. 4v13 everybody in heaven and earth worships the father and the lamb/blood,so if we negate the deity of the lamb,we annual the atonement/blood.member god has purchased the church with his own blood,acts 20v28,no lamb with 7 spirits of god,no redemption
---alex on 1/17/10

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The redefinition of terms and words is the meaning of the number of the beast. You see to make evil good and good evil is the devils method of deception. The number 666 is a metaphor not a literal interpretation. The skinny cow that came up out of the river in pharaohs dream was a metaphor that meant famine. The stars were Josephs brothers, the sun and the moon represented his mother and Father. God speaks in Metaphors that is why Jesus preached in parables because he spoke the language of God. There are 66 books of the word of God if man redefines them to his understanding and Doctrines he adds the number 6 to the Bible because it is the number of Man.
666 represents man corrupting Gods word.
---exzucuh on 1/17/10

In the beginning was the Word. <-- All this means is that the Word of God holds his authority. Not that there is another God who is the Word. God sends his word and it does not return void. It means that the word was sent and the word the incorruptible seed of God created Jesus in Mary

ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM,<-- You need to read closer it says that the God through the Son of God created every thing And that the son was with the father in the beginning.

I and my Father are one - John 10:30<--- Jesus and the church are one also just like he and his Father are one by the Holy Spirit.
---exzucuh on 1/17/10

In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word WAS God. The same was in the beginning with God. ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM, AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT HAS BEEN MADE. -John 1:1-3.

I and my Father are one - John 10:30

Now here are some verses and there are many more that plainly state Jesus' role as God. Now you can ignore these verses or convince yourself that they do not actually mean exactly what they plainly say. You can continue to believe the lies of the Jehovah's Witness that the Trinity is not real and it is impossible to be God and the Son of God at the same time. Or you can actually read it for yourself and accept the truth.
---Jed on 1/17/10

Francis: OPINION:"

Opinions, opinions, opinions. Why must everyone have opinions? That's all everyone has on these blogs are only opinions.

If Jesus were on these blogs, you, too, would only consider him another opinion. This is why most christians do not recognize Jesus even if he were standing right in from of them.

What about the truth? Biblical truth. Scriptures says that we must use itself as reference not concordances, novels, authors opinions, and other christian reference materials.
---Steveng on 1/16/10

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David, You have many questions. I reiterate, Jesus was baptized: "To fulfill all righteousness." Jesus is the Leader, the Forerunner to show us The Way, and if any desire his Life and Salvation, then they Must also take up their own cross and follow after him. "We have an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which enters the Presence within the veil, to where the Forerunner is for us entered, Jesus, having become an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. For the Law perfected nothing, but a bringing in of a better hope by which we draw near to God. By so much security, Jesus indeed parent of a better Testament." Hebrews 6:19,20+ 7:19,22.
---Eloy on 1/17/10

David, the Bible teaches us that anyone who states that Jesus the Christ has not come in the flesh is the spirit of Antichrist. You display that spirit when you deny this truth.
The gospel of John, Hebrews, I John and many other Scripture references state and teach that Jesus is God in the flesh. They teach that He has always been God. They teach that Jesus is the creator of everything. God the Father called Him God.
This should be good enough for anyone who is not trying to destroy truth.
---Elder on 1/16/10

If Jesus is God:

Why was God baptised?

Why was God baptised in Holy Spirit when God is the source of Holy Spirit in the first place?

Why did Satan then try to tempt God in the wilderness immediately after God's baptism? Mt.4:1-10.
---David8318 on 1/16/10

whole verse...
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
God was manifest in the flesh
God was justified in the Spirit
God was seen of angels
God was preached unto the Gentiles
God was believed on in the world
God was received up into glory.
sounds more like Jesus to me.
---MIchael on 1/16/10

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Rodney you write like you are trying to convince someone that you know something yet you are still off target.
Salvation has always been available to anyone who would come to the Lord in repentance. Old Testament Saints were saved just like New Testament ones. All who are saved are saved through the blood of Christ.
The Holy Spirit has always dealt with believers also. The difference is that now He abides in the Believer. He used to come upon them. (Therefore David prayed, "Take not thy Holy Spirit from me.")
The Holy Spirit teaches believers. You should learn from Him. The promise from Joel was the the Holy Spirit would live in Believers not that He would just appear in the earth.
---Elder on 1/16/10

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh,

The word does not say Jesus was God in the Flesh. It says manifest,which means made known
Jesus through his life and example made the true personality of God known to men. We are supposed to do the same thing and make Jesus
manifest to men through our flesh.

2 Corinthians 4:11 For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

I am not Jesus but I am Jesus manifest in the flesh. If I live by his word and the mind of Christ.
---exzucuh on 1/16/10

Alex has highlighted the contradictory nature of the trinity dogma. Alex is right in saying that if Jesus is 'God in the flesh' he doesn't need to be baptised, or become born again.

By extension, if Jesus is 'God in the flesh', he cannot be 'Christ', 'Messiah' or 'anointed one', as these terms mean.

But of course, this is completely absurd. Bible says Jesus was baptised for the reason of being anointed by YHWH (Jehovah) to become the Christ, because Jesus was/is not GodAlmighty.

Jehovah was heard saying at Jesus' baptism- 'This is my SON...'

Why if Jesus is 'God and Creator' is Satan then tempting God immediately after his baptism at Matthew 4 ?
---David8318 on 1/16/10

Perhaps one of the reasons Jesus was baptized was to purify the waters of baptism for those who would be baptized as his followers later.
---Old.John on 1/16/10

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Alex says Jesus 'didn't need to be baptized or born again' because Jesus was God 'in the flesh'. But Alex fails to realise that's precisely why Jesus was baptized- Jesus WAS NOT God 'in the flesh'. When Jesus was anointed with HolySpirit, he became 'born again' and CHRIST.

That's what Christ means. If Jesus didn't need to be born again because he is 'God in the flesh', then Jesus didn't need to be Christ either. This is why trinitarian thinking is anti-Christ because it negates the true identity and role of Christ. If Jesus is 'God in the flesh', then he doesn't need to be 'born again' or Christ.

But of course, Jesus wasn't 'God in the flesh', as can be seen why Satan tempted Jesus immediately after his baptism, Matthew 4.
---David8318 on 1/16/10

God all mighty does not have to fulfill all righteousness. That would mean that he is not righteous and he is a liar because he says he is righteous.

Only the Son of Man has to fulfill all righteousness because it is commanded of him by God.

I am curious, if you eloy can actually confess Jesus is the Son of God. Can you believe he is God's Son. And actually confess it to people.
If you do not confess Jesus is the Son of God
He will not confess you before his Father.
The Father never said believe I am the Son!
---exzucuh on 1/16/10

To fulfill all righteousness. And eventhough he is God Almighty, he became a humble servant and washed his followers dirty feet.
---Eloy on 1/16/10

Because there are no bible verses to say exactly why Jesus got baptized, the best anyone including myself can do,is give an informed opinion.
Jesus had no sin, thus no need to be baptized fro remission of sins. John was baptizing for remision of sins.

My opinion is this: When we get baptized it symbolized death to one life ( the old self) and resurrection of a new self ( the spiritual self)

In my opinion, Jesus baptism symbolozed him leaving the world of carpentery, and entering the world of the messiah.
He was burying the old man of secular work, and resurrecting the new man of the messianic work.

In like fashion, we too are to bury the old man of sin, and be ressurected in newness of life.
---Francis on 1/16/10

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Mima I agree with your post completely.
---josef on 1/15/10

jesus didnt need to be baptised or born again,jesus was god in the flesh,emaculate from heaven but isaiah says he would bare the sins of many,everybody john baptised unto repentence left all their sins and iniquities in that jordan,even naamans leprosy was in that same jordan,all the filth and sins and iniquities of the world were in that jordan,then came jesus and wanted to be baptised in that same jordan,that it might be fulfilled, he that knew no sin became sin for us and that he would bare the sins of many,it was symbolic that he would bare in his body all the sins and iniquities/filth of the world on himself,thats y isaiah says god would lay on him the iniquity of us all,and that he would make intercession for the transgressors
---alex on 1/15/10

Ok Elder
I meant the salvation whgich was made available through Christ's death and resurrection and is now available for everybody
My point still stands Most of the people in the bible who were baptised had not received the Holy spirit yet and therefore were not yet saved (Rom 8,9 Titus3,5)
Perhaps if you had of been there at the time of acts you would have been able to set them straight
---Rodney on 1/15/10

---josef I appreciate and accept your understanding of why Jesus was baptized.

However my understanding goes a step farther I believe. The all righteousness Jesus was baptized for cannot of course be Jesus' righteousness, since he already was righteous, It is my contention that this righteousness which he fulfilled was for all of us. For this reason we are baptized into Jesus when we get baptized. Our baptism would not be accepted before the father(we been members of a fallen race). But Jesus baptism is acceptable before the father, and is imputed to us along with all of Jesus' righteousness when we receive him!!
---mima on 1/15/10

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luke 3 speaks of Jesus' age being about 30, that has a lot to do with His baptism
---michael_e on 1/15/10

"Why Was Jesus Baptized?"
Jesus explained why " for thus it is fitting for 'us' (He and John) to fulfill all righteousness." Mat 3:15>As in "to cause God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfillment."
What was fulfilled? The promise to John, as he prophesied "He (Jesus) should be revealed to Israel, therefore I came baptizing with water. He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, 'Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, "You are My beloved Son, in You I am well pleased." John 1:31,33>Luke 3:22
---josef on 1/15/10


It is NOT to set an example!

Jesus WHOLE PURPOSE was ONLY to obey the will of his Father. NOTHING ELSE!!!

They just don't get it!!! Most "Christians" give very very little recognition to the Father who wrote the plan to save you!

"For I come down from Heaven NOT TO DO MY OWN WILL, but the will of HIM WHO SENT ME."
---PASTOR_JIM on 1/14/10

Rodney, you need to do a study on the doctrine of Salvation. You said Salvation was not available yet in the Gospels. Wow, how wrong. Salvation was available to Adam and Eve, and everyone since the fall.
Again we do not get baptized to get saved but because we are saved.
There are so many who do not understand God's Salvation/Redemption for mankind.
---Elder on 1/14/10

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mima: "Pentecoastal pastor,"Jesus got baptized in order to set an example for us."
Man, "If that is true Pastor when do you plan on being crucified?" And that was the end of that conversation."

Jesus said, "For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you." An example, one of many examples. When is the last time you washed someone's feet?

Besides, christians are to be crusified daily.

1 Corinthians 10:11
1 Peter 2:21
1 Peter 5:3

Jude 1:7: Even as Sodom and Gomorrhawere examples of what NOT to do.
---Steveng on 1/14/10

To all who believe Jesus got baptized as an example for us to follow-----

This conversation took place between a well known Pentecostal pastor and a man.
Pentecoastal pastor," Jesus got baptized in order to set an example for us."
Man," If that is true Pastor when do you plan on being crucified?" And that was the end of that conversation.
---mima on 1/14/10

There are some great replys on this blog
Elder Have you noticed that none of the people in the gospels who were baptised either by John the Baptist or the disciples were saved nor could they have been because salvation was not yet available And most of the people in Acts were baptised as an act of repentance towards being saved as most were baptised prior to receiving the Holy spirit without which there is no salvation
I invite you to have another look at the scriptures and think about it afresh
---Rodney on 1/14/10

To set an example of how things are done. Who better of an example then our saviour?
---candice on 1/14/10

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Jesus ONLY mission was to be obedient to the Father. Nothing Else!

Remember he did NOT want to come here. He only did so because his father told him to.

We are to follow His example in our lives.
---PASTOR_JIM on 1/14/10


Ac 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word...
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.
Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Peter commanded them to be baptized, in water... AFTER the Holy Ghost fell on them.

Maybe Peter knew something, like...

Ac 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
---BruceB on 1/13/10

Baptism is and forever has been an identification. Jesus was identifying with the message of repentance and the mode of men preaching the Word of God.
Jesus was not showing obedience because He never disobeyed. He was not fulfilling righteousness because there was nothing in Him that was unrighteous.
A wedding ring is a symbol of a marriage. It does not make the parties married. It just shows that someone is married.
It is the same thing with baptism. It is an outward sign of an inward change. You don't get baptised to get saved but because you are saved.
So many get it all wrong.
Baptism is an identy that's all.
---Elder on 1/13/10

It seems to me, what God is always saying.
Not by your hands, but by mine.
Even from the first, when Adam and Eve try to cover themselves.
Not by your hands, but by mine.
I know how it sounds, but to me John was saying.
I baptize you with the most abundant thing on earth.
But, he with the most abundant thing there is, the love of God
In spirit, through his son, Jesus Christ!
So, not even the lord, by his own hands. But by God!
The things I know, I believe in God, even I find hard to believe.
What are you doing with your penny?
---TheSeg on 1/13/10

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To simply set an example for christians to follow. He would certainly be considered a hypocrite if he said "Do as I said, not as I do." We would be following in his footsteps. Unfortunately, christians today only stop as water baptism and never going after the baptism of the Holy Spirit. If every christian followed through with the baptism of the Holy Spirit, we would be seeing many more christians doing greater miracles than Jesus.
---Steveng on 1/13/10

Christ did not need to be baptized but likely allowed himself to be baptized by John the Baptizer primarily for the benefit of John the Baptizer. I showed John the Baptizer that the Messiah he and been telling people about had arrived.

It also allows Christ to pickup an immediate cadre from John's followers.

After this event John the Baptizer's mission changes from telling people about the coming Messiah to criticizing the Sanhedrin and King Herod and his wife.
---Friendly_Blogger on 1/13/10

As a Jew, Jesus was already in a dedicated relationship with his Father. At his baptism therefore, Jesus is not dedicating himself to his Father. Rather, Jesus was presenting himself to his Father to carry out his Father's will, in fulfillment of the prophecy at Psalms 40:6-8, 'Here I have come, In the roll of the book it being written about me. To do your will...' (also Heb.10:5-9)

The account of Jesus' baptism is also one of the 3 occasions when the voice of AlmightyGod is heard saying, 'this is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.'

At this point, Jesus' Father (YHWH-Jehovah) pours out HolySpirit, (seen as a dove) anointing Jesus, and Jesus becomes what he was not before his baptism- THE CHRIST (meaning anointed one).
---David8318 on 1/13/10

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