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Owe NoBody Anything

The Bible says, "Owe no one anything," in Romans 13:8. Does this mean we must not ever get into financial debt?

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The key to this passage is verse 5:

Rom 13:5 "Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience' sake"

The two reasons we stay under subjection is because of God's wrath and because of our own conscience.

So to keep out of God's wrath and to ease our own conscince we pay everything that is owed to people, what is due, money, honor, tribute, tax, debt, and in that way nothing will be owed to anyone but love.
---Mark_Eaton on 1/25/10

I sorry, but its funny how we see things.
I say this, at the end, hold on to the things you have in your hands, tightly!
And remember:

Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

For our God is a consuming fire.

Ps. Some things are, and some things are not, blessing!
---TheSeg on 1/25/10

That's good, Ashley. I think you mean that if a person's legal debt to the government is because of hate, then it would be wrong. And I'd say that ones hating the government can be thowing stones while they themselves are corrupted by sin of cursing instead of blessing, and of being unforgiving and critical instead of praying with caring hope *for* our secular governing people. Paul says to pray *for* those in ruling power, in 1 Timothy 2:1-4. So, if I am criticizing people, instead of caring for them and blessing them, in prayer, then I am in debt, to love them, and this would be the debt God is really concerned about.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/25/10

Basically, you need to read the whole chapter of Romans 13 to get the full essence of what its saying.
Example: Some who say they are Christians today hate the government and what it stands for, verses 1-8 guides them on that issue.
Unless the edicts are against Gods commandments you are to obey those entities in rule.
As another poster pointed out, in todays society it does not mean you shouldnt make purchases.
It means you should pay for those purchases you make.
Are there going to be times when its not possible? Yes, i.e. bankruptcy from no fault of your own.
Thats why its allowed today. OT had a year of jubilee.
MOST important is not to withhold your LOVE from your neighbors.
---ashle7439 on 1/24/10

I like your question. See I was of the belief that when we die, we get judged for everything we did, including any debts we may have had. So I try to pay people what I owe them.
---amand6348 on 1/23/10

Well, in this verse it does not just say, "Owe no one anything." It says "Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law." (Romans 13:8) So, this context *in* the verse shows me the subject has changed from just financial or material obligations, to how we owe to love others. This world's culture can have us feeling we owe ourselves Internet and video games and competing to be better than other school teams, etc. But the challenge we owe ourselves is to find out how to love. We owe ourselves and others that we deny ourselves and take up our cross of loving any and all people, including having time for our families so our kids with us can learn how to love.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/23/10

Bill this verse is basically instructing man to pay what we owe when it is due, even if the debt was mandated.
"Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do [it]." Pro 3:27
However, of course it would be ideal to "Owe no man anything". For "The rich rules over the poor, And the borrower [is] servant to the lender." Pro 22:7
Unfortunately in todays society that is not possible. Unless one chooses to be homeless, or simply drop out of the system, there will always be some type of tax or payment due.
---Josef on 1/22/10

This is the 1st Bible verse that I was instructed in a dream to go and read. I believe the meaning is not complicated. You know how tormenting/bad it feels when somebody is holding what you need(and or it is yours) & you cannot have it yet because he/she has not given it to you. Rom.13:8 is simply telling you not to do that to anybody. Do not hold something good that you should have given/returned to others.
---Adetunji on 1/23/10

well... i think for mortgage sake, its okay. maybe though for some people they feel convicted and that its not a good thing. i suppose you have to listen to what you think God is telling you to do. i feel that a mortgage is okay because its actually helping secure a future for you vs. renting and throwing money away each month for no future benefit. maybe this doesn't make sense to some people and maybe it does. i guess it all depends.
---Momma_to_Olivia on 1/22/10

Well, it's certainly not a good idea, now is it?

There are several interpretations of this passage. It could mean not to make bargains.

But assuming a certain amount of debt and paying it off seems to be an ingredient in modern economy.
---Cluny on 1/22/10

To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?

//// The Bible says, "Owe no one anything", Does this mean we must not ever get into financial debt? ////

Brethren, When this verse is kept in the proper context of its chapter, it becomes very clear what it means in regard to financial debt !!

Rom.13:7-8 Render therefore to all their dues ... Owe no man any thing.

--- Bill_bila5659 :

Brother, It's not stating you must not have debt, but that you should be paying what is due to others, and not storing it up in reserve.
---ShawnM.T. on 1/22/10

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